Windows 8 - The Start Menu is BACK !!!

...well, sort of... not from Microsoft...yet...

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/292958,bring-the-start-menu-back-to-windows-8-with-start8.aspx

Not like we'll die without the start menu..

Not like we'll die without the start menu..

tjricardo089

Wow, windows 8 looks atrocious. I'd be willing to bet that lack of a start menu is the least of it's problems.jer_1

Stardock has better work for these kinds of things imo.

I don't mind the new start menu and I like how Microsoft ties everything up to one account, like logging into your PC is now via your hotmail account.

My problem with the new start menu is it's fullscreen only and makes you switch between that and desktop. I want it to a window so it keeps me in the desktop like the original start bar.

I never want to see the Metro app stuff either, it may be good on tablets but it doesn't work on a desktop, especially all the scrolling sideways with a small bar on the bottom.....

Wow, windows 8 looks atrocious. I'd be willing to bet that lack of a start menu is the least of it's problems.jer_1

I don't mind the new start menu and I like how Microsoft ties everything up to one account, like logging into your PC is now via your hotmail account.

My problem with the new start menu is it's fullscreen only and makes you switch between that and desktop. I want it to a window so it keeps me in the desktop like the original start bar.

I never want to see the Metro app stuff either, it may be good on tablets but it doesn't work on a desktop, especially all the scrolling sideways with a small bar on the bottom.....

Tixylixx

[QUOTE="Tixylixx"]

I don't mind the new start menu and I like how Microsoft ties everything up to one account, like logging into your PC is now via your hotmail account.

My problem with the new start menu is it's fullscreen only and makes you switch between that and desktop. I want it to a window so it keeps me in the desktop like the original start bar.

I never want to see the Metro app stuff either, it may be good on tablets but it doesn't work on a desktop, especially all the scrolling sideways with a small bar on the bottom.....

FelipeInside

[QUOTE="jer_1"]Wow, windows 8 looks atrocious. I'd be willing to bet that lack of a start menu is the least of it's problems.DanielDust

It is silly to say it looks atrocious though.

Like I said in another thread, if it meets my needs, which would be gaming, composing, recording, and general computing needs.. with the same performance (or better) as Windows 7.

Then why shouldn't I go with it? it will be supported longer. (in theory)

I don't mind new menus, or things like that, as long as they are intuitive and progressive, and not a step backwards. Though so many people are threatened that any change is a "step backwards," religions, politics, even down to these forums with things like a classic start menu.

Like I said in another thread, if it meets my needs, which would be gaming, composing, recording, and general computing needs.. with the same performance (or better) as Windows 7.

Then why shouldn't I go with it? it will be supported longer. (in theory)

I don't mind new menus, or things like that, as long as they are intuitive and progressive, and not a step backwards. Though so many people are threatened that any change is a "step backwards," religions, politics, even down to these forums with things like a classic start menu.

Lach0121

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Like I said in another thread, if it meets my needs, which would be gaming, composing, recording, and general computing needs.. with the same performance (or better) as Windows 7.

Then why shouldn't I go with it? it will be supported longer. (in theory)

I don't mind new menus, or things like that, as long as they are intuitive and progressive, and not a step backwards. Though so many people are threatened that any change is a "step backwards," religions, politics, even down to these forums with things like a classic start menu.

FelipeInside

Yea, still Amatuer at it, but I am.

Though I have been playing guitar for about a decade now, I am quite a bit better at that lol.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

[QUOTE="jer_1"]Wow, windows 8 looks atrocious. I'd be willing to bet that lack of a start menu is the least of it's problems.guynamedbilly

It is silly to say it looks atrocious though.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Like I said in another thread, if it meets my needs, which would be gaming, composing, recording, and general computing needs.. with the same performance (or better) as Windows 7.

Then why shouldn't I go with it? it will be supported longer. (in theory)

I don't mind new menus, or things like that, as long as they are intuitive and progressive, and not a step backwards. Though so many people are threatened that any change is a "step backwards," religions, politics, even down to these forums with things like a classic start menu.

Lach0121

Yea, still Amatuer at it, but I am.

