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#1 FelipeInside
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http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/consumer-preview

I like most of it... but the lack of a traditional Start Button/Menu is bothering me...

(unless I missed something and you can enable it)

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#2 Franko_3
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I can't believe they added an app market:roll:

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#3 FelipeInside
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I can't believe they added an app market:roll:

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Well it was bound to happen. The idea behind the market is for the APPS to work on every platform (ie, Windows Phone, Windows Tablet, Windows Desktop). Not to be confused with software applications like Microsoft Office.
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#4 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

I can't believe they added an app market:roll:

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Well it was bound to happen. The idea behind the market is for the APPS to work on every platform (ie, Windows Phone, Windows Tablet, Windows Desktop). Not to be confused with software applications like Microsoft Office.

Yea, that's not going to confuse people at all... I saw previews of it but didn't try it myself. I'll be sticking with Win 7.
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#5 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

I can't believe they added an app market:roll:

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Well it was bound to happen. The idea behind the market is for the APPS to work on every platform (ie, Windows Phone, Windows Tablet, Windows Desktop). Not to be confused with software applications like Microsoft Office.

Yea, that's not going to confuse people at all... I saw previews of it but didn't try it myself. I'll be sticking with Win 7.

How is it going to confuse people? I think it's great that you can use the APP on any device. Some apps even let you sync all the devices.
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#6 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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It probably won't confuse you or me or even most of the people visiting this forum, but this is an OS for the masses. I hope they clearly indicate what cross platform "apps" are for those people.
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#7 FelipeInside
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It probably won't confuse you or me or even most of the people visiting this forum, but this is an OS for the masses. I hope they clearly indicate what cross platform "apps" are for those people.guynamedbilly
Ahh I get what you mean.
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#8 mafia97
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Hows the performance in games,is it better than windows 7?
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Hows the performance in games,is it better than windows 7?mafia97
Haven't tried any games on it, cause drivers wouldn't be even out anyway. BUT, the performance of the OS is top notch (even in Preview State). It is very smooth switching between applications.
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I've been getting weird performance issues in Battlefield 3 to the point where the game isn't playable, but everything else works fine. :(

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#11 FelipeInside
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I've been getting weird performance issues in Battlefield 3 to the point where the game isn't playable, but everything else works fine. :(

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Like I said, Preview Versions are mostly just to check out the new features of the OS.... not to game or use for work etc.
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#12 DanielDust
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Can't wait to get it, Y U NO ACCEPT PRE-ORDERS Microsoft?
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I will stay away from that as far as I can. I don't like the whole app idea. I want an OS to operate my PC, not some weird refined APP version.

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#14 Elann2008
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At least it's not bad as those Windows Vista commercials. *shudders*
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#15 FelipeInside
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Can't wait to get it, Y U NO ACCEPT PRE-ORDERS Microsoft?DanielDust
Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders?

I will stay away from that as far as I can. I don't like the whole app idea. I want an OS to operate my PC, not some weird refined APP version.

geitenvla
It's great if you just want to get into your apps quickly and comfortably. BUT, I hope they put in an option to use the classic start menu if you want to.
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#16 FelipeInside
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Like MS said. The last MAJOR revamp of Windows was back when it went from 3.1 to Win95. (and they didn't let us down then)

Let's see how this revamp goes.

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#17 geitenvla
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Like MS said. The last MAJOR revamp of Windows was back when it went from 3.1 to Win95. (and they didn't let us down then)

Let's see how this revamp goes.

FelipeInside

Maybe you're right and time will tell whether this is a step in the right direction. But I like it when I can configure applications with as many options as possible. It's true that apps are way easier to use for the common people, but I want to be able to manage myself as much as possible and apps won't let me do that. It is clear that apps are invented to make mobile life more comfortable, and they are fine for just that, but I see no added value in using it for PC. It limits my options and that can't be a good thing. For example, I hate it when normal websites turn into these weird app-sites; just keep those two worlds separated!

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#18 DanielDust
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Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders? FelipeInside
Nope :(, but I want to have it the first second it's available, I love everything I hear and see about it, performance and Metro too (especially Metro).

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#19 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Can't wait to get it, Y U NO ACCEPT PRE-ORDERS Microsoft?FelipeInside
Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders?

