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[QUOTE="tyler2010"]Here is a link to some Killzone art:oG-Legend
That art looks good, and technically this is Killzone 3 because Liberation is number 2 and at the bottom of the art it says KZ3 but who cares lol just felt like ranting.
Yea Guerilla going to call it KillZone 3 because it make sense calling it KILLZONE 3for the PLAYSTATION3
I'm going to treat this as a general discussion.
Anyone else here think that Killzone 3 (what the art says it's called)will have character customization? I would like to be able to make my guy look just a bit different from everyone elses.
-oG-ShAdY
Yes, I believe it will.
Liberation did, to a degree.
However, I wouldn't want color changes in Killzone PS3, just aesthetical changes, like what Resistance did (let you unlock trench coats, goggle amplifiers, damage patterns, etc. for the Helghast)
It would be really nice if they put your clan logo and rank on your character model like military shoulder emblems.
[QUOTE="-oG-ShAdY"]I'm going to treat this as a general discussion.
Anyone else here think that Killzone 3 (what the art says it's called)will have character customization? I would like to be able to make my guy look just a bit different from everyone elses.
Xanog1
Yes, I believe it will.
Liberation did, to a degree.
However, I wouldn't want color changes in Killzone PS3, just aesthetical changes, like what Resistance did (let you unlock trench coats, goggle amplifiers, damage patterns, etc. for the Helghast)
It would be really nice if they put your clan logo and rank on your character model like military shoulder emblems.
Yes, I think that being able to put your clan info on your shoulder patch and being able to somehow also display your rank would be great. That way you would know if you were about the get ****ed up hard!
...why does this make me feel all warm inside?. and i thought it was gonna be mgs4soulsdeparting
What exactly is making you feel warm inside? If you don't mind me asking. The fact that Killzone 3 is going to be the best shooter the PS3 will have for a very long time. I'm hoping that it dominates the top so bad that everyone that ever owns a PS3 will play it. Well... except anyone that hates FPS to begin with.
Man i love the hellgast look. I just hope that all the humans arent bald like the 1st killzone.finalfantasy94
you mean the soldiers having their hair cut?...just like in the regular marines :P sorry just sounded weird..
but at least in the little trailer we have the soldier has hair so it probably will have very hairy soldierds just the way you like them ;)
[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]Man i love the hellgast look. I just hope that all the humans arent bald like the 1st killzone.The_Tombo
you mean the soldiers having their hair cut?...just like in the regular marines :P sorry just sounded weird..
but at least in the little trailer we have the soldier has hair so it probably will have very hairy soldierds just the way you like them ;)
lol.
i dont get everyone hypes killzone 2? It doesnt matter how good it looks or how good that trailer looked. Killzone 1 was not good at all *IMO* and the majority feels that way. justinblair2
Actually, the game was a "good" game. Not great, not spectactular, not a classic, but good. If you look at the scores it got, most rankings will say good but needs work. This is where two years and 40 million come into effect. If you still think the game is destined to be bad no matter how good it looks then please say what was so bad about the game. Did you kill enemies with flowers? I'm willing to bet that almost of all you people that say stuff like this have never even played Killzone.
[QUOTE="justinblair2"]i dont get everyone hypes killzone 2? It doesnt matter how good it looks or how good that trailer looked. Killzone 1 was not good at all *IMO* and the majority feels that way. CyanX73
Actually, the game was a "good" game. Not great, not spectactular, not a classic, but good. If you look at the scores it got, most rankings will say good but needs work. This is where two years and 40 million come into effect. If you still think the game is destined to be bad no matter how good it looks then please say what was so bad about the game. Did you kill enemies with flowers? I'm willing to bet that almost of all you people that say stuff like this have never even played Killzone.
Yeah i agree!!!
