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#51 munsoned
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[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="bigiter"]Hey guys, i'm buying an Sharp Aquos HDTV tomorrow for my ps3 and i wanted to know what configuration would be the best for HD gaming 720p or 1080i. The cables i'm using are the sony playstation 3 component cables so they should get the job done. Just wanted to know what settings i should be applying. Thanksryank285

buy the sony hdmi wires and let the ps3 choose whats best for ur tv.

BAD advice... NEVER buy name brand HDMI wires. they are a total rip off. you can buy a 7 ft cable for 10 bucks including shipping at newegg.com. all HDMI cables have same quality because it is a digital signal.

but he said he is buying the sony componet cable so why not spend 10 bucks extra for a much better hdmi wire.

i got a sony hdmi wire and a sony wireless ps3 controller both in a box unopened for 30 bucks. and i had to do was plug it in. and it auto set my system to my hdtvs max settings. i never had any of these problems i read about on these forums about their video picture ect ect . if u go shopping for a cheap brand hdmi wire u might get burned...

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#52 munsoned
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Shawty1984 did you see what Necromican just posted? Read this part of the article through and through

The truth about 1080p
In the last couple of years, there has been a big influx of HDTVs with 1080p native resolution, which typically cost a good deal more than their lower-resolution counterparts. But as we've been saying all along, once you get to high-def, the difference between resolutions becomes much more difficult to appreciate. We've done side-by-side tests between two 46-inch LCD HDTVs, one with 1366x768 resolution and the other with 1080p resolution, using the same 1080i source material, and it was extremely difficult for us to see any difference. It becomes even more difficult at smaller screen **** or farther seating distances--say, more than 1.5 times the diagonal measurement of the screen. We've reviewed a 37-inch 1080p LCD, for example, where it was impossible to see the separation between horizontal lines at farther than 45 inches away.

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lol@ useing the same 1080i sourse material. no wonder they couldnt tell a diffrence. there is none... they shoulda used a blue ray movie or a ps3 game that does both 1080i and 1080 p. they woulda seen a diffrence not as big as 720 p /1080i over 480i but they woulda seen one.
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#53 Necromican
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They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.
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#54 Necromican
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We're not telling you to ignore 1080p HDTVs. They technically do deliver more detail, which can enhance the viewing experience for more eagle-eyed viewers. Also, many manufacturers build other picture-quality benefits, such as better contrast and/or color, into their 1080p HDTVs simply because those sets are the high-end models. And given the continuing march of technology, we expect more and more 1080p models to become available at lower and lower prices. Today, however, the premium for 1080p is still pretty steep, and unless you're getting a very large set, say 50 inches or more, we don't recommend basing a buying decision on whether or not the television has 1080p native resolution.

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They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.Necromican

Right. This was the point that I was trying to make to Shawty1984. He is entilted to his own opinion and that's cool. He feels as if it doesn't matter the size of the tv he says it's the viewing distance. If you have 1080p on a 32 inch and 1080i on another 32 inch....you can't really see a difference with the human eye. But if it was a 50 inch then yes of course you can see it.

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#56 ryank285
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[QUOTE="ryank285"]

[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="bigiter"]Hey guys, i'm buying an Sharp Aquos HDTV tomorrow for my ps3 and i wanted to know what configuration would be the best for HD gaming 720p or 1080i. The cables i'm using are the sony playstation 3 component cables so they should get the job done. Just wanted to know what settings i should be applying. Thanksmunsoned

buy the sony hdmi wires and let the ps3 choose whats best for ur tv.

BAD advice... NEVER buy name brand HDMI wires. they are a total rip off. you can buy a 7 ft cable for 10 bucks including shipping at newegg.com. all HDMI cables have same quality because it is a digital signal.

but he said he is buying the sony componet cable so why not spend 10 bucks extra for a much better hdmi wire.

i got a sony hdmi wire and a sony wireless ps3 controller both in a box unopened for 30 bucks. and i had to do was plug it in. and it auto set my system to my hdtvs max settings. i never had any of these problems i read about on these forums about their video picture ect ect . if u go shopping for a cheap brand hdmi wire u might get burned...

all you have to do is be smart with what you buy... if you see a product that has over 150 5 star reviews, most likely its a quality product which is what the HDMI cable i am talking about got.

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#57 Necromican
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And there is a difference. Otherwise it would have been silly to make the resolution. Eh?..

And when they speak. they speek of resolution and picture quality, Blu Ray movie og PS3 game. Its the same difference.. 1080p is a little shaper and alittle more detailed.. But you cannot see that in smaller Tv-Sets.