I will stay away from that as far as I can. I don't like the whole app idea. I want an OS to operate my PC, not some weird refined APP version.

geitenvla
It's great if you just want to get into your apps quickly and comfortably. BUT, I hope they put in an option to use the classic start menu if you want to.

There definitely should be an option but I will be using this. I love it! I'll be one of the first to pre-order!
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#20 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders? DanielDust

Nope :(, but I want to have it the forst second it's available, I love everything I hear and see about it, performance and Metro too (especially Metro).

Same. Guys, give me a heads up if pre-orders are available. I'm a little slow on the top news updates..
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#21 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders? Elann2008

Nope :(, but I want to have it the forst second it's available, I love everything I hear and see about it, performance and Metro too (especially Metro).

Same. Guys, give me a heads up if pre-orders are available. I'm a little slow on the top news updates..

I'm nearly positive it won't be. There never has been pre-orders on an OS with any company. They release it on release day and most shops have plenty of copies.
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] Have Microsoft ever taken pre-orders?

I will stay away from that as far as I can. I don't like the whole app idea. I want an OS to operate my PC, not some weird refined APP version.

geitenvla
It's great if you just want to get into your apps quickly and comfortably. BUT, I hope they put in an option to use the classic start menu if you want to.

There definitely should be an option but I will be using this. I love it! I'll be one of the first to pre-order!

the classic start menu WILL be there, if it isn't already. next thing you know people will be worried about microsoft removing mouse support.
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#23 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Kh1ndjal"][QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] It's great if you just want to get into your apps quickly and comfortably. BUT, I hope they put in an option to use the classic start menu if you want to.

There definitely should be an option but I will be using this. I love it! I'll be one of the first to pre-order!

the classic start menu WILL be there, if it isn't already. next thing you know people will be worried about microsoft removing mouse support.

It isn't, that's why I am hoping for it. There is a FREEWARE program that puts the start menu icon, but it's still the Metro Menu.
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#24 JigglyWiggly_
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about drivers it uses the same as win7
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#25 FelipeInside
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about drivers it uses the same as win7JigglyWiggly_
Yeah mostly. It detected everything perfectly on my test PC.
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#26 deactivated-60156c31f349f
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Tbh it looks like s**t. Apps? I guess it's a bit early to judge but from what I have seen it has nothing that appeals to me.

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#27 Cwagmire21
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I haven't followed Windows 8 at all. I was kinda hoping it would go away since I just bought 7 for my new computer back in July. I know it's too early to tell, but do people think this'll be an improvement to the OS or yet another terrible OS from MS?

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#28 JW-toch
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It looks pretty slick and clean to me, though it's obviously an overly simplified version of Windows. As long as I can make Windows 8 work as Windows 7 I'll be content with it.

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I will stay away from that as far as I can. I don't like the whole app idea. I want an OS to operate my PC, not some weird refined APP version.

geitenvla

My sentiments, exactly.

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#30 Starshine_M2A2
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Nice to see they've added more than just cosmetics this time. Looking forward to it.
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#31 TerrorRizzing
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with the developer preview I was able to remove the metro start menu via registry tweak, then it was ok. Seemed to work slightly better than windows 7 for some things.

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#32 Cwagmire21
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Wow, getting that damn video to load is like pulling teeth...

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#33 MlauTheDaft
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The old Windows is still in there...

I absolutely hate Metro, and I find it ironic that I'll have to spend several hours of in-depth investigation; in order to get the new, mainstream friendly Windowsproperly accessable, but it's all still there......

It's pretty awesome that the desktop is sort of "just another app", but the GUI lacks a crapton of shortcuts, including every single important configuration option and the command line. Having spent limited time with it, the only way to the control panel I know of, is to right-click the desktop and backtrack through the basic graphics settings.

Performance looks good and I kinda like Windows 8, but user-friendly as it may be, it's extremely unintuitive and assbackwards for experienced users.

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#34 jer_1
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Giving Micro$oft a back door into my computer where they can remove and edit programs or apps at their own will is a major NO NO to me. Screw windows 8, it's already completely worth ignoring. They can spy on you enough through windows 7, why give them even more options to track and modify your computer? Also, it looks like sh&t.
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#35 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="jer_1"]Giving Micro$oft a back door into my computer where they can remove and edit programs or apps at their own will is a major NO NO to me. Screw windows 8, it's already completely worth ignoring. They can spy on you enough through windows 7, why give them even more options to track and modify your computer? Also, it looks like sh&t.

