World Of Warcraft Cataclysm Thoughts + Opinions?

I have been playing since Vanilla and Cata has made me quit. They are changing nearly everything and personally I run with a small guild. I don't want to have to join a huge guild just to get the guild perks. I also don't like the new spells that they are giving to some of the classes. Etc etc etc. In the long run I was just looking for any reason to quit and Cata gave me that in spades. My sub ends August 25thtestfactor888

[QUOTE="testfactor888"]I have been playing since Vanilla and Cata has made me quit. They are changing nearly everything and personally I run with a small guild. I don't want to have to join a huge guild just to get the guild perks. I also don't like the new spells that they are giving to some of the classes. Etc etc etc. In the long run I was just looking for any reason to quit and Cata gave me that in spades. My sub ends August 25thFelipeInside

Edit - I have played City of Heroes before but that was even before City of Villians was out so I am not sure what I will think now. I used to enjoy it but it was very repetitive.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="testfactor888"]I have been playing since Vanilla and Cata has made me quit. They are changing nearly everything and personally I run with a small guild. I don't want to have to join a huge guild just to get the guild perks. I also don't like the new spells that they are giving to some of the classes. Etc etc etc. In the long run I was just looking for any reason to quit and Cata gave me that in spades. My sub ends August 25thtestfactor888

Edit - I have played City of Heroes before but that was even before City of Villians was out so I am not sure what I will think now. I used to enjoy it but it was very repetitive.

I'll check it out, but MMOs will destroy your life.

I'll check it out, but MMOs will destroy your life.

GummiRaccoon

For a few years now I have been considering giving WoW a proper try and with Cataclysm creating all new starting areas it will no doubt reallyget old players starting new characters so the starting areas will be populated and most importantly...fun :)

Quit afte a month of Wotlk and I won't be playing Cata. Seems to me like they're making it more noob friendly.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I'll check it out, but MMOs will destroy your life.

FelipeInside

He asked for my opinion, so I gave it. And yes, mmos literally kill people.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

I'll check it out, but MMOs will destroy your life.

GummiRaccoon

He asked for my opinion, so I gave it. And yes, mmos literally kill people.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] No they won't.... stupid thing to say...FelipeInside

He asked for my opinion, so I gave it. And yes, mmos literally kill people.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

He asked for my opinion, so I gave it. And yes, mmos literally kill people.

GummiRaccoon

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

He asked for my opinion, so I gave it. And yes, mmos literally kill people.

GummiRaccoon

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] No, human stupidity kills people....not MMOs...FelipeInside

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

Step 1: log on your main

Step 2: type /played

Step 3: become an hero

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] No, human stupidity kills people....not MMOs...FelipeInside

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

So, i think we can all agree people who play WoW are stupid? lol

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Two-Fanatic-World-of-Warctaft-Gamers-Have-Died-Becouse-Of-WoW-11821.shtml

people don't refer to wow as crack for nothing

GummiRaccoon

Step 1: log on your main

Step 2: type /played

Step 3: become an hero

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Exactly what I mean.... human stupidity....Im_single

Step 1: log on your main

Step 2: type /played

Step 3: become an hero

people don't die because they watch tv.

The carrot on a stick nature of MMOs lend themselves to being addictive on an entirely different level than fps/rts or whatever. Someone who is deemed a casual player in an MMO would be considered super hardcore in any other genre. People skip out on important events in their lives to attend raids for a chance for an item upgrade. Back when wow had its old honor system, people put their lives on hold for 3 months straight just to hit rank 14.

I played wow, and prior to playing, I considered myself a typical gamer, I played all the games that everyone else played, I chose gaming over watching tv. But then, playing wow in a raiding guild with 50% attendence for 1 year, I was considered a casual gamer. Over the course of a year, I played 4-5 hours a night for 3-4 days a week and people considered me casual. That's a part time job for christ sakes.

I've made some really cool friends playing wow, some of which I've met IRL at xpac midnight openings or as a stop on the way to blizzcon. However, I have seen people literally destroy real life relationships over this game, quit their job, stop going to school. There are people who play games too much and then there are MMO players. I have not seen a genre disrupt daily life for as many people as I have seen with MMOs.

[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Step 1: log on your main

Step 2: type /played

Step 3: become an hero

GummiRaccoon

people don't die because they watch tv.

The carrot on a stick nature of MMOs lend themselves to being addictive on an entirely different level than fps/rts or whatever. Someone who is deemed a casual player in an MMO would be considered super hardcore in any other genre. People skip out on important events in their lives to attend raids for a chance for an item upgrade. Back when wow had its old honor system, people put their lives on hold for 3 months straight just to hit rank 14.

I played wow, and prior to playing, I considered myself a typical gamer, I played all the games that everyone else played, I chose gaming over watching tv. But then, playing wow in a raiding guild with 50% attendence for 1 year, I was considered a casual gamer. Over the course of a year, I played 4-5 hours a night for 3-4 days a week and people considered me casual. That's a part time job for christ sakes.