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#58 Necromican
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Exactly kenken2g
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#59 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

kenken2g

Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen ****alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen ****AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

It's no use commenting anymore. Even you have said that there are plently of people that agree that viewing smaller tvs makes it hard to tell the difference between 1080i/p.....sources have been pasted in this thread. So I think that says enough. You have an opinion and you are entitled to it. However, you can't say that everyone else is wrong and the sources are too.....and that you are right and everyone else's thoughts and information is nonsense.



Im sorry, but where you are getting your source from is wrong or either your reading it wrong. There is no difference between 1080p on a 37" set compared to a 50" set. It all depends on how close or far away yopu sit. You do know that 1080p will be no different to 720p if you sit far away enough from the TV. What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. Go to the AV forums and ask for yourself.
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#60 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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[QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

shawty1984

Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen ****alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen ****AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

It's no use commenting anymore. Even you have said that there are plently of people that agree that viewing smaller tvs makes it hard to tell the difference between 1080i/p.....sources have been pasted in this thread. So I think that says enough. You have an opinion and you are entitled to it. However, you can't say that everyone else is wrong and the sources are too.....and that you are right and everyone else's thoughts and information is nonsense.



Im sorry, but where you are getting your source from is wrong or either your reading it wrong. There is no difference between 1080p on a 37" set compared to a 50" set. It all depends on how close or far away yopu sit. You do know that 1080p will be no different to 720p if you sit far away enough from the TV. What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. Go to the AV forums and ask for yourself.

>>>>Shawty1984.....read this http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt

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#61 shawty1984
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Lot of comments :D. Hope you have your answer by now though. But why are some of you commenting on personal thoughts and not by fact?..

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt

Just read that and the answers speeks clearly.

Necromican


The only reason they seen no differnce is because they used a 1080i source and not a 1080p one. Use a 1080p source and there you go, you have your difference. Its like comparing a Ford Escort to a Ferrari Enzo and saying they have both the same speed as the legal limit is 70MPH ( UK ).
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#62 shawty1984
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Shawty1984 did you see what Necromican just posted? Read this part of the article through and through

The truth about 1080p
In the last couple of years, there has been a big influx of HDTVs with 1080p native resolution, which typically cost a good deal more than their lower-resolution counterparts. But as we've been saying all along, once you get to high-def, the difference between resolutions becomes much more difficult to appreciate. We've done side-by-side tests between two 46-inch LCD HDTVs, one with 1366x768 resolution and the other with 1080p resolution, using the same 1080i source material, and it was extremely difficult for us to see any difference. It becomes even more difficult at smaller screen **** or farther seating distances--say, more than 1.5 times the diagonal measurement of the screen. We've reviewed a 37-inch 1080p LCD, for example, where it was impossible to see the separation between horizontal lines at farther than 45 inches away.

kenken2g


As I posted above, the only reason they seen no difference was because they where not using a 1080p source and only a 1080i. You cant get the best out of the Tv if you dontuse the TV to the best it can do.
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#63 shawty1984
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They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.Necromican


Thats simply wrong. Its not harder to see on smaller TV's, you just have to sit closer to smaller TV's. This is good for small bedrooms and the like where I will be getting a 37" 1080p TV.
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#65 shawty1984
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And there is a difference. Otherwise it would have been silly to make the resolution. Eh?..

And when they speak. they speek of resolution and picture quality, Blu Ray movie og PS3 game. Its the same difference.. 1080p is a little shaper and alittle more detailed.. But you cannot see that in smaller Tv-Sets.

Necromican


Yes you can see the difference, you just have to sit closer.
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#66 TheFlush
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Oh god, here we go again.. Most HD-ready tv's have a screen that has a native resolution of 1366x768 pixels. (this is about the same as 720p ~1280 x 720~) Full HD tv's have a screen that has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels. (1080p) So if you have a HD-ready tv (it probably says so in a logo printed on the tv) it means that it can natively show 720p images. Most of the HD-ready tv's can also handle 1080i signal, BUT this doesn't mean it can really display it properly, it can only handle the signal. Of course you can't see any difference between 720p and 1080i because the tv only has a resolution of 1366x768 max! So a 1080i signal gets downscaled so it can fit in your tv's native resolution, it cannot show 1920x1080 pixels because the tv screen itself doesn't have that many pixels. So the easy answer is, if you have a HD-ready display, go for 720p. Since 1080i will also look like 720 but it is worse because it is interlaced. And about HDMI cables, get the cheapest. HDMI is a DIGITAL signal, it either works or it doesn't work. There's nothing in between.
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#67 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Necromican"]They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.kenken2g

Right. This was the point that I was trying to make to Shawty1984. He is entilted to his own opinion and that's cool. He feels as if it doesn't matter the size of the tv he says it's the viewing distance. If you have 1080p on a 32 inch and 1080i on another 32 inch....you can't really see a difference with the human eye. But if it was a 50 inch then yes of course you can see it.



