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#1 Broman6015
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Maybe it is just me but when i watch a bluray movie it does not look that great. I was at best buy yesturday and they had a bluray player playing and as i was watching it i realized that my PS3 does not look anywhere near as good as this. So im wondering if there is some settings i need to tweak because its currently on all the defualt settings.

I have my PS3 set through HDMI playing on a 1080p 50' Panasonic plasma. So I dont think its my tv or anything. Also the only movies i have watched are Casino Royal and 300.

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uh...all i can say is that 300 naturally wont look amazing cus of the grain filter...
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Maybe it is just me but when i watch a bluray movie it does not look that great. I was at best buy yesturday and they had a bluray player playing and as i was watching it i realized that my PS3 does not look anywhere near as good as this. So im wondering if there is some settings i need to tweak because its currently on all the defualt settings.

I have my PS3 set through HDMI playing on a 1080p 50' Panasonic plasma. So I dont think its my tv or anything. Also the only movies i have watched are Casino Royal and 300.

Broman6015

Depends on movie. Some movies on BD looks exactly like the DVD versions of the same movie.

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#4 WongB
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I don't know, I've seen Talladega Nights, and Planet Earth and it looks spectacular. Its like I was at the dinner table with Ricky Bobby praying to Baby Jesus.
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#5 aaron6581230
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Turn on RGB for blu ray movies
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#6 NWA_31
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Just because your TV supports 1080p doesn't mean your PS3 is currently outputting it at the same resolution. Make sure that your PS3's output is set at 1080p as well.
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#7 Modbetto
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It's the TV dude......i have the same one...the TH....model......my friend just got a new 47" samsung......i kicks mine's @ss....

The tv is VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRy important....just cuz it's 1080p doesn't mean color, tint and contrast are gonna be great...

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Turn on RGB for blu ray moviesaaron6581230

what exactly does that do? excuse my ignorance...

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#9 Radiozo
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I don't know, I've seen Talladega Nights, and Planet Earth and it looks spectacular. Its like I was at the dinner table with Ricky Bobby praying to Baby Jesus.WongB

You must be kidding. Talladega Nights looks aweful for a BD. Its the same mpeg2 transfer thats on the DVD.

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#10 WongB
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Well that was probably because I was high at the time...maybe thats why it looked so good.
LOL
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#11 analog10
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BD looks great! Its your panel that lets it down.
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[QUOTE="WongB"]I don't know, I've seen Talladega Nights, and Planet Earth and it looks spectacular. Its like I was at the dinner table with Ricky Bobby praying to Baby Jesus.Radiozo

You must be kidding. Talladega Nights looks aweful for a BD. Its the same mpeg2 transfer thats on the DVD.

talladega nights did look pretty amazing. but also from the quote above what are some blu-ray movies that look the same as a dvd? any proof because i havent heard anything like this before.
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#13 RahKayne
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It's your settings, or most likely and unfortunately your tv.

Just because you have a lcd 1080p tv doesn't mean it's a good one. What exactly you don't like?

(Remember also that there are plasma's at Best Buy)

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Funny post, doesnt even qualify it with what kind of TV he is watching or if he saw it on a 7,000 television in the Magnolia room at Best Buy.

BD looks great in 1080P on my television. And no BD is going to look exactly like a DVD (480P), might resemble an upscaled DVD.

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Funny post, doesnt even qualify it with what kind of TV he is watching or if he saw it on a 7,000 television in the Magnolia room at Best Buy.

BD looks great in 1080P on my television. And no BD is going to look exactly like a DVD (480P), might resemble an upscaled DVD.

tkemory

well i did say what tv i am using. And the one i saw at best buy was not in the mangolia room. Just displayed near the BD movies. The tv was a samsung 40' 1080p lcd.

