Wow, really Bioware?! (Massive SWTOR spoiler)

Way to go making playing one faction COMPLETELY pointless.

(DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPOIL JEDI KNIGHT STORY LINE!!!!!!!!) Linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnJeYVvhps

I'm sorry, but wtf was Bioware thinking?! I was actually enjoying the story lines, but this is just ******* stupid.

NOTE:I did not make it a clickable link so you cannot "Accidently" spoil it yourself

Please explain why this makes one faction pointless to play.

Please explain why this makes one faction pointless to play.

GummiRaccoon

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Please explain why this makes one faction pointless to play.

lordreaven

Well it is, ToR not ToE (the old empire). I am sure they have a plausible explanation why everything doesn't just collapse for the sith.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Please explain why this makes one faction pointless to play.

GummiRaccoon

Well it is, ToR not ToE (the old empire). I am sure they have a plausible explanation why everything doesn't just collapse for the sith.

I don't dare to check the link, so could someone explain what was so bad in a spoiler-free way?

Bad dialogue/writing? Bad ending? Stupidity?

I don't dare to check the link, so could someone explain what was so bad in a spoiler-free way?

Bad dialogue/writing? Bad ending? Stupidity?

Am_Confucius

I don't plan on playing republic, so.... :P

I don't plan on playing republic, so.... :P

Steameffekt

Oh, yeesh, I don't know if I dare to click the link. If it's so bad then it won't matter and I don't plan to play jedi-knight anyway (?). Too mainstream.

Caution {nerd rage} Its just a game.

Bioware retconned Obsidians work just so they can rip them off , true story.

"The Story with this emperor is this : He wants to Channel a spell to destroy the galaxy." but but bioware has dem stories!

MMO's have a story?

nerd rage levels are over 9000

Way to go making playing one faction COMPLETELY pointless.

(DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPOIL JEDI KNIGHT STORY LINE!!!!!!!!) Linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnJeYVvhps

I'm sorry, but wtf was Bioware thinking?! I was actually enjoying the story lines, but this is just ******* stupid.

NOTE:I did not make it a clickable link so you cannot "Accidently" spoil it yourself

lordreaven

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Way to go making playing one faction COMPLETELY pointless.

(DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPOIL JEDI KNIGHT STORY LINE!!!!!!!!) Linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnJeYVvhps

I'm sorry, but wtf was Bioware thinking?! I was actually enjoying the story lines, but this is just ******* stupid.

NOTE:I did not make it a clickable link so you cannot "Accidently" spoil it yourself

FelipeInside

It is Drew Crappyshyn who wrote the Jedi Knight story. What do you expect?

As for continuing the story...

[spoiler] A new emperor most likely will take his place, could perhaps one of the sith storylines lead to this? [/spoiler]

wow, that looked TERRIBAD. I guess SWTOR is a failure even amongst other theme-park MMOs.

The Dark Council rules The Empire, not the Sith Emperor

wow, that looked TERRIBAD. I guess SWTOR is a failure even amongst other theme-park MMOs.

QQabitmoar

The Dark Council rules The Empire, not the Sith Emperor

Darth_Kane

[QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

wow, that looked TERRIBAD. I guess SWTOR is a failure even amongst other theme-park MMOs.

FelipeInside

lets see, first it was, "the gameplay looks horrible, like a bad wow copy", then it was its bioware and its gonna focus on the story, now, the big awesome story is "some big bad sith want to use a spell to destroy the galaxy because hes bad like that". ok... so, it doesn't improve in gameplay, it doesn't improve in graphics, and it clearly does not imporve story (oh wait it has da voice acting). So what? did bioware think making a copy of something succesful would automatically make it succesful too?? what did they get right?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="QQabitmoar"]

wow, that looked TERRIBAD. I guess SWTOR is a failure even amongst other theme-park MMOs.

Krelian-co

lets see, first it was, "the gameplay looks horrible, like a bad wow copy", then it was its bioware and its gonna focus on the story, now, the big awesome story is "some big bad sith want to use a spell to destroy the galaxy because hes bad like that". ok... so, it doesn't improve in gameplay, it doesn't improve in graphics, and it clearly does not imporve story (oh wait it has da voice acting). So what? did bioware think making a copy of something succesful would automatically make it succesful too?? what did they get right?

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Theme Park MMO is the new word in fashion. And what a great review from you saying SWTOR is a failure from one cut-scene....FelipeInside

lets see, first it was, "the gameplay looks horrible, like a bad wow copy", then it was its bioware and its gonna focus on the story, now, the big awesome story is "some big bad sith want to use a spell to destroy the galaxy because hes bad like that". ok... so, it doesn't improve in gameplay, it doesn't improve in graphics, and it clearly does not imporve story (oh wait it has da voice acting). So what? did bioware think making a copy of something succesful would automatically make it succesful too?? what did they get right?

I agree the game is fine, and all the haters will be owned after release and a few months after, its the best mmo to come out since wow. You think people would be excited seeing how they have been waiting for this but no they still complain. Advid-Gamer

Thats what i heard when warhammer, AoC , aion, rift and other "the best" mmos were comming out, they all failed in a long term. Like it or not, soon SW:TOR will join that list also.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]I agree the game is fine, and all the haters will be owned after release and a few months after, its the best mmo to come out since wow. You think people would be excited seeing how they have been waiting for this but no they still complain. Haarhus

Thats what i heard when warhammer, AoC , aion, rift and other "the best" mmos were comming out, they all failed in a long term. Like it or not, soon SW:TOR will join that list also.

