Anyone who doesnt like the Dissidia demo?

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#51 drummer131
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the lines for cloud and sepiroth are so depressing. why are they so emo. "i won't sleep well tonight". they could have come up with better lines for him than these. too many emo one liners.

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I'm guessing this comes from post-AC Cloud. He's done fighting. He wants to just settle down and live out a normal life. I'm guessing that "I won't sleep well tonight." comes from this, meaning he had hoped he wouldn't have to return to the act of fighting and it won't rest well on his conscience.
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#52 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]Downloading it now. Still dont get this game, or the damn hype behind it. Seems pretty dumb to medrummer131
Are you a fan of Final Fantasy? Well, this is a FF-themed fighting game. I don't suppose this would interest anyone without a gaming history with the franchise.

Agreed, it's very much a fan service title.
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#53 drummer131
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demo was awful , the problem with the ff series is that it has too many die hard fans,

se could put out a turd with ff branded on the side of it and some would rave how great it is

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The actual game has a lot more to it. With demos, they never put all the aspects into it.
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#55 Barbie_Boy
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If you dont get Final Fantasy and never played one, then gtfo and play Halo or something. You're the one who's dumb. FF is one of the best RPG series to have ever existed and Dissidia is only meant for fans.DarcKage

this made me smile

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#56 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="DarcKage"] If you dont get Final Fantasy and never played one, then gtfo and play Halo or something. You're the one who's dumb. FF is one of the best RPG series to have ever existed and Dissidia is only meant for fans.Barbie_Boy

this made me smile

Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.
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#57 Luigi12901
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Are the demos on the PSN free, or do you have to pay for them? (Don't have my PSP yet so I don't know)

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#58 drummer131
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Are the demos on the PSN free, or do you have to pay for them? (Don't have my PSP yet so I don't know)

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I believe all the demos are free. It's only when you dive into the downloadable PSP games and the PS1 classics that you have to pay for game content. And might I add, if you go about downloading content from the PSN by using the PSP-to-PC USB cable, it's a heck of a lot faster than using wireless internet. At least for me.
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#59 Luigi12901
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[QUOTE="Luigi12901"]

Are the demos on the PSN free, or do you have to pay for them? (Don't have my PSP yet so I don't know)

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I believe all the demos are free. It's only when you dive into the downloadable PSP games and the PS1 classics that you have to pay for game content. And might I add, if you go about downloading content from the PSN by using the PSP-to-PC USB cable, it's a heck of a lot faster than using wireless internet. At least for me.

Thanks for the info. I'll probably go PSP-PC for downloading, not sure if my wireless will work.

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#60 DarcKage
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[QUOTE="Barbie_Boy"]

[QUOTE="DarcKage"] If you dont get Final Fantasy and never played one, then gtfo and play Halo or something. You're the one who's dumb. FF is one of the best RPG series to have ever existed and Dissidia is only meant for fans.MorbidToaster

this made me smile

Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.

Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.
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#61 Barbie_Boy
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Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.MorbidToaster

not that part :P

I smiled because he made it sound like all FF games is a golden egg of perfection.

he also said "then gtfo and play Halo" just like he makes fun of halo fanboys when he is clearly a FF fanboy

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#62 pikastar
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I loved it. The combat is so much fun. Btw, the demo does not have all of the moves for each character I believe, for those who are complained about the lack of different attacks. The full game is going to have a lot more going for it then what was offered in the demo including customizable characters and equipment, a 40+ hour story mode, unlockable items, and the ability to edit your fights into videos.

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#63 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"][QUOTE="Barbie_Boy"]

this made me smile

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Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.

Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.

This being your second post, I'm going to call you a troll. Cloud is one of the most unlikeable characters from the Final Fantasy series, and I've played every Final Fantasy game. I love the FF series, but there are other good games too. Just because you're not an FF fanboy, doesn't mean you can't enjoy a good fighting game.

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#65 magitekk
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[QUOTE="DarcKage"][QUOTE="MorbidToaster"][QUOTE="Barbie_Boy"]

this made me smile

MorbidToaster

Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.

Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.

I've actually noticed that people who aren't hardcore fans of the FF series actually prefer cloud over many other characters...I can only guess because these people don't get to know other FF characters and because maybe (to them) cloud looks cooler than the earlier characters. Heck, with as popular as FFVII is, maybe those people never even get the chance to look into other FF games.

...I guess I went a bit off on that, sorry ^_^;

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#66 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"]

[QUOTE="DarcKage"] Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.magitekk

Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.

I've actually noticed that people who aren't hardcore fans of the FF series actually prefer cloud over many other characters...I can only guess because these people don't get to know other FF characters and because maybe (to them) cloud looks cooler than the earlier characters. Heck, with as popular as FFVII is, maybe those people never even get the chance to look into other FF games.