I've made some really cool friends playing wow, some of which I've met IRL at xpac midnight openings or as a stop on the way to blizzcon. However, I have seen people literally destroy real life relationships over this game, quit their job, stop going to school. There are people who play games too much and then there are MMO players. I have not seen a genre disrupt daily life for as many people as I have seen with MMOs.

Personally, I cannot wait. I had to cancel my WoW sub in January because I didn't have any time to play it, so I'm waiting for Cata to go back. Never experiencing BC heroics, I'm pumped to hear that the PvE difficulty is uped a good deal, and it won't just be an AoE wtfpwn facerool (since I'm a rogue, I never was quite good at AoEing :P). Excited about the new races and new zones, as well. The only thing I"m skeptical about is the new talent trees, but we'll see how it goes, I won't throw my judgement until I play around with them.

They uped pve difficulty eh?

No worries, they're making up for it by giving almost every race a pala. So you won't need to worry about those other classes. All you'll have is kids runing arround with their ret pala and braging about how good they are.

1-60/Vanilla WoW has been dead for a long time. Those sections of the game needed a facelift badly. Hopefully this will get old players to come back and new people to sign up.

[QUOTE="Im_single"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Step 1: log on your main

Step 2: type /played

Step 3: become an hero

GummiRaccoon

people don't die because they watch tv.

The carrot on a stick nature of MMOs lend themselves to being addictive on an entirely different level than fps/rts or whatever. Someone who is deemed a casual player in an MMO would be considered super hardcore in any other genre. People skip out on important events in their lives to attend raids for a chance for an item upgrade. Back when wow had its old honor system, people put their lives on hold for 3 months straight just to hit rank 14.

I played wow, and prior to playing, I considered myself a typical gamer, I played all the games that everyone else played, I chose gaming over watching tv. But then, playing wow in a raiding guild with 50% attendence for 1 year, I was considered a casual gamer. Over the course of a year, I played 4-5 hours a night for 3-4 days a week and people considered me casual. That's a part time job for christ sakes.

I've made some really cool friends playing wow, some of which I've met IRL at xpac midnight openings or as a stop on the way to blizzcon. However, I have seen people literally destroy real life relationships over this game, quit their job, stop going to school. There are people who play games too much and then there are MMO players. I have not seen a genre disrupt daily life for as many people as I have seen with MMOs.

It sounds like you just have an addictive personality and can't play the game casually. You should stay away from it, the same way some people should stay away from alcohol or gambling. That doesn't make WoW inherently bad, it just means that you have impulse control problems.

I played WoW a few years back and had no problems keeping it to just a couple of hours every few nights. And then I cancelled it after a couple of months when I got bored. But then again, I don't have an addictive personality. I can drink one beer and leave it at that, or smoke a cigar once a year at a party and not become a regular smoker.

Well I'll be playing it, until then SC2 will do :)

I look forward to try it out. Played WoW "on and off" since vanilla, but now I've been away from the game ~1 year. Will return with Cata :)

I got a beta invite for cat, and honestly I went in pretty skeptical. It didn't seem like anything game-changing was being added except the two new races.

From what I've seen of the new starting areas, the new quests in the old areas, and Hyjal/Vashj'ir/Deepholm, I'm pretty impressed. I'm leveling a Goblin Shammy and I'm having a blast, which is the opposite of how I thought I'd feel. The new areas, once the multitude of bugs are solved, are really fun as well.

What got me pretty disappointed, though, is that most of the old areas really aren't getting that much of a face-lift appearance-wise. I'd say more about that but I don't wanna spoil anything. The new quests in those areas are, so far, a blast though.

Have Cataclysm preordered, cant wait for it.Getting bored of WoW now and will probably cancel my account while I wait for it.

Looks like it's going to improve WoW alot but I'm not a fan of the 31 talent point system and guild perks.

When i went to blizzcon(btw i dont like WoW, went for diablo 3) Cataclysm looked like it was an improvement. Balance may come to that game for once

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"] Realize how much time you have wasted sitting at a computer, on a chair watching television, or playing videogames Tell me, how is watching TV, or surfing a videogame website any more productive than playing WoW? Also I don't see how WoW is any more addictive than television or any other online videogame. Cataclysm is bringing a lot of new changes that seem to streamline the game, which is good because WoW has some archaic mechanics that need to go. Also I am very excited about the Vanilla world revamp, it actually gives me an excuse to play an alt.FleeceJohnson

people don't die because they watch tv.

The carrot on a stick nature of MMOs lend themselves to being addictive on an entirely different level than fps/rts or whatever. Someone who is deemed a casual player in an MMO would be considered super hardcore in any other genre. People skip out on important events in their lives to attend raids for a chance for an item upgrade. Back when wow had its old honor system, people put their lives on hold for 3 months straight just to hit rank 14.

I played wow, and prior to playing, I considered myself a typical gamer, I played all the games that everyone else played, I chose gaming over watching tv. But then, playing wow in a raiding guild with 50% attendence for 1 year, I was considered a casual gamer. Over the course of a year, I played 4-5 hours a night for 3-4 days a week and people considered me casual. That's a part time job for christ sakes.

