Will Windows 8 run Xbox 360 games?

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#1 tjricardo089
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I've seen this rumour a couple of weeks ago, but only stopped to think on the great things that would bring for us. If the rumours turn out to be truth, I would be very pleased playing mortal kombat, brutal legend and even alan wake. What do you think, truth or false?

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#2 CDudu
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I heard that too.

If it is true that means whenever a multiplat game comes out l will have to buy the XBox 360 version?:P

I want to play RDR, Dark Souls and Forza...

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#3 Morrinator
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Hmmm... this sounds appealing.

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#4 charmingcharlie
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I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

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#5 ManicAce
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I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

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Indeed. Even when games are actually ported they can still go horribly wrong (see Sainst Row 2), there's no way xbox games will simply work on PC unless they are developed separately for it.
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#6 elessarGObonzo
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I heard that too.

If it is true that means whenever a multiplat game comes out l will have to buy the XBox 360 version?:P

I want to play RDR, Dark Souls and Forza...

CDudu

definitely'd be nice to play Dark Souls and a few others. hope you're bein sarcastic bout buying 360 version over PC. why'd you want the lower quality version beats me?

sounds like garbage rumor unless 8 comes out right round the time of next gen consoles, then it would keep their sales up for 360 games.

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I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

charmingcharlie

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

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#8 ericpol
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Don't see it happening it would cut into hardware sales big time.The only way to recoup those lost hardware sales would be to increase the OS price significantly.
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#9 elessarGObonzo
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Indeed. Even when games are actually ported they can still go horribly wrong (see Sainst Row 2), there's no way xbox games will simply work on PC unless they are developed separately for it.ManicAce

same way MAC can run Windows programs, Windows could possibly run 360 programs.

also, I had no trouble with Saint's Row 2 on PC. only difference on the PC was higher resolution and farther draw distance that I noticed.

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#10 megamagition
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Won't that just defeat the purpose of owning an xbox?

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#11 achilles614
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

Software emulation takes much more hardware power than the original software required. It's actually really really common knowledge.
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#12 HyperWarlock
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

It's true. The PC dosen't have the power to pop a disk in and it instantly plays with a solid 60FPS. PC is more powerful but it dosen't have that specific power.

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#13 ericpol
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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

achilles614

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

Software emulation takes much more hardware power than the original software required. It's actually really really common knowledge.

Doesn't the ps3 use software emulation to run older ps games? If that can do it a decent pc should be able too. But once again never gonna happen.

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#14 LordRork
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So I could buy more expensive games that take longer to load (i.e. disc-reliant) at a poorer resolution/draw distance? I think I'll pass.

But we won't see true XBox compatibility, it would take away hardware sales for MS and would no doubt open up the games to even more piracy. If we're "lucky" we'll get a shot at some of the download-only games.

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#15 ManicAce
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[QUOTE="ManicAce"]

Indeed. Even when games are actually ported they can still go horribly wrong (see Sainst Row 2), there's no way xbox games will simply work on PC unless they are developed separately for it.elessarGObonzo

same way MAC can run Windows programs, Windows could possibly run 360 programs.

also, I had no trouble with Saint's Row 2 on PC. only difference on the PC was higher resolution and farther draw distance that I noticed.

New Intel macs and PCs aren't that different from hardware point of view. 360 games are coded specifically for its hardware which uses custom cpu and gpu, only way they'd work on a PC is through emulation and that's just way too taxing and unreliable for high-end games.

Even if technically it was possible I'm not sure MS would want it, and I'm not sure how publishers would react to their 360 games suddenly becoming PC games.

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#16 nightshadow137
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yes even i have heard about this on another blog somewhere

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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

You don't understand emulation do you?

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#18 elessarGObonzo
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everyone on bout the sales perspective:

If it's around the same time or after next gen consoles are out: Allowing PC gamers to play 360 titles then would boost their sales because old titles that weren't selling anymore would be available to us and would be bought by the thousands.

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#19 Jacanuk
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I've seen this rumour a couple of weeks ago, but only stopped to think on the great things that would bring for us. If the rumours turn out to be truth, I would be very pleased playing mortal kombat, brutal legend and even alan wake. What do you think, truth or false?

tjricardo089
It is just a bad rumor, of course windows 8 wont be able to play Xbox360 games.
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#20 vicsrealms
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Won't that just defeat the purpose of owning an xbox?

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Nope, I don't own one anymore after it died after three years of minimul use (RRoD right after the end of the extended warranty, stupid POS). Plus, I only had Lost Odyssey for the system, so why would I buy another one?

