Will Cataclysm make or break WOW?

Can't break a broken game, all it can do is make it

Well, it might respark my intrest if it's good or not, but I'm looking forward to too many games to care all that much about it.

Hopefully they fix Alterac Valley.. God that BG is so stupid to play in.. sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Hopefully they fix Alterac Valley.. God that BG is so stupid to play in.. Grodus5

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Hopefully they fix Alterac Valley.. God that BG is so stupid to play in.. bloodreaperfx

[QUOTE="bloodreaperfx"][QUOTE="Grodus5"] As a relatively new player (started in BC, quit because I didn't have time to play it, came back in Lick King) that has heard about the epicness of old AV matches, I hope they balance it out. I didn't like the rush boss- win tactics you see today in AV (or atleast when I quit in January, again, I didn't have time to play)testfactor888

Yeah I thought that to be extremely cool.. With all the side quests you could do on top of that.. So even as low level you could still be a help to your team by farming pelts and what not.. What they should have done is keep the same length.. But give a reward based on time and/or certain objectives reached in the battle ground.. I would liek to see a 3 hour AV game... Where you can still get marks and good honor with out staying the entire time.. Such as each tower destroyed = a mark and numerous other ideas.. Making it into a 15 minute zerg rush is just freaking stupid.

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

theyre...

...redoing the entire old-world game setting (old Azeroth)

...adding two new races

...complete tweaking the classes and adding new fundamental changes and additions to them

...raising the level cap to 85, raising profession level, adding new profession abilities and patterns, adding guild leveling

...theyre gonna have like 20 new 5-man dungeons, and a few more raids (dont really care, raiding takes too much time)

Basically, no one has a right to complain about this expansion unless you just dont plain like WoW.

1. If you are one of the players that says "Man, old WoW was awesome, I hate the new expansions" well guess what? Here is your chance to reroll not just a new character of the old race (you dont need Cataclysm for that, and it'd be worthwhile to do that anyway) or a new toon of the new race.

Its like...pressing the restart button. You get to experience all this awesome content you fell in love with, but there is also a plethora of new content in old world Azeroth

2. If you liked the expansions, well, here is another good one lol.

imo Cataclysm will be the best thing for WoW since its original release.

Roland123_basic

Roland, I was hoping we would have a nice, objective discussion and/or debate in this thread; but I see that, like last time, you want to turn this into an emotional issue. Have fun

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="MetaKnight117"]

Yes, I know that. I heard that the old world changes and the new race/class combos will come in a patch right before Cataclysm.

the_ChEeSe_mAn2

for more crazy Roland fun, please consult this thread as well

I never understood how new races is at all intriguing. In the end, you're just leveling the same classes to begin with. Does a different looking character really spice things up that much?

WoW was the best after a few updates but before BC. BC was good till they started going nuts destroying classes left and right by nerfing and buffing different things. Lich king was casual city, any person could pick up and play, and I didn't appreciate how people with no skill could get geared up so fast. Why bother putting in time to the game if everything could be acquired with less work. It is just going to get worse and worse as time goes on.IvanElk

I got a legit beta invite a little less than an hour ago, woo.

Oh god the download size, this is Napoleon: Total War all over again.

WoW was the best after a few updates but before BC. BC was good till they started going nuts destroying classes left and right by nerfing and buffing different things. Lich king was casual city, any person could pick up and play, and I didn't appreciate how people with no skill could get geared up so fast. Why bother putting in time to the game if everything could be acquired with less work. It is just going to get worse and worse as time goes on.IvanElk

Ok I don't know how I can say this.. But MMORPG's in general pve wise rarely ever take skill.. They take time, patience, and communication.. Seriously WoW vanilla raids were awful.. Molten Core had you going through a extremely boring dungeon in which you spammed 3 to 5 abilities tops.. The hardest thing about it was getting the 40 people as well as the communication down.. It wasn't taht you needed skill, it was that you needed people not to suck..