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This might help for the games...dunno about movies...sorry: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5JhlJsJaK5E
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#17 charomid
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whats the rbg that someone posted b4. i really wanna know also
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#18 rahul_batta
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A) make sure your tv is 1080p compatible

B) If you havent already you need an HDMI cable

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#19 svenskamerikan
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You didn't say what tv - you think Panasonic only makes one 50 inch tv??? Also didn't say what tv you compared to. This probably means you watched a torched up tv at BB and think that looks great.... no comments on that

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#20 K-Poulsen
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yeah do you have an hd cable because that would make a huge difference?
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#21 mrxdemix
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Depends on the movie and which cable you're using. HDMI + Pirates of the Caribbean = HOLY SMOKES.
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#22 Claw17k
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bluray down't look that good

Broman6015

you dont look that good

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#23 jaSteRdcX
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i havn't notcied that much of a difference of blu ray from dvd. I've watched kiss of the dragon it wasn't like spectacular but whatever.
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#24 jackle2071
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Blu-Ray is AWESOME! just watch anything by Stanly Kubrick! i just saw 2001 on Blu-Ray and OMFG! the movie is 30 years old and still looks better then most films out there today! also Clockwork Orange is full of colors! and looks amazing in HD!
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Some HDDVD's and BluRay DVD's are exact copies of the regular original DVDs. Basically, they change the format, but don't improve its quality. Make sense? Most new movies aren't like this, mainly just older movies. If you didn't know that, it's still true. Look it up yourselves. :) P.S. Movies that use BluRay technology to the full capacity that is possible now are noticeably better than those on HDDVD. It's simple...1080P vs. 1080i.
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#26 jackle2071
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Some HDDVD's and BluRay DVD's are exact copies of the regular original DVDs. Basically, they change the format, but don't improve its quality. Make sense? Most new movies aren't like this, mainly just older movies. If you didn't know that, it's still true. Look it up yourselves. :)bshaw84
yeah like the first gen of the fifth element and Full Metal Jacket. they where both just dvd copys with blu-ray slaped on. but both verstion as far as i know have been remade to be full HD
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Ok so what? No one said it looks a billion times better than anything.
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#28 VengenceZero
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Maybe it is just me but when i watch a bluray movie it does not look that great. I was at best buy yesturday and they had a bluray player playing and as i was watching it i realized that my PS3 does not look anywhere near as good as this. So im wondering if there is some settings i need to tweak because its currently on all the defualt settings.

I have my PS3 set through HDMI playing on a 1080p 50' Panasonic plasma. So I dont think its my tv or anything. Also the only movies i have watched are Casino Royal and 300.

Broman6015

well I know for a fact, because I worked at best buy, the Blu ray stand alone player puts out a better picture than the PS3's version.

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#29 abdelmessih101
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This might help for the games...dunno about movies...sorry: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5JhlJsJaK5Elilsmuck18

and now its linked

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#30 Sr2okidD
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Some HDDVD's and BluRay DVD's are exact copies of the regular original DVDs. Basically, they change the format, but don't improve its quality. Make sense? Most new movies aren't like this, mainly just older movies. If you didn't know that, it's still true. Look it up yourselves. :)bshaw84
i can tell you a movie that is not like that, Superman II, when compared side by side... its night and day
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i havn't notcied that much of a difference of blu ray from dvd. I've watched kiss of the dragon it wasn't like spectacular but whatever.Jaster_DCX

Are you kidding me? When people post this nonsense it makes me think they need to get their eyes checked. Everyone that has seen a HD movie or Game at my house can "tell the difference" most of us can even tell the difference between 720P and 1080P, but whatever.

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#32 the_animals
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maybe you should just set the ps3 to 1080i or 720p and see if theres a difference.
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#33 smellati
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what kind of tv did you see it on at the store? It could possibly be the tv is better than yours. We always put the highest end tv's with bluray to really show there quality at my store.
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#34 Tubatica
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[QUOTE="Broman6015"]

Maybe it is just me but when i watch a bluray movie it does not look that great. I was at best buy yesturday and they had a bluray player playing and as i was watching it i realized that my PS3 does not look anywhere near as good as this. So im wondering if there is some settings i need to tweak because its currently on all the defualt settings.