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#21 charmingcharlie
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right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.Obiwan_1O

I am not sure if this is a joke post, but just on the off chance it isn't let me "educate" you about a few things. Firstly I did NOT say that PC's aren't as powerful as a 6 year old machine. I said "PC's aren't powerful enough TO EMULATE the xbox 360 or the PS3". Just because the PC cannot emulate the consoles does not mean it isn't more powerful, PC's obviously are more powerful.

It takes a hell of a lot of raw processing power to emulate consoles, if you need an example then consider the fact you need a dual core 2,400mhz PC with 1gb of ram just to emulate the PS2 (a console with a 300mhz cpu and just 32mbs of ram). So now can you see what I say when I say "PC's are not powerful enough to emulate the Xbox 360 or the PS3" ?

Doesn't the ps3 use software emulation to run older ps games? If that can do it a decent pc should be able too. But once again never gonna happen.ericpol

No the PS3 does not use software emulation it used a mix of hardware and software to emulate the PS2. The first PS3's released had both the CPU and GPU from the PS2 built in so it was basically a PS2 console built into the PS3. Later models of the PS3 ditched the CPU which was emulated via software but still contained the GPU which could not be emulated successfully. The situation today is that PS3 models do not emulate the PS2 at all, it has been ditched (although you can still get PS1 emulation) in favour of "HD remakes" of older games.

If people even have an ounce of knowledge about technology you would know it is technically impossible for current PC's to emulate the xbox 360 so therefore the rumour that we will be playing Xbox 360 games on our PC's is a load of rubbish. That is before you even take into account it doesn't make sense financially for Microsoft to allow you to do it either. Incase you didn't notice Microsoft sees the PC as a competitor to it's Xbox (they have stated as such) and they are not going to endanger the Xbox platform by allowing you to play Xbox 360 games on the PC.

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#22 therealFrek
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This is a great thread. Lots of people who are pretty good at pretending that they have a clue. There's a little tiny bit of truth in what was said about the PS2, but the rest is sheer nonsense. If a developer decides to only include DX9 support for their game there really isn't that big of a difference between the XBOX and PC versions.

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#23 deactivated-5f0340ca5ecca
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I will only get windows 8 if it will support xbox 360 games, I see no other new feature that impresses me.
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

even emulating previous generation consoles eats up LOTS of power...they simply run on different coding and hardware, it's nt going to magically use your SLI 580s or whatever to run Luigi's Mansion at 9000 fps because it can't recognize your hardware
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#25 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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I know they cannot change the core game, but I hope we can play at whatever out monitor's native resolution is and overclock the games.

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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

ericpol

Software emulation takes much more hardware power than the original software required. It's actually really really common knowledge.

Doesn't the ps3 use software emulation to run older ps games? If that can do it a decent pc should be able too. But once again never gonna happen.

That's because the PS3 is powerful enough to emulate PS1 games... In fact, so is a PC. How exactly does that mean a pc will be able to emulate a360 or PS3?

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#27 deactivated-5e7f8a21de9dd
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[QUOTE="ericpol"]

[QUOTE="achilles614"] Software emulation takes much more hardware power than the original software required. It's actually really really common knowledge.Cataclism

Doesn't the ps3 use software emulation to run older ps games? If that can do it a decent pc should be able too. But once again never gonna happen.

That's because the PS3 is powerful enough to emulate PS1 games... In fact, so is a PC. How exactly does that mean a pc will be able to emulate a360 or PS3?

Gaming PCs are much more powerful than Xboxes and PS3's...
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#28 painguy1
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You would need to emulate a 360 & that aint happening. We can barely emulate a Wii game without running into some sort of slowdown.

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#29 charmingcharlie
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This is a great thread. Lots of people who are pretty good at pretending that they have a clue. There's a little tiny bit of truth in what was said about the PS2, but the rest is sheer nonsense. If a developer decides to only include DX9 support for their game there really isn't that big of a difference between the XBOX and PC versions.therealFrek

Erm NO there is a big difference between the PC and the Xbox that you seem to be overlooking. The PC has a cpu based on the x86 instruction set the cpu in the xbox 360 uses a variant of the PowerPC which uses a totally different instruction set. Just because the PC and the Xbox use "similar" API's such as Directx 9 does not mean it will be a "doodle" to emulate the Xbox 360. The PC would have to fully emulate a powerpc processor that has 3 cores running at 3.2ghz and which also happens to run 2 simultaneous threads per core. It just is not technically feasible to emulate the Xbox 360 simply because of the differences in CPU architecture alone.

