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#51 Unstoppable_1
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WoW is good at PVE but lacks at PVP. DAOC is the best PVP MMO out right now in my opinion.
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#52 Meu2k7
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I dunno, if you hate it, why not try guild wars or something? dnuggs40
I enjoyed WoW before it went down hill alot more than Guild Wars, so I think thats outta the question, all MMO's so far are doomed to copy WoW, for the $$$ , because people didnt get to see what an MMORPG is and not a MMOGrindFEST.
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#53 deactivated-6489064584842
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my name is sockerdudex if anyone else plays please talk

sockerdude

 

Are you kidding??

 

In China there are several people that died in front of the PC playing WoW, the money that you spend every month to play in blizzard servers. That game is like crack or cocaine.

There is some companies already established in China that produces gold coins, that they sell to addicted gamers for real money.

Do you think that this game is healthy and fair???? 

That game is a piece of s#§$ !!!! 

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#54 L_burna
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[QUOTE="sockerdude"]

my name is sockerdudex if anyone else plays please talk

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Are you kidding??

In China there are several people that died in front of the PC playing WoW, the money that you spend every month to play in blizzard servers. That game is like crack or cocaine.

There is some companies already established in China that produces gold coins, that they sell to addicted gamers for real money.

Do you think that this game is healthy and fair????

That game is a piece of s#§$ !!!!

then again, are you kidding? koreans die playing starcraft every week or so, yet you never hear people whining about starcraft being a piece of sh*t? furthermore, the MMO gold-selling business has existed since the Ultima Online, so don't blame WoW for that, WoW isn't perfect, and I for one am bored with it, but come on. QUIT TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS P.S: about the addiction thing, it's bullsh*t, I leveled my hunter to 60 in 2-3 months with 9 days played in total, and I still got my grades and social life up, you have to be socially retarded to actually really get addicted to it
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#55 deactivated-6489064584842
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QUIT TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS

P.S: about the addiction thing, it's bullsh*t, I leveled my hunter to 60 in 2-3 months with 9 days played in total, and I still got my grades and social life up, you have to be socially retarded to actually really get addicted to itsockerdude

 

Wow is a waste of time and money, when you get tired of Wow all that afford that you put into it is going to waste and also the money that you spend.

There's a lot of MMORPG that are free.

 

About that thing when you said that Koreans died with other games as well and that the gold coins business started a long time ago, this topic is about WoW not those games that you mentioned.

It's a fact that 10 persons already died playing WoW and the money that all users pay to blizzard and some people to pay for gold coins is a complete waste of money. Some people might really like this game, and I respect that position but WoW is killing people and ruining people's lives.

And about the P.S, I really doubt that's exactly truth.

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#56 Alaris83
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You're acting like a WoW CD put a gun to someone's head and pulled the trigger. If someone lets their life go down the dumpster for a game, they already have issues.

 

Also, I'm so sick and tired of hearing this lame "I won't play MMOs because you have to pay to play" arguement. It's just another way of saying you're a tightwad. You're not buying the GAME with your $50, you're buying the LICENSE to run it. It's no different than when you sign up for cable TV and then have to pay for the cable box.  But you know what? I've never seen people picketing the cable companies because they have to pay a monthly fee to watch HBO. Just like people pay money to join a sports club or a gym, you are paying for a SERVICE. So next time you're about to spout some drivel about, "Oh, I bought the game already, I shouldn't have to pay to play it!" just can it, because nobody cares how cheap you are.

/end rant

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#57 Laza-rus
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WoW is good game and I enjoyed it for the relatively short time that I played it (3 months). I commend Blizzard for reinventing yet another genre, breaking the stale mold of the MMO with a product that shines with the company's uncompromising ideals and characteristic polish that the gaming community has come to expect. As it is an MMO, however, it shares with other titles in the same vein the same shortcomings (endless grinding, the confirmation that people really are scum, etc.) the blatant attempt at developing a cash cow and, in Blizzard's case, ceasing the production of quality games. Blizzard has undoubtedly created the most successful example of the MMO, which is good for them, and the multitudes that enjoy it, but bad for those that are fans of its other venerable franchises that have been left to rot in gaming legend.
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#58 Virus214
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my name is sockerdudex if anyone else plays please talk

sockerdude
WoW kills people you know... many people a year die from extended playing lengths.. STOP PLAYING WoW. ITS BAD FOR YOU.
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#59 Meu2k7
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Ultima Online was all-round the best, problem is it costs a heap-load more to make one surpass it in all round-goodness, while creating an everquest-clone such as WoW took little effort at all, you can see how poorly designed both the engine and the coding is.