I have my PS3 set through HDMI playing on a 1080p 50' Panasonic plasma. So I dont think its my tv or anything. Also the only movies i have watched are Casino Royal and 300.

VengenceZero

well I know for a fact, because I worked at best buy, the Blu ray stand alone player puts out a better picture than the PS3's version.

Based on my local Best Buy, I'm not sure working there adds or detracts from one's opinion/knowledge of technology. No offense intended, its just that my local BB is full of salespeople and not experts on TV's. BTW, my Blu-rays look fantastic on my Sammy with the PS3. I think you should just go over to AVS forums and look for specific info on your TV. Someone had a very detailed post on exact settings for the TV AND the PS3 and every Blu-ray I have is far superior to its counterpart on standard DVD. So just head to AVS and search for your TV and I'm sure that will improve your PQ. And as others have stated, some TV's will obviously not be as capable as others of displaying Blu-ray properly.

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#35 tkemory
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what kind of tv did you see it on at the store? It could possibly be the tv is better than yours. We always put the highest end tv's with bluray to really show there quality at my store.smellati

OP said he has a 1080P television, even on a bad one most movies will look good. problem is he has 300, which looks great but in a way is the anti-hd because it like Miami Vice is meant to look "grainy". I haven't seen Casino Royale on BR yet, mine is in the mail right now, so can't comment on it.

If you want to show off your BR system, get your hands on the Pirates movies, or Kingdom of Heaven.

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its a matter of factors that all need to come into play. the First on the list is your display/tv, even if you have a high end set you can still pull a bad picture out of it. The default setting most tvs come with usually suck, they have the contrast turned all the way up for a brighter display in the store. At home you do not need contrast set to 100%. then you have skin tones, saturation, hue, color temp, ec... You can eye ball the settings, use a thx dvd or dvd optimiser kit to set your set up or you can get the pros to do it for the best results.

then the source is next. It you have a native 1280x720p set and you feed it a 640x480 (sdtv) signal its going to look like crap. you tv will have to upscale the image to fill in the missing pixels. Some tvs do a great job at this and some suck at it. So you will all ways want your source signal to match or better your tv. with blu-ray you would want a 1080p tv. but a 720p set should be just as fine too.

still on the source here, just because its blu-ray doesn't mean you will be getting the best picture. This is more out of our hands. It has to do with how the movie wash shot, mastered then encoded and transfer to blu-ray. Some movies no matter what just wont look all that great in HD (more of an art style like added grain 300, or artifacts+grain grind house movies). then you have the video codec, (the form of compression used on the video) can affect the overall quality. I don't feel like getting into them but I will name and give links. MPEG-4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4 MPEG-2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2_VC-4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VC-1

Then you have the cable you use. you have HDMI (full digital) vs Component (analog). HDMI would be considered the best, don't let them fool you into thinking component is bad. If you have just an average tv and you are running 720p to 1080i component will do you just fine. HDMI is more the holy grail of video cables because of its all in 1 capabilities. before you had to have a 5 cable component and an digital optical or cox cable. That was a mess to hook up and just ugly behind anyones setup. you get all that out of 1 cable. It also can pass full HD 8 channel sound too. It also has hdmi 1.3 witch has more bandwidth and over one billion colors up from 16.7 million. but too take advantage of full Hd sound you will need a new far and few receivers with speakers worth thousands, to get billions of colors you will need a new Tv that doesn't even exist yet. you see where I going. I would say if you Have blu-ray and a 1080p tv get HDMI, If you got 720 get hdmi but don't spend too much, other wise component are fine.