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#30 flashback01231
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Sorry to rain on the hardware parade but correct me if i am wrong.

I dont think 360 games will work on a PC in anycase because of how they are burned/written.

The optical drive in a 360 reads the disk from the outside in rather then the inside out of i recall. So, again, correct if i am wrong but you would need a console type optical drive to be able to read the disk anyways and well, there made for consoles with propriatary connectors.

Let me know :)

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#31 Meat_Wad_Fan
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That would be nice, nothing but a rumor though.

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No.

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No.

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haha, if you seriously think this you're outa your mind. It will not run 360 games in any way shape or form. At max arcade games that use xna.
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

lol, well try running N64 emulation on your PC, even that has some terrible slowdown issues.
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#37 painguy1
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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

IZoMBiEI

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

lol, well try running N64 emulation on your PC, even that has some terrible slowdown issues.

i think ur pushing it a bit far with that n64 bit. Only time i've ever seen an n64 lag is when it was running on an intel atom.

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#38 NoodleFighter
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The backfiew I see for this is if developers and publishers get lazy and say I know we could develop a PC version but let's be lazy

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#40 k2theswiss
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umm sounds cool but don't think it will. This would cut consoles sales, sells, xbox live sales, ect
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Would definitely appeal to me.
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

Obiwan_1O

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

i hate when people have no clue about what they talk about yet they talk correcting people.

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#43 simomate
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If this is true then microsoft needs to hurry the heck up and announce its new console...
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[QUOTE="Obiwan_1O"]

[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

I really wouldn't read too much into the rumour that with Win8 you will be able to run Xbox 360 games. On a technical level PC's still do not have enough power to "emulate" either the xbox 360 or the PS3. All Win8 is doing is ditching GFWL and integrating XBL so you can view stats and login to XBL from your PC it will NOT allow you to play Xbox games.

HyperWarlock

waaaaaait.... this is some hilarious joke right??? PC's arent as powerfull as a 6 year old machine? This is the most rediculous thing ive ever read on a forum ever.

It's true. The PC dosen't have the power to pop a disk in and it instantly plays with a solid 60FPS. PC is more powerful but it dosen't have that specific power.

Playing off the disc is just a matter of programming. In fact Halo 2 PC will let you play off the disc as the game is installing at the same time, so you can jump in instantly. The load times in this methodology are not atrocious as you would think. Typical PC desktop DVD drives are 24x speed, twice as fast as the 360's drive (12x IIRC), and laptop DVD drives are normally at 10 or 12x. It's just that installation to the HDD is the typical method because it's much faster than any optical drive, and the HDD can be used for data caching. Leaving the optical drive out of the equation and just using the HDD speeds and simplifies things up in the end.

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#45 amirzaim
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Let me see if the rumours come true...if M$ release the media statement that xbox games will run on next windows release, then the tough competitor like sony and nintendo would be having a big shock! Or just a funny satire articles that designed for trolling them!
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#46 Krelian-co
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its almost impossible imo, i cant say they havent found a way to make xbox360 games run in pc, but i see that very hard, both hardwares simply work different and do different things, is not a matter of pcs are better, its a matter of how they do things, and i see no way of how they would make a pc run the games unless its emulated and that would need a nasa pc.

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#47 santoron
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There is no reliable info to suggest this. We've got a misunderstanding of XBox Live integration being spread around by people that don't know any better. Common sense should twll you it's not happening. Imagine the licencing ramifications Microsoft would have to deal with for each 3rd party publisher and you get an idea how silly the whole rumor is...

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#48 theafiguy
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Windows 8 is just getting LIVE, not an emulator for the Xbox 360. Pretty sure someone just misinterpreted it and everyone began hopping at the idea of having some of the good Xbox 360 games come to the PC. It's not going to happen. I haz link :)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20112207-75/windows-8-users-to-benefit-from-windows-live/

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4796/xbox-live-coming-to-windows-8

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#50 tjricardo089
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You misunderstood me.. I never said it was going to be truth, just saying it's a cool rumour. Picture this.. Microsoft is about to release the new Xbox on the market, still they want to juice all the money they can so they give us pc gamers the chance of playing them if we buy windows 8. It's a great marketing strategy to buy the new operative system and the xbox 360 games. Although, you guys were right, if they're emulated on the pc.. I mean, I don't think that's even possible, but I have no idea.. Let's wait and see what Microsoft pulls out of the hat.