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#1 donalbane
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I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360...
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#2 walton13
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wow lol, you could cause the apocalypse... but i dont think that the PS3 is set up to handle media center well.
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I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?
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exactly, the only reason i still have Windows is for the games... also at Donalbane, Multitasking is coming in the March Update.
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#7 donalbane
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exactly, the only reason i still have Windows is for the games... also at Donalbane, Multitasking is coming in the March Update. walton13
That's great news. Thanks for not attacking my character ;)
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... ZeLeam

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems.  Do you disagree or what?
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[QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.
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[QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems.  Do you disagree or what?

obviously he does, and hes right its horrid, have you been reading the reports about vista ? apple knows how to make an OS windows just rips them off, you know vista is a complete rip of mac OS10 and MS freely admits that ? and i seen someone running mac os10 on ps3 but it only was using the ppe, that is why most run like crap cus they run off the one core only, if they tapped into just one spe its could all be gravy. you should get ubuntu i heard its great on ps3 and other ones too, look em on youtube man
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.
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"but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems." Never thought I would actually read that anywhere, ever. Your just joking right?
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#13 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="nosedive51"]"but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems." Never thought I would actually read that anywhere, ever. Your just joking right?

god, i hope he is, cause that was honestly the most confusing thing ive ever read
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.

I have been with windows since 95... works like a charm, but I do admit I havn't tried any of the alternatives because I never had the need to. Also, I don't try and do to much in the way of advanced stuff, (maybe editing the occasional .ini file to make a game run in widesrceen or something minor like that) but I build PCs for fun and know my way around the hardware (going to build my friend one this weekend, actually.)

It seems people are saying that Windows is crappy compared to OSX, whereas I was discussing the different operating systems on the PS3 and 360. If you own both consoles and favor the way the PS3 handles things, I'd be really surprised. That's what I'm comparing... Sony with MS regarding their different CONSOLE operating systems. 

I may actually install Linux on my PS3.  People have been talking about how cool it is, and I like to dabble in stuff like that.  Not many games though, eh?

So all you guys are posting on Macs, I take it?

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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.

I have been with windows since 95... works like a charm, but I do admit I havn't tried any of the alternatives because I never had the need to. Also, I don't try and do to much in the way of advanced stuff, (maybe editing the occasional .ini file to make a game run in widesrceen or something minor like that) but I build PCs for fun and know my way around the hardware (going to build my friend one this weekend, actually.)

It seems people are saying that Windows is crappy compared to OSX, whereas I was discussing the different operating systems on the PS3 and 360. If you own both consoles and favor the way the PS3 handles things, I'd be really surprised. That's what I'm comparing... Sony with MS regarding their different CONSOLE operating systems. 

I may actually install Linux on my PS3.  People have been talking about how cool it is, and I like to dabble in stuff like that.  Not many games though, eh?

So all you guys are posting on Macs, I take it?

you stated M$ makes a good OS, no, they dont. even if you dont have "problems" per say, you for sure have memory management problems, you just dont know it cause you have no comparison. i started computing with apple and MSDOS, both of which worked just fine. when the first windows came out, my god it was a nightmare. behind the scenes windows has always been a memory hog, most of that crap is not needed, but M$ tacks it on cause it is easier to sell aesthetic crap to the average dumb consumer than it is to sell a decent OS. look at Vista, you have to pretty much make your computer the equivilant of a top of the line gaming computer to run it decently. thats not what a OS is for, OS is to manage, not to hog more resources than the things you are going to be doing with the system. microsoft has sloppy code, thats the explanation for the constant errors that plague it. also its a closed source design, so problems dont get fixed very quickly unlike linux. $300 for a pile of crap OS? no thanks. never paid for windows on anything i own, never will.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.

I have been with windows since 95... works like a charm, but I do admit I havn't tried any of the alternatives because I never had the need to. Also, I don't try and do to much in the way of advanced stuff, (maybe editing the occasional .ini file to make a game run in widesrceen or something minor like that) but I build PCs for fun and know my way around the hardware (going to build my friend one this weekend, actually.)

