Bayonetta Whos Fault is it for the bad port?

Bayonetta Who's Fault is it for the crappy port?

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=17470

SEGA: Sega, was heavily criticized for the poor port when the demo was first shown at the trade shows. With Bayonetta under the gun, Sega should have stepped up their efforts to make the game a perfect port. However, the retail version suggests that Sega simply wasn't interested in saving face. The performances are almost polar. They proved that not only were they not interested in spending extra money to ensure quality, but also that they're quite fine with ripping off the public by charging the same amount for an inferior copy.

PlatinumGames: But is it just as much Platinum Games Fault as it is SEGA's? Platinum Games were obviously happy with the job SEGA had done to port their game across to the PS3, otherwise they surely would have not released it, they have also stated that they have overseen both versions back in September. However Platinum Games continued silence over the matter is very disconcerting & ultimately detrimental to their name as an independent games developer. http://forums.platinumgames.com/showthread.php?t=649&page=34

Sony: Sony should have stepped in for quality control. You can only blame the publishers for so long before you start wondering why a company would allow for a poor port to be on their console. It's a simple concept know as quality control.

Comparisons

Ps3: Unstable 30FPS. Xbox 360: 60FPS

Ps3: 42% of torn frames. Xbox 360: 13% of torn frames

Ps3: Washed Graphics. Xbox 360: More Sharp colourful

Ps3: No install option. Xbox 360: Install

Ps3: Load times on everything including pause and Items. Xbox 360: 1/3 the load times between stages no load times on items or pause.

Can we really say Platinum Games is at fault. After all theydidn't really have the intention of developing a PS3 port. Sega is the one who insisted they work on the port,BTW I haven't played the PS3 port is it really that bad?

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

Can we really say Platinum Games is at fault. After all theydidn't really have the intention of developing a PS3 port. Sega is the one who insisted they work on the port,BTW I haven't played the PS3 port is it really that bad?

jasonharris48

Naw it isnt too bad at all.

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

KapG

We should still be grateful that it made it on the ps3. Arctic_Grillz

Wow. So PS3 owners should be grateful that companies are trying to sell them a game? Should someone send EA the memo to drop Madden on the PS3 back to 30fps? And obviously Lost Planet on the PS3 was good enough for them as well, right? I mean it's not like they wanted a little thing called money.

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

KapG

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

[QUOTE="KapG"]

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

Shielder7

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

load screens ? Can't see how load screens can be so called "game breaking"

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

[QUOTE="KapG"]

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

load screens ? Can't see how load screens can be so called "game breaking"

[QUOTE="KapG"]

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

jt4mtb

load screens ? Can't see how load screens can be so called "game breaking"

Oh ok. Thanks for your opinion too.

Lol, how could it be Sony's fault? Why is that option even available? They have nothing to do with the game.

Anyway, while it's completely playable, and still an incredible game, it is annoying how Sega are just covering their ears and acting like nothing's wrong. Any other publisher would have started on a patch or something by now.

I don't think a bad port is the problem. It's just not a good game to start with.

I don't think a bad port is the problem. It's just not a good game to start with.

NeoMerlin

Yep, all of the critics across the world are wrong. What was every one of them thinking?

How about no one?

Sega.

How about a harder question next time?

I say that falt is on SAGA!

[QUOTE="NeoMerlin"]

I don't think a bad port is the problem. It's just not a good game to start with.

amsfm6

Yep, all of the critics across the world are wrong. What was every one of them thinking?

:D That's why Twilight is such a good book. Thanks for reminding me! I'll know better than to have an opinion of my own from now on and just get my thoughts spoon fed to me.

no its not that bad

the only thing tou will notice is the loading times

but game is really fun i tell ya

Wow, how is there any more than 0 people who voted for Platinum?

It was Sega's fault that the port was bad, but if they weren't such a multi-platform company, PS3 owners wouldn't have been playing the game in the first place.

Does it matter when its still good

Bad port? I haven't personally played Xbox 360 version of the game however the PS3 version plays great.

I haven't seen any frame rate problems during the whole game, both myself and my friend finished the game and enjoyed it. Other then 1-2 seconds load screen when you pick up power-ups or items there is nothing wrong with the game..

You want a bad port? Play Orange Box... Bayonetta is great game and this so called 'bad port' is blown out of proportion..

When I hear people saying that "Sony is at fault because they have to control..." I start to laugh my a.. out...

