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#1 skp_16
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I am.

I'm already satisfied with the previous gen's (PS2/Xbox/GC) graphics. For me it doesn't matter if GTA IV, RE5, MGS4, etc.are still on PS2 (w/c will not happen).

I think they make new consoles for more income not to improve graphics.

Gameplay is the most important. Graphics are just added spice to make the game look good. It's like icing on a cake. Gameplay is the taste. :)

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#2 skp_16
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*satisfied

Sorry for the typo.

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#3 xriceballx
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As much as I enjoy the gameplay, graphical upgrades are always a welcome for me.

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#4 SoulSlayer_
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I am.

I'm already satisfied with the previous gen's (PS2/Xbox/GC) graphics. For me it doesn't matter if GTA IV, RE5, MGS4, etc.are still on PS2 (w/c will not happen).

I think they make new consoles for more income not to improve graphics.

Gameplay is the most important. Graphics are just added spice to make the game look good. It's like icing on a cake. Gameplay is the taste. :)

skp_16
Couldn't have said it better. (except for the typo) I still haven't bought a current-gen console because there are still plenty of games of last-gen I haven't played yet.
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#5 diamond2d
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i Agree, God of War II is a good example.
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#6 SoldatKnight
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I am.

I'm already satisfied with the previous gen's (PS2/Xbox/GC) graphics. For me it doesn't matter if GTA IV, RE5, MGS4, etc.are still on PS2 (w/c will not happen).

I think they make new consoles for more income not to improve graphics.

Gameplay is the most important. Graphics are just added spice to make the game look good. It's like icing on a cake. Gameplay is the taste. :)

skp_16

Yeah I feel the same way. :D
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#7 Ragnarok1051
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I was satisfied with Final Fantasy 12, God of War 2, and Kingdom Hearts 2 graphics.
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#8 hellraiser6669
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I thought alot of last gens graphics were great. Especially on some of the Xbox and PC games, as well as alot of the "later" PS2 titles. Alot of the gamecube games graphics were incredible as well. I remember popping in RE4 for GC and being blown away. So yeah, last gen's graphics were good, although there's always room for improvement.
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#9 amareen18
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i agree
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#10 Xx2SpAwN3xX
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yup i agree
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#11 insinuendo
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Me three. I've actually been playing PSOne games a lot recently. As well as the likes of King of Fighters and 2D Sonic. I do regret going next gen, not because I think it's bad, more to do with the fact that I don't feel that I had to as soon as I did.
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#12 yakk_3
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I am satisfied with the previous gen's graphics, but better graphics are always welcome. And on top of that, the systems are more powerful, so the gameplay improves as well with better AI and such.
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#13 Bigred_Machine
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previous gen graphics are alright, but theres always room for improvement, and the new consoles really do improve in pretty much every aspect
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nice
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#15 hazuki
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It kindof depends on the game last gen though. I'm completely fine with a clean graphical game like metal gear solid 2 or super smash brothers, but what I'm happy to get away from are games like god of war 2 that everything has to be so jaggified. Most games last gen tried pushing graphical details, instead of having anti-aliasing and making the game actually look good. Exactly why I'm enjoying this generation of games because developers are putting at least some anti-aliasing in about all games. I'll upload links/pictures of the differences of what I'm talking about later.

Example of what I'm still completely satisfied with. Looks great doesn't it even today? *Sorry if 56k overload*

Then you got games like this, which may have tons of special effects, the developers sacrifice a clean image for them. *Oh, and this isn't a bad quality pic. Its what the game looks like. Even worse so on a hdtv*

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#16 Mobel
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I also think that gameplay is the most important.And if the graphics are good it is even better.
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#17 Ms_Lockheart
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i like my games to have good graphics, but i really don't need them to be 360/PS3 quality. i got my PS2 around 6 months ago, so there are so many games for it i haven't played. why get a PS3/360/Wii when theres not that many games for them that interest me, and there are so many PS2 games that i havent played yet?

for example, i don't like PS1 graphics. i think Final Fantasy X, XII and Tales of Symphonia all look beautiful. i don't need any graphics better then that. it would be nice, but i really don't care enough to get a next gen system.

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#18 AtelierFan
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It kindof depends on the game last gen though. I'm completely fine with a clean graphical game like metal gear solid 2 or super smash brothers, but what I'm happy to get away from are games like god of war 2 that everything has to be so jaggified. Most games last gen tried pushing graphical details, instead of having anti-aliasing and making the game actually look good. Exactly why I'm enjoying this generation of games because developers are putting at least some anti-aliasing in about all games. I'll upload links/pictures of the differences of what I'm talking about later.