[QUOTE="justinblair2"]i dont get everyone hypes killzone 2? It doesnt matter how good it looks or how good that trailer looked. Killzone 1 was not good at all *IMO* and the majority feels that way. CyanX73
Actually, the game was a "good" game. Not great, not spectactular, not a classic, but good. If you look at the scores it got, most rankings will say good but needs work. This is where two years and 40 million come into effect. If you still think the game is destined to be bad no matter how good it looks then please say what was so bad about the game. Did you kill enemies with flowers? I'm willing to bet that almost of all you people that say stuff like this have never even played Killzone.
Actually thats why i said IMO and in case you didnt know that means in my opinion. now back to the point at hand, so what your saying here is because of 40 million and 2 years the game is gonna look so graphically stunning that my mind wont be able to comprehend if the game is bad or not? Im not sayin the game will fail nor did i say that in my orginial post. What i said was why does everyone have such high expectations for a game that was only mediocore to begin with. Now this may be a hard concept for you to grasp but this is ALL MY OWN OPINION. So there is no need of you or anyone else tryin to convince me that this game was Good. For the record, I hopekillzone two rocks my face offbecause my ps3 hasnt been turned on since NGS demo
[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="justinblair2"]i dont get everyone hypes killzone 2? It doesnt matter how good it looks or how good that trailer looked. Killzone 1 was not good at all *IMO* and the majority feels that way. justinblair2
Actually, the game was a "good" game. Not great, not spectactular, not a classic, but good. If you look at the scores it got, most rankings will say good but needs work. This is where two years and 40 million come into effect. If you still think the game is destined to be bad no matter how good it looks then please say what was so bad about the game. Did you kill enemies with flowers? I'm willing to bet that almost of all you people that say stuff like this have never even played Killzone.
Actually thats why i said IMO and in case you didnt know that means in my opinion.
Dude, you said "and the majority feel that way." So stop as if you were just speaking for yourself. I merely stated that the game was good despite your opinion and how the "majority" of people feel (who you're amazingly tapped into btw). And since when is debating someone on their opinion so taboo? Isn't that we do here most of the time? You still haven't told me what was so bad/mediocre/whatever about the first game that is un-repairable :).
the concept art looks very cyberpunk in places, and thats not a bad thing.
hopefully this game will be much better than the first one.
hellz yea! anyone like the first one?? i friggin LOVED it! gameplay was revolutionary! the bugs were minor.justin_06I KNOW! I don't understand why it was sssooo underrated.
IMO:
There are more reasons to think this game will be good than amazing. First of all, face it: anything less than AAA is going to be considered a flop all across the boards. This game recieved way to much attention and there are way to many people counting on it to deliver....based on cgi footage. All of it....based on cgi footage. Other than that, all we know about this game is that lots of people are working on it and lots of money is being put into it - neither of which is enough to make this game reach it's hype.
And perhaps the graphicswill resemble the famous trailor...perhaps they will be spot on. None of that will mean anything if the game play and online play are not amongst the best around. Every review site and eventually every gamer will see right through the graphics and be bored of the game within a few months. Halo 2 is still one of the most popular online games...that is the result of having great gameplay and great online functions. I find it hard to believe that over the course of 3-4 years, the developers can take what they did with the original Killzone - all of it's mistakes - and turn it into a AAA game. I find it hard to believethat the developers can take a game thatwas only worth playing for perhaps a month, andturn it into a game that is worth playing forseveralyears.
I'm not saying there is no reason to believe this game will be amazing, I'm just saying that it's more likely that it won't be. This feeling that a game is going to be amazing isn't uncommon, especially if you remember waiting for ps3 launch and to pick up Resistance. But what was hyped a possibleHalo killer turned out to be far less.
So here's the problem with this thread. I've seen Haze and COD4 gameplay footage and they look good. I've yet to see Killzone 2 footage and the original killzone wasnt that great at all. So, why should we forget about two promising titles and focus on something no one has seen that is built on hype?
[QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. CyanX73
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Great question
While we are at it, what is so bad about any game that is unrepairable?
Nothing? Wow, than we should hype every game AAA.
Hot DAYUMN!!!! But, I still perfer CoD4, cuz I can't wait to see the kinda game I've been dreaming of(namely, it's a present version of WWII that doesn't have Tom Clancy in the title).Eman5805
try battlefield 2 for pc. It's amazing and probably just what you're looking for.
