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hopefully in the future but i dont think anytime soonBladeOfHeavenI really feel that the peices are already there, someone just has to figure out how to put it together... I really think it could happen soon, it'll change gaming completely... AND WTF IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Way Nintendo's Going I Wouldent Be Surprised If They Realy Create The ON :PNarcadoxThat would be awsome. that thing looked great! maybe the only way it would go mainstream is if you released it as a console rather than running off a pc. ya know all I want is to complete a game where I am the hero, not some sprite who looks like a ork or some huge guy who looks like he swallowed a warehouse of steroids, I want to be the person who goes face to face with scores of undead, or orks and ends up victorious I want to stare at a huge boss monster from the right perspective, AND WHAT DO I GET???? WII SPORTS.... SOMEONE SORT IT NOW!!!!!!
It could happen, but i can assure you, it would be expensive.
Besides i personally prefer games to be interactive only to a certain extent. I don't want to have to restrict my entire vision and auditory senses just to the game world, because there could be important things in real life that need to be attended to e.g. phone ringing, pets/young children etc.
it would be expensive for sure, but as for the immersion, if you could set aside an hour to goto war or to go into Doom 3 where you are the main character. I think anyone would find time to do that.It could happen, but i can assure you, it would be expensive.
Besides i personally prefer games to be interactive only to a certain extent. I don't want to have to restrict my entire vision and auditory senses just to the game world, because there could be important things in real life that need to be attended to e.g. phone ringing, pets/young children etc.
neonsuperstar
I really feel that the peices are already there, someone just has to figure out how to put it together... I really think it could happen soon, it'll change gaming completely... AND WTF IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.... NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GenghisChris82
[QUOTE="neonsuperstar"]it would be expensive for sure, but as for the immersion, if you could set aside an hour to goto war or to go into Doom 3 where you are the main character. I think anyone would find time to do that. I think we'd *all* make time for VR. In fact, it will probably become an addiction so powerful that it will be outlawed except for military and flight training. People will play WoW: XXII just to detox from VR!!!It could happen, but i can assure you, it would be expensive.
Besides i personally prefer games to be interactive only to a certain extent. I don't want to have to restrict my entire vision and auditory senses just to the game world, because there could be important things in real life that need to be attended to e.g. phone ringing, pets/young children etc.
GenghisChris82
[QUOTE="GenghisChris82"][QUOTE="neonsuperstar"]it would be expensive for sure, but as for the immersion, if you could set aside an hour to goto war or to go into Doom 3 where you are the main character. I think anyone would find time to do that. I think we'd *all* make time for VR. In fact, it will probably become an addiction so powerful that it will be outlawed except for military and flight training. People will play WoW: XXII just to detox from VR!!! that is a real possibility, I mean if you can turn on a machine that turns you into hero, it would be very addictive, and a huge ego boostIt could happen, but i can assure you, it would be expensive.
Besides i personally prefer games to be interactive only to a certain extent. I don't want to have to restrict my entire vision and auditory senses just to the game world, because there could be important things in real life that need to be attended to e.g. phone ringing, pets/young children etc.
Jack_Summersby
that is a real possibility, I mean if you can turn on a machine that turns you into hero, it would be very addictive, and a huge ego boost GenghisChris82Of course, the (adult) entertainment industry would probably benefit the most: Now for just $999.99, YOU TOO can enjoy an evening with your favorite Television or Film Actress!!! (and so on and so forth...)
[QUOTE="GenghisChris82"]The one drawback of VR. It's all look and no touch! Hewkiiunless they make it so you can feel stuff...
If it does take off, psychiatric hospitals will be full, since too many would get too addicted to non-reality and then can't distinguish between the real world and a projected one. Mankind hasn't developed enough to differentiate between fantasy and reality too well, and even if they get to that point, we are limited by our senses to truly appreciate it (living in a 3 1/2 dimensional world, when we need 4th dimensional senses [we have that ability, but evolution will take time to evolve to develope the abilities of seeing beyond 3D]).Deus_Ex_FanWhat is this fourth dimension that you speak of?