I've made some really cool friends playing wow, some of which I've met IRL at xpac midnight openings or as a stop on the way to blizzcon. However, I have seen people literally destroy real life relationships over this game, quit their job, stop going to school. There are people who play games too much and then there are MMO players. I have not seen a genre disrupt daily life for as many people as I have seen with MMOs.

It sounds like you just have an addictive personality and can't play the game casually. You should stay away from it, the same way some people should stay away from alcohol or gambling. That doesn't make WoW inherently bad, it just means that you have impulse control problems.

I played WoW a few years back and had no problems keeping it to just a couple of hours every few nights. And then I cancelled it after a couple of months when I got bored. But then again, I don't have an addictive personality. I can drink one beer and leave it at that, or smoke a cigar once a year at a party and not become a regular smoker.

Saying all this is like saying CARS cause DEATHS cause they cause ACCIDENTS. People, cars don't cause accidents....the DRIVERS do ok.FelipeInside

Let me introduce you to my Toyota.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Saying all this is like saying CARS cause DEATHS cause they cause ACCIDENTS. People, cars don't cause accidents....the DRIVERS do ok.Sheppard212

Let me introduce you to my Toyota.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"] Realize how much time you have wasted sitting at a computer, on a chair watching television, or playing videogames Tell me, how is watching TV, or surfing a videogame website any more productive than playing WoW? Also I don't see how WoW is any more addictive than television or any other online videogame. Cataclysm is bringing a lot of new changes that seem to streamline the game, which is good because WoW has some archaic mechanics that need to go. Also I am very excited about the Vanilla world revamp, it actually gives me an excuse to play an alt.FleeceJohnson

people don't die because they watch tv.

The carrot on a stick nature of MMOs lend themselves to being addictive on an entirely different level than fps/rts or whatever. Someone who is deemed a casual player in an MMO would be considered super hardcore in any other genre. People skip out on important events in their lives to attend raids for a chance for an item upgrade. Back when wow had its old honor system, people put their lives on hold for 3 months straight just to hit rank 14.

I played wow, and prior to playing, I considered myself a typical gamer, I played all the games that everyone else played, I chose gaming over watching tv. But then, playing wow in a raiding guild with 50% attendence for 1 year, I was considered a casual gamer. Over the course of a year, I played 4-5 hours a night for 3-4 days a week and people considered me casual. That's a part time job for christ sakes.

I've made some really cool friends playing wow, some of which I've met IRL at xpac midnight openings or as a stop on the way to blizzcon. However, I have seen people literally destroy real life relationships over this game, quit their job, stop going to school. There are people who play games too much and then there are MMO players. I have not seen a genre disrupt daily life for as many people as I have seen with MMOs.

It sounds like you just have an addictive personality and can't play the game casually. You should stay away from it, the same way some people should stay away from alcohol or gambling. That doesn't make WoW inherently bad, it just means that you have impulse control problems.

I played WoW a few years back and had no problems keeping it to just a couple of hours every few nights. And then I cancelled it after a couple of months when I got bored. But then again, I don't have an addictive personality. I can drink one beer and leave it at that, or smoke a cigar once a year at a party and not become a regular smoker.

At what point did I say it ruined my life?

So what, we should do to WoW what the FCC isn't doing to the internet service providers? WoW can be addicting, but it's worth it to the player, even if they deny relatity. Subjective worth.

I'm not too impressed by Cata, but I'll look into it.

Looks great, but I stopped playing near the middle of WOTLK, as i realized it was slowly destroying my social life/social skills. Best decision I ever made.ice144

[QUOTE="ice144"]Looks great, but I stopped playing near the middle of WOTLK, as i realized it was slowly destroying my social life/social skills. Best decision I ever made.Advid-Gamer

The changes aren't really exciting, very bored of the game atm and won't resub (game time ends tomorrow), trying other MMOs for a change.3aNkabot

[QUOTE="3aNkabot"]The changes aren't really exciting, very bored of the game atm and won't resub (game time ends tomorrow), trying other MMOs for a change.testfactor888

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="ice144"]Looks great, but I stopped playing near the middle of WOTLK, as i realized it was slowly destroying my social life/social skills. Best decision I ever made.FelipeInside

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="ice144"]Looks great, but I stopped playing near the middle of WOTLK, as i realized it was slowly destroying my social life/social skills. Best decision I ever made.FelipeInside

In the wow community that is beyond casual. Typically people call people with that play style "terribles"

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] Same here, I lol at the people here that think you can -play WOW causualy. How? What are you going to do when you get to 80 or 85 in this case. You are going to have to raid or level toons for the rest of the time you play. If you raid you will need a guild, and if you are not there for all the raids you will be replaced with someone that will, or you can get in a casual guild that is complete fail and wipe on all night, or you can run circles around dal reading trade looking for a raid invite. All of that takes time, wow seems designed to work this way. Any one who plays wow "casualy" has to suck because this game is not about skill but how much time you devote to it. IN suck I mean by gear and what not

Advid-Gamer

Fair enough, I understand your point of view.

I mostly play it for the settings, the lore (exploration, places) and the great storyline lot's of people miss cause they just press ACCEPT on the quest instead of reading it. Guess not many people do....shame....