That's new to me. Can you link me where they discuss that?
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[QUOTE="jer_1"]Giving Micro$oft a back door into my computer where they can remove and edit programs or apps at their own will is a major NO NO to me. Screw windows 8, it's already completely worth ignoring. They can spy on you enough through windows 7, why give them even more options to track and modify your computer? Also, it looks like sh&t.Mystic-G
That's new to me. Can you link me where they discuss that?

Yes, I too would like to see where, and how they plan to control my pc more than previous OS.

I would like to see if this is something sensationally blown out of proportion, or something actually big and swept under the rug.

I plan on building a new rig by the end of the year/beginning of next. I am thinking of going Windows 8, if its good, and has good driver support. Gaming drivers will come pretty quickly, so I am not really worried about that. (gpu and the likes)

What I am more worried about are audio drivers, a lot of other programs may not be coded to work with it quite as well yet, for composing or mixing music. If Win 8 has good support in that area by the time I finish building that new rig, (and performance is atleast as good as Win 7) I will prolly go with it, simply because it will be supported longer in the time frame of when I built the computer compared to windows 7.

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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="jer_1"]Giving Micro$oft a back door into my computer where they can remove and edit programs or apps at their own will is a major NO NO to me. Screw windows 8, it's already completely worth ignoring. They can spy on you enough through windows 7, why give them even more options to track and modify your computer? Also, it looks like sh&t.Lach0121

That's new to me. Can you link me where they discuss that?

Yes, I too would like to see where, and how they plan to control my pc more than previous OS.

I would like to see if this is something sensationally blown out of proportion, or something actually big and swept under the rug.

I plan on building a new rig by the end of the year/beginning of next. I am thinking of going Windows 8, if its good, and has good driver support. Gaming drivers will come pretty quickly, so I am not really worried about that. (gpu and the likes)

What I am more worried about are audio drivers, a lot of other programs may not be coded to work with it quite as well yet, for composing or mixing music. If Win 8 has good support in that area by the time I finish building that new rig, (and performance is atleast as good as Win 7) I will prolly go with it, simply because it will be supported longer in the time frame of when I built the computer compared to windows 7.

It's just one of those people who think everyone is out to spy on him. Win8 lets you sync lots of stuff to the cloud, using your Live Account, nothing more.
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#38 FelipeInside
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I haven't followed Windows 8 at all. I was kinda hoping it would go away since I just bought 7 for my new computer back in July. I know it's too early to tell, but do people think this'll be an improvement to the OS or yet another terrible OS from MS?

Cwagmire21
The idea behind Win8 is to MERGE all the platforms together. Phones, Tablets, XBOX, Laptops and Desktops. So they all use a similar Menu System and Apps are compatible on each platform.
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Dang it, I just bought Windows 7!
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#40 FelipeInside
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Dang it, I just bought Windows 7!Gooeykat
It's all good mate. Win7 is going to be around for years to come. Most business have upgraded to 7, bypassing Vista so don't worry about ur purchase....u have bought the BEST Windows OS ever created.
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#41 MacBoomStick
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I dont want a sh*tty underlying tablet OS on my desktop. Give me one or the other. Let me completely disable the stupid ass metro. Also, why the **** does metro scroll to the side. My mouse doesn't have a ****ing side scrolling wheel.

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#42 Mystic-G
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I enjoyed this article about a tech's first experience with Windows 8. It's quite unbiased as well.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22562#0


This was apart of his conclusion of his first impressions.

After playing with the OS, it's painfully obvious Windows 8 should be marketed purely for touch devices. The fact that it can run regular desktop applications may suggest otherwise, but even in desktop mode, everything tries to get you back to the Metro interface as soon as possible. In fact, desktop mode feels a lot like a virtual machine, existing for those rare moments when you need to dock your tablet to a keyboard and get some meaningful work done. Admittedly, I could happily put up with the annoyances of the desktop interface if I were only using it in such short bursts.