The linear Class system, /yawn.

Shaman - Caster DPS / Secondary Healer

Paladin - Melee Tank / Secondary Healer

PRiest - Primary Healer / Secondary DPS

Thats what it was in the first year, now though:

 Shaman - Primary Melee DPS or Primary Healer (no hybrids in WoW its a myth)

 Paladin Primary Healer / Secondary Tank >>

 Priest Primary DPS over PRimary HEaler

 

Yea thats right, Paladins have more Mana than Health, less armour that a melee dps shaman in dps gear, and its all-round accepted now by any smart guilds that Paladins should main heal and Priest spec shadow for the amazing DPS/Utility...

 Developers on it are awful.

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#60 dnuggs40
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"WoW took little effort at all, you can see how poorly designed both the engine and the coding is." lol You are so clueless it is not even funny... For your info, most developers consider WoW not only a great and hugely successful game, but also a technical marvel. The coding, engine, and network code for WoW is first class, wether you like the game or not is another issue entirely.
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#61 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="dnuggs40"]"WoW took little effort at all, you can see how poorly designed both the engine and the coding is." lol You are so clueless it is not even funny... For your info, most developers consider WoW not only a great and hugely successful game, but also a technical marvel. The coding, engine, and network code for WoW is first class, wether you like the game or not is another issue entirely.

You are full of it, the servers cannot handle mass player raids in the out-door enviroment BECAUSE the Engine cannot handle it, because of that instancing became the norm for PvP, yea you could send about 80 people into a city, but as you can see from many Faction-raid videos that take the **** because the second they start fighting the server boots it. The coding is disgraceful, Blue posts (Blizzard posters) on the forums along LONG time back, said things like Charge lag cannot be fixed due to the poor coding. Seriously ... Fan Boism to this degree is bad.... its main-stream, not perfection.
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#62 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"]"WoW took little effort at all, you can see how poorly designed both the engine and the coding is." lol You are so clueless it is not even funny... For your info, most developers consider WoW not only a great and hugely successful game, but also a technical marvel. The coding, engine, and network code for WoW is first class, wether you like the game or not is another issue entirely.

You are full of it, the servers cannot handle mass player raids in the out-door enviroment BECAUSE the Engine cannot handle it, because of that instancing became the norm for PvP, yea you could send about 80 people into a city, but as you can see from many Faction-raid videos that take the **** because the second they start fighting the server boots it. The coding is disgraceful, Blue posts (Blizzard posters) on the forums along LONG time back, said things like Charge lag cannot be fixed due to the poor coding. Seriously ... Fan Boism to this degree is bad.... its main-stream, not perfection.