It seems people are saying that Windows is crappy compared to OSX, whereas I was discussing the different operating systems on the PS3 and 360. If you own both consoles and favor the way the PS3 handles things, I'd be really surprised. That's what I'm comparing... Sony with MS regarding their different CONSOLE operating systems. 

I may actually install Linux on my PS3.  People have been talking about how cool it is, and I like to dabble in stuff like that.  Not many games though, eh?

So all you guys are posting on Macs, I take it?

you stated M$ makes a good OS, no, they dont. even if you dont have "problems" per say, you for sure have memory management problems, you just dont know it cause you have no comparison. i started computing with apple and MSDOS, both of which worked just fine. when the first windows came out, my god it was a nightmare. behind the scenes windows has always been a memory hog, most of that crap is not needed, but M$ tacks it on cause it is easier to sell aesthetic crap to the average dumb consumer than it is to sell a decent OS. look at Vista, you have to pretty much make your computer the equivilant of a top of the line gaming computer to run it decently. thats not what a OS is for, OS is to manage, not to hog more resources than the things you are going to be doing with the system. microsoft has sloppy code, thats the explanation for the constant errors that plague it. also its a closed source design, so problems dont get fixed very quickly unlike linux. $300 for a pile of crap OS? no thanks. never paid for windows on anything i own, never will.

agreed. My mom just bought a Dell PC with an AMD dual-core processor and 512MB ram and Vista Home Edition. After I cleared just about everything from the startup menu and removed all the crap applications that come pre-installed, and restarted, Vista was still constantly using more the 60% of the memory available. I could barely do anything. I was reading in PC World that they recommend 4GB of RAM for Vista to run perfectly. 4GB!!!! That is horrendous.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... eclipsed4utoo

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

agreed, plus the PS3 OS is simple, but effective, unlike the M$ counterpart, which is pretty but a waste of resources. if you want good looking games, you cant waste everything on an OS. some people just cant get past pretty in the right spots for effective
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... eclipsed4utoo

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

I started on Windows 2.1 and AOL 3.0 and a 28.8 modem. boy, those were the days. when I would sign into AOL, it would take atleast 25 mintues for the actual application to connect and the buddy list to come up.
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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

the boot discs and editing the autoexec.bat and the config.sys did suck, but i never said MSDOS was great, it wasnt user friendly, but it didnt eat system resources. Linux is based off the tride and true Unix system, which is used for real servers all over because of its reliability. most good OS systems are based off Unix, some more loosely than others, which hurts them i feel. M$ has no reason to make a better OS, cause they have no competition, cause they bought up all the rights to software and have everyone install it on every computer that you can buy. Mac has no game support, so not many people go to it except media nuts. just cause they own a larg market share, doesnt mean they arent garbage, cause they are. your "better" comment is true for the computer itself, but M$ has definitely gone downhill. they just dont care, cause they know there is nothing that can compete with them cause of their market share and blatent monopoly. Bill gates is just a snake, hes not smart, hes a college drop out who took advantage of people, screwed some people, and basically slithered his way to where he is at. if this was a real capitalist society, then M$ would have been shunned long ago after all these problems they never fix emerged for something much better, most likely linux or mac. when i think windows, i think unstable, mainly because it is.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... eclipsed4utoo

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

I started on Windows 2.1 and AOL 3.0 and a 28.8 modem. boy, those were the days. when I would sign into AOL, it would take atleast 25 mintues for the actual application to connect and the buddy list to come up.

Oh my god, that's terrible!
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

the boot discs and editing the autoexec.bat and the config.sys did suck, but i never said MSDOS was great, it wasnt user friendly, but it didnt eat system resources. Linux is based off the tride and true Unix system, which is used for real servers all over because of its reliability. most good OS systems are based off Unix, some more loosely than others, which hurts them i feel. M$ has no reason to make a better OS, cause they have no competition, cause they bought up all the rights to software and have everyone install it on every computer that you can buy. Mac has no game support, so not many people go to it except media nuts. just cause they own a larg market share, doesnt mean they arent garbage, cause they are. your "better" comment is true for the computer itself, but M$ has definitely gone downhill. they just dont care, cause they know there is nothing that can compete with them cause of their market share and blatent monopoly. Bill gates is just a snake, hes not smart, hes a college drop out who took advantage of people, screwed some people, and basically slithered his way to where he is at. if this was a real capitalist society, then M$ would have been shunned long ago after all these problems they never fix emerged for something much better, most likely linux or mac. when i think windows, i think unstable, mainly because it is.