...I guess I went a bit off on that, sorry ^_^;

No, people that haven't played much FF do tend to lean towards FF 7, simply because there's been so much from this game. Advent Children FF 7 (Original) Crisis Core The focus of 7 characters in the Dissidia demo. It's a bit ridiculous. Personally, I prefer Zack in the FF 7 universe. Crisis Core was excellent. I'm actually really excited about the inclusion of an FF XI character in Dissidia.
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#67 DarcKage
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[QUOTE="DarcKage"][QUOTE="MorbidToaster"] Smile in an uncomfortable way? lol This game is only for fans, if you're not a fan get out mentality is stupid.MorbidToaster

Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.

This being your second post, I'm going to call you a troll. Cloud is one of the most unlikeable characters from the Final Fantasy series, and I've played every Final Fantasy game. I love the FF series, but there are other good games too. Just because you're not an FF fanboy, doesn't mean you can't enjoy a good fighting game.

So you're judging me on my number of posts? This is my first time on the Gamespot forums and I made a account to react to that guy who wants to play Dissidia even though he doesnt know any characters or FF whatsoever and then proceeds to call it stupid. Also, Cloud isnt exactly unlikeable. Maybe for people who can only see him as a whiny emo.
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#68 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"]

[QUOTE="DarcKage"] Not stupid at all. People who dont know anything about it can only bash it and not understand the hype/greatness behind it. 'Hurr, FF is stupid, Cloud is so emo i hate him durr'. As such, these people must be driven off and play their own lame games.DarcKage

This being your second post, I'm going to call you a troll. Cloud is one of the most unlikeable characters from the Final Fantasy series, and I've played every Final Fantasy game. I love the FF series, but there are other good games too. Just because you're not an FF fanboy, doesn't mean you can't enjoy a good fighting game.

So you're judging me on my number of posts? This is my first time on the Gamespot forums and I made a account to react to that guy who wants to play Dissidia even though he doesnt know any characters or FF whatsoever and then proceeds to call it stupid. Also, Cloud isnt exactly unlikeable. Maybe for people who can only see him as a whiny emo.

Well, he is kind of a whiny emo. :3 I don't like him personally, but lots of other people do. And yes, I was judging you by post number simply because your first post was in this thread, and it was meant to attack someone.
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#69 Barbie_Boy
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cloud IS annoying.

ANYONE who says "I wont be able to sleep tonight" after winning a battle is just O.o

lets not forget how in consisted his attitude is, one moment he says his normal emo things then he suddenly says "you should have seen it coming"

I mean common O.o 1 second he whines and the next second he speaks like he is the king of the world^^

but hey, he got a bigg ass sword so he is awsome :P

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#70 MorbidToaster
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cloud IS annoying.

ANYONE who says "I wont be able to sleep tonight" after winning a battle is just O.o

lets not forget how in consisted his attitude is, one moment he says his normal emo things then he suddenly says "you should have seen it coming"

I mean common O.o 1 second he whines and the next second he speaks like he is the king of the world^^

but hey, he got a bigg ass sword so he is awsome :P

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Golbez has a big CHAIN sword. Totally trumps Cloud's buster sword.
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#71 magitekk
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[QUOTE="Barbie_Boy"]

cloud IS annoying.

ANYONE who says "I wont be able to sleep tonight" after winning a battle is just O.o

lets not forget how in consisted his attitude is, one moment he says his normal emo things then he suddenly says "you should have seen it coming"

I mean common O.o 1 second he whines and the next second he speaks like he is the king of the world^^

but hey, he got a bigg ass sword so he is awsome :P

MorbidToaster

Golbez has a big CHAIN sword. Totally trumps Cloud's buster sword.

Garland also has a fat sword (not sure if it's as long as Cloud's, but I know it's thicker.)

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#72 Barbie_Boy
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who cares about chain sword (it is better then gun blade) but still, the real deal is always better

EDIT: maybe I jsut missed it, dont garland have chain sword? dosent golbez use magic

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I don't want to trigger a whole "Cloud love/hate" argument, but personally, I dislike this decade's introduction of the word "emo" in general to describe people who are openly exhibitors of their emotions. Granted, yes, sometimes the term fits the situation, but there are other, probably more polite ways of saying what you mean to say. Anyone who's played enough of the FFVII games knows that Cloud has had it rough. He probably would have come out a completely different person if he never signed up with Shinra in the first place. To just dismiss him as a good main FF character because he's a "whiny emo" (urgh, that phrase annoys me so much) is really silly, I think. Squall was totally apathetic for a good long time and then he's a lot more likable by the end of VIII...and most people really like him too.


People might not consider VII their all-time favorite RPG or FF anymore, but that doesn't mean it's no longer a really great FF or RPG. I don't understand why it is that in order to like or love any particular Final Fantasy games, we have to also hate on at least one Final Fantasy game. The series has always been high quality and continues to be high quality and groundbreaking. Try to remember that.