What is this fourth dimension that you speak of?Jack_SummersbyHere's an complex explanation in a nutshell...
Some animals do have this ability, including humans, but it'll take an evolutionary change (time that is) for mankind to adapt to see truly in 3D. It's then when VR will become truly interesting and worth the effort (and the worlds can truly be virtual).Being three-dimensional we are only able to see the world with our eyes in two dimensions; a four-dimensional being would see the world in three. Thus it would be able, for example, to see all six sides of an opaque box simultaneously. Not only so; it would also be able to see what was inside the box at the same time, just like in Flatland, where the sphere sees objects in the two-dimensional world and everything inside them simultaneously. Analogously, a four-dimensional viewer would see all points in our 3-dimensional space simultaneously, including the inner structure of solid objects and things obscured from our three-dimensional viewpoint.
[QUOTE="Jack_Summersby"]What is this fourth dimension that you speak of?Deus_Ex_FanHere's an complex explanation in a nutshell...
Some animals do have this ability, including humans, but it'll take an evolutionary change (time that is) for mankind to adapt to see truly in 3D. It's then when VR will become truly interesting and worth the effort (and the worlds can truly be virtual). You realize none of us will be around to witness this evolutionary change? Or for that matter, our children/grandchildren? That just sucks. :(Being three-dimensional we are only able to see the world with our eyes in two dimensions; a four-dimensional being would see the world in three. Thus it would be able, for example, to see all six sides of an opaque box simultaneously. Not only so; it would also be able to see what was inside the box at the same time, just like in Flatland, where the sphere sees objects in the two-dimensional world and everything inside them simultaneously. Analogously, a four-dimensional viewer would see all points in our 3-dimensional space simultaneously, including the inner structure of solid objects and things obscured from our three-dimensional viewpoint.
[QUOTE="Jack_Summersby"]What is this fourth dimension that you speak of?Deus_Ex_FanHere's an complex explanation in a nutshell...
Some animals do have this ability, including humans, but it'll take an evolutionary change (time that is) for mankind to adapt to see truly in 3D. It's then when VR will become truly interesting and worth the effort (and the worlds can truly be virtual). Regardless of whether or not there is such a thing as a fourth dimensional being that can see all sides of a 3D object, evolution will never take humans to that level. The problem is that evolution will only encourage the development of a particular ability (for instance, the ability to perceive sound) so long as there is a process of selection that *favors* members of the species exhibiting this ability. In other words, unless being able to see in the fourth dimension makes certain humans more likely to survive and produce offspring than their 3D counterparts, evolution will not favor this development and the 4th dimensional person will never come into existence. Given the trends in health care and scientific progress over the last few centuries, human evolution is mostly dead. See, we accommodate and correct most of the flaws that in the past would have resulted in the termination of a family line. For example, infertility caused by certain genetic defects prevents these people from having children. But with modern science, we can sometimes overcome this problem and use their DNA to produce children, thus undermining natural selection.Being three-dimensional we are only able to see the world with our eyes in two dimensions; a four-dimensional being would see the world in three. Thus it would be able, for example, to see all six sides of an opaque box simultaneously. Not only so; it would also be able to see what was inside the box at the same time, just like in Flatland, where the sphere sees objects in the two-dimensional world and everything inside them simultaneously. Analogously, a four-dimensional viewer would see all points in our 3-dimensional space simultaneously, including the inner structure of solid objects and things obscured from our three-dimensional viewpoint.
The human body is an unique thing. We share senses animals have, but lie dormant because we don't use it anymore. Take for example cats and dogs. They have superior sense of smell because of their vomeronasal gland. Humans have this gland as well, but it's underdeveloped...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vomeronasal_organ
This is due to humans becoming predators and relying on sight more (which explains the orientation of our eyes, too). But if mankind has to rely on on smell again, that vomeronasal gland will become useful again.