I can show you videos of full scale capital city raids. 280 people raid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qR1-ImXG3MI Yet another: http://youtube.com/watch?v=glKKQFsVe10 67 man (not including horde) raid on Orgrimmer: http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1yHeJFC3ok Sure the servers have crashed, and there has been lag, but that is the exception, not the standard. I have personally done raids on capital cities with at least 150 on one side, and no server crash. What other game has this kind of HUGE pvp? Calling the coding disgracefull just shows your ignorance. Do you even realize how difficult it was for them to code this game? They support over 8 million people, do you know how difficult that is? You are insane. It's a technical marvel.
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#63 Meu2k7
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Oh dear god, you claim my ignorance over coding, you realize right that while theres 8,million ACCOUNTS NOT PLAYERS , on High Pop servers , such as Stormreaver for example, have a max of 1200 on each faction side according to Census on average at anyone time, that is nothing, FINALFANTASYONLINE had 4k+ on each continent, and had much more complex AI coding, and more graphically demanding. Technical Marvel -.- its a 6 year old Engine, that failed to provide what the game was original designed around (Horde vs Alliance in the World) when optimized ... VIDEO 1 - Oh look they didnt enter Ironforge, what a suprise ... Fighting alliance outside, doesnt cause too much server lag, when you include the poorly coded AI of the NPC's with the Data Stream of IronForge BAM server down. VIDEO 2 - Suprise No actually in-Ironforge recording >> Video 3 - wont load, but 67 Horde? so? These are taken before the Burning Crusade, now the only Raids are 20-40 lvl 70s ganking the Faction leaders, I would know Ive done it, theres not enough people in the cities thanks to SANCTUARY!LOL Shattrath , so there is no real defense, despite people being able to portal there.
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#64 dnuggs40
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8 million accounts...do you realize the data structure they have to employ in order to manage all that data? Of course not all 8 million play every day, thats a freaking given. But at some point over the last 3 years 8 MILLION people have logged into WoW, and it's safe to say at least 2-3 MILLION play regularly.

"FINALFANTASYONLINE had 4k+ on each continent, and had much more complex AI coding, and more graphically demanding."

 LOL Does FFXI even have raiding? So out of context it's not even funny. And more graphically demanding? YOU REALIZE THAT IS ALL DONE ON THE CLIENT SIDE RIGHT? You don't know the first thing about game engine or coding...

And those were just 3 random videos...there were HOUNDREDS to choose from youtube alone...

I would love to see how FFXI would handle 8 million accounts.  From the rants I have heard about that game, they can barely handle what they do have...

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#65 Golbeza
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Man, all this flame is kinda funny. I knew this thread was gonna be mostly negetive, most WoW threads are nowadays. xD Anyway, WoW is a decent game, but its too insanly addictive that its not even fun and it gets boring at Lv40+. I'd rather have a social life instead of a WoW life.

And I do agree that Guildwars is a better game. ;)

 

Anyway, happy hunting~

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#66 Meu2k7
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8 million accounts...do you realize the data structure they have to employ in order to manage all that data? Of course not all 8 million play every day, thats a freaking given. But at some point over the last 3 years 8 MILLION people have logged into WoW, and it's safe to say at least 2-3 MILLION play regularly.

What is your point with this? They were not prepared for 8 million players, but they didnt upgrade the hardware, they just unleashed a whole load more servers, which caused some servers to nearly die out, erm sorry not some, quite a few, again the cheap easy route out.

8 million ACCOUNTS not players, yeesh wake up to that reality will you.

LOL Does FFXI even have raiding? So out of context it's not even funny. And more graphically demanding? YOU REALIZE THAT IS ALL DONE ON THE CLIENT SIDE RIGHT? You don't know the first thing about game engine or coding...

-.- -.- -.- You like mis-interpretating dont you? Nice you picked out the Graphical side, and completely ignore the AI, There is alot more to the coding in actions, reactions and the general straming of the world, and yes there are raids, although not called raids, and the PvE is 10x more than pressing 2 buttons like on WoW so a WoW fan boy is in no position to take the **** of content.

And those were just 3 random videos...there were HOUNDREDS to choose from youtube alone...

Yea Yea, Hundreds ofcourse /yawn , I could say the same about "Server crashed while raiding LOL" Youtube vids aswell, point is you didnt show one that was valid.

I would love to see how FFXI would handle 8 million accounts. From the rants I have heard about that game, they can barely handle what they do have...

Played both, there was less servers, but alot more on each server, yea playerbase wasnt as large, that doesnt change teh fact that WoW's Servers & 6 year old engine are both so **** they had to go away from the main aim of the game and transform it into an everquest clone. More players? More Servers, the quality isnt effected remotley so again nice try.

Now go play it mindlessley, you have no idea the grief the game is getting the state it is in now, hence all the flaming on every forum ever, it was so last year, the expansion failed in many hardcore fans eyes (me for one).