Sony has nothing to do with anything about this game and, if you remember, CONTROL was the reason
almost EVERYBODY left Nintendo an went with Sony in the first place! Nintendo, with their "Seal of
approval" was controlling TOO MUCH of the publishers time and resources.

Yes, the games were good (not all) but this additional presure make the publishers mad. If Sony starts
to make the same, what would you think the publishers will do?

F.

Bad port? I haven't personally played Xbox 360 version of the game however the PS3 version plays great.

I haven't seen any frame rate problems during the whole game, both myself and my friend finished the game and enjoyed it. Other then 1-2 seconds load screen when you pick up power-ups or items there is nothing wrong with the game..

You want a bad port? Play Orange Box... Bayonetta is great game and this so called 'bad port' is blown out of proportion..

Sokol4ever

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[QUOTE="NeoMerlin"]

I don't think a bad port is the problem. It's just not a good game to start with.

NeoMerlin

Yep, all of the critics across the world are wrong. What was every one of them thinking?

:D That's why Twilight is such a good book. Thanks for reminding me! I'll know better than to have an opinion of my own from now on and just get my thoughts spoon fed to me.

I just think it's funny when someone calls a game bad when it's gotten universal rave reviews as well as widespread admiration from the fans. You can have an opinion. You can say "I didn't enjoy it" or "I didn't like the game", but calling it bad (sorry not good), you're just trying to piss people off.

I've never read Twilight, but did you ever think that maybe it could be really good, and you're just not the intended audience? I don't think it was a big critical success anyway, so that example doesn't really work.

Yeah honestly, who cares. The port isn't even as bad as they said it would be.

Yeah honestly, who cares. The port isn't even as bad as they said it would be.

King-Tigre

Yeah it's worse

[QUOTE="Sokol4ever"]

Bad port? I haven't personally played Xbox 360 version of the game however the PS3 version plays great.

I haven't seen any frame rate problems during the whole game, both myself and my friend finished the game and enjoyed it. Other then 1-2 seconds load screen when you pick up power-ups or items there is nothing wrong with the game..

You want a bad port? Play Orange Box... Bayonetta is great game and this so called 'bad port' is blown out of proportion..

Shielder7

Links? Is that supposed to give me some kind of proof?

I have already stated that I haven't played Xbox 360 version however I don't know if you have set down, played and finished the game on PS3 to make such claims.

I have seen Bayonetta run on Gamespot, Gametrailers and IGN HD video reviews, previews and gameplay. I can tell you honestly, Bayonetta on PS3 plays great. There are no frame rate problems, at least not during my 14 hours of gameplay. I have said earlier that game has one to two second load when you pick up an item, which doesn't appear to be so in Xbox version and which is a plus. However, are you honestly telling my the 360 version is somehow miraculously super better??

I certainly haven't seen so, if you believe that's the truth - I have nothing against it, it's your opinion and I respect it.

But - do not spread false accusations that the game on PS3 somehow is horrible or unplayable.

The fact remains that it plays great and looks great. If you're into that kind of action genre, you don't own both consoles, PS3 version of Bayonetta is great...

How many times do I need to stress it out.. Make the judgements on your own.. use your brain and don't follow the so called "gaming journalism"...

The days of honest, non-biased video gaming writing is long gone.

The link is not biased and is a simple, straight-up technical comparison. It's fine and all if you paid the same price for a CLEARLY (not even close) inferior version and enjoyed it, but people have a right to not be OK with this swindle.skyrender4

Not even close inferior version? Are you serious?

You know what, I'm just going to stop making human arguments since all it does it falls on deaf ears. :roll:

[QUOTE="skyrender4"]The link is not biased and is a simple, straight-up technical comparison. It's fine and all if you paid the same price for a CLEARLY (not even close) inferior version and enjoyed it, but people have a right to not be OK with this swindle.Sokol4ever

Not even close inferior version? Are you serious?

You know what, I'm just going to stop making human arguments since all it does it falls on deaf ears. :roll:

[QUOTE="KapG"]

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

Shielder7

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

[QUOTE="Sokol4ever"]

[QUOTE="skyrender4"]The link is not biased and is a simple, straight-up technical comparison. It's fine and all if you paid the same price for a CLEARLY (not even close) inferior version and enjoyed it, but people have a right to not be OK with this swindle.skyrender4

Not even close inferior version? Are you serious?

You know what, I'm just going to stop making human arguments since all it does it falls on deaf ears. :roll:

Outside of false tries to sound educated, intelligent or mature for that matter - you sure know how to use personal attacks when none were directed at you.