As for adapting to 4th spatial dimension abilities, you can test those gaming abilities now...
http://www.urticator.net/maze/index.html
Have fun!Â
The question should not be: will it ever happen but when? Ofcourse it will. I remember travelling to England about 18 years ago and thats where I got my first VR expierence. It looked like crap, but I was able to play a 2 players space chase with a friend of mine.
Nowadays VR is used to view the interior of a building before it is even build. Even the army uses it for training on their javelin missiles.
Problem is: you have to hook up an enormous amount of computerpower to be able to use VR. This is not something useful to have in your home and it would be quite expensive too.
Simply take a look at history and you will find that computers have become more and more cappable of handling things. The thing you use to post your message on this forum can safely be considered as top notch equipement even if compared with technology from two decades ago.
VR will conquer the world of computing as soon as desktop computers will have the power to run it. But maybe we are all thinking in the wrong direction. I'm sure quantum computing will open many door, even beyond VR! Just have patience, I'm pretty confindent you will see it happen in your life time.
geitenvla
I think your right,about a few things, one, you would need a lot of computing power, but not much more than we have now, remember your only sending out 2 1280/1024 images, its motion capture of your movments and translating that into games that would be the real power zaper, and the area that you would be experiencing lag in. I don't think virtual gloves would be important, using something along the lines of the wii's controller would be good enough,
that is my idea of vr, no 4D or  mind control, just sight and sound (though you could probably manipulate the sence of time, maybe to the point that you could make 24 hours feel like 2 days
some useful links
A Good HMD http://www.cybermindnl.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=50&category_id=ced1bd070c3193f0349579a021e83da7&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=1
An upto date list of HMD's and info http://www.stereo3d.com/hmd.htm
Motion capture equipment can be googled, I havnt found a good comparison or review site
sigh, does a state of the art headset give you a head ache? Think about it.. and anyway, i think you'll find the first VR will probably be in the form of a visor, and wired gloves or something. A computer cannot know how your moving with a controller.. it needs to be attached to you, possibly one day, we could link a computer to nerve endings.mdcw9
[QUOTE="geitenvla"]The question should not be: will it ever happen but when? Ofcourse it will. I remember travelling to England about 18 years ago and thats where I got my first VR expierence. It looked like crap, but I was able to play a 2 players space chase with a friend of mine.
Nowadays VR is used to view the interior of a building before it is even build. Even the army uses it for training on their javelin missiles.
Problem is: you have to hook up an enormous amount of computerpower to be able to use VR. This is not something useful to have in your home and it would be quite expensive too.
Simply take a look at history and you will find that computers have become more and more cappable of handling things. The thing you use to post your message on this forum can safely be considered as top notch equipement even if compared with technology from two decades ago.
VR will conquer the world of computing as soon as desktop computers will have the power to run it. But maybe we are all thinking in the wrong direction. I'm sure quantum computing will open many door, even beyond VR! Just have patience, I'm pretty confindent you will see it happen in your life time.
GenghisChris82
I think your right,about a few things, one, you would need a lot of computing power, but not much more than we have now, remember your only sending out 2 1280/1024 images, its motion capture of your movments and translating that into games that would be the real power zaper, and the area that you would be experiencing lag in. I don't think virtual gloves would be important, using something along the lines of the wii's controller would be good enough,
that is my idea of vr, no 4D or mind control, just sight and sound (though you could probably manipulate the sence of time, maybe to the point that you could make 24 hours feel like 2 days
some useful links
A Good HMD Â
Motion capture equipment can be googled, I havnt found a good comparison or review site
this one is cool too linkgeitenvlacant really have one of them in my bedroom though lol I bet it is a lot of fun all the same
you gotta think though if it does happen to make a game with VR would cost so much to push the graphics and make it look good P_unit_131
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