Anyone else frustrated that the PS4 Pro only targets visuals over stable framerates?

I haven't seen a single Pro patched game that allows you to play the game in it's original/vanilla mode with the support of the new hardware to boost framerate performance. Every single option has been about enhanced visuals and higher framerate, but nothing to support STABLE framerates.

Really frustrated with this trend.

You have to understand somthing, all the games are now upscaled/optimized/tuned to the new hardware of the PRO, as soon as games will be developed for the PRO from the start i think that the preformance will be sharper and better.

It couldn't really do better and it will stay that way since the OG PS4 will still be supported ... so of course the only thing the PRO can do is better graphics if you play on a 4k tv.

it was the same crap with the jump from the 3DS to the N3DS ... it was only graphics because no old game got better. Just better 3DS and this is it because it would be stupid to abandon all the people who bought the original 3DS ...

It is the same thing. Until the next gen, both the PS4 and PS4 PRO will perform pretty much the same with every game.

@Coco_pierrot:These games say hi;

Futuridium EP Deluxe

Lifespeed

Hyper Light EX

Mini Mario and Friends amiibo Challenge

Pirate Pop Plus

The Binding of Isaac Rebirth

Wind Up Knight 2

Xenoblade Chronicles 3D

Runbow

forma.8

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-why-are-some-ps4-pro-titles-running-slower-than-base-hardware

This is pretty sad. For those who don't care about the visual upgrade, I'd recommend staying away from the Pro for now. Devs aren't giving us the option to turn off the visual enhancements.

@GTR12: I've only heard of Xenoblade and I remember people were quite pissed off at this.

@GTR12: Word. Lol. The PS4 Pro is dope. Considering we already have all these games with patches and the Console just dropped I can't wait for the future. Next yr will be sick!

@Coco_pierrot:Exactly, with all the flip-flops this gen, Sony could say there's exclusive PS4P games soon.

@redskins4045: Umm your quoting the wrong guy, I hate the PS4P and I hope its a colossal failure.

Uhh? why?

Well I was disappointed with Infamous. Better just cap the framerate at 30 fps and use the higher resolution option since with the other option the framerate was all over the place, like in the original unpatched version.

So do you think it will suck on the last of us? Please I need info now.

See the link posted by @Tangsta03

"However, the bottom line is this: for games like Skyrim, The Last of Us and Mantis Burn Racing, gameplay will actually be smoother overall on base PlayStation 4 hardware."

If it succeeds, then we get a PS console revision every 3 years, then every 2 years, then every year.

@Tangsta03:

As someone who is used to 30 fps, I'd gladly take visuals over framerate any day of the week.

@killered3: This isn't about 30fps vs 60fps. It's about stable framerates. I don't mind 30fps either, but I do mind if it drops and becomes noticeable. If you're going to give me 30fps, then make sure it's rock solid all the way through.

My concern is that are games going to be developed strictly for PS4 PRO or it'll be generally played for any PS4, just I'll get the short end of the graphics?

I don't think I want to convert for a PS4 since it's still running well. I'm not crazy about graphics.

@Tangsta03: the ps4 pro is underpowered, it's bottlenecked, and that's why you cant get high end graphics with a great frame rate. Sony and the game devs need to fix all the launch issues or have an official recall before there is a class action lawsuit. I would love to know I'm wrong, Ive purchased every PlayStation console and handheld over the years, but Sony I think screwed up this time and even if I like them I need to call them on it.

I would be if I relied on consoles to do my gaming. 60Hz MIN, always.... but that's why I only use them if there is a compelling exclusive.

I just hope the new games that are developed for the PRO don't effect the original PS4. I have no desire to upgrade and satisfied with my original PS4.

Devs are setting games to run up-scaled from 1080p to 1800p for example....

The PS4 Pro cannot handle 1800p, let alone 4k. The Pro running games at 1800p is like having the original PS4 run the same game at 1080p - it can, but the performance is going to be mediocre at best.

PS4 has a GTX 750Ti/HD 7850 equivalent GPU - these are low-level cards by today's standards and are ideal for sub 1080p gaming. 720p, they'll handle anything you throw at it. 1080p? Sure, they can do it, but at lower settings and they won't hold a high, stable framerate for the most part.

PS4 Pro has a GTX 970/R9 290x or 390 equivalent GPU. These are ideal for 1080p gaming. They can tackle most games out there on high settings at 1080p without much of a problem. Once you go past 1080p, they start to struggle. They're not ideal for 1440p, let alone 1800p some devs are putting games at for the PS4 Pro. Asking the Pro to handle 1800p or 4K resolutions is the same as expecting the original PS4 to play games on 1080p without frame dips - just not going to happen.

Why anyone is surprised at the performance dips on the PS4 Pro is beyond me. Devs are being stupid. They need to maximize their games to run with much better/higher settings on 1080p. They could have great looking games on 1080p using what the PS4 Pro has to offer. They need to relax and back away from the idea the new PS4 or Xbox will handle games above 1080p without issues and should play VR games much better over the original X1 and PS4. Right now, all that's going to happen is people that buy the new systems are going to be mad the performance is crappy at resolutions above 1080p (or in the case of the Pro, games running at resolutions over 1080p and are being downsampled to 1080p, the games are taking hits in performance because the system cannot play games above 1080p very well with it's hardware).