I guess your experiences are valid, but for my purposes my Media Center PC that I built to work in concert with the 360 has been reliable and does everything I need it to. And it doesn't crash on me... much. :P So why is there no competition? What about Macs... why aren't they considered competetors? Is it because they don't allow people to make clones of their hardware or what?
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[QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

I started on Windows 2.1 and AOL 3.0 and a 28.8 modem. boy, those were the days. when I would sign into AOL, it would take atleast 25 mintues for the actual application to connect and the buddy list to come up.

Oh my god, that's terrible!

not really, guess you guys dont remember the original modems, back when AOL didnt exist, and you connected to Bulletin boards for that kind of stuff, playing word based games online. back when the baud rate was 300-1200.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

the boot discs and editing the autoexec.bat and the config.sys did suck, but i never said MSDOS was great, it wasnt user friendly, but it didnt eat system resources. Linux is based off the tride and true Unix system, which is used for real servers all over because of its reliability. most good OS systems are based off Unix, some more loosely than others, which hurts them i feel. M$ has no reason to make a better OS, cause they have no competition, cause they bought up all the rights to software and have everyone install it on every computer that you can buy. Mac has no game support, so not many people go to it except media nuts. just cause they own a larg market share, doesnt mean they arent garbage, cause they are. your "better" comment is true for the computer itself, but M$ has definitely gone downhill. they just dont care, cause they know there is nothing that can compete with them cause of their market share and blatent monopoly. Bill gates is just a snake, hes not smart, hes a college drop out who took advantage of people, screwed some people, and basically slithered his way to where he is at. if this was a real capitalist society, then M$ would have been shunned long ago after all these problems they never fix emerged for something much better, most likely linux or mac. when i think windows, i think unstable, mainly because it is.

I guess your experiences are valid, but for my purposes my Media Center PC that I built to work in concert with the 360 has been reliable and does everything I need it to. And it doesn't crash on me... much. :P So why is there no competition? What about Macs... why aren't they considered competetors? Is it because they don't allow people to make clones of their hardware or what?

97% of the WORLD's PCs and servers run a windows environment. Microsoft has no competition.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

the boot discs and editing the autoexec.bat and the config.sys did suck, but i never said MSDOS was great, it wasnt user friendly, but it didnt eat system resources. Linux is based off the tride and true Unix system, which is used for real servers all over because of its reliability. most good OS systems are based off Unix, some more loosely than others, which hurts them i feel. M$ has no reason to make a better OS, cause they have no competition, cause they bought up all the rights to software and have everyone install it on every computer that you can buy. Mac has no game support, so not many people go to it except media nuts. just cause they own a larg market share, doesnt mean they arent garbage, cause they are. your "better" comment is true for the computer itself, but M$ has definitely gone downhill. they just dont care, cause they know there is nothing that can compete with them cause of their market share and blatent monopoly. Bill gates is just a snake, hes not smart, hes a college drop out who took advantage of people, screwed some people, and basically slithered his way to where he is at. if this was a real capitalist society, then M$ would have been shunned long ago after all these problems they never fix emerged for something much better, most likely linux or mac. when i think windows, i think unstable, mainly because it is.