For devices without touch capabilities, things will get a little dicey. It would be unfortunate if Microsoft decided to force this touch-optimized interface on its corporate customer base. Windows 8 feels positively schizophrenic when used with the keyboard-and-mouse combo common among business users. Unless Microsoft has plans in place to simultaneously support and promote Windows 7 as its desktop-oriented OS, a "Professional" version of Windows 8 with the ability to turn off the Metro enhancements and reinstate the Start menu would be a smart move. At this point, I wouldn't even consider purchasing the OS for a desktop or laptop I needed to be productive using. It's simply the wrong tool for the job.TechReport

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Every iteration of Windows since XP has taken functionality away from the user. I think they are trying for a more user friendly Windows experience, which is exactly what I don't want. Pretty soon there will be "wizards" for everything and you won't be able to customize anything anymore. perfect example is the "personalize" option that replaced the "properties" option going from xp to vista, you have to wade through so much crap dedicated to aesthetics to even get to device manager. Everything useful is hidden away in ridiculous sub menus.

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#44 JigglyWiggly_
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Every iteration of Windows since XP has taken functionality away from the user. I think they are trying for a more user friendly Windows experience, which is exactly what I don't want. Pretty soon there will be "wizards" for everything and you won't be able to customize anything anymore. perfect example is the "personalize" option that replaced the "properties" option going from xp to vista, you have to wade through so much crap dedicated to aesthetics to even get to device manager. Everything useful is hidden away in ridiculous sub menus.

jacobhazard1704
One thing that's a huge imrpovement form xp to vista/7 is the search bar, I mean it's the best thing ever.
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#45 Gooeykat
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[QUOTE="Gooeykat"]Dang it, I just bought Windows 7!FelipeInside
It's all good mate. Win7 is going to be around for years to come. Most business have upgraded to 7, bypassing Vista so don't worry about ur purchase....u have bought the BEST Windows OS ever created.

Well that's good to know because I do like it quite a bit. Much better than vista.
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#46 jacobhazard1704
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[QUOTE="jacobhazard1704"]

Every iteration of Windows since XP has taken functionality away from the user. I think they are trying for a more user friendly Windows experience, which is exactly what I don't want. Pretty soon there will be "wizards" for everything and you won't be able to customize anything anymore. perfect example is the "personalize" option that replaced the "properties" option going from xp to vista, you have to wade through so much crap dedicated to aesthetics to even get to device manager. Everything useful is hidden away in ridiculous sub menus.

JigglyWiggly_

One thing that's a huge imrpovement form xp to vista/7 is the search bar, I mean it's the best thing ever.

:lol: I'll agree with you there. I like how it auto-searches as you type stuff like Google does.

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#47 xbarmatic
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Every iteration of Windows since XP has taken functionality away from the user. I think they are trying for a more user friendly Windows experience, which is exactly what I don't want. Pretty soon there will be "wizards" for everything and you won't be able to customize anything anymore. perfect example is the "personalize" option that replaced the "properties" option going from xp to vista, you have to wade through so much crap dedicated to aesthetics to even get to device manager. Everything useful is hidden away in ridiculous sub menus.

jacobhazard1704
Really? That's the perfect example? Let's see. Windows key + pause|break > device manager. You're just some dumbass that spreads dumbass things to your friends and then they buy a Mac. The world is getting more like this dumbass jacobhazard1704. I signed up just to post this.
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As long as it plays games, I'll be fine.

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#49 Author_Jerry
Member since 2006 • 568 Posts
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It's pretty awesome that the desktop is sort of "just another app", but the GUI lacks a crapton of shortcuts, including every single important configuration option and the command line. Having spent limited time with it, the only way to the control panel I know of, is to right-click the desktop and backtrack through the basic graphics settings.

Performance looks good and I kinda like Windows 8, but user-friendly as it may be, it's extremely unintuitive and assbackwards for experienced users.

To quickly access the Control Panel, go back to Metro by hitting the Windows Key, type in Control (you may only need to type con), and hit Enter. (In fact, you can do that in Windows Vista and 7 as well.) Moreover, you can search Apps by hitting Windows Key + Q and search Settings by hitting Windows Key + W.
Really? That's the perfect example? Let's see. Windows key + pause|break > device manager. You're just some dumbass that spreads dumbass things to your friends and then they buy a Mac. The world is getting more like this dumbass jacobhazard1704. I signed up just to post this. xbarmatic
Don't forget the wonders of Windows Search in the Start Menu. ;) Hit Windows Key and type Device Manager (or maybe Device will do) and hit Enter. Windows Search can save a lot of time wading through menus. And if you want to save more time, pin the programs you use the most to the taskbar and hit Windows Key + 1-9.