2.53 firmware update may be causeing Blu Ray failers !!!

You might want to read this thread .

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3updates&thread.id=37861&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

BTW thats not the only thread about that issue ,there are tons of people perclaiming the same thing.If you look around you'll see what i mean.

Its kinda scarey. i love my system to much to loose it over an update.

Hey guys pls dont hold me to any of this. I found this straight off the sony website and thought that the Comunity should be aware of it.

So far mines been fine..Knock on wood...

if any of you are haveing problems i thought maybe i should post this just incase its related. It may help you if it is.

You might want to read this thread .

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3updates&thread.id=37861&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

BTW thats not the only thread about that issue ,there are tons of people perclaiming the same thing.If you look around you'll see what i mean.

Its kinda scarey. i love my system to much to loose it over an update.

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

My PS3 is updated as much as possible and I have been playing Blu-Ray's and games with no problems. In fact, I watched The Dark Knight last night on blu-ray. Man, it's hard to believe how much clearer blu-ray's are than dvd's.orbis_mortis

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

acsguitar

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

acsguitar

uhhhhh.....an external device (mouse) is very different from a firmware update. There is no way a mouse could corrupt a system, whereas a firmware update could easily cause major config issues with the gpu and disk drive...

[QUOTE="acsguitar"]

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

chex81

uhhhhh.....an external device (mouse) is very different from a firmware update. There is no way a mouse could corrupt a system, whereas a firmware update could easily cause major config issues with the gpu and disk drive...

Yea its possible. But I'm guessing that its just someone who is relating two things. I'm sure Sony would've tested there firmware for creating hardware failure

[QUOTE="chex81"][QUOTE="acsguitar"]

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

acsguitar

uhhhhh.....an external device (mouse) is very different from a firmware update. There is no way a mouse could corrupt a system, whereas a firmware update could easily cause major config issues with the gpu and disk drive...

Yea its possible. But I'm guessing that its just someone who is relating two things. I'm sure Sony would've tested there firmware for creating hardware failure

[QUOTE="chex81"][QUOTE="acsguitar"]

This is what I call:

Unassociated association syndrome. Working in IT support I see it all the time.

I update someones machine by giving them a new mouse or something then their Monitor dies. So they related the two. Obviously a mouse isn't going to wreck the monitor. However, the no it all user makes the association.

Sounds like this is the case

acsguitar

uhhhhh.....an external device (mouse) is very different from a firmware update. There is no way a mouse could corrupt a system, whereas a firmware update could easily cause major config issues with the gpu and disk drive...

Yea its possible. But I'm guessing that its just someone who is relating two things. I'm sure Sony would've tested there firmware for creating hardware failure

no doubt Sony tests FW...and usually these sort of bugs only represent themselves to a hand full of customers, for whatever reason (usually their configuration differs from the typical PS3 setup. This sort of situation is where Opensource is a sort of disadvantage...either way, im sure Sony test these FW's as much as possible, and they pass all specified criteria. I could understand, as I'm an engineer and approve/test FW's for residental Cable modems customers...and when something goes wrong with the select few, there's generally a finger pointing at the reason that was either accidentally overlooked (wasn't part of criteria for testing) or the machine was manually tampered with.

mine died a year ago from blu ray failures...CosmoKing7717

[QUOTE="CosmoKing7717"]mine died a year ago from blu ray failures...Vanine_28

I think my first PS3's Blu-Ray drive failed soon after the 2.53 update. It wasn't straight after though, it was a couple of weeks later. Sony should be more careful with these damn updates and maybe test them first. Or at least not have so ****ing many of them.Floppy_Jim

The post are just rolling in with people proclaiming 2.53 caused there system to stop reading there disk. its getting worse every minute. I think you guys/gals are goona see alot more people popping up then you thought .

But dont take my word for it. go take a look on Sonys website.

here's a link .

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board?board.id=ps3updates

This is a big problem.!!

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I think my first PS3's Blu-Ray drive failed soon after the 2.53 update. It wasn't straight after though, it was a couple of weeks later. Sony should be more careful with these damn updates and maybe test them first. Or at least not have so ****ing many of them.scottiescott238

Okay... I have read many of these posts, researching my own BD drive failure. Mine occurred just a few weeks after the 2.53 update as well, but it was not due to the firmware. Drive fail. Since PS3 is the BD player of choice for many, not just gamers, these cases come up.

I called SCEA, and they told me to just send it in. They will not, under any circumstance (unless they are not following the company's rules) tell anyone what the issue is. They don't know. They have not looked at the machine, so they cannot definitively tell anyone what the issue is. They also will not guarantee sending you your same unit back, so if you want to keep the backwards compatability, don't send it in.