I guess your experiences are valid, but for my purposes my Media Center PC that I built to work in concert with the 360 has been reliable and does everything I need it to. And it doesn't crash on me... much. :P So why is there no competition? What about Macs... why aren't they considered competetors? Is it because they don't allow people to make clones of their hardware or what?

they arent considered real competition cause Mac doesnt have the extreme software support that M$ has. do you not remember the huge thing about M$ putting MSN on all their computers, making it the automatic choice for dialing up? its the same crap with their internet explorer, which is a horrible way to browse the internet. Netscape was better, and Firefox is so much better its rediculous. just to give you an idea, with IE, i used to pick up about 3 viruses, and about 20 spyware programs a week. swapping to Firefox has brought it down to none, period. they are so cocky they just dont care what garbage they put out
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]I guess your experiences are valid, but for my purposes my Media Center PC that I built to work in concert with the 360 has been reliable and does everything I need it to. And it doesn't crash on me... much. :P So why is there no competition? What about Macs... why aren't they considered competitors [sic]? Is it because they don't allow people to make clones of their hardware or what?

That's exactly why. If people could just build their owns Macs as easy as they could build a PC things might be different. Plus Windows gets all the game support. You can't avoid it really. I do agree that Windows isn't as bad as some make it out to be. A lot of people blame Windows for crashing when it's really the fault of some hacked program that they downloaded from a Warez site.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="eclipsed4utoo"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Microsoft knows how to make an OS pretty. They do not know how to make great OS's. Why is it that a HDD with Windows installed needs to be defraged, but a HDD with any other OS on it, doesn't need to be? Sounds like an OS problem to me. come March, multi-tasking will become part of the PS3. so you can remove that bash from your inventory.

Well I am very exited that the PS3 is going to improve it's functionality. To be fair, the 360 didn't multitask quite as well as it does now when it was a few months old either. It's not a bash to say that the emperor has no clothes. I didn't say it out of spite or anything. And I can recall using MSDOS too... boy, what a pain making bootable discs to manage your virtual memory. I havn't edited an autoexec.bat disc in so many years I'd all but forgotten how horrid that experience was. The commodore 64 was better in this sense as I recall, but that's going way way back. Man, computers sure have gotten better.

the boot discs and editing the autoexec.bat and the config.sys did suck, but i never said MSDOS was great, it wasnt user friendly, but it didnt eat system resources. Linux is based off the tride and true Unix system, which is used for real servers all over because of its reliability. most good OS systems are based off Unix, some more loosely than others, which hurts them i feel. M$ has no reason to make a better OS, cause they have no competition, cause they bought up all the rights to software and have everyone install it on every computer that you can buy. Mac has no game support, so not many people go to it except media nuts. just cause they own a larg market share, doesnt mean they arent garbage, cause they are. your "better" comment is true for the computer itself, but M$ has definitely gone downhill. they just dont care, cause they know there is nothing that can compete with them cause of their market share and blatent monopoly. Bill gates is just a snake, hes not smart, hes a college drop out who took advantage of people, screwed some people, and basically slithered his way to where he is at. if this was a real capitalist society, then M$ would have been shunned long ago after all these problems they never fix emerged for something much better, most likely linux or mac. when i think windows, i think unstable, mainly because it is.

Maybe we should have stuck with dos right?
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show me where i implied that there Deihmos, i think this conversation is a bit over head, i gave clear reasons for my statements, obviously you dont understand them, it would be better if you refrained from commenting on something you dont understand
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... ZeLeam

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Windows is cr@p.....it hasn't had innovation since 1995.... tiger OS and Linux Debian are way better...
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Multitasking is coming in the March Update. walton13


Really? Link?
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[QUOTE="GoddBless"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I guess your experiences are valid, but for my purposes my Media Center PC that I built to work in concert with the 360 has been reliable and does everything I need it to. And it doesn't crash on me... much. :P So why is there no competition? What about Macs... why aren't they considered competitors [sic]? Is it because they don't allow people to make clones of their hardware or what?