Example of what I'm still completely satisfied with. Looks great doesn't it even today? *Sorry if 56k overload*

Then you got games like this, which may have tons of special effects, the developers sacrifice a clean image for them. *Oh, and this isn't a bad quality pic. Its what the game looks like. Even worse so on a hdtv*

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I see your point, but I think in the case of Resident Evil 4 the art directors wanted the grainy, rough look. Back on topic: While I appreciate good viuals, I stopped caring about graphics upgrades after the Dreamcast.
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#19 Ibacai
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I'll be the black sheep here, because I am not satisfied. I'm never satisfied with a gen if there aren't improvements in all areas.
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#20 Szalaszazka
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I am.

I'm already satisfied with the previous gen's (PS2/Xbox/GC) graphics. For me it doesn't matter if GTA IV, RE5, MGS4, etc.are still on PS2 (w/c will not happen).

I think they make new consoles for more income not to improve graphics.

Gameplay is the most important. Graphics are just added spice to make the game look good. It's like icing on a cake. Gameplay is the taste. :)

skp_16

Yeah , I'm thinkig like you but the next-gen graphics is really good !!!! But graphics from past-gen consoles is good enough to fall into ecstasy :))

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#21 Myviewing
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Yeah, I could pretty much care less about the graphics as well. In fact I think last-last gen graphics are satisfactory. As long as the game's gameplay is fun and keeps me entertained, I deem it a good game. Everything else including sound, voice acting, and content is sort of gimmicky to me but I do think music is somewhat important.
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#22 _AbBaNdOn
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I'll take better graphics any day of the week. Buts thats not the sole purpose for console upgrades. They also allow for bigger games that run better. Imagine if GTA:Sa was twice as big with twice as many cars with twice as many weapons. Thats the kind of thing better game discs allow like blu-ray or hd-dvd. And with more current processors and stuff they can bring all that to you faster and with more response.
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#23 buff2007bills
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I just fear the decrease in PS2 games available ... technology moves fast ... I remember Pong and the Atari 2600 ... I was satisfied then too ... lol
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#24 skp_16
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#25 syrup123
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i am satisfied with previous gen's graphics but when better graphics come out i just gotta love it
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#26 fitzgerw
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I can think of only one game right now, Gears Of War. Play this game on a HD TV and you will be able to piss on all PS2 Graphics all day long.
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#27 iboo01
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hehe well yea the current gen has some great games but nex gen is to good to just pass up
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#28 092093
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As much as I enjoy the gameplay, graphical upgrades are always a welcome for me.

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SAme here, well as long as I have enough money (which I don't right now). lol
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#29 BelmontMaster
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I am very satisfied with the previous gen's graphics. Probably good for another 2 years or more.
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#30 dr_jashugan
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A good story with a good game-play are the soul of a good game.
I'm worried that Next-Gen games are prioritizing graphics instead of game-play.

There is also the matter of the rising of development cost.
These aspects might produce fewer and/or shorter games for the Next-Gen consoles.

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#31 092093
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A good story with a good game-play are the soul of a good game.
I'm worried that Next-Gen games are prioritizing graphics instead of game-play.

There is also the matter of the rising of development cost.
These aspects might produce fewer and/or shorter games for the Next-Gen consoles.

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Yeah, and people have probably said that since the release of N64 and PS.
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#32 Game_boy_5
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i am perfectly happy with the last gen graphics
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#33 KAKAZI_jp
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I'm completely satisfied with last-gen (and below) graphics. Heck, I still bust out the old PS1 every two weeks or so.
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#34 Platyphyllum
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Yeah, the PS3 hasn't impressed me much with its pretty graphics withgames like Genji: Dawn of the Samurai (which looks great but doesn't really have much depth in the gameplay).

I am indeed satisfied with last-gen graphics with games like Final Fantasy XII and GrimGrimoire (some of the best 2D graphics I've seen) and if the game's quality must stoop down as low as say, Mobile SuitGundam: Crossfire in order to end up looking good, I would much rather play with the PS2. A graphical upgrade is always nice, but I'm really quite satisfied with the way the PS2 looks already.

