Will Valve be another Sony?

The bank just called me and I just checked my statement, numerous fradulant charges made from outside the USA----steam was hacked!

I clearly remembered that Sony **** up PSN hacking not long ago, and Sony's attititude just pissed me off! Now I realized "Steam was compromised", Valve responded quickly, and I hope that they could fix problems efficiently, otherwise, they could be another Sony, the reputation is deteriorating. Damn speaking, what I want is a safety!

I don't think I can trust them if my credit card info leaked.

It's steam, it's obviously a totally different story. They were the victims, woe is steam.


...I didn't care about PSN being hacked and I don't care about Steam being hacked.

But Valve owns steam, they must be responsible for this!

I think majority of the people who hate Sony post hacking are the people who have always hated the ps3 because they think its online sucks simply because its free, think it costs too much,or are microsoft fan boys. So I really dont think Sony's reputation isn't all that different from before it got hacked. I don't think Valve will be another Sony because Valve probably was prepared for this after the PSN hacking happened. Plus Valve has huge respect among PC gamers and I cant imagine a lot of PC gamers leaving steam because of this.

Also this may just be a strange coincidence but the psn got hacked shortly after portal 2 came out. Portal 2 was the first valve game that had cross online play with steam andthe ps3. Now the next big hacking after sony is steam? I know sega, nintendo, and some other company have been hit too and Im finding it strange nothing has happened to microsoft yet.

I think majority of the people who hate Sony post hacking are the people who have always hated the ps3 because they think its online sucks simply because its free, think it costs too much,or are microsoft fan boys. So I really dont think Sony's reputation isn't all that different from before it got hacked. I don't think Valve will be another Sony because Valve probably was prepared for this after the PSN hacking happened. Plus Valve has huge respect among PC gamers and I cant imagine a lot of PC gamers leaving steam because of this.

Also this may just be a strange coincidence but the psn got hacked shortly after portal 2 came out. Portal 2 was the first valve game that had cross online play with steam andthe ps3. Now the next big hacking after sony is steam? I know sega, nintendo, and some other company have been hit too and Im finding it strange nothing has happened to microsoft yet.

toddx77

Yep, forum is running now, and I am playing Batman, :)

Safe gaming Platform? You do realize you are using Windows right? There isn't such a thing.... unless u buy a console and just play the games offline. As for reputation...only the forums were hacked with Steam. Hopefully they fix the issue and it never happens again.FelipeInside

Valve has released that credit card info has been accessed; however, it was encrypted, hashed and salted. It did spread beyond the forums. Just look at the story on GS.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Safe gaming Platform? You do realize you are using Windows right? There isn't such a thing.... unless u buy a console and just play the games offline. As for reputation...only the forums were hacked with Steam. Hopefully they fix the issue and it never happens again.Cwagmire21

Valve has released that credit card info has been accessed; however, it was encrypted, hashed and salted. It did spread beyond the forums. Just look at the story on GS.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Safe gaming Platform? You do realize you are using Windows right? There isn't such a thing.... unless u buy a console and just play the games offline. As for reputation...only the forums were hacked with Steam. Hopefully they fix the issue and it never happens again.CaptainAhab13

Valve has released that credit card info has been accessed; however, it was encrypted, hashed and salted. It did spread beyond the forums. Just look at the story on GS.

It means your data is most likely safe because they added random gibberish before transforming it into a code which can't be reverse engineered to obtain the initial password. Passwords have to be decrypted one at a time instead of brute forcing entire batches so it's time consuming and you must be really unlucky if you're hacked, heh.

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I think majority of the people who hate Sony post hacking are the people who have always hated the ps3 because they think its online sucks simply because its free, think it costs too much,or are microsoft fan boys. So I really dont think Sony's reputation isn't all that different from before it got hacked. I don't think Valve will be another Sony because Valve probably was prepared for this after the PSN hacking happened. Plus Valve has huge respect among PC gamers and I cant imagine a lot of PC gamers leaving steam because of this.

Also this may just be a strange coincidence but the psn got hacked shortly after portal 2 came out. Portal 2 was the first valve game that had cross online play with steam andthe ps3. Now the next big hacking after sony is steam? I know sega, nintendo, and some other company have been hit too and Im finding it strange nothing has happened to microsoft yet.