That's exactly why. If people could just build their owns Macs as easy as they could build a PC things might be different. Plus Windows gets all the game support. You can't avoid it really. I do agree that Windows isn't as bad as some make it out to be. A lot of people blame Windows for crashing when it's really the fault of some hacked program that they downloaded from a Warez site.

actually most of it is caused by windows, the big problem with windows is it mismanages the memory, and loads up the cache with everything under the sun, but never unloads it. you get fragments all over the system, and it causes a crash. a lot of windows errors are memory errors, pay attention to some of them sometime.
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#33 gamenux
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="nosedive51"]"but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems." Never thought I would actually read that anywhere, ever. Your just joking right?

god, i hope he is, cause that was honestly the most confusing thing ive ever read

I haven't been playing with computer OS for that long and I can tell you M$ knows 2 things only. How to make lots of money and how to make a nice looking interface. And since everyone is jumping on this thread... I figure I would too. For an OS (Windows) that is made to mult-task, I find it is best to single-task instead. Close each window before opening another. This will ensure you OS will not crash as often.
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show me where i implied that there Deihmos, i think this conversation is a bit over head, i gave clear reasons for my statements, obviously you dont understand them, it would be better if you refrained from commenting on something you dont understandGzus666
Lack of game support didn't do anything to Mac. There are not that many hardcore PC gamers out there. Mac lost because of Windows and intel. Windows offered a much more user friendly alternative to the Mac OS. Then software and hardware support followed Windows. Macs struggled against the IMBM PCs ever since they were released.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.

Actually this PC has been on for over a year, and 2 I can catch any problems right away. Well they're all rip offs, it all started when Xerox presented the Star OS, which was later copied from them. When the one of the guys from Xerox was hired by Steve Jobs from Apple. And used these ideas when he hired Alan Kay who was at PARC at the time. So in away he bought somebody out to come work for him, and build an OS (Macintosh) for Apple. They stole Xerox's thunder.
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Microsoft ruins everything they touch.

I have an MCSE (for those who don't know, "Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer"), and finally gave up on PC's and bought an IMAC. It was the best thing I have ever done. I don't want to get into it, but if you knew what Microsoft (and every PC manufacturer) did without your knowledge, you wouldn't be happy.

I witnessed it first hand with cold/hard evidence.

Microsoft does NOT know how to make an OS.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Fusible
XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossba!!!!" *covers body with flame retardant jelly*

yes, windows is poorly programmed, obviously you havent been messing with windows for a long period of time. the only reason windows is used so widely, is because they have a basic monopoly. they pre-load computers with the OS, windows is crap, obviously you havent seen how windows misuses system resources, or the mind boggling ways they waste space, and load up the cache without ever clearing it. thats why you have to restart windows to fix it most of the time. try linux, there is a guy who has a running tally, as of now, he has had his linux system running for over a year without restarting or turning it off without any errors. try that with a windows system.

Actually this PC has been on for over a year, and 2 I can catch any problems right away. Well they're all rip offs, it all started when Xerox presented the Star OS, which was later copied from them. When the one of the guys from Xerox was hired by Steve Jobs from Apple. And used these ideas when he hired Alan Kay who was at PARC at the time. So in away he bought somebody out to come work for him, and build an OS (Macintosh) for Apple. They stole Xerox's thunder.

the point is you should have to "catch" the problems. if a system is well made, the problems, at least the stupid ones windows gets, wouldnt happen in the first place.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious.  It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... donalbane

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Yeah, they can make a decent OS after like 10 years lol! Plus it's a gross copy of MAC
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Just wondering if anyone has installed Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 on PS3. Is it cool? Was it easy? Did you give Linux 10 gb or 50 gb? Did anyone figure out how to run it in Standard Definition?

Thanks for any responses.

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[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... ZeLeam

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.
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[QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... NextGenNow

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

Yeah, they can make a decent OS after like 10 years lol! Plus it's a gross copy of MAC

oh yeah, because windows vista looks sooooo much like OSX..... you know, like how it has a task bar, and a start menu, and the file structure is completely different, and it can actually RUN PROGRAMS THAT MATTER (like games....), oh yeah and there is a registry, windows is not Unix based, you actually INSTALL programs rather then dragging and dropping.... do have to go on? do not try to compare windows and OSX..... they are not even close to being similar.
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#42 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Roland123_basic

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.
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#43 Roland123_basic
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.