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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"][QUOTE="Barbie_Boy"]

cloud IS annoying.

ANYONE who says "I wont be able to sleep tonight" after winning a battle is just O.o

lets not forget how in consisted his attitude is, one moment he says his normal emo things then he suddenly says "you should have seen it coming"

I mean common O.o 1 second he whines and the next second he speaks like he is the king of the world^^

but hey, he got a bigg ass sword so he is awsome :P

magitekk

Golbez has a big CHAIN sword. Totally trumps Cloud's buster sword.

Garland also has a fat sword (not sure if it's as long as Cloud's, but I know it's thicker.)

just casue you hear your mom talking like this doesnt mean you should come here and talk like this
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That was a horrible demo, i deleted it after a few minutes of playing it. FF nerds only.

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#76 DarcKage
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That was a horrible demo, i deleted it after a few minutes of playing it. FF nerds only.

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Such a ignorant simpleton. Anyways, to get back on the subject. Yeah, people use the term 'emo' to describe people like Cloud way too much nowadays. Anyone who has played through Crisis Core/FF7 (Which I'm both playing and replaying atm) knows what Cloud went through and why he is like he is. As such, Cloud is still one of my favorite main FF characters. (Squall >> Cloud >> Zidane >> Tidus >> others for me). Was thinking of maining him too but I'm not sure yet, since he's a very easy character to use and all.
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Bleh, in my own little world where it'll probably only be me, my younger brother, and whomever of his friends that own a PSP, it won't matter that I might end up maining characters that are on the easy side in general to master. Come to think of it, I don't think I'd be able to determine one way or the other because I've only played the demo. But I have to say at this point, I'm anxious to play as Cloud, Squall, Tidus, and Kuja.
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I don't want to trigger a whole "Cloud love/hate" argument, but personally, I dislike this decade's introduction of the word "emo" in general to describe people who are openly exhibitors of their emotions. Granted, yes, sometimes the term fits the situation, but there are other, probably more polite ways of saying what you mean to say. Anyone who's played enough of the FFVII games knows that Cloud has had it rough. He probably would have come out a completely different person if he never signed up with Shinra in the first place. To just dismiss him as a good main FF character because he's a "whiny emo" (urgh, that phrase annoys me so much) is really silly, I think. Squall was totally apathetic for a good long time and then he's a lot more likable by the end of VIII...and most people really like him too.


People might not consider VII their all-time favorite RPG or FF anymore, but that doesn't mean it's no longer a really great FF or RPG. I don't understand why it is that in order to like or love any particular Final Fantasy games, we have to also hate on at least one Final Fantasy game. The series has always been high quality and continues to be high quality and groundbreaking. Try to remember that.

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I agree with you. I hate the word emo with every fiber of my being especially when its linked to Cloud. If people can not fully understand what the character has gone through, why he is the way he is, and how much he has changed through the course of the games/movie then thats their own fault. Cloud is not emo.

I also dislike the fact that people say you arent a hardcore FF fan if you prefer FFVII to the other games. It is extremely rude to group together people you know nothing about. I have played all of the FF games except FFV, I love them all for different reasons but to this day FFVII is still my favorite. Everyone has a different taste and we should respect that.

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#79 Barbie_Boy
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I play FF7 and I understand what ya mean BUT, shouldent cloud burden be over by now, havent it been like 3 years after FF7? that why I call him EMO. his issues SHOULD been over in FF7 so in AC/this game you could see him in action and HOW he is as a person AFTER this.

let not forget that the writing in seven wasent the best so it somtimes just made it sound bad^^

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People tend to forget (sometimes conveniently in favor of hating) that he was a pretty cool guy in the game. A jerk at first, actually crossdressed to save a girl, made fun of people and had cool lines (see below). His depressive state was normal in lenght during the game, and once he overcame it he became a cool leader and was anxious to defeat the big bad guy and end all the crap. All the so-called emo things came from Advent Children, where his mood and general state was totally different from FF7's finale. But no one gives a crap since they either have bad memory, think of it as a useful source to prove how ff7 is worse than *insert favourite rpg* or are rabid fangirls. Cool Cloud quotes taken from imdb, hope some of you have your memories fresh enough to remember them: Cloud Strife: [to Barrett] You look like a bear wearing a marshmallow. Yuffie: C'mon Cloud say something... Cloud: ...something. Tifa: Did you sleep well, Cloud? Cloud: Next to you, who wouldn't? Cloud Strife: All right, everyone, let's mosey. Cid Highwind: Damn! Again! Stop sayin' it like a wimp! Can't you say 'Move out!' or somethin'? Cloud Strife: Move out! Cloud Strife: I'm goin' upstairs, I wanna talk about my money! Aeris: You remember me? Cloud Strife: Yeah, you're the slum drunk. Cloud Strife: Whoa! Finger! What the hell? Tifa Lockheart: You see that, Cloud? Cloud Strife: The girl in the bikini? Yuffie Kisaragi: Thinkin' of running away? Stay and fight! FIGHT, I said! C'mon... What's the matter? You're pretty scared of me, huh? Cloud Strife: [sarcastically] ... petrified.
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I didn't like the demo.
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#82 Mr_Tonylope
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I didn't like the demo.aznstyle11

:o ... Well actually that's completely understandable, sure I like and think it's great, but it's not for everyone and you're entitled to your own opinion.