CaptainAhab13

I hate to say it but I kind think it would be a good thing if Microsoft got hacked. That way no one could say there platform has the best online because it can't get hacked. As of now a part of me thinks that this is some microsoft fan boys who really want microsoft to beat sony and pc so they are trying to damage them.

Between only the forums getting hacked and me using PayPal instead of typing in my CC number and letting Steam save it, I'm not too worried right now.

Between only the forums getting hacked and me using PayPal instead of typing in my CC number and letting Steam save it, I'm not too worried right now.

NoAssKicker47

Wasn't just the forums. Don't remember where, but Gabe sent an apology message, and recommended people to change their password, because he couldn't confirm that accounts were NOT hacked.

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Between only the forums getting hacked and me using PayPal instead of typing in my CC number and letting Steam save it, I'm not too worried right now.

Arthur96

Wasn't just the forums. Don't remember where, but Gabe sent an apology message, and recommended people to change their password, because he couldn't confirm that accounts were NOT hacked.

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Between only the forums getting hacked and me using PayPal instead of typing in my CC number and letting Steam save it, I'm not too worried right now.

NoAssKicker47

Wasn't just the forums. Don't remember where, but Gabe sent an apology message, and recommended people to change their password, because he couldn't confirm that accounts were NOT hacked.

Better safe than sorry. Changed my pass and email.

Accounts were in danger if people had the same password for the forum and Steam account itself.

Accounts were in danger if people had the same password for the forum and Steam account itself.

mhofever

Mine did. I used to have the same password for everything until recently, decided to be a bit more careful.

Definitely, we just need to be careful, especially when Steam forum was hacked!

I wouldn't mind if psn is hacked again, and remains down for a month. I never use my ps3, and when they got it fixed they gifted all users with free games such as little big planet and infamous. So go on, i want more free games.

no, especially because sony didnt tell anybody they were hacked for a while and valve told everybody immediately

YEAH, Sony wanted to hide someting, but they failed! Valve is smarter and quicker than Sony!

no, especially because sony didnt tell anybody they were hacked for a while and valve told everybody immediately

jettpack

They waited 3 days. Don't get me wrong though, but waiting before informing people is common practice because if it turns out to be a false alarm it could have huge consequences. Which oddly enough never happened as Steam ended up beating all their records this weekend lol

No WAY! Sony is the worst of the worst. Valve will never stoop that low.

I'd change my Steam pass but the problem is I dont know it myself.

Well, I have faith on Steam guard to be my account safe.

I think the thing that made Sony look so bad was the fact that PSN was down for so long. Steam doesn't seem to have that issue, so I don't think there will be as big of a PR hit.dk00111

[QUOTE="dk00111"]I think the thing that made Sony look so bad was the fact that PSN was down for so long. Steam doesn't seem to have that issue, so I don't think there will be as big of a PR hit.Makari

Yup, that's why I quit PSN forever, I personally like Steam, great platform, what I can say is **** hackers"!

Sony's biggest problem with being hacked was that PSN was down for quite some time. Steam suffered no downtime except for their forums?(dunno because I don't use them). I'm not too worried about either though, Sony didn't have any information on me you can't find through regular methods, steam may have some card numbers but it would just be horrible back luck to be targetted out of millions of similar information thats heavily encrypted and protected.

From what I understand though Sony was targetted because they were sueing hackers cracking the ps3 and games and such, as kind of a payback. I've heard no reason why they hit steam other than just to do it.

Safe gaming Platform? You do realize you are using Windows right? There isn't such a thing.... unless u buy a console and just play the games offline. As for reputation...only the forums were hacked with Steam. Hopefully they fix the issue and it never happens again.FelipeInside

Doesn't matter if he is using Windows or not.

Also there really isn't a "safe" gaming platform.

I must say that half of the security I see (in all forms) is not helping, and often hurts more than helps. Security isn't a bad thing, and a lot of times is needed, but here in the Western world, we have invested way too much into the false sense of it. To the point where Security is supposed to be covering things where common sense should have been used as a preventative measure!

I must say I have a little more faith in Valve than Sony. For various reasons, but Sony still make some good products, plan on getting me another ps3 sometime in the future.