Anyone think Trophies take away from games?

Maybe it's just me but I'm starting to feel like Trophies take away from games. I have some games that don't have trophies and it feels like I'm actually playing the game and enjoying it, as opposed to my other games WITH trophies, where I feel like I'm just working to get trophies. Obviously I know they are optional but I'm weird so I feel obligated to get the trophies in my games. What about you guys?

I think trophies have created a lot of fake gamers who are just jumping on the "video games are cool" bandwagon. Because they feel they need "a reason" to play most games in the first place.

I strongly disapprove trophies/achievements :

- it makes a non needed competition between players, but that's the M$ spirit "I pwn you, noob" ; general "trophies" like "finished the game", or "played 100 hours" would be enough to know if a player liked the game and played it much

- most gold and platinum are impossible to achieve for most players, being too time hungry (I played Prince of Persia for 35+ hours and could never find the last orb ... just for one bronze???)

- it allows game developers to compensate for the lack of game time in new games, by adding "things to do" (most of which don't mean anything) ; it's an element I hate, I like to play a game the way I want, not killing mobs or killing all some days, or doing this side missioon instead of that one

I think trophies have created a lot of fake gamers who are just jumping on the "video games are cool" bandwagon. Because they feel they need "a reason" to play most games in the first place.

Denji

I think Trophies are an excellent addition. I could care less about the competitive factor, it's about how you approach it.

I remember when Achievements came out when I used to play WoW, and I loved it. I loved doing all these extra things, finding new things out about the game, as well as being given new challenges to conquer. Let's face it, once we beat a game once it goes back on the shelf afterwards, unless it has multiplayer. Sure, some games have NG+, and a select few games have left such an impression on some of us that once we beat it, we played through it again, just to partake in its awesomeness.Trophies are merely a way to give extra bang for your buck.

What's hilarious is people complaining about them, acting like they're mandatory. They're not, it's completely up to the individual if they want to pursue them or not. And just because they don't like trophies somehow gives them the right to label those who do as elitists. Again; they're optional. If you don't like 'em, don't do 'em, but don't try and attach a profound negative meaning to them.

That's pretty juvenile, complaining about extra features that our favorite game companies added to their games. Just smile, say thank you, and shaddup.

That's a little bit off to say that having trophiesadded to the game is going to take away from them.. If a game has trophies and you don't like it then simply ignore them and play the game.. Having them there is good for people that do like them and the rest should simply ignore that they exist and move on. If you are seriously going to let the fact that a game has trophies destroy the game for you then maybe gaming just isn't right for you..

I feel that having trophies implemented into a game makes the game more enjoyable to play as it gives extra incentive to play the game to its fullest as opposed to just playing the game to complete it. I only wish that all the ps3 games, even the old ones had trophies.

I strongly disapprove trophies/achievements :

- it makes a non needed competition between players, but that's the M$ spirit "I pwn you, noob" ; general "trophies" like "finished the game", or "played 100 hours" would be enough to know if a player liked the game and played it much

- most gold and platinum are impossible to achieve for most players, being too time hungry (I played Prince of Persia for 35+ hours and could never find the last orb ... just for one bronze???)

- it allows game developers to compensate for the lack of game time in new games, by adding "things to do" (most of which don't mean anything) ; it's an element I hate, I like to play a game the way I want, not killing mobs or killing all some days, or doing this side missioon instead of that one

TheTenth10

^this

[QUOTE="TheTenth10"]

I strongly disapprove trophies/achievements :

- it makes a non needed competition between players, but that's the M$ spirit "I pwn you, noob" ; general "trophies" like "finished the game", or "played 100 hours" would be enough to know if a player liked the game and played it much

- most gold and platinum are impossible to achieve for most players, being too time hungry (I played Prince of Persia for 35+ hours and could never find the last orb ... just for one bronze???)