Though I have been playing guitar for about a decade now, I am quite a bit better at that lol.

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Ur a composer? :)FelipeInside

Yea, still Amatuer at it, but I am.

Though I have been playing guitar for about a decade now, I am quite a bit better at that lol.

Much appreciated, yeah we plan on having a decent little home studio for us, and our friends, to make music in.

It will take some time, and money, getting it all setup, but I think it will all be worth it. Just add to even more music on the internet for eveyone to have the option to enjoy.

Getting an instrument is first step... Best way to get better at any instrument, is to have fun while playing it, and practicing. That creates a more genuine incentive than anything else could hope to spark, including monetary incentive. Genuine fun with it, will feed the passion of it like nothing else.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Yea, still Amatuer at it, but I am.

Though I have been playing guitar for about a decade now, I am quite a bit better at that lol.

Lach0121

Much appreciated, yeah we plan on having a decent little home studio for us, and our friends, to make music in.

It will take some time, and money, getting it all setup, but I think it will all be worth it. Just add to even more music on the internet for eveyone to have the option to enjoy.

Getting an instrument is first step... Best way to get better at any instrument, is to have fun while playing it, and practicing. That creates a more genuine incentive than anything else could hope to spark, including monetary incentive. Genuine fun with it, will feed the passion of it like nothing else.

Not like we'll die without the start menu..

tjricardo089

people will probably get used to the new start menu but right now it's weird to use if you don't have a touch screen

people will probably get used to the new start menu but right now it's weird to use if you don't have a touch screen

FreakShowScot

Win 8 is clearly designed for tablets at this point. Unless there is a very simple method of getting a more mouse and keyboard friendly UI then I will be skipping this version of Windows. Skipping Vista did me no harm and I think Windows 7 is just fine. bonafidetk

i really need to get windows 7 before the release this. any word on the release date?

i really need to get windows 7 before the release this. any word on the release date?

TheShadowLord07

Metro is just plain wrong for PCs. Pro or not, it's a step backwards in terms of interaction.

Metro is just plain wrong for PCs. Pro or not, it's a step backwards in terms of interaction.

MlauTheDaft

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

Metro is just plain wrong for PCs. Pro or not, it's a step backwards in terms of interaction.

DanielDust

First step? Are you sure know the definition of interaction?

Metro is clearly designed with touch screens in mind and it directly impairs our "classic" control schemes. And no, touch controls are in no way superior to M/KB, especially not on a PC.

It's simply the wrong tool for the job.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

Metro is just plain wrong for PCs. Pro or not, it's a step backwards in terms of interaction.

MlauTheDaft

First step? Are you sure know the definition of interaction?

Metro is clearly designed with touch screens in mind and it directly impairs our "classic" control schemes. And no, touch controls are in no way superior to M/KB, especially not on a PC.

It's simply the wrong tool for the job.

It's a tool designed for an interactive desktop, for people that care about ease of use and the visual aspect, the old, current way is fine, refined, does the job well, but...who cares? just because it works fine, we should stop caring about going further?

And who said anything about touch controls? I'm sensing a lot of misguided, pointless hate towards Metro. It's fine if you don't care, but not caring doesn't mean inventing random reasons and excuses to hate on it.

Interfaces will evolve, we need them to evolve, it's the reason they aren't the same as 30 years ago, let's not focus on a crack at our feet in a 1000 km road, being close minded didn't help anyone.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]It's a tool designed for an interactive desktop, for people that care about ease of use and the visual aspect, the old, current way is fine, refined, does the job well, but...who cares? just because it works fine, we should top caring about going further? And who said anything about touch controls? I'm sensing a lot of misguided, pointless hate towards Metro. It's fine if you don't care, but not caring doesn't mean inventing random reasons and excuses to hate on it.C_Rule

It's also a tool...it's not the new desktop, you guys are like complaining about media player running at startup covering your desktop and that would be silly, right?

Start menu has been useless to me since Vista. Move the search UI else where and the Start menu is completely obsolete.