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="scottahuch"]

I also started doing PvP in Wrath, and that was a lot of fun too.

nethernova

WoW was the best after a few updates but before BC. BC was good till they started going nuts destroying classes left and right by nerfing and buffing different things. Lich king was casual city, any person could pick up and play, and I didn't appreciate how people with no skill could get geared up so fast. Why bother putting in time to the game if everything could be acquired with less work. It is just going to get worse and worse as time goes on.IvanElk

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"] Your posts in this thread, thus far, have reeked of someone who just doesn't like WoW, period. Have you thought that, maybe, there are some people excited for the new expansion pack? I don't count myself among them because I left WoW 4 years ago. But due to the list of changes, it's easy to see why this exp. pack has a chance to reinvent the old WoW world in a different manner and more features to an already the most polished MMO game on the market.sSubZerOo

for more crazy Roland fun, please consult this thread as well

Yeah Roland is a crazy troll when it comes to WoW.. All he has to state is he doesn't like the game then move on.. Instead he tries to attack peoples opinion who like the game.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

for more crazy Roland fun, please consult this thread as well

Roland123_basic

Yeah Roland is a crazy troll when it comes to WoW.. All he has to state is he doesn't like the game then move on.. Instead he tries to attack peoples opinion who like the game.

[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yeah Roland is a crazy troll when it comes to WoW.. All he has to state is he doesn't like the game then move on.. Instead he tries to attack peoples opinion who like the game.

Im_single

considering a game is not a system.... system wars is not the correct forum. this is however, because it is a pc game.... so shoo.

if you dont like my opinion... that is just too bad for you now isnt it?

[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] technically calling someone a troll is against the forum TOS... sooo....Roland123_basic

considering a game is not a system.... system wars is not the correct forum. this is however, because it is a pc game.... so shoo.

if you dont like my opinion... that is just too bad for you now isnt it?

[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"] technically calling someone a troll is against the forum TOS... sooo....Roland123_basic

considering a game is not a system.... system wars is not the correct forum. this is however, because it is a pc game.... so shoo.

if you dont like my opinion... that is just too bad for you now isnt it?

A lot of the people I see trolling WoW threads don't have a half decent character, dispite it apparently being casual and easy to get the gear. Most of them have bad PvP achievements, bad PvE achievements, mediocre guild histories and aquired that easy to get gear months after everyone has moved onto hgiher tier content.

A lot of them are the same people that complain because they want to experience the story continuation and see familiar faces and places from WC3 but can't because they're not in a decent enough guild to do it. Then they complain that Blizzard make the content easier after a while just so those same casuals can actually get to see the content out of fairness and intention of pleasing more of its players.

Since WoW already has millions of active subscribers, how exactly can it "make" anymore?

Since WoW already has millions of active subscribers, how exactly can it "make" anymore?

Morphic

Cataclysm is to bring more people back, not necessarily to make more subscribers.

Its marketed at people like me; people who have played it, loved it, but have moved on. It is going to give us a chance to make new characters, and level from 1-85 in a completely redone world, with completely redone classes.

Blizzard is not going for anyone but current and retired WoW players.

I cannot wait. December 7! WOOT

i think cata is a good idea mainly because its an expansion that doesn't just add tons of stuff..it also fixes everything

WoW realy isnt that good of an MMO as many make it out to be...Warhammer has better pvp by far, Lotro had better PvE, DAoC was better all around imo.

WoW realy isnt that good of an MMO as many make it out to be...Warhammer has better pvp by far, Lotro had better PvE, DAoC was better all around imo.

edinsftw

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

WoW realy isnt that good of an MMO as many make it out to be...Warhammer has better pvp by far, Lotro had better PvE, DAoC was better all around imo.

shakmaster13

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="edinsftw"]

WoW realy isnt that good of an MMO as many make it out to be...Warhammer has better pvp by far, Lotro had better PvE, DAoC was better all around imo.

Roland123_basic