Once I see a gameplay of it then I can say the same as you but at the moment no, just because they said it will look close tothe trailershown in 2005doesn't mean it will be great, we need to see some actual gameplay.
[QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. CyanX73
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Its not that the game is unrepairable, it just wasn't anything close to exceptional. Killzone just felt like a generic game. It felt dead to me. Nothing made it seem like I wasimmersed in the environments. Killzone 2 could be muchbetter. Realistically, even if it was much better I do not think it will be an extremely memorable experience based on Sony never really giving this game a fair chance.Most of the people in hereact like the sequelto a mediocre game is going to be greatest potential FPS. Why?Because Sony showed aCGI trailer and tried to claim it as real??? Better question to ask is whatwas so great about Killzone that even warrents being semi hyped about its sequel? Dated gameplay on dated hardware when it came out. Doesn't matter what perfume you spray on a terd, in the endits stilljust a terd. http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/918762.asp?q=Killzone
BTW, I think Sony's surprise is going to be SOCOM. Mainly becauseof its chances right now. It has not been killed with hype.
Haze has not been super hyped but the gameplay looks excellent. This is why I feel it has a better chance. Time will tell.
[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. bezaire2005
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Great question
While we are at it, what is so bad about any game that is unrepairable?
Nothing? Wow, than we should hype every game AAA.
Not true. Some games just have a bad premise. Most games don't get a 40 million dollar budget. Amazing that none of you can tell me what was so bad about KZ.
[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. CyanX73
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Great question
While we are at it, what is so bad about any game that is unrepairable?
Nothing? Wow, than we should hype every game AAA.
Not true. Some games just have a bad premise. Most games don't get a 40 million dollar budget. Amazing that none of you can tell me what was so bad about KZ.
If money was the deciding factor in whether or not a game is amazing or not, than 40 million would be great. But sadly, most people won't care if a game cost 40 million to make if it sucks. Don't act like games need monster budgets to be successful. Take Gears of War for example. It cost only 10 million to make and there is no current equal to it. So rest your money comment because it's irrelevant.
Amazing how you couldn't tell me what was so bad about another game that couldn't be fixed. Everything can be fixed. That's why nobody chose to answer your question...because it's pointless and applies to every game. If an original game has a bad premise, the developers can take the sequal in another direction. It's not that nobody can answer your question, it's that your question sucks.
As far as things that were wrong with the game: It was very linear. Each mission was pretty much the same... you go somewhere, shoot something, than move onto the next mission to do it again. Of course this will make a "good" game, but it's certainly nowhere near AAA quality.
What did this gamedo to separateitself from othershooters?The guns were generic, and can be found in just about every fps on the market. The missions werenot much different than you would find in any other FPS game. The graphics were nice, but didn't stand above anything else out at the time.
And the framerate sucked. Go ahead, deny it if you wish...but when the framerate gets so bad that it's hard to properly aim...there's a problem.
[QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. bezaire2005
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Great question
While we are at it, what is so bad about any game that is unrepairable?
Nothing? Wow, than we should hype every game AAA.
Not true. Some games just have a bad premise. Most games don't get a 40 million dollar budget. Amazing that none of you can tell me what was so bad about KZ.
If money was the deciding factor in whether or not a game is amazing or not, than 40 million would be great. But sadly, most people won't care if a game cost 40 million to make if it sucks. Don't act like games need monster budgets to be successful. Take Gears of War for example. It cost only 10 million to make and there is no current equal to it. So rest your money comment because it's irrelevant.
Amazing how you couldn't tell me what was so bad about another game that couldn't be fixed. Everything can be fixed. That's why nobody chose to answer your question...because it's pointless and applies to every game. If an original game has a bad premise, the developers can take the sequal in another direction. It's not that nobody can answer your question, it's that your question sucks.