- it allows game developers to compensate for the lack of game time in new games, by adding "things to do" (most of which don't mean anything) ; it's an element I hate, I like to play a game the way I want, not killing mobs or killing all some days, or doing this side missioon instead of that one

Denji

^this

Unfortunately, ^that is still meaningless as Trophies are completely optional. It's still a bunch of useless negativity about something that isn't mandatory.

Hmm well maybe I just made this thread out of impulse anger from an extensive trophy I was trying to get. I realized I actually don't pay attention to trophies while progressing through the game's first play-through. I kinda get mad when I don't get all the trophies :P

EDIT: It's that when games have trophies I HAVE to get them. I can't just get a few and move on. I can't lay a game to rest until I've gotten them all.

Trophies have no impact on what games I play or buy, so their existence doesn't matter to me. I think they're a cute addition sometimes as milestones of what I'm doing in a game, like doing a barrel roll in Burnout or beating a game on the hardest difficulty, but I feel no need to go the ridiculous lengths that some trohpies require just to get them.

The only time I get annoyed with trophies/achievements is when they're tied to actual rewards like WoW has done. Having to do some obviously unusual in order to receive a better mount or item really turned me off.

Hmm well maybe I just made this thread out of impulse anger from an extensive trophy I was trying to get. I realized I actually don't pay attention to trophies while progressing through the game's first play-through. I kinda get mad when I don't get all the trophies :P

EDIT: It's that when games have trophies I HAVE to get them. I can't just get a few and move on. I can't lay a game to rest until I've gotten them all.

TheRedStrike

I hear ya. I was obsessed with achievements in WoW, and I suspect I'll also be a trophy whore :lol:

Maybe it's just me but I'm starting to feel like Trophies take away from games. I have some games that don't have trophies and it feels like I'm actually playing the game and enjoying it, as opposed to my other games WITH trophies, where I feel like I'm just working to get trophies. Obviously I know they are optional but I'm weird so I feel obligated to get the trophies in my games. What about you guys?

TheRedStrike

I feel the same.

They should at least add some prizes for earning the trophies. :P

yeah I guess it's expected for me, being an ex-Xbox 360 player and Achievement whore

yes I do. playing an online game is terrible when your teammates are too busy trying to get trophies rather than just playing the gawd damn game.

yes I do. playing an online game is terrible when your teammates are too busy trying to get trophies rather than just playing the gawd damn game.

paperdollparade

yes I do. playing an online game is terrible when your teammates are too busy trying to get trophies rather than just playing the gawd damn game.

paperdollparade

Maybe it's just me but I'm starting to feel like Trophies take away from games. I have some games that don't have trophies and it feels like I'm actually playing the game and enjoying it, as opposed to my other games WITH trophies, where I feel like I'm just working to get trophies. Obviously I know they are optional but I'm weird so I feel obligated to get the trophies in my games. What about you guys?

TheRedStrike

EDIT: No game need MP trophies, I think. Trophies are for single player only. Someone may not have even internet connection...

I think trophies have created a lot of fake gamers who are just jumping on the "video games are cool" bandwagon. Because they feel they need "a reason" to play most games in the first place.

I don't mind trophies they add some replay to games.

I strongly disapprove trophies/achievements :

- it makes a non needed competition between players, but that's the M$ spirit "I pwn you, noob" ; general "trophies" like "finished the game", or "played 100 hours" would be enough to know if a player liked the game and played it much

- most gold and platinum are impossible to achieve for most players, being too time hungry (I played Prince of Persia for 35+ hours and could never find the last orb ... just for one bronze???)

- it allows game developers to compensate for the lack of game time in new games, by adding "things to do" (most of which don't mean anything) ; it's an element I hate, I like to play a game the way I want, not killing mobs or killing all some days, or doing this side missioon instead of that one

TheTenth10

Since when is competition a bad thing? It's human nature

Of course it is to hard obtain gold and platinum trophies, that is there entire purpose of existance

How is adding something new to do a lack of game time? That point makes no sense

The only thing taking away from games this gen is DLC

I like them a lot, it makes the game last longer which is good since I don't have many.