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#35 soulsdeparting
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graphics? yes. physics and AI? it can always improve
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#36 changeofpace04
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unless I can actually see my plane really get blownout of the sky consumed in flames and my guystruggling to eject "would be great addon ace combat"after failing to break off from an enemytailing me,then I will be satisfied with the current gen console's depth and graphics.

simply put, more depth in the games. other than just making it look real, it has to feel real, graphics alone dont make the game realistic

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#37 RainandSunshine
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IT's all about the gameplay. Graphics only play partialy into. Graphics on the ps2 are more than sufficent for great gaming.
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#38 vashkey
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I was satisfied with it. But.... Thats no excuse for next gen games to look like it. I liked it on my last gen consoles and games. Not my next gen. Im looking at you Wii.... Stop being a port machine....
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#39 catrocr
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Well, the problem is that Xbox 360 keeps breaking, and PS3 doesn't support VGA graphics like Xbox 360 does--and I would like to utilize my new LCD monitor that I just bought for my PC (but it's VGA only so Xbox 360 is only choice for that route). And if I play games in my living room, I want to watch TV and play video games on my same TV, but then I have to buy a $2000 HDTV and HDTV programming--which I am NOT going to do.

So for me, the "next gen" consoles have too many expensive hurdles to jump before you can even enjoy them, not to mention compatibility issues all across the board.

So I COULD just buy a PS3 and use it on my regular TV, but I don't want to do that until Gran Turismo 5 AND Tourist Trophy 2 comes out.

Plus, like I said before I JUST NOW finished stocking my PS2 library of games, and I don't even have time to play the games I have!

So it may be another year or even two before I even consider getting a PS3.

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#40 gamerjerome
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I'm fine with myPS2 graphics. There was such a big leap between its gen and the previous. With the next gen there isn't as much. They showed way to many CGI demos thinking they were going to duplicate that and it really hasn't happened. The only thing true next gen when in comes to blatant graphics it Crysis for PC. Then againthe PS3 and X360 don't cost 2 grand so i don't expect them to do those kind of graphics. The problem was making us think that these next gen systems could. Anyway for now I'm fine with my 60+ games for PS2. I'll be putting my moneywere my mouth is and I'll build a better PC to play the next gen graphics.
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#41 Shiggums
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I'm completely satisfied with last-gen (and below) graphics. Heck, I still bust out the old PS1 every two weeks or so.KAKAZI_jp

I definitely agree. But then again, when I play something PS1, it's for the gameplay, could care less about graphics.

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#42 Koushin
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I frankly still am not satisfied. While I agree with most people that gameplay makes the game worth it or not. The graphics more than certainly lend a hand in building the overall experience. If the ideas of gameplay are well executed but due to graphical limitations aren't fully realized than we can see why graphics play an important role gameplay itself.

Also other technical aspects (not just graphics) make a game such as, sound for example. Granted this writer's opinion is considering most common generes such as the First Person Shooter, Action, Adventure, and Role Playing Game titles. Believe it or not, but many people wouldn't enjoy certain games if it were not for the techncial aspects. Lets look at Resident Evil 4 if it wasn't for the effective use of sound effects when the village inhabitents are chanting and yelling to get you in an encampment, or the sound of a crowbar smashing a wooden box in one of the games random apartments in Half Life 2. or even the powerful sound of "clings" and "clangs" of swords colliding with metal shields in the Arenas of Oblivion.

Though while reading through a few commentors of this topic I am still hard pressed to believe most people (though they are giving their opinions openly) that they would treat such games with the same respect if it weren't for both the gameplay and technical acheivements of a game title.

That being said I still think we got a way to go. While I thoroughly enjoyed writing this post that maybe only four or five people may ever read, I hope that those readers also believe that until games start having graphics like that of real life and excellent gameplay to boot, the industry still has a way to go still. In short, "Wake me up, when a game looks like the action drama 24."
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#43 catrocr
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I frankly still am not satisfied. While I agree with most people that gameplay makes the game worth it or not. The graphics more than certainly lend a hand in building the overall experience. If the ideas of gameplay are well executed but due to graphical limitations aren't fully realized than we can see why graphics play an important role gameplay itself.

Also other technical aspects (not just graphics) make a game such as, sound for example. Granted this writer's opinion is considering most common generes such as the First Person Shooter, Action, Adventure, and Role Playing Game titles. Believe it or not, but many people wouldn't enjoy certain games if it were not for the techncial aspects. Lets look at Resident Evil 4 if it wasn't for the effective use of sound effects when the village inhabitents are chanting and yelling to get you in an encampment, or the sound of a crowbar smashing a wooden box in one of the games random apartments in Half Life 2. or even the powerful sound of "clings" and "clangs" of swords colliding with metal shields in the Arenas of Oblivion.

Though while reading through a few commentors of this topic I am still hard pressed to believe most people (though they are giving their opinions openly) that they would treat such games with the same respect if it weren't for both the gameplay and technical acheivements of a game title.

That being said I still think we got a way to go. While I thoroughly enjoyed writing this post that maybe only four or five people may ever read, I hope that those readers also believe that until games start having graphics like that of real life and excellent gameplay to boot, the industry still has a way to go still. In short, "Wake me up, when a game looks like the action drama 24."Koushin

I'm not even wanting that much. A lot of PC games come off as looking "cartoonish" because, sure, they have clean crisp graphics but they can't use shading and lighting like even the PS2 can.