If people knew what i knew people would complain more.

Ridiculously stupid story aside, the only positive I saw from the video was that the voice acting is pretty solid. However, their dialogue was pretty cheese-tastic though. The animations were also terrible, and the whole thing looked about as epic as one of those beginner quest cutscenes, despite the fact that this is supposed to be the FINAL part of the story.

Ridiculously stupid story aside, the only positive I saw from the video was that the voice acting is pretty solid. However, their dialogue was pretty cheese-tastic though. The animations were also terrible, and the whole thing looked about as epic as one of those beginner quest cutscenes, despite the fact that this is supposed to be the FINAL part of the story.

xionvalkyrie

If people knew what i knew people would complain more.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

I don't understand anything of what's going on here.F1_2004

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]I don't understand anything of what's going on here.lordreaven

[QUOTE="Haarhus"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]I agree the game is fine, and all the haters will be owned after release and a few months after, its the best mmo to come out since wow. You think people would be excited seeing how they have been waiting for this but no they still complain. wis3boi

Thats what i heard when warhammer, AoC , aion, rift and other "the best" mmos were comming out, they all failed in a long term. Like it or not, soon SW:TOR will join that list also.

you really think the star wars brand will save a mediocre mmorpg? its the sole reason it has so much pre orders. give it a year.

I found the trooper story pretty lacking too

[spoiler] When Havoc squad was deserting to the empire, I yelled take me too at my screen [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]

Ridiculously stupid story aside, the only positive I saw from the video was that the voice acting is pretty solid. However, their dialogue was pretty cheese-tastic though. The animations were also terrible, and the whole thing looked about as epic as one of those beginner quest cutscenes, despite the fact that this is supposed to be the FINAL part of the story.

wis3boi

I guess they spent that ridiculous budget on drugs and hookers then.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]

Ridiculously stupid story aside, the only positive I saw from the video was that the voice acting is pretty solid. However, their dialogue was pretty cheese-tastic though. The animations were also terrible, and the whole thing looked about as epic as one of those beginner quest cutscenes, despite the fact that this is supposed to be the FINAL part of the story.

xionvalkyrie

I guess they spent that ridiculous budget on drugs and hookers then.

[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]I don't understand anything of what's going on here.F1_2004

I found the trooper story pretty lacking too

Led_poison

EDIT: your spoiler tag would not allow me to reply, that's why it's not in my qoute.

Don't know what you're talking about (story wise), but actual story aside, that was terrible on so many levels, it's the worst thing I saw this entire year, I wanted to get it in Jan, but looks like I'll go to my initial plan and give it 3-6 months to get some more patches.DanielDust

wow, that looked TERRIBAD. I guess SWTOR is a failure even amongst other theme-park MMOs.

QQabitmoar

Huh, what a fitting name.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]

I found the trooper story pretty lacking too

lordreaven

EDIT: your spoiler tag would not allow me to reply, that's why it's not in my qoute.

They could have easily fixed this by having Havoc squad more invovled with you, they only acted as quests givers. So you do not feel any connection to them. The voice overs can only help so much.

One way they could have improved was by having quests where you are a part of Havoc squad in a combat scenerio. Where Tavis is barking orders, the squad going up against impossible odds. You have to overcome those odds. They could have added mechanics where i.e. Needles goes down and you become the "healer" and heal the squad or where Tavis goes down and you become the "tank" and tank the mobs. (This would be before level 10) so you are introduced to trooper mechanics and after you reach 10, you decide which you liked better.

The questing in this game is really bland and not only does this imrpove the story, it improves the questing, and introduces you to class mechanics.This feels like a lot of wasted potential.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]I agree the game is fine, and all the haters will be owned after release and a few months after, its the best mmo to come out since wow. You think people would be excited seeing how they have been waiting for this but no they still complain. Haarhus

Thats what i heard when warhammer, AoC , aion, rift and other "the best" mmos were comming out, they all failed in a long term. Like it or not, soon SW:TOR will join that list also.

But those games already had many complaints in Beta. I don't see ToR having that many complaints...

Also, 1 million preorders I heard..? and that's not counting the countries were it isn't realeased yet. (at launch)

But those games already had many complaints in Beta. I don't see ToR having that many complaints...

Also, 1 million preorders I heard..? and that's not counting the countries were it isn't realeased yet. (at launch)FelipeInside

900k American physical pre orders alone. That's not including other countries or online preorders, which is where evereyone I know including myself preordered, . So i'm gonna just guess around 3 million pre orders, could be more. Whether it can hold these numbers and/or bring more is still to be determined. I easily have high hopes myself.

TOR gets lots of complaints from GW2/WoW fanboys, people upset it's not a sandbox game, and people who have not given it a try; or if had, went in with the mindset of solely looking for flaws. I find that the latter would be a bit hard overall, but people do it.

Way to go making playing one faction COMPLETELY pointless.

(DON'T CLICK IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPOIL JEDI KNIGHT STORY LINE!!!!!!!!) Linky:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnJeYVvhps

I'm sorry, but wtf was Bioware thinking?! I was actually enjoying the story lines, but this is just ******* stupid.

NOTE:I did not make it a clickable link so you cannot "Accidently" spoil it yourself

lordreaven

so whats the problem? watch it and wasnt really shock by it.

so whats the problem? watch it and wasnt really shock by it.

TheShadowLord07