If you are uncomfortable with solving the problem youself, find a local computer store that does repairs and see if they will fix it. Otherwise, order a new laser/deck and install it yourself. You will save over $80 in service fees and shipping. It's out of warrantee anyway, so you won't be hurting anything. Just make sure you put everything back together the way it came apart. There are videos on YouTube showing you how to do it.

Trust me, though. It is not the firmware. The drive simply quit at the same time that you downloaded the update. It's just a coincidence that everybody is turning into something bigger.

my blu-ray player died today out of nowhere......! Only 15 months after purchase :evil:stangen

Its common now. Thats terrable that it broke. People that got theres on launch are feeling it the worst cause they paid alot more for theres and even if they send it into sony theres no garuantie there going to send you back your backwards 4 usb multy card reading unit. You could end up with the 80 gig ones.

I dun think it's happening to majority of the systems...also, the info he provided was so vague. Is it only for that one game he couldn't play? or was it for every single disc he inserts into the PS3?

Also...seems like a software issue...format the hdd /get a new hdd and try again. Not like the software scratched the blu-ray lens...that guy needs to consider some calm, logical alternatives and explainations before getting angry.

I dun think it's happening to majority of the systems...also, the info he provided was so vague. Is it only for that one game he couldn't play? or was it for every single disc he inserts into the PS3?

Also...seems like a software issue...format the hdd /get a new hdd and try again. Not like the software scratched the blu-ray lens...that guy needs to consider some calm, logical alternatives and explainations before getting angry.

:lol: This made me laugh .. a firmware update can't cause the actual, physical, blu-ray player to die .. :lol: Do some people actually believe this? Because if you do you're completely gullable ..

I can see the Firmware update to cause maybe something in the HDD to crash, or something like that but even that doesn't happen all the time ..

I have updated all firmwares with zero problems afterwards .. and I have a 60GB launch PS3 ..

:lol: This made me laugh .. a firmware update can't cause the actual, physical, blu-ray player to die .. :lol: Do some people actually believe this? Because if you do you're completely gullable ..

I can see the Firmware update to cause maybe something in the HDD to crash, or something like that but even that doesn't happen all the time ..

I have updated all firmwares with zero problems afterwards .. and I have a 60GB launch PS3 ..

CanadianCR

This is a response i found on the link that i provided regarding firmwares and how they can damage your systems.

"Finally someone who knows what they're talking about. I hate it when people say, "firmware's cant brick ur ps3." Actually, aside from physical damage, firmware is the onlything that can brick an electronic device. Like you said, it controls how much voltage is applied to each component, the temperatures at which fans are engaged, and so many other things. How could that not affect the hardware? Do people think there is some magical layer between firmware and hardware that allows firmware to work with hardware but never harm it?!?"

Most people that have a little knowledge about what a firmware does to there hardware has some degree of knowledge to what amount of damage a corrupt one can do.At the very least understand its ability to control parts of your hardware that can permanently break your system.

This to me is basic stuff but i cant expect everyone to know about it. Not all of us are into computers right. On the side i build gaming rigs, so i know a thing or two about firmwares lol. but i can really see why people would think that it cant effect you system ,and its not there fault they just don't understand the principles that's all.

Mine works fine :|Puscifer_No1

Everytime I see a firmware issue in a forum, it is from people who are simply assuming that it is the firmware. Every firmware update from Sony has been blamed for malfunctioning PS3's; however, most of the symptons in the forums do not point to a firmware problem. They only point to a failed bluray drive failure, usually due to the lense being faulty. If your system operates perfectly fine, with the exception of being able to read discs, then it is ONLY the bluray drive, not the firmware. The firmware affects much more than the drive.

By the way, never believe anyone who says that "SCEA told [him/her] that it is a firmware problem". SCEA cannot make that statement over the phone. They cannot tell you or anyone else what the problem with your/anyone else's PS3 until they have actually examined the console.

Its kinda scarey. i love my system to much to loose it over an update.

Vanine_28

Actually, not so scary. I don't quite understand the problem, so correct me if I am wrong, but if the problem is an update that has caused some software problem, then a subsequent update should fix the problem. The only case this won't work is if the update caused physical (not software) damage to the system.

It might mean you can't play until the next release comes out, but assuming Sony knows about it, it isn't big enough to have your system returned to Sony for almost $200.

The other PS3 problem with the yellow/red flashing lights is a physical problem...hard ware failure (I think). Nothing you can do about that with updates...

[QUOTE="orbis_mortis"]My PS3 is updated as much as possible and I have been playing Blu-Ray's and games with no problems. In fact, I watched The Dark Knight last night on blu-ray. Man, it's hard to believe how much clearer blu-ray's are than dvd's.Vanine_28