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#67 dnuggs40
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I dont even play it anymore, but I know it is a quality game with a solid engine and coding. I am not the only one who feels that way ya know...it's won more MMO awards then any other MMO game in history, tell me, how is that possible if it is "disgraceful" engine with crappy coding? I have pointed out on more the one occassion your childish misconceptions and all you are doing is lashing out at the game. WoW is a technical masterpiece. While it is not without flaws (no game is without flaws), it certainly is not disgraceful. Thats the most idiotic thing I have ever heard...

You played the damn game for 2 freaking years, do you think anybody buys now all the sudden it is the crappiest game and it's engine and coding is disgraceful?  You freaking "scorned lovers of WoW" kinda piss me off.  You played the game so much and now you are sick of it, get over it.  I swear, it's like when people break up after 2 years, the only thing you have left is the hate and calling the other person names, meanwhile, forgetting everything else that made you stay with that person for 2 years.

 Just like a person who is hurt, you feel the need to now rag on everything and bash it...

Things like:

 "WoW took almost no effort at all"

 I mean...are you freaking serious?  Do you have any clue?  Either you are painfully ignorant or just a hurt ex lover wanting to get back at their partner who in the end couldn't live up to your rediculous expectations lol...

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#68 ForlornHope
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my name is sockerdudex if anyone else plays please talk

sockerdude

 

if you like uber repedtive level grinding and moronic swearing 13 year olds. i get enough of that on silkroad :roll: 

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#69 sockerdude
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Anyone have any tips for easily getting cash? i wanna get a 60g mount and im lv 10 dranei warrior
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#70 endtype
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Guild Wars>World Of Warcraftxxscammersxx

Agreed...WoW is just addicting...think about what you are doing in the game and how pointless it is and you will get burned out of WoW... 

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#71 Sheepofevilz
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No it's not. When it stops making profits, your character and everything you've ever 'accomplished' and wasted money on will be gone. Nothing you do in WoW will ever matter, not even in WoW.
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#72 blacktorn
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Yep it is by far the best MMORRPG ever created but i no longer care for mmorpg's because after spending 3 weeks non-stop on WOW last year i realised that it wasn't worth it,not only from a money point of view but time point of view.

MMORPG'S should be restricted to over 18's only imo

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#73 mightyfoot
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meuk has FAR too much time on his hands to keep coming back to this
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#74 SgtSilock
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World of warcraft has claimed yet another victum.
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#75 surroki
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Could someone brighten me but since when do you get anything of value from gaming in general? I always have though that i give out more money then i earn from it :P, but i guess it's only me isn't it. Just face it, the game has 8-9 million subscribers so it can't be a complete flop now can it? It has it's problems but who doesn't these days, but ok so you played it and now think it's crap and so on but for the love of god stop bashing it and move on. Get it out of your system and let the others enjoy it, it's just a game... :roll:
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#76 sockerdude
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meuk has FAR too much time on his hands to keep coming back to thismightyfoot
lol he is defending his point
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#77 stormtrooper32
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WoW>Guild Wars, I quit WoW though. Was hard to buy my soul back =P
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#78 sockerdude
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anyone created their own guild, or are in one
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#79 mightyfoot
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anyone created their own guild, or are in onesockerdude

join a guild called the dark dragons in aggammagon i made it but quit so i dont run it anymore. it has a cool tabard tho

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#80 sockerdude
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[QUOTE="sockerdude"]anyone created their own guild, or are in onemightyfoot

join a guild called the dark dragons in aggammagon i made it but quit so i dont run it anymore. it has a cool tabard tho

what does tabard do

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#81 sockerdude
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Also if anyone is a Halo fan you might want to check out this forum: http://www.halo411.jconserv.net/

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#82 llakallaka
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Can anyother game be more addictive...???
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#83 Meu2k7
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meuk has FAR too much time on his hands to keep coming back to thismightyfoot

 

Wow Avatar, go figure :roll:

It was done over a few days, and erm same could be said for Dnuggs, this topic keeps getting bumped.

I was done with it well over a week or 2. 

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#84 SlayerVlade
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Great! I have Burning Crusade too. Only... Excellent MMORPG!:lol:
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#85 sockerdude
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does the guild master get any profit when one of his guild members get a tabard