crappy product + good marketing only goes so far. eventually people uncover that the product is crappy and stop buying it. windows does what it does well, and that is provide an operating system for PCs that runs well and supports the software that people need. i havent had a blue screen since windows 98...... i have been running windows 2K, XP, and now Vista. they have all run great, and i have worked them to the bone. i am in IT, and now computers inside out. windows is the STANDARD in todays PC market. most techies only like linux because they think it is "cool" to talk bad about microsoft. face it, linux/mac OS are not popular, and do not have the software support that windows does. and BTW..... i consider my Porsche 911 to be a European car..... and honestly.... it is the best car i have ever owned. you fail at making a comparison....
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Roland123_basic

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.

crappy product + good marketing only goes so far. eventually people uncover that the product is crappy and stop buying it. windows does what it does well, and that is provide an operating system for PCs that runs well and supports the software that people need. i havent had a blue screen since windows 98...... i have been running windows 2K, XP, and now Vista. they have all run great, and i have worked them to the bone. i am in IT, and now computers inside out. windows is the STANDARD in todays PC market. most techies only like linux because they think it is "cool" to talk bad about microsoft. face it, linux/mac OS are not popular, and do not have the software support that windows does. and BTW..... i consider my Porsche 911 to be a European car..... and honestly.... it is the best car i have ever owned. you fail at making a comparison....

what else would people run on PC? people are programmed to like PC, people are scared of change, and windows is all they know. you think the average joe knows anything about linux? of course not. ive met people who know nothing about computers that know windows is garbage, they just assume they have no other choice. if your in "IT" and by that i hope you dont mean the phone techs, then you should know that Unix structure is as solid as it gets for an OS. open source codes in Linux help problems get cleaned up quickly, closed source codes like windows take forever to fix a problem, take the service packs, did you forget that huge backdoor they had for like what, a couple weeks before they fixed it? everyone seems to ignore the consistent disc fragmenting with windows. also seemed to ignore the fact that windows poorly manages memory, if you think otherwise, again, you really like lying to yourself. these are not new things, people have known this crap for years, but you have to put up with it till something else gets support. if you jump purely to linux, guess what, no games, and you have to get used to a completely new setup, the average consumer is scared to death of that, even if they do know about linux. M$ never made anything good, just tolerable
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Roland123_basic

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.

crappy product + good marketing only goes so far. eventually people uncover that the product is crappy and stop buying it. windows does what it does well, and that is provide an operating system for PCs that runs well and supports the software that people need. i havent had a blue screen since windows 98...... i have been running windows 2K, XP, and now Vista. they have all run great, and i have worked them to the bone. i am in IT, and now computers inside out. windows is the STANDARD in todays PC market. most techies only like linux because they think it is "cool" to talk bad about microsoft. face it, linux/mac OS are not popular, and do not have the software support that windows does. and BTW..... i consider my Porsche 911 to be a European car..... and honestly.... it is the best car i have ever owned. you fail at making a comparison....

as for the car, wow, one whole car that is good? good for you. well, little backround on myself, ex-machinest, welding backround, ex-mechanic(ASE MASTER i might add, got all 8 certs on the first time testing.) ive known enough people who work on every make and model to know what is a decent vehicle, and what isnt. knew a guy who worked for porche, he quit cause everytime he worked on them, something broke while he was working on it, and the customer automatically blames a shop no matter what. personally i worked for Lexus, Toyota, and Volvo, volvo being a huge pile of crap with enough problems that the engineers that made the vehicle would come out and not know what is wrong with it. Volvo suspension fell to pieces about every 15k miles or so, Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Porche, VW are all the same way. VW almost went bankrupt because they were putting out rolling garbage for so long, till they revamped themselves. they are still junk, just not as bad as they were. most american cars besides their sports models are oil leaking machines. japanese cars vary from model to model, but mostly good quality with minimal problems. so yes, the european car was a perfect analogy
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[QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Gzus666

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.

