Yet once again reviewers on this site demonstrate that they are biased!!!

Just read the Divinity 2 review and i must say that again, the reviewer nitpicked the game and destroyed it to the eyes of potential buyers.

The reviewer is always talking in the sense that the game " should have been like this" instead of judging the game for what it is. All the time you feel that the reviewer is comparing this game to another one and seemed to find the game a chore instead of enjoying it. God i wish the site would overhaul their way of reviewing the games, i am really fed up of reviewers who are biased and seem litterally paid to give high praise on specific games. Instead of helping the industry they are helping destroy it. The reviewer failed also to get proper info and stated that the game has many issues but like i said failed to mention that the developper studio is working on a patch to clean out the tech problems. A good reviewer would have had least mentionned that in his review to show people that if they do decide to invest in the game, that at least they would not completely loose their money.

The review is pure negative crapiness and a younger person would have probably balanced his or her review with positives and negatives. That review was overly negative and does nto really give a chance to the game.

nuff said!

The demo was meh so im not suprised it got 6.5 .

Yeah when i tried the demo it just did hit me that this would be a game worth spending hours to complete along with bad hardware performance.

Another gamespot review i totally dissagree with, but ohh well in the end its just an opinion. Game is 8.5/10 for me so far and very fun.

It has average graphics and bad presentation but amazing story, awesome gameplay and great music. Also tons of exploration and stuff to find.

Not as good as Divine Divinity but still a very good rpg with tons of good elements.

Give me a great story, good gameplay and lots of fun missions anyday over better graphics or better presentation.

If you are on the fence about this game, pick it up.
And yet another game that a demo doesnt do the full game justice. I didnt like the demo much but full version is fantastic.

But these days it seems if you dont have flashy graphics and good presentation that the game wont get a good review.

Divinity2 and Risen both were much better then there scores got imo. There is so many missions and also fun side quests also.

Yes the game has some issues but to me there are far more positives then negatives.

I've always relied on a sample of user reviews rather than the official ones. A much better indicator for mine. 8)nightharvest

Me to... try teh game myself or check alot of user reviews.

Its a shame that people will miss out on this game just because of this reivew to ):

Even though I dissagree with the review and score, Kevin is still the lone gamespot reviewer who I really enjoy reading reviews from (even if I dissagree with them).

I think they should remove the one word and number ratings, leaving the review as an opinion.sun-son

[QUOTE="sun-son"]I think they should remove the one word and number ratings, leaving the review as an opinion.millerlight89

I have no performance issues with the game. Runs well on my pc and havnt had one crash yet at all, so i donno about performance issues being a fact.

Seems more like an opinion to me about the performance problems, as me and many of the reviews outside of north america didnt mention any performance problems either.

I respect your OPINION about the game and others, but thats exactly what that is.. an opinion as you said first. Stating that the story sucks or that there are performance issues are opinions, not everyone is going to have the same issues or enjoy parts of the game the same as others.

Some computers might run this game badly, while others run it very well. PLayed 15 hours of the game so far and not had any parts were I thought the framerate was bad or a problem. The game runs fine on the 3 computers ive tried it on so far.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="sun-son"]I think they should remove the one word and number ratings, leaving the review as an opinion.kozzy1234

I have no performance issues with the game. Runs well on my pc and havnt had one crash yet at all, so i donno about performance issues being a fact.
Seems more like an opinion to me about the performance problems, as me and many of the reviews outside of north america didnt mention any performance problems either.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] It is an opinion with the number. Removing it will not change things. Alot of people like myself had already made up their minds that it wasn't for them. I thought it was lame and uninspiring that is my opinion much like the review. Though the performance issues with this game is pure fact and really hurt it for me. I don't mind if it dosen't have high-end graphical detail, but it should run better than 50 - 60 frames for me.millerlight89

I have no performance issues with the game. Runs well on my pc and havnt had one crash yet at all, so i donno about performance issues being a fact.
Seems more like an opinion to me about the performance problems, as me and many of the reviews outside of north america didnt mention any performance problems either.

The game runs bad on YOUR COMPUTER. Not everyones, how can you not understand that? Ive played the game on my pc and two of my friends pcs and it doesnt run bad.

It cant be a fact if there are people out there playing the game with no huge performances issues like yourself?

Its the same with Crysis or Stalker.. some people complain about the game runnign really bad.... well guess what? Some people can run those games well.

Divinity2 runs very well on my pc and others, sorry but the performance issues are not a fact for everyone. Maybe for YOUR and YOUR computer, but for some they dont experience those issues.

There are some reviews that mention performance issues and there are OTHER reviews that dont mention performance issues at all.