Developers of PC games rely way too much on extreme system requirements, which forces the cost on to the consumer. Developers for consoles spend more time optimizing the code so that people don't have to spend $2000+ on a gaming PC.

I'm sick of PC games. There hasn't been a decent Formula 1 game (or any decent racing game for that matter) since 2001. The only thing PCs can do well anymore is real-rime strategy and MMO RPGs, both of which I dislike greatly. Sure, Elder Scrolls Oblivion is great, but I am NOT going to spend $1000 to update my PC just to play that one good game.

The only PC game I play now (and it's the most fun) is Medal of Honor online team matches.

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#44 super_police
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Go figure, there are still some SNES games that I look at and think "wow that looks beautiful" Much of my taste recently has gravitated more towards 2d and sprite based graphics, and the fluidity of the animation of the sprites.

Which is the opposite of the majority of gaming culture which is moving towards unloading large environments where everything renders as you move and tons of enemies onscreen at once. While I appreciate that when it is done well, and I do see that they are improving in that direction, its just not the direction that I would really wish to grow.

As to that one persons assertation that sound design plays an increasingly huge role though, I certainly agree with that, I am a much more auditorily than visual based person although at some points people are taking that too far in bad directions as well, for instance it takes a long time to listen to someone regurgitate a paragraph of dialogue in thier screechy character voice, when I can read a written dialogue box much quicker. Also a lot of games will use sound whenever you start attacking or are seen by an enemy, and that kind of ruins some of the surprise of it. Even if you dont see the enemy you are always knowing you stumbled across one because of the loud stupid tragic sound effect popped up.

The only genres that really seem to be improved by the HD effect are FPS, sports and racing titles, and to follow suit that is just about the only genres that have been coming out in HD. Which is unfortunate because while those are ok (and sometimes great) genres, there is a lot more genres that seem to be getting the brush off these days.

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#45 skp_16
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I frankly still am not satisfied. While I agree with most people that gameplay makes the game worth it or not. The graphics more than certainly lend a hand in building the overall experience. If the ideas of gameplay are well executed but due to graphical limitations aren't fully realized than we can see why graphics play an important role gameplay itself.

Also other technical aspects (not just graphics) make a game such as, sound for example. Granted this writer's opinion is considering most common generes such as the First Person Shooter, Action, Adventure, and Role Playing Game titles. Believe it or not, but many people wouldn't enjoy certain games if it were not for the techncial aspects. Lets look at Resident Evil 4 if it wasn't for the effective use of sound effects when the village inhabitents are chanting and yelling to get you in an encampment, or the sound of a crowbar smashing a wooden box in one of the games random apartments in Half Life 2. or even the powerful sound of "clings" and "clangs" of swords colliding with metal shields in the Arenas of Oblivion.

Though while reading through a few commentors of this topic I am still hard pressed to believe most people (though they are giving their opinions openly) that they would treat such games with the same respect if it weren't for both the gameplay and technical acheivements of a game title.

That being said I still think we got a way to go. While I thoroughly enjoyed writing this post that maybe only four or five people may ever read, I hope that those readers also believe that until games start having graphics like that of real life and excellent gameplay to boot, the industry still has a way to go still. In short, "Wake me up, when a game looks like the action drama 24."Koushin

Just watch a TV series or a movie if you want graphics like real life. Hehe!

IMO..too realistic graphics is not good. Game should look like a game, not real. That's why the best graphics for me are RE 4, MGS 3, Bully, and Hitman. I just bought Hitman Trilogy a few weeks ago. I'm currently playing Silent Assassin (which wasreleased last Oct 2002) and I liked the graphics.

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#46 basilbasil
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I love this gen's graphics. On some games e.g GoW2, there's hardly a polygon out of place.
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#47 Dogswithguns
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...... Let me just say, I love PS2's games and still playing on my PS3, but I wont wanna go back to Atari type of games and graphics.
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#48 skp_16
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#49 Ms_Lockheart
Member since 2005 • 147 Posts
yeah, i am. i think Final Fantasy X is a beautiful game even though its running on 6 years old now. i'm probably satisfied mainly because i don't have any current gen systems so i don't really have anything to compare my PS2 games to. its good though because i can get a game thats like 4 years old and not be bothered at all by the dated graphics. however, i do get a little bothered by PS1 graphics.
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#50 rohver
Member since 2005 • 11848 Posts
Very satisfied. When I look at psone games, my satisfaction reaches new levels ^_^