As far as things that were wrong with the game: It was very linear. Each mission was pretty much the same... you go somewhere, shoot something, than move onto the next mission to do it again. Of course this will make a "good" game, but it's certainly nowhere near AAA quality.
What did this gamedo to separateitself from othershooters?The guns were generic, and can be found in just about every fps on the market. The missions werenot much different than you would find in any other FPS game. The graphics were nice, but didn't stand above anything else out at the time.
And the framerate sucked. Go ahead, deny it if you wish...but when the framerate gets so bad that it's hard to properly aim...there's a problem.
ok then, i would have to say Kllzone 1 had the best mellee attacks of any fps ive played, it also had some of the, if not the best reload animations of any fps , and the story is good ,AND the whole art direction and character models i liked.gears was good, but i wouldnt say that nothing touches it? it looks good, but not too much after that you can really say about the game, super linear , killswitch gameplay, no variety for gameplay , game only had 3 colors in the entire game lol, they looked good tho, i really didnt like gears.
[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="CyanX73"][QUOTE="Taijiquan"]Killzone was barely mediocre at best. Haze will do better. foxbait95
Again, what was so bad about the game that is unrepairable? What was so bad that there is no possibility for improvement? Can't get an answer.
Great question
While we are at it, what is so bad about any game that is unrepairable?
Nothing? Wow, than we should hype every game AAA.
Not true. Some games just have a bad premise. Most games don't get a 40 million dollar budget. Amazing that none of you can tell me what was so bad about KZ.
If money was the deciding factor in whether or not a game is amazing or not, than 40 million would be great. But sadly, most people won't care if a game cost 40 million to make if it sucks. Don't act like games need monster budgets to be successful. Take Gears of War for example. It cost only 10 million to make and there is no current equal to it. So rest your money comment because it's irrelevant.
Amazing how you couldn't tell me what was so bad about another game that couldn't be fixed. Everything can be fixed. That's why nobody chose to answer your question...because it's pointless and applies to every game. If an original game has a bad premise, the developers can take the sequal in another direction. It's not that nobody can answer your question, it's that your question sucks.
As far as things that were wrong with the game: It was very linear. Each mission was pretty much the same... you go somewhere, shoot something, than move onto the next mission to do it again. Of course this will make a "good" game, but it's certainly nowhere near AAA quality.
What did this gamedo to separateitself from othershooters?The guns were generic, and can be found in just about every fps on the market. The missions werenot much different than you would find in any other FPS game. The graphics were nice, but didn't stand above anything else out at the time.
And the framerate sucked. Go ahead, deny it if you wish...but when the framerate gets so bad that it's hard to properly aim...there's a problem.
ok then, i would have to say Kllzone 1 had the best mellee attacks of any fps ive played, it also had some of the, if not the best reload animations of any fps , and the story is good ,AND the whole art direction and character models i liked.gears was good, but i wouldnt say that nothing touches it? it looks good, but not too much after that you can really say about the game, super linear , killswitch gameplay, no variety for gameplay , game only had 3 colors in the entire game lol, they looked good tho, i really didnt like gears.
It was linear, but it brought variety to the gameplay. Not only did you have to fight off these huge enemies, in some levels you had to completely stay out of the dark. Also there was the part where one member of the group had to keep the spotlight on the other person while he maneuvered his way through enemies while trying to stay out of the dark.
On top of that, there were lots of innovative weapons. The chainsaw gun, the hammer of dawn, the torque bow...what was the must innovative gun in Killzone? The AK-47? Gears also had the active reload system which is uncommon in other shooters. These were things that Gears brought to the table that distinguished itself from other shooters. The result? Great ratings from nearly every review site, and the top online game of the next generation so far, as well as over 4 million copies sold.
And I don't see why you chose to mention those things you liked about Killzone while quoting me. They didn't apply to anything at all that I talked about. I didn't say that the game did everything terrible, I was just answering the kid who asked the same question about 40 times on what was wrong with the game. Although I find it a stretch to say it had the best melee and reload animations, the game had some positive aspects...I agree. But none of those things will make it live up to the hype that the game is getting.
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