[QUOTE="Marfoo"]Simple fix for everyone who wants to use Windows 8 to the same efficiency they used 7. Erase all but the Desktop icon off the start screen. In search preferences remove the search function for any of the "apps." In IE10 (if you use IE) go into the settings and tell it to default to desktop mode. Now place the shortcuts for all the programs you use onto the Start Screen. Arrange them into groups, name the groups, make it nice and tidy, just to your liking. Now just use the Start Screen when you want to open programs. It's easy, just hit the windows key or mouse to where the start button used to be, no harder than 7 (and faster if you use the windows key). You people are thinking you have to do everything from Metro, and you'll be stuck. Not true, if you use Desktop the only thing you will need to use is the Start Screen. How much harder is it to press the Windows key and click on an icon than it is to move your mouse to a start button, navigate a menu and click on a button? You're missing out on some killer boot times, some nice Windows Explorer Tweaks (Ribbon is nice), new task manager is nice, new file copying is nice, also Windows natively supports .iso mounting now! IE10 is even pretty solid! Trust me, setup Win8 like I describe here and you'll think to yourself Windows 8 is a solid successor to Windows 7. I'm a senior electrical engineering student. I do a lot of work from this computer and if it was hindering me I wouldn't be using it. Give it a try and stop crying, please, it's worth it.trastamad03

[QUOTE="trastamad03"][QUOTE="Marfoo"]Simple fix for everyone who wants to use Windows 8 to the same efficiency they used 7. Erase all but the Desktop icon off the start screen. In search preferences remove the search function for any of the "apps." In IE10 (if you use IE) go into the settings and tell it to default to desktop mode. Now place the shortcuts for all the programs you use onto the Start Screen. Arrange them into groups, name the groups, make it nice and tidy, just to your liking. Now just use the Start Screen when you want to open programs. It's easy, just hit the windows key or mouse to where the start button used to be, no harder than 7 (and faster if you use the windows key). You people are thinking you have to do everything from Metro, and you'll be stuck. Not true, if you use Desktop the only thing you will need to use is the Start Screen. How much harder is it to press the Windows key and click on an icon than it is to move your mouse to a start button, navigate a menu and click on a button? You're missing out on some killer boot times, some nice Windows Explorer Tweaks (Ribbon is nice), new task manager is nice, new file copying is nice, also Windows natively supports .iso mounting now! IE10 is even pretty solid! Trust me, setup Win8 like I describe here and you'll think to yourself Windows 8 is a solid successor to Windows 7. I'm a senior electrical engineering student. I do a lot of work from this computer and if it was hindering me I wouldn't be using it. Give it a try and stop crying, please, it's worth it.Marfoo

Exactly this.

People here seem to think that because Microsoft is releasing an OS, then everyone is FORCED to Upgrade. You don't have to upgrade people.

No, I'm sticking with Win7 cause it does everything well and to be honest, I can't be bothered installing another OS. (I do that at work constantly).

Start menu has been useless to me since Vista. Move the search UI else where and the Start menu is completely obsolete.

Mr_BillGates

Start menu is just a thing XP users got stuck on, they probably didn't even notice it was almost entirely useless and inefficient in its current form (because of the search function).

However desktop is desktop, nobody says they should ditch it, but they somehow feel they're doing that because 8's major "user" enhancements revolve around touch like interfaces, but it's more efficient and easy to use like that.

Let's not forget the major "background" enhancements, that 99% of the users have no clue about, they never did since Windows was invented, not even how much they enhance the performance, if it's faster it's faster, not even close to what's happening, there were huge jumps between XP and Vista, Vista and 7, from what they say 7 to 8 will be the same, in efficiency, performance and yet again various features for users that want a clean, easy, "combined" experience, aesthetically pleasing that will shape according to your needs.

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Start menu has been useless to me since Vista. Move the search UI else where and the Start menu is completely obsolete.

DanielDust

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Start menu has been useless to me since Vista. Move the search UI else where and the Start menu is completely obsolete.

FelipeInside

I think the new Windows 8 is terrible, it's designed for gamers..... yet it has touch screen features. More like casual gamers on their touch screen tablets playing touch screen gamesmep69

7 is going to be the new XP since every company in the world upgraded to it. I don't think they'll hurry to adopt 8. I hope I'll be surprised.