Yes you can see the difference. You just have to sit closer. I will repeat, 1080p at 37" is no different to 1080p at 60" apart from the viewing differences. If you sit 10 ft away from both of course they wont look the same with the 60" being better. The smaller the TV the closer you have to sit to notice 1080p.
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#68 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

kenken2g

Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen ****alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen ****AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

It's no use commenting anymore. Even you have said that there are plently of people that agree that viewing smaller tvs makes it hard to tell the difference between 1080i/p.....sources have been pasted in this thread. So I think that says enough. You have an opinion and you are entitled to it. However, you can't say that everyone else is wrong and the sources are too.....and that you are right and everyone else's thoughts and information is nonsense.



Im sorry, but where you are getting your source from is wrong or either your reading it wrong. There is no difference between 1080p on a 37" set compared to a 50" set. It all depends on how close or far away yopu sit. You do know that 1080p will be no different to 720p if you sit far away enough from the TV. What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. Go to the AV forums and ask for yourself.

>>>>Shawty1984.....read this http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt



I already have. Ive already pointed out why they seen no difference in the two TV's as they are using a 1080i source and not a 1080p one. Also I have stated thay they are wrong about smaller 1080P TV's. Dont believe me, go to various shops and test it out yourself. The smaller the TV like 37" 1080p, the closer you have to sit to be able to take advantage of 1080p.
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#69 coreyross
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the above is true, i looked into it. the only way you can see the diffrence between 720p/1080i and 1080p on the average tv size of 32-42" is if you are 4-5 feet away.
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#70 scipio_9823
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My 2 cents..

I have a 40" 1080p TV and I can't tell the difference between 720p & 1080i (via xBox 360) at all and I am a total graphics whore.

On the other hand, I do play PC games on the TV often, and I can tell you there is a HUGE difference between 720p and native 1080p support. Just last night, I played Stranglehold in 720p, which looks basically identical to the xbox version of the game, and then in 1080p and the difference is very obvious.

THe problem is that my PC can't always output acceptableframerates at 1080p, so I have to downgrade ot 720p.

DOes the PS3 have native 1080p support or is it just upscaled?The xbox doesn't have native support for 1080p for any games I have played.

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#71 Please_ThankYou
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Maybe i'm 'trolling' again according to GS mods, but whatever.

Answer to your question is 720p through HDMI would be the best sollution in your case.

What size of a tv are you getting anyways?

Madyson

What is trolling?

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#72 Please_ThankYou
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As I understand it, the PS3 is supposed to output a native 1080p resolution.
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#73 deactivated-5dc1155346926
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My 2 cents..

I have a 40" 1080p TV and I can't tell the difference between 720p & 1080i (via xBox 360) at all and I am a total graphics whore.

On the other hand, I do play PC games on the TV often, and I can tell you there is a HUGE difference between 720p and native 1080p support. Just last night, I played Stranglehold in 720p, which looks basically identical to the xbox version of the game, and then in 1080p and the difference is very obvious.

THe problem is that my PC can't always output acceptableframerates at 1080p, so I have to downgrade ot 720p.

DOes the PS3 have native 1080p support or is it just upscaled?The xbox doesn't have native support for 1080p for any games I have played.

scipio_9823

Yeah on my 32 inch Samsung I can't tell the difference between 720p/1080i. However on NG Sigma....1080i looks better than 720p and there isn't screen flickering or motion blur

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#74 -Sniper99-
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get 1080p:D
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#75 -Sniper99-
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the above is true, i looked into it. the only way you can see the diffrence between 720p/1080i and 1080p on the average tv size of 32-42" is if you are 4-5 feet away. coreyross
But 1080p is like looking at 1080i, but as smooth as 720p
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#76 gamer18033
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correct, that's what i meant
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#77 JonesWs
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also agree
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#78 Chaos_Bladez
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720P .mikemd4eva
Yes, you would think 1080i would be better but 720p seems a bit sharper.
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#79 Dilrod
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Look at the bigger things the 720p and 1080p tv have to offer. Get the one with the higher contrast ration, more hdmi inputs and other specs. I looked and found the 42" Sharp Aquas 1080p to be the best buy for my money on a tv that size. 8.8 rating from Cnet.
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#80 captainhowdy23
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[QUOTE="Necromican"]

Lot of comments :D. Hope you have your answer by now though. But why are some of you commenting on personal thoughts and not by fact?..

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt

Just read that and the answers speeks clearly.

kenken2g

Thanks so much for posting this. You have cleared up a lot of egos lol on this site. Thank you for this information man this really helps me, I have a301080i HDTV so I'm pretty happy this.

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#81 kelkimble2k4
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720P!!!
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#82 khalid_b
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720p...