crappy product + good marketing only goes so far. eventually people uncover that the product is crappy and stop buying it. windows does what it does well, and that is provide an operating system for PCs that runs well and supports the software that people need. i havent had a blue screen since windows 98...... i have been running windows 2K, XP, and now Vista. they have all run great, and i have worked them to the bone. i am in IT, and now computers inside out. windows is the STANDARD in todays PC market. most techies only like linux because they think it is "cool" to talk bad about microsoft. face it, linux/mac OS are not popular, and do not have the software support that windows does. and BTW..... i consider my Porsche 911 to be a European car..... and honestly.... it is the best car i have ever owned. you fail at making a comparison....

what else would people run on PC? people are programmed to like PC, people are scared of change, and windows is all they know. you think the average joe knows anything about linux? of course not. ive met people who know nothing about computers that know windows is garbage, they just assume they have no other choice. if your in "IT" and by that i hope you dont mean the phone techs, then you should know that Unix structure is as solid as it gets for an OS. open source codes in Linux help problems get cleaned up quickly, closed source codes like windows take forever to fix a problem, take the service packs, did you forget that huge backdoor they had for like what, a couple weeks before they fixed it? everyone seems to ignore the consistent disc fragmenting with windows. also seemed to ignore the fact that windows poorly manages memory, if you think otherwise, again, you really like lying to yourself. these are not new things, people have known this crap for years, but you have to put up with it till something else gets support. if you jump purely to linux, guess what, no games, and you have to get used to a completely new setup, the average consumer is scared to death of that, even if they do know about linux. M$ never made anything good, just tolerable

so you are complaining about windows because you say users have no other choice....... right ok. that is toootally a solid basis for an argument. they DO have a choice, they can run linux. is it my fault they dont know about linux? no, it is theirs for being uninformed. Complaining about something and doing nothing to fix it not only makes you a hypocrit, but a fool as well. you obviously have it in your head that windows is not worth using, go back to linux/unix then, since it works great for being a type writer or a server, but is completetly useless when it comes to software. ill go ahead and keep using windows, running the programs that i enjoy in an environment that IS stable (contrary to popular belief) as well as being fairly easy to use. i reallly couldnt care less about what system you use, all i know is, i support over one thousand users with 3 times that many computers. 85% are windows, 10% are mac, and 5% are linux. windows has problems that are easily fixed most of the time, mac has fewer problems but when it does have problems, it is catastrophic, and linux.... well... there arent even enough linux users to matter, and the ones that use linux already know how to fix things well enough themselves.
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im starting to think you have stock in M$, cause your taking it personal obviously. "is it my fault they dont know about linux" no, i doubt they would care what you do to be honest, nor did i say it was, just stating facts. odd that your one of the handfull of people that think windows works well, really is just odd.
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yeah there are only a handful *rolls eyes*
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yeah there are only a handful *rolls eyes*Roland123_basic
nice response, are you taking lessons from the 12 year old girls you hang with? i will take your obvious misquoting, and constant ignoring of the memory issues, and the cache misuse, and the fragmenting as you basically saying you know those are problems, but you ignore them to make sure your right no matter what.
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[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="Roland123_basic"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="ZeLeam"][QUOTE="donalbane"]

[QUOTE="Gzus666"][QUOTE="donalbane"]I was just curious. It would be so sacralicious to stream media from the PS3 to the 360... Roland123_basic

XP runs like garbage on the PS3, you have to emulate it through linux. the PS3 wasnt made to run a poorly programmed and resource hungry OS like windows. windows eats resources, and has very poor management of memory, which is a problem, since the PS3 doesnt have a lot of ram. plus you have to emulate it through another OS, which just makes it even worse

Ok then I won't even try it. Poorly programmed? For the PS3 maybe it's not a good fit, but if MS knows one thing it's how to make operating systems. I think the OS for the PS3 blows compared to the OS for the 360, but to each his own. I guess I'm a big fan of mult-itasking. On PS3 it's like, "NO, you will not be able to listen to music while chatting with a friend and downloading one game demo while playing another. One thing at a time! Exit what you're doing and return to the crossbar!!!"

*covers body with flame retardant jelly*

MS knows how to make operating systems? ever heard of windows?

