Wtf on L4D....

Last time I checked, it had 20 levels. Battlefield games didn't have mission-based objectives. You're forgetting that boss zombies are also playable - so it's not just "5/6" weapons.

Well you mean in a high difficulty with coop? I agree but should we play every game on the highest diffiulity Ohh and gears of war was a game that people played alone despite the the coop on the easiest difficulity.. still has more maps., i mean 3 years for such a few maps? How did that happen?

[QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="Hellboard"]

Ohh yeah? did battlefield series gave you so few maps? Where they in development for such a long time with such bad graphics?

Hellboard

[QUOTE="Hellboard"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"] The graphics aren't bad at all. Are you crazy?GodLovesDead

My point is that for 3 years in development it really lacks stuff.. its like wtf did only 1 guy made this game? kinda weird...Hellboard

GodLovesDead already gave you the correct answer.

Just in case you missed it:

Hellboard, the focus was put on making fun and replayable maps. Quality over quantity. I've replayed No Mercy on Versus atleast 30+ times, and I'm still not bored. And in a few months, there'll be large amounts of community created maps. GodLovesDead

Obviously the developers didn't want to mass-produce a ton of generic maps that nobody will ever play. They instead opted to spend alot of time creating fewer distinct, unique, balanced and replayable maps. What it sounds like you're calling for is a bunch of filler content..i.e. the trash that most multiplayer games come with: a ton of mediocre/bad maps that *never* get played by the community, and maybe two or three good ones among those that are vastly overplayed. That is NOT a good thing.

Regardless, the mod community will soon enough take care of your irrational complaint(s).

For a brand new full product there really should be at least a 10 hour single player campaign, that's standard. And there has to be a friggin story.ShimmerMan

No offense, but I think you've got the wrong genre if you're looking for a fulfilling singleplayer experience and a good storyline.

Aside from a couple (older) gems, only the FPS-RPG hybrids ever provide what you're looking for..but unfortunately, that isn't exactly a subgenre that's teeming with life.

The game is definitely "fun". But since when has quality been a exscuse for lacking quanity in the visual media world. Would a film which is hilariously funny, but only 30 min long ever be pushed out of the door and into the cinema or onto dvd at a full price tag? Sure the film might be so funny that you want to watch it 30 times, but a 30 min movie with a full dvd price tag is a rip off imo. Why would it be any different from video game media..ShimmerMan

Maybe because you guys need to learn to stop your selective blindness? Apart from the oblivions of this world, may they be called BGs, NWN, FO, Witcher, which game do you play for more than 10 hours? Dead space, bioshock, name them, they are all short games tagged at full price. You really are making a dull point here. Play a campaign on advanced or expert, doing the full campaign takes about one hour, there's 4 campaigns, so 4 hours of gameplay just for the campaign mode, and the versus mode is a completely different experience. Also, new maps are on their way, may it be community ones, or official ones.

You guys really are whining for nothing.

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] I don't understand this, the game has far more replayability, and gives you play times far exceeding the average shooter.. Some people put more time in the DEMO alone then some of the new shooters out there like the Farcry 2.. Take Farcry 2 for instance, just about every one says there is no replayability to it form what I have seen.. And it lasts at best 20 hours.. Some people spent more time in the demo then Farcry 2 for crying otu loud! Furthermore Valve has shown that it will only add more things.. TF2 is proof of this, so far it has added more then ever is usually expected form patchs with shooters, and it is only going to add more.. And they have said that they will support this game more then they did with TF2! Furthermore Versus mode is where the real game is at with a fun competition.

And yes pure genious, a 4 hour singleplayer game instead of a fully co-op game iwth tons of replayability..

kalossimitar

Imo this game is not that different from lets say Counterstrike-source, which is a mod. And also has no story, little to no worth in singleplayer. but has loads of replay ability online.. The difference is though CS:S doesn't cost the same price as a full game, unlike L4D.

WTH are you on about? L4D is similar to CS or TF2, were those two about story? Anyways, sorry to ruin it for you, but L4D is meant to be played with other people, the fact that we can play campaigns by ourself is just a cute little addition, thats not the main point of the game.

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]For a brand new full product there really should be at least a 10 hour single player campaign, that's standard. And there has to be a friggin story.Velocitas8

No offense, but I think you've got the wrong genre if you're looking for a fulfilling singleplayer experience and a good storyline.

Aside from a couple (older) gems, only the FPS-RPG hybrids ever provide what you're looking for..but unfortunately, that isn't exactly a subgenre that's teeming with life.