By the way I guarantee you never seen PS3 version running side by side with 360 either. You can put the "good refutations" statement in the place where sun never shines.

[QUOTE="skyrender4"][QUOTE="Sokol4ever"]

Not even close inferior version? Are you serious?

You know what, I'm just going to stop making human arguments since all it does it falls on deaf ears. :roll:

Sokol4ever

Outside of false tries to sound educated, intelligent or mature for that matter - you sure know how to use personal attacks when none were directed at you.

By the way I guarantee you never seen PS3 version running side by side with 360 either. You can put the "good refutations" statement in the place where sun never shines.

other than the loading times, i dont see the problem. its not sonys fault at all. it wasnt even susposed to comer out for the ps3 in the first place from what ive been told.

and for the record...twilight was done better in 1987....it was called the lost boys.

[QUOTE="Shielder7"]

[QUOTE="KapG"]

the port isnt even that bad. I've copmpleted the first 7 chapters and the game looks great and plays great. Can't say I haev really had any laggy moments.

The only "downside" is that there are frequent loading screens, but even these aren't that bad

hiryu3

Ha ha ha just wait till you start getting nearer to the end it gets worse to the point of game breaking.

12FPS in a high speed action game isn't game breaking??!! Well were just going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

Also they said they were going to have a install patch but then decided against it once the game was released.

The link is not biased and is a simple, straight-up technical comparison. It's fine and all if you paid the same price for a CLEARLY (not even close) inferior version and enjoyed it, but people have a right to not be OK with this swindle.skyrender4

you created a new screen name just to troll on the ps3 boards with regards to bayonetta?

seems that way...

go troll elsewhere

Lol, how could it be Sony's fault? Why is that option even available? They have nothing to do with the game.

it is annoying how Sega are just covering their ears and acting like nothing's wrong. Any other publisher would have started on a patch or something by now.

amsfm6

It might be all of the above. I'm thinking Platinum Games just wanted to make Bayonetta only on the 360 but Sony wanted a piece and hired Sega to port it.

[QUOTE="amsfm6"]

[QUOTE="NeoMerlin"]

I don't think a bad port is the problem. It's just not a good game to start with.

NeoMerlin

Yep, all of the critics across the world are wrong. What was every one of them thinking?

:D That's why Twilight is such a good book. Thanks for reminding me! I'll know better than to have an opinion of my own from now on and just get my thoughts spoon fed to me.

Agreed! If I wanted to play a GoW/DMC rip starring a whore with a boring, cliche personality I'd play...well, I don't want to play that. I'll take Kratos and Dante, kthx.

But still, such a flawed port is kind of a fail on Sega's part. Like, is it difficult to do a good job? There's nothing but laziness there, any system wars arguments aside, they're both HD consoles, they're both capable of a similar quality, so why was one version without that quality? No excuse.

We should still be grateful that it made it on the ps3. Arctic_Grillz

Bayonetta Who's Fault is it for the crappy port?

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=17470

SAGA: Sega, was heavily criticized for the poor port when the demo was first shown at the trade shows. With Bayonetta under the gun, Sega should have stepped up their efforts to make the game a perfect port. However, the retail version suggests that Sega simply wasn't interested in saving face. The performances are almost polar. They proved that not only were they not interested in spending extra money to ensure quality, but also that they're quite fine with ripping off the public by charging the same amount for an inferior copy.

PlatinumGames: But is it just as much Platinum Games Fault as it is SEGA's? Platinum Games were obviously happy with the job SEGA had done to port their game across to the PS3, otherwise they surely would have not released it, they have also stated that they have overseen both versions back in September. However Platinum Games continued silence over the matter is very disconcerting & ultimately detrimental to their name as an independent games developer. http://forums.platinumgames.com/showthread.php?t=649&page=34

Sony: Sony should have stepped in for quality control. You can only blame the publishers for so long before you start wondering why a company would allow for a poor port to be on their console. It's a simple concept know as quality control.

Comparisons

Ps3: Unstable 30FPS. Xbox 360: 60FPS

Ps3: 42% of torn frames. Xbox 360: 13% of torn frames

Ps3: Washed Graphics. Xbox 360: More Sharp colourful

Ps3: No install option. Xbox 360: Install

Ps3: Load times on everything including pause and Items. Xbox 360: 1/3 the load times between stages no load times on items or pause.

Shielder7