To me the only downfall in this game is the graphics/presentation. Everything else is done well imo.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I have no performance issues with the game. Runs well on my pc and havnt had one crash yet at all, so i donno about performance issues being a fact.
Seems more like an opinion to me about the performance problems, as me and many of the reviews outside of north america didnt mention any performance problems either.

kozzy1234

The game runs bad on YOUR COMPUTER. Not everyones, how can you not understand that? Ive played the game on my pc and two of my friends pcs and it doesnt run bad.

It cant be a fact if there are people out there playing the game with no huge performances issues like yourself?

For me personally, I tried both the 360 and the pc versions of this game and the 360 one has some framerate issues when moving the camera which is annoying, but the pc version runs very smooth for me and no crashes.

Im not just going to say the game has bad performance unless I have experienced it myself first hand. But on the 3 pcs I tried it on I had no issues, only the 360 version.

Thats just from my personal experience.

I definatly agree with this review below...

The Sequel to Divine Divinity is finally here and comes to us in the form of Divinity II: Ego Draconis. While this title is a follow up, it is not a necessity to have played the previous title, because Divinity II: Ego Draconis breathes fresh life into what was becoming a cookie-cutter RPG genre. From the moment of starting the game, the hard work put in by the team at Larian Studios is made apparent by the immensely detailed lands and great gameplay.

"To know your Enemy, You must become your Enemy". Never has this been more true than in Divinity II: Ego Draconis, where you make the transition between Slayer of Dragons to Dragon Knight. Even though there is a not much of a choice at all for you to say yes or no, who would really say no to the ability to change into an all-powerful, fire-breathing beast? While this is a high selling point of the game, you still have put some work in completing quests to have this ability, which provides the proverbial "gamer carrot".

While playing the Divinity II: Ego Draconis, you will notice that the title is always providing you something to do. It was refreshing to see that there wasn't bland character interaction.A lot of humor isinjected in this game with your character and NPCs dialogue. While on your main quest, you have the ability to take on many side quests to increase your character's inventory and level up. One of the perks that will aid you in finding your way Rivellon is the ability to read the minds of characters you encounter. This will aid you in pulling their strings to eventually get what you want. However, don't expect to use this power on everyone as it will cost you experience points each time you use it.

Options for character customization are lacking from what is to be expected in a game like this one. Facial, hair, and voice are some of the very few options available to you at the start and many stages throughout the title. What seems to make up for the visual options, is the ability to obtain points and take total control of your character into what you want him/her to be.In playing Divinity II: Ego Draconis, it is best to move your points around the different characteristics (Priest, Warrior, and Dragon Slayer are some of the choices) as a result of not doing so, could make things difficult for your later on in the game. Mental civil wars will be waged as you decide if you want experience, money or the choice of other items, each time you are offered a reward.

Visually the game is stunning. From flowing rivers to the lush forests, you will be amazed at some of the lands you encounter. While visiting the places, you will notice that the combat is done in real time and initially can be quite complicated if given an onslaught of enemies. Luckily there is a lock on system in place that lets you place your attention on one enemy, all the while jumping to get out of the way of the others.

Divinity II: Ego Draconis is a well done RPG, that brings a lot to the table. The title puts a new spin on the genre and will keep the user highly entertained with over 60 hours of gameplay. While the Dragon themed games are nothing new, the folks at Larian Studios are taking it to a higher level of expectations. Divinity II: Ego Draconis is nowavailable for Xbox 360 and PC.

Rating: 9/10

Plus/Minus

+Great quests

+Graphically stunning/Terrific music presentation

+New take on an old concept

-Lack of character customization

-At times, difficult to start a conversation with characters, due to awkward movement.

^^ No mention of performance issues.. just like me he doesnt find performance issues a problem in this game.

Yeah but its known for having perfomance issues, its not what you would call super optimized!!dakan45

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] No it isn't an opinion. How can a fact that it runs bad be aa opinion? It is a fact. 45 on average is really low for my hardware on a not so graphically good looking game.

millerlight89

The game runs bad on YOUR COMPUTER. Not everyones, how can you not understand that? Ive played the game on my pc and two of my friends pcs and it doesnt run bad.

It cant be a fact if there are people out there playing the game with no huge performances issues like yourself?

Well me and the 3 computers I ran it on it was running great.

Im not alone either, there are tons of reviews that dont mention any perforamnce issues. Maybe an upgrade to your pc is in order.

Yeah but its known for having perfomance issues, its not what you would call super optimized!!dakan45

Its known to have issues for some people, a small portion of the people. I dont have any framerate dips in this game at all.

Im not syaing its a fact that its got great performance, as people will have differn experiences with the game. For me it runs very well, the performance is not even a slight problem for me.