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[QUOTE="drummer131"]

I don't want to trigger a whole "Cloud love/hate" argument, but personally, I dislike this decade's introduction of the word "emo" in general to describe people who are openly exhibitors of their emotions. Granted, yes, sometimes the term fits the situation, but there are other, probably more polite ways of saying what you mean to say. Anyone who's played enough of the FFVII games knows that Cloud has had it rough. He probably would have come out a completely different person if he never signed up with Shinra in the first place. To just dismiss him as a good main FF character because he's a "whiny emo" (urgh, that phrase annoys me so much) is really silly, I think. Squall was totally apathetic for a good long time and then he's a lot more likable by the end of VIII...and most people really like him too.


People might not consider VII their all-time favorite RPG or FF anymore, but that doesn't mean it's no longer a really great FF or RPG. I don't understand why it is that in order to like or love any particular Final Fantasy games, we have to also hate on at least one Final Fantasy game. The series has always been high quality and continues to be high quality and groundbreaking. Try to remember that.

pikastar

I also dislike the fact that people say you arent a hardcore FF fan if you prefer FFVII to the other games. It is extremely rude to group together people you know nothing about. I have played all of the FF games except FFV, I love them all for different reasons but to this day FFVII is still my favorite. Everyone has a different taste and we should respect that.

^OMG, this too. What the heck is UP with that! All it takes to be a hardcore FF fan is to be in love with multiple FF games, like you've fallen hard for the series and you're always impatiently waiting for the next installment. Anything on top of that (having played half or more of the main titles, owning at least one soundtrack on CD, etc. etc.) is icing. There really is no need or place for it. Because all it does is trigger these absolutely illogical and unintelligent arguments about which characters are better than others, which games are better than others (and we all know both of those topics are completely subjective) and each person ends up defending their favorites with their lives and they don't need to. Like what you like, love what you love.

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#84 pikastar
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I play FF7 and I understand what ya mean BUT, shouldent cloud burden be over by now, havent it been like 3 years after FF7? that why I call him EMO. his issues SHOULD been over in FF7 so in AC/this game you could see him in action and HOW he is as a person AFTER this.

let not forget that the writing in seven wasent the best so it somtimes just made it sound bad^^

Barbie_Boy

He did get over it at the end of FFVII. Cloud moved on with his life and was actually happy, which can be seen in the Novel that comes in the Limited Edition of AC as well as the new scenes in Advent Children Complete. In Advent Children Complete, he has once again blocked himself off from the world but not because of past events. He leaves to try to find a cure for the Geostigma and he is upset that he can not help his family in his current state.

Dissidia is not after AC, it is an alternate universe, like FF characters in KH. The characters are suppose to mimic their story/personality from their original games. Which is why Cloud is the way he is.

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#85 pooyanh
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Is this thread about Dissidia or Cloud and other FF characters? If it's the latter I wanna state that:

Zack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all

Good day.

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#86 MorbidToaster
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Is this thread about Dissidia or Cloud and other FF characters? If it's the latter I wanna state that:

Zack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all

Good day.

pooyanh

I agree, kinda getting off topic here. Also, Zack is the best 7 character, by far...But overall I really like Squall, I really wish I could play him in the demo.

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#87 magitekk
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Is this thread about Dissidia or Cloud and other FF characters? If it's the latter I wanna state that:

Zack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all

Good day.

pooyanh

Yeah, seems more about Cloud than anything...and about Zack, I'm not going to say anything about your opinion there, because I'm not that type of person. In response to some of the other messages I've read, yes, it is possible to still prefer FFVII even if you've played all of the other games. It's one of the highest rated (9.5 on here I think)

Although FFVI is my favorite, (8.9) I noticed that FFIV, before it was remade for the DS, was an 8.3 (If I remember correctly) but with better graphics and cutscenes added in, the DS version was bumped up to a 9.0 (.7 points)

If that's so, then if FFVI were remade on the DS (or higher) wouldn't it get around a 9.5-9.6 like FFVII?

Sorry if that didn't have much relevence to this, but I guess everyone went off-topic a long time ago :P

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#88 drummer131
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Yeah, we did get off-topic. But with most topics relating to Dissidia, there seem to always be character/game arguments. We were just discussing the arguments themselves and how silly they are.