Your question confuses me sir. I said MS knows operating systems. Do you disagree or what?

Yes i do. Since they released their first version, windows has an history of one crappy release after another, and sticking to ancient technology (anyone remembers FAT?). Their change in NT and XP has been the only positive thing... and not that XP runs fast. Microsoft servers are laughtable too. As far as i know, 360 is the only thing that MS has pulled out with true good performance :P. Which is kinda scary.

lemme guess.... Apple and you are intimate butt buddies? seriously.... making fun of MS for windows is a joke that died 5+ years ago. the fact of the matter is, windows is on TWICE as many machines as any other operating system. Even Mac users are running windows now, and Apple made a specific effort to convert all of their computers over to an architecture that would allow it. If it was a crappy product..... somehow i just dont think this would have been possible.

a lot of people drive european cars, doesnt make them good, they are piles of crap. just cause lemmings buy something, doesnt make it good. remember the baby boomer generation are the ones mostly buying a lot of this stuff, and a lot of them dont have in depth knowledge of computers. dont act like M$ is some amazing force and they won the market share because of a good product, your lying to yourself if you believe that.

crappy product + good marketing only goes so far. eventually people uncover that the product is crappy and stop buying it. windows does what it does well, and that is provide an operating system for PCs that runs well and supports the software that people need. i havent had a blue screen since windows 98...... i have been running windows 2K, XP, and now Vista. they have all run great, and i have worked them to the bone. i am in IT, and now computers inside out. windows is the STANDARD in todays PC market. most techies only like linux because they think it is "cool" to talk bad about microsoft. face it, linux/mac OS are not popular, and do not have the software support that windows does. and BTW..... i consider my Porsche 911 to be a European car..... and honestly.... it is the best car i have ever owned. you fail at making a comparison....

what else would people run on PC? people are programmed to like PC, people are scared of change, and windows is all they know. you think the average joe knows anything about linux? of course not. ive met people who know nothing about computers that know windows is garbage, they just assume they have no other choice. if your in "IT" and by that i hope you dont mean the phone techs, then you should know that Unix structure is as solid as it gets for an OS. open source codes in Linux help problems get cleaned up quickly, closed source codes like windows take forever to fix a problem, take the service packs, did you forget that huge backdoor they had for like what, a couple weeks before they fixed it? everyone seems to ignore the consistent disc fragmenting with windows. also seemed to ignore the fact that windows poorly manages memory, if you think otherwise, again, you really like lying to yourself. these are not new things, people have known this crap for years, but you have to put up with it till something else gets support. if you jump purely to linux, guess what, no games, and you have to get used to a completely new setup, the average consumer is scared to death of that, even if they do know about linux. M$ never made anything good, just tolerable

so you are complaining about windows because you say users have no other choice....... right ok. that is toootally a solid basis for an argument. they DO have a choice, they can run linux. is it my fault they dont know about linux? no, it is theirs for being uninformed. Complaining about something and doing nothing to fix it not only makes you a hypocrit, but a fool as well. you obviously have it in your head that windows is not worth using, go back to linux/unix then, since it works great for being a type writer or a server, but is completetly useless when it comes to software. ill go ahead and keep using windows, running the programs that i enjoy in an environment that IS stable (contrary to popular belief) as well as being fairly easy to use. i reallly couldnt care less about what system you use, all i know is, i support over one thousand users with 3 times that many computers. 85% are windows, 10% are mac, and 5% are linux. windows has problems that are easily fixed most of the time, mac has fewer problems but when it does have problems, it is catastrophic, and linux.... well... there arent even enough linux users to matter, and the ones that use linux already know how to fix things well enough themselves.

I guess you just have a diferent concept of "stable" than us. BTW, windows is not "good" for software, it's just a matter of support. Since windows is more extended it gets all the controllers etc, which linux doesnt. Linux is better than windows in every single thing except the support (specially game wise), and yes, if games were made for linux (along with good graphic drivers) they'd run better. Basicaly, the only reason windows is so extended atm is the early start and years of monopolistic agressive busines model...