A game that is badly made and optimized? Saints Row 2 on pc, not this game, it unrs very well for me and others.

This is a game that will work very well for some and not so well for others.

You cant say its 100% poor performance or 100% bad performance, as people are experiencing differnt performances. Check the forums, chekc other reviews.. not everyone is having performance problems.

Some people said Dragon Age, Crysis, Stalker and ARMA2 ran horribly for them, but for some they run well.

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Yeah but its known for having perfomance issues, its not what you would call super optimized!!kozzy1234

Its known to have issues for some people, a small portion of the people. I dont have any framerate dips in this game at all.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]Yeah but its known for having perfomance issues, its not what you would call super optimized!!millerlight89

Its known to have issues for some people, a small portion of the people. I dont have any framerate dips in this game at all.

Yours LOW and mine are HIGH, get over it. Not everyone has low frames like you on this game.

My friend dioesnt get good performance on TF2 but he doesnt say its a FACT that it has bad performance.. its just on his pc that hes experiencing that. Same with my on Divinty2, it runs at a constant good framerate.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

The game runs bad on YOUR COMPUTER. Not everyones, how can you not understand that? Ive played the game on my pc and two of my friends pcs and it doesnt run bad.

It cant be a fact if there are people out there playing the game with no huge performances issues like yourself?

kozzy1234

Well me and the 3 computers I ran it on it was running great.

Im not alone either, there are tons of reviews that dont mention any perforamnce issues. Maybe an upgrade to your pc is in order.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] It is a FACT that the game has performance issues. I can't help that you think that it doesn't. You may be completely happy with the frames you get, but it doesn't mean you should not be getting more.

millerlight89

Well me and the 3 computers I ran it on it was running great.

Im not alone either, there are tons of reviews that dont mention any perforamnce issues. Maybe an upgrade to your pc is in order.

Well something is wrong with your pc if you are getting LOW framerates the whole time, something is definatly wrong.

Someone messaged me on gamespot and said they were having issues... they stopped overclocking and there framerate issues went back up, maybe thats your issue?

All I know forsure is that the game runs well for me and many others, so its not a FACT that the game has abd performance for eveyrone, thats ridicolous.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Well me and the 3 computers I ran it on it was running great.

Im not alone either, there are tons of reviews that dont mention any perforamnce issues. Maybe an upgrade to your pc is in order.

kozzy1234

Well something is wrong with your pc if you are getting LOW framerates the whole time, something is definatly wrong.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I need to upgrade my PC? LOL. That kind of shows that you don't know that much about the technical side of PC gaming. millerlight89

Well something is wrong with your pc if you are getting LOW framerates the whole time, something is definatly wrong.

TO MILLER... Try the FULL GAME instead of just the demo. I cant belive you are basing a game just off the demo. There have been TONS of games that i hated the demo for and the full versino was alot of fun and RAN ALOT BETTER.

Well then I guess myself and others are just lying about not having performance issues then:roll:

Because I am honestly not playing this game with low framerates or even remotely low. And I do know what low or bad performance for games is and im not getting that one bit for this game.

Done with this thread, just thought I would give my OPINION.

To those who are not sure of this game.. give it a try, its tons of fun. Has great gameplay, good music, a good story and tons of missions to do. I wasnt impressed with the demo but the full game is very fun and runs well. Give it a try if you like old shcool rpgs and want a game that will last a long time.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Well something is wrong with your pc if you are getting LOW framerates the whole time, something is definatly wrong.

kozzy1234

Well then I guess myself and others are just lying about not having performance issues then. Because I am not playing this game with low framerates or even remotely low.

I would say the game is like gothic 3, badly coded for some people it run like crap for some others it run very well, like me!!!dakan45

[QUOTE="dakan45"]I would say the game is like gothic 3, badly coded for some people it run like crap for some others it run very well, like me!!!millerlight89

You said its a fact that it has bad performance for everyone, you are wrong. Me and Dakan run the game well. This is what ive been saying the whole time... some run it very well others not so well. Just because you cant run it well doesnt mean others cant run it good.

You are basing a game off a demo and not the full game which is ridicolous, as are your hardware comments about me.

The game runs well for me and Dakan so your so called FACTS are wrong.

Here is an idea... try the full version of a game before talking so much trash about it. Im glad Kevin and others review games they actually play the full version of and not just a demo.

Nothing you have said in this thread is a FACT... other then for you personally the DEMO ran bad.

Also I didnt read your hardware in your sig to see what hardware you had. Its just when someone says something isnt running well for them usually an upgrade, driver help, cleaning there computers or takign it easy on the overclocks can fix things. I fix computers for part of my living so you can cut it out with the KOZZY KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT HARDEWARE nonsense that you are saying because its not true.

