720p support for blu-ray soon?

I'm in big debates on the HDTV to buy right now.  I understand that Blu-Ray only plays in 1080p or 480p and won't scale to 720p.  Anyone know of an undate that will allow for movies to scale to 720p?

I know alot of games support 1080p, like Lair coming but will they scale down to 720p if thats all you purchase?

i got casino royale and my tv preforms 720p... it worked fine with that bd movie. also i have motorstorm and it's great @ 720pginraisama

So if I purchase a tv that supports 720p or 1080i.  Blu-Ray movies on my PS3 will scale to 1080i or drop down to 480p? 

What about games like L.A.I.R.?  It's 1080p, will it scale down to 720p or 1080i or what?  If the person owns a 720p tv.

So if I purchase a tv that supports 720p or 1080i. Blu-Ray movies on my PS3 will scale to 1080i or drop down to 480p?

 

What about games like L.A.I.R.? It's 1080p, will it scale down to 720p or 1080i or what? If the person owns a 720p tv.

caseypayne69

I was play nba homecourt(1080p) on my friends 1080i tv and it went to 1080i so no worries

does the 1080i have to be checked off in the display settings on the ps3 for it to scale from 720p to 1080i? cause i only have 480p and 720p checked and blu-rays look awesome on my hdtv(which doesn't support 1080p)SOedipus

Actually,  what your seeing is 480p scaled to 720p...Set your PS3 to 1080i for movies,  and the HDTV will scale it to 720p. 

ok, so you're saying that the ps3 won't scale the blu-ray 1080p signal to 720p? 1080i is inferior generally to 720p, especially after the ps3 scales the original image to 1080i and the tv scales it a second time to it's native 720p. so yeah, if the ps3 can't scale to 720p it's a problem.squirrelgrrrl84

The PS3 is not doing any scaling from 1080p to 1080i,  only the HDTV scales from 1080i to 720p........

I even set my Xbox 360 to 1080i for HD-DVD movies...Here is King Kong with the 360 set to 1080i..

Also,  check this thread out.  2 out of 3  720p owners set there HD DVD players to 1080i

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=846116

 View Poll Results: What is your HD DVD player's output setting?

  I set my player to output 1080i for the best picture on my 720P display.      102   65.38%

  I set my player to output 720P for the best picture on my 720P display.      54   34.62%

He's asking if there will be an update that will allow movies to play in 720p...And im saying what's the point?  Just set your PS3 to 1080i,  and let your HDTV do the scaling...That's what people who can choose either 1080i or 720p do anyway..m3Boarder32

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]He's asking if there will be an update that will allow movies to play in 720p...And im saying what's the point?  Just set your PS3 to 1080i,  and let your HDTV do the scaling...That's what people who can choose either 1080i or 720p do anyway..squirrelgrrrl84

1080i is not "inferior" to 720p.  It all depends on the native resolution of your TV, I have 2 HDTVs in my house, one is 720p native and one is 1080i native.  The PS3 looks better in 1080i on the set that is 1080i native and better in 720p on the set that is 720p native.  "Bottom of the barrel accessible hd format" as you put it, is actually 480p, which is EDTV, but by FCC standards is marketable as an HD resolution.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, when I say the "PS3 looks better" in a particular format, I'm actually referring to Blu-Ray disc playback, the games all look better on the 720p TV since the PS3 doesn't scale to 1080i. 

yeah i already mentioned the issue about it playing in native format of the tv, and since i was talking about 720p tvs i didn't feel it necessary to reiterate, although for what it's worth, 1080i is technically inferior to 720p. but yes, if you have a 1080i only tv, 720p will look worse than 1080i, while on a 720p tv, 720p will look better than 1080i. regardless of whether 480p is able to be technically marketed as hd, 1080i is the bottom of the barrel of the 3 hd formats that probably 99% of people recognize.squirrelgrrrl84

1080i is in no way inferior to 720p.  It mainly comes down to personal preference.  You may feel that 1080i is inferior while others may feel differently.  From a technical aspect, 1080i is actually a better resolution, but again, some people like 720p better. 

get a 720p\1080i tv or a 1080p

You will always be good if its a fairly new tv with hdmi.. just get one of those. 

while the term 'better' is qualitative, under the best circumstances 720p offers a sharper picture, no interlacing, and higher effective resolution (since with 1080i, the 1080 vertical res. is split between two fields / frame, givng you two slightly different images per frame that are effectively 540 lines high). unless i'm wrong (which is possible, though i'm fairly certain i'm not), those are some of the things that are generally considered to offer a 'better' hd picture. but yes, some people prefer 1080i over 720p, while i defintely prefer 720p.squirrelgrrrl84

Exactly my point, your PERSONAL PREFERENCE is 720p, but that in no way indicates which resolution is better.  My point is, you shouldn't be telling people which is technically better based on your personal preference.  You are basing the information you are giving people on opinion and not fact.  And according to Consumer Reports magazine, and several websites you are wrong as well

The PS3 will output Blu-ray at 1080i60, which holds exactly the same detail as 1080p at 30fps, only 1080i has the 30 frames split into two fields shown twice as fast, thus 1080i at 60hz equals 1080p at 30 frames per second And movie are 24fps.

 And that's perfectly fine for movies. So 1080i is vastly superior to 720p in regards to film, especially if you got a 1080p tv. I mean I have an HD-DVD player that only outputs 1080i at the highest, but giving that to my 1080p tv will just about result in a 1080p picture, twice as good as if I picked 720p. Actually, all blu-ray players or HD-DVD players that claim 1080p output have to first convert the 1080p24 off the movie to 1080i60 with 2:3 conversion, then convert to 1080p60. So even if you have a 1080p tv and the PS3 and do 1080p for Blu-ray the movie was actually 1080i at one point.

But note, the PS3 and other players often do the last 1080i-to-1080p conversion better than most tvs would. Only way to get around that is if the player supports direct 1080p24 off the disc, which the PS3 does not yet, and then most 1080p tvs don't support that yet, some do. Most upcoming HDTVs will be 120hz and finally 24fps is dividable 5 times into that, so you'll get smooth motion since doing the 2:3 conversion to 30fps for 60hz tvs causes a jitter due by only duplicating some frames and not all evenly.

Now a 720p tv, most are actually native 768p (1366*768), so depending on how good the video processing is, giving the tv 1080i for movies and letting it downscale to 768p will hold more detail than upscaling lower 720p. But either way you'll end up with a 720p picture when choosing 1080i, just don't do that for games (which is a pain because 1080p games will want to default to 1080i since you can't just have a seperate resolution setting for blu-ray)

So overally 1080i on a 720p tv for movies is not bad, sometimes better, but usually no worse than 720p, just don't do 1080i for games.