I don't have the wrong genre. There's plenty of good multiplayer FPS games out there that provide a good story driven single player experience and a good multiplayer one. Half Life/HL2, COD4 for example.

And if the game wanted to concentrate solely on multiplayer. Then it needed a lot more content than it currently provides. It's by and large a co-op game. And it takes around 4 hours to complete the full game on co-op. And has 5/6 weapons. That's quite poor For 50$/60$ it should take more like 15-20 hours to complete the game, and it should have a lot more weapons and different level objectives.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]For a brand new full product there really should be at least a 10 hour single player campaign, that's standard. And there has to be a friggin story.ShimmerMan

No offense, but I think you've got the wrong genre if you're looking for a fulfilling singleplayer experience and a good storyline.

Aside from a couple (older) gems, only the FPS-RPG hybrids ever provide what you're looking for..but unfortunately, that isn't exactly a subgenre that's teeming with life.

I don't have the wrong genre. There's plenty of good multiplayer FPS games out there that provide a good story driven single player experience and a good multiplayer one. Half Life/HL2, COD4 for example.

And if the game wanted to concentrate solely on multiplayer. Then it needed a lot more content than it currently provides. It's by and large a co-op game. And it takes around 4 hours to complete the full game on co-op. And has 5/6 weapons. That's quite poor For 50$/60$ it should take more like 15-20 hours to complete the game, and it should have a lot more weapons and different level objectives.

Firstly, I don't even think Valve made it - didn't they just buy it and polish it up?

Secondlly, I've only put ~35 hours into it so far, but I don't really have any complaints. It does everything that it was supposed to do, and it does it extremely well.

Planeforger

Yeah, turtle rock studios made it. The guys who made counter strike and cs source

[QUOTE="Hellboard"]My point is that for 3 years in development it really lacks stuff.. its like wtf did only 1 guy made this game? kinda weird...Velocitas8

GodLovesDead already gave you the correct answer.

Just in case you missed it:

Hellboard, the focus was put on making fun and replayable maps. Quality over quantity. I've replayed No Mercy on Versus atleast 30+ times, and I'm still not bored. And in a few months, there'll be large amounts of community created maps. GodLovesDead

Obviously the developers didn't want to mass-produce a ton of generic maps that nobody will ever play. They instead opted to spend alot of time creating fewer distinct, unique, balanced and replayable maps. What it sounds like you're calling for is a bunch of filler content..i.e. the trash that most multiplayer games come with: a ton of mediocre/bad maps that *never* get played by the community, and maybe two or three good ones among those that are vastly overplayed. That is NOT a good thing.

Regardless, the mod community will soon enough take care of your irrational complaint(s).

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Firstly, I don't even think Valve made it - didn't they just buy it and polish it up?

Secondlly, I've only put ~35 hours into it so far, but I don't really have any complaints. It does everything that it was supposed to do, and it does it extremely well.

Pengu-X

Yeah, turtle rock studios made it. The guys who made counter strike and cs source

[QUOTE="Pengu-X"][QUOTE="Planeforger"]

Firstly, I don't even think Valve made it - didn't they just buy it and polish it up?

Secondlly, I've only put ~35 hours into it so far, but I don't really have any complaints. It does everything that it was supposed to do, and it does it extremely well.

Hellboard

Yeah, turtle rock studios made it. The guys who made counter strike and cs source

without valve it wouldnt of been anywhere near the quality title it is today.

It is also easy to tell the people who are complaining about the game and its price have never played the game or intended to yet think they know the game inside out. It is just a shame they have made up their minds instead of enjoying the game for what it is. I have put in 20 hours in the game only playing 2 campaigns and versus wihout touching the other campaigns yet, this has also been done with playing on expert only a few times. The map time for each campaign can easily reach 1hour and a half on advanc and go up to 4 hours on expert.

The game is far more than a mod and deserves to have a full price tag. the content really isnt lacking as the AI director is really a first of its kind lengthening each campaign imensly. The game truly shines when playing with friends, mics and on the hardest difficulties to.

So you say that gameplay time on campaign is longer if you play on a higher difficulity? Does that involve dying? If thats so then every extremely hard game is the longest game ever...Hellboard

[QUOTE="Hellboard"]So you say that gameplay time on campaign is longer if you play on a higher difficulity? Does that involve dying? If thats so then every extremely hard game is the longest game ever...Qixote