I was simply trying to get across that NOT EVERYONE has issues with this game and that is all. Me and tons of others run the game very well, while some dont run the gaem well. If what you said was facts.. then EVERYONE would be running the game bad.

If you knew so much about computers then you would know that DEMOS are not full representation of a game. Trashing a game without playing the full game is a little silly.

The reviewer is always talking in the sense that the game " should have been like this" instead of judging the game for what it is. All the time you feel that the reviewer is comparing this game to another one and seemed to find the game a chore instead of enjoying it. God i wish the site would overhaul their way of reviewing the games, i am really fed up of reviewers who are biased and seem litterally paid to give high praise on specific games. Instead of helping the industry they are helping destroy it. The reviewer failed also to get proper info and stated that the game has many issues but like i said failed to mention that the developper studio is working on a patch to clean out the tech problems. A good reviewer would have had least mentionned that in his review to show people that if they do decide to invest in the game, that at least they would not completely loose their money.

kokonut1971

That the developer is working on patches that MIGHT fix bugs and clean up the tech problems is irrelevant. They can, and should, only review what is there right now, they can't review based on the patches that might be coming out. After all, there is no way for them to know if the patches will come out in a timely manner, if they will fix things, or even if they might make things worse. If the reviewer found the game to have issues, that's exactly what they were supposed to state, full stop. The dev working on things doesn't even come into it. That the dev should be working on patches to clean up the tech issues should be assumed, and should add nothing to the review score.

Miller, you do not have a clue about what is going on. You cannot base judgment on a game because of a demo, a demo which has been said to not run really well, and most of the time the demo will say " not representing final product" or something similar to that so you cannot base your final say on a demo.

You been flaming this thread about low fps but you have yet to say your specs which could very well tell us if you can actually run the damn game or not.

Also your machine could be bogged down but all kinds of things. reformating every 6 months is the norm... if you have been on the same windows installfor over a year or morethen you can really complain because it is your own fault if your rig does not run smooth as silk and you have problems with some games.

I run the game maxed out with no issues and the framerate is decent. I even tested the game on my GF laptop and if i put some settings down the game runs fine and still looks great. So if a laptop can run the game and still look decent then i would say your machine has a problem.

It was known at the time that kevin wrote the review that the game was being patched. In fact the US version got patch 1.03 before everybody else. larian is working on updating every language version to the same version then do a super patch to fix issues and maybe put in some feautre request by fans.

If Kevin would have done is homework he would have told this to people. I remember Jason Ocampo doing the review for the original stalker and during the review he made a point of saying that the dev were working on patching the game which showed a lot of integrity and ocampo gained my respect because he did go above and beyond in the review and fans knew the whole deal about the game. I did not see kevin do this...

Why would he buy the game if he is geting low fps in the demo sure he cant judge the entire game but if in the demo which i supposed to be a small snipet of the game in which a person is supposed to see if they like it he is geting low fps why would he buy the full version?

Also if a demo does not represent the final product wtf is for then?

[QUOTE="dakan45"]I would say the game is like gothic 3, badly coded for some people it run like crap for some others it run very well, like me!!!millerlight89

Maybe its ATI drivers dude ??? I have no problems running the game with really good FPS.

I've always relied on a sample of user reviews rather than the official ones. A much better indicator for mine. 8)nightharvest

I would have to disagree with this, for these reasons:

1. Take Dragon Age (PC): Several dozen user reviews popped-up only seven hours after official release. I would lend zero credence to all of them, as the writers never finished the game prior to their review.

2. On the other hand, Kevin Van Ord played the entire game, then penned his review, which was spot-on.

Just read the Divinity 2 review and i must say that again, the reviewer nitpicked the game and destroyed it to the eyes of potential buyers.

nuff said!

kokonut1971

1. Did you play the entire game as the reviewer did?

2. Did you actively look for the bugs and glitches he pointed out?

i was closeto buying it, but the demo runs badly on my pc (which meets the rec. spec.) so i've decided to hold on. will wait for more reviews to come in.

[QUOTE="kokonut1971"]

Just read the Divinity 2 review and i must say that again, the reviewer nitpicked the game and destroyed it to the eyes of potential buyers.

nuff said!

topsemag55

1. Did you play the entire game as the reviewer did?

2. Did you actively look for the bugs and glitches he pointed out?

Did Kevin play all of dragon age?

Did you/kevin ever go to the official forum of dragon age where technical issues abound? Memory leaks ( admitted by Bioware person) ati/amd issues, stuff that is not working left and right, dlc's that are late, but noooooooo the game got 9.5 what a joke! It is a good game mind you but nowhere near perfect as the reviewer makes it to look like.