You will have to pay for your own dedicated server in Black ops, thoughts?

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#51 KLONE360
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IT MAKES ME ANGWY this is no better than MW2 as far as I'm concerned...

Yes it's redic I can't host my own servers and customize them the way I WANT

ROAR

And the way I want typically means stock but I have super awesome servers.

JigglyWiggly_
^This. This Type of deal is also on BC2 I think. Which means if the host sucks. We all are screwed. ITs BS how no one but valve I think actually allow anyone to host servers. It works perfectly. This just shows how deep activisions pockets go. I expect this COD to be high as MW2 on the torrent sites. It may be alot better. But its still a step backwards compared to valve games and others of the past.
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#52 JigglyWiggly_
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Everyone allows you to host, except all these new games: All doom based engine games, UT, source, killing floor(well that's subset of UT) So basically yeah...
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#53 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]That hardly seems to be the case from what I've seen on this forum. A lot of people were disappointed with the MoH beta, myself included. But coming from BC2, I suppose it could be a step up :)airshocker

BC2 still has some problems with it. Knifing being my major gripe. MoH doesn't have that problem and it's quite a bit more fast-paced.

Anyway, this all might be a moot point when Reach comes out, so we'll see.

wait hold on a second, when reach comes out? Im just going to rotate through my current online games until battlefield 3 comes out, but to my knowledge no game called reach is coming to pc.

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#54 MyopicCanadian
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If you want a good reason why the community probably SHOULDN'T have control over their own servers, you have only to look at the current W@W community. Bought the game today as a change of pace from MW2, and all the TDM servers are either "tactical" or hardcore or a mix of both.

Now what tactical means, for those unfamiliar with it, is that you have to crouch to move around or if you're standing you need to be looking through the sights. Along with a whole slew of other asinine rulesets that seem designed to give old crappy players their sniper dream fix... no explosives indoors, no pistols (unless you're sniper of course), no shooting through walls.. no firing from the hip...

Can hardly find any normal games anymore, and if this is what Treyarch is trying to combat, tbh I don't mind so much anymore.

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#55 D1zzyCriminal
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BC2 still has some problems with it. Knifing being my major gripe. MoH doesn't have that problem and it's quite a bit more fast-paced.

Anyway, this all might be a moot point when Reach comes out, so we'll see.

airshocker

The knifing is fine, its better than MW2, knifing people from the same range as the Striker.

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#56 hooded1man
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Im glad theres a cap on players, I hated that in CoD4 every other game was 32-64 players. It's way to easy to own the hell out of people when there everywhere, there is no skill with that many players, just people who dont suck vs. people that do.

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wait hold on a second, when reach comes out? Im just going to rotate through my current online games until battlefield 3 comes out, but to my knowledge no game called reach is coming to pc.

TerrorRizzing

I guess you'll just have to wallow in ignorance not knowing what I'm talking about. :P

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#58 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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The knifing is fine, its better than MW2, knifing people from the same range as the Striker.

D1zzyCriminal

Knifing is not fine. It's far too slow. It rarely hits even when you're on top of someone.

Nothing about the knifing in BC2 is good. MoH is a whole 'nother story.

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#59 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="D1zzyCriminal"]

The knifing is fine, its better than MW2, knifing people from the same range as the Striker.

airshocker

Knifing is not fine. It's far too slow. It rarely hits even when you're on top of someone.

Nothing about the knifing in BC2 is good. MoH is a whole 'nother story.

Why would you ever use a knife in any game for that matter? Using the back end of your gun is makes much more sense, and should only kill if you are behind someone. Maybe just push you bash and hurt a little if you're close.
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#60 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="Farkeman"]Dakan45 , dude , it was a beta ! you know what beta is right ? knowing dice , i assure you ,the final version of the game will be fixed and polished , look at these 2 mp trailers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YjHEFygFrg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT3wpTF-V80 crazy... moh doesnt have anything like cod , no perks and other unbalanced **** ... cod is horrible game and i feel srry for every1 who payed 60$+30$ map packs for that , pirated version is even better than retail one , it has dev console, dedicated servers etc. im not buying any game from activision , i dont even know how Blizzard puts up with them... ACTIVISION should disband for gaming sake !Farkeman

I am sorry but i watched those videos and the shooting mechanics look like cod so yeah its like a cod. Also i dont like how they try to make the game so similar to bc2. Seriously the M9 had 12 shots becauese bc2 did too. Its moh damn it, moh is about authenticity. Sorry but ea you lost me on the mp, i want moh mp not cod4 made by Dice

Also i have gotten tired of the "Beta" excuse, and bc2 had a beta but it was 10000000 times better, this is just mediocre, like dice does not give a damn about the game.

I like perks and perks are not unbalanced at all, they give you something but you lose something else that you could have chosen instead of this perk. Its fun, it makes the game non generic, moh seems to be another generic mp fps with guns. I will go for black ops instead.

Also ea is going for 60 bucks too on all their games. As you see activision aint worse than ea or ubisoft. Besides black ops will have mod tools, so you can make your own maps.

Any other rants you wanna make?

lol , dude you should quit pc gaming and buy an xbox , you would fit right in there . just sayin ...

What you are saying is RANDOM CRAP. What i said has nothing to do with consoles or anything. Lets analyze what i said:

The game is too similar to bc2. I dont see anything suggesting that i should switch to console gaming because of that.

That bc2 beta was 1000 times better, so the only thing i say here is that no matter where you play moh, its not as good as bc2, pc or console. Again nothing suggesting the crap statement you just said.

Finally that games are 60 bucks on pc too. 3 companies are doing it from now on and kane and lynch 2 was 60 bucks. Therefore we can assume that thats 4 companies. Again nothing suggesting any console or pc prefence i am saying is that its the same.

So your statement is meant purelly to annoy me and its completly random like you did not bother to read my post.

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#61 dakan45
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"]No offence but Moh multiplayer was awful. It felt sooo bad, so "mediocre" nowhere near as good as bc2. Also its a poor mix between cod4 and bc2. I have scraped away my mind the MP part of moh and i hope for a good sp to redeem them.MyopicCanadian

The vast majority disagree with you.

I loved the MoH MP. I'm probably going to play that instead of BC2 when Reach comes out.

That hardly seems to be the case from what I've seen on this forum. A lot of people were disappointed with the MoH beta, myself included. But coming from BC2, I suppose it could be a step up :)

That was my observation too, that most people thought moh beta was weak in this forum, glad to know that my opinion on that is not yet another hit and miss, because i got the familiar "Everyone dissagrees with you" feeling all over.
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#62 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Why would you ever use a knife in any game for that matter? Using the back end of your gun is makes much more sense, and should only kill if you are behind someone. Maybe just push you bash and hurt a little if you're close.JigglyWiggly_

So I don't have to shoot and give away my position?

Or if I'm too close and can't aim properly?

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#63 KLONE360
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]Everyone allows you to host, except all these new games: All doom based engine games, UT, source, killing floor(well that's subset of UT) So basically yeah...

I meant these days. So yeah.....