Yeah they take away from games but the ding of that platinum still gets me wet :roll:

They make you want to play a game again sooner, but for me seeing the credits is all the achievment I need. I feel a sense of pride seeing those credits I don't feel proud getting trophies

They make you want to play a game again sooner, but for me seeing the credits is all the achievment I need. I feel a sense of pride seeing those credits I don't feel proud getting trophies

Cruse34

I think Trophies are an excellent addition. I could care less about the competitive factor, it's about how you approach it.

I remember when Achievements came out when I used to play WoW, and I loved it. I loved doing all these extra things, finding new things out about the game, as well as being given new challenges to conquer. Let's face it, once we beat a game once it goes back on the shelf afterwards, unless it has multiplayer. Sure, some games have NG+, and a select few games have left such an impression on some of us that once we beat it, we played through it again, just to partake in its awesomeness.Trophies are merely a way to give extra bang for your buck.

What's hilarious is people complaining about them, acting like they're mandatory. They're not, it's completely up to the individual if they want to pursue them or not. And just because they don't like trophies somehow gives them the right to label those who do as elitists. Again; they're optional. If you don't like 'em, don't do 'em, but don't try and attach a profound negative meaning to them.

That's pretty juvenile, complaining about extra features that our favorite game companies added to their games. Just smile, say thank you, and shaddup.

Khadaj32

Exactly

Hmm well maybe I just made this thread out of impulse anger from an extensive trophy I was trying to get. I realized I actually don't pay attention to trophies while progressing through the game's first play-through. I kinda get mad when I don't get all the trophies :P

EDIT: It's that when games have trophies I HAVE to get them. I can't just get a few and move on. I can't lay a game to rest until I've gotten them all.

TheRedStrike

Of course not, just because you may not like them doesn't mean everyone else feels the same way. It would be unfair to remove them for that reason.

I wish Sony would hurry up and release an update where you could switch off Trophy notifications, that way threads like this wouldn't exist anymore because you could just forget about trophies alltogether while the people who like trophies can just keep on collecting. Everyone wins.

Actually, I'm disappointed when a game doesn't have trophies (ie MGS4, WTF?), they're fun to collect and add a lot of replay.enterawesome

I don't know. I find that whole "replay" claim rather empty. You don't gain anything at all and you're going to be replaying the game (if you liked it) anyways.

How can trophies take away from a game? If you don't care for them, don't pursue them, if you like them they add more replay value and a sense of acheivement. I don't get how people can complain about an optional extra.

Nah, i play games for the games, not for the trophies. But yeah i also feel like that sometimes whilst playing some games.

Seroiusly i dont like trophies at all and i didnt even seen my achievements yet for years..Just play the games.Whats the big deal with trophies?No prizes no nothing.

No. They don't make you get them...

I really don't care about trophies, but they don't annoy me either. Though they can be distracting when you're in the middle of some huge battle and you want to read what stupid trophy you got, and you get killed because you're not paying attention to the game for a couple of seconds. I've been playing racing games lately, like GT5 Prologue and Grid, neither of which have trophies. Which seems kind of odd because in real life, you do get trophies for racing, but you don't for spending money at stores or pulling off a certain number of headshots or whatever.

I think they add replay value. AC I didn't bother trying to get all the flags, but in AC2 I went out looking for all the feathers. Same with R&C ToD no trophies meant I played through it once and put it on my shelf. Just because games don't have them doesn't mean those games suck or aren't worth playing. It's just that myself and other gamers find added incentive for going back and playing games on the highest setting, or finding all of something, or whatever.

I think trophies are great because it sucks buyin a game even if its a great game and u only get like 7 hours of play time out of it, but with trophies if u like the game u mite play it again to get them makin the replay value go up and u get more time for ur money. like i like resistance FOM but only played it once through, where as i also like resistance 2 and i played it 3 times through, they make ur money go further.