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#37 hazuki
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Now parts of casino royale, won't look good as its grainy towards the begining. Though 300? Thats never going to look good on your tv, no matter what the *fanboy like?* ign review said.
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#38 Videodogg
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Some blu ray movies just are not mastered very well. I have been burned by many purchases recently. Typically only the most recent popular movies look really great, like Apacalypto, but other older titles like Robocop look like MUD. Its kind of a buyer beware sort of thing...try to avoid random purchases and lookup some reviews if you can find them.
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depends on the movie i hear that in places like BB/CC they tune the settings so its at the maximum picture quality that it can achieve
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#40 tbombrocks
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Most Blue Ray movies looks grainey in comparrision to HD dvd. I am running on a High end Sony 1080p. Hd looks better right now. The advantage is disk space on Blue ray, but the coding is much lower in comparrision.
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#41 swordfish_64
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I rented The Shining on blu-ray and watched it last night. For a 1980 movie, its amazing that itlooks better on blu-ray than brand new DVD's look. It makes a ton of difference to have a tv calibrated by a professional, there are even disks you can use to calibrate on your own.
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#42 dalscowboys22
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Most Blue Ray movies looks grainey in comparrision to HD dvd. I am running on a High end Sony 1080p. Hd looks better right now. The advantage is disk space on Blue ray, but the coding is much lower in comparrision.tbombrocks
wheres the proof. ive never heard of anything like this. the only blu-ray movie i have thats grainy is 300 and its supposed to be like that or whatever. so show me some proof that hd-dvd has less grain and that the coding is different because so far "the proof is in the pudding." that its not
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#43 shroom76
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the one at the store was significantly smaller probably and was lcd.

all i can say. try RGB like an above person said and tweak some settings, eitehr that or your way to picky

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#44 el_pablo65
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The tv was a samsung 40' 1080p lcd.Broman6015

Going to be hard to compete with a 40 foot monitor. Kidding aside, you never stated that you had an HDMI cable. 1080p to 1080p doesn't mean anything without that wire.

In my experience BD looks amazing and I only have the PS3 BD player. Most surprising is when they take older, analog shot, movies and still manage to make them sharper than they were originally. I was quite surprised with 5th Element in particular. You could still see the original analog film squibbles and imperfections yet it even they looked very sharp. I view my films on a low cost Spectre 42" LCD. Looks better than I thought it could and I went in quite skeptical (and sober).

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#45 MattyJ78
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???

Blue Ray movies look amazing on my 42" Toshiba 1080p LCD panel. Not sure exactly what your issue is.

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#46 Broman6015
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[QUOTE="Broman6015"] The tv was a samsung 40' 1080p lcd.el_pablo65

Going to be hard to compete with a 40 foot monitor. Kidding aside, you never stated that you had an HDMI cable. 1080p to 1080p doesn't mean anything without that wire.

In my experience BD looks amazing and I only have the PS3 BD player. Most surprising is when they take older, analog shot, movies and still manage to make them sharper than they were originally. I was quite surprised with 5th Element in particular. You could still see the original analog film squibbles and imperfections yet it even they looked very sharp. I view my films on a low cost Spectre 42" LCD. Looks better than I thought it could and I went in quite skeptical (and sober).

i said i had my PS3 set through an HDMI cable. Its right there in the OP

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#47 Broman6015
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Sorry for the lack of info.

this is my TV: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8501711&type=product&id=1186004963437

This is what i saw in the store: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8561479&type=product&id=1188561460115

I have not watched as many Bluray movies as some of you have so i guess im gonna have to try out some new ones Like Pirates of the Caribbean (that was actually the movie on display so this could be why i was amazed by its quality) Im just gonna mess with my TV settings later and see if i can get an improvment and maybe i am just picky. Also thanks to the person who posted the youtube link.

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#48 tkemory
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Broman6015,

Get yourself a subscription to Blockbuster or Netflix, both have Blu-ray for you to rent and compare. If you really want you can rent a DVD and Blu-ray of the same movie and compare, but stick with the newer stuff, because some of the older stuff doesn't look as good because of the compression/encoding that was used.

The older movies are very hit or miss because some just don't have enough data to make the jump to HD and you end up watching something that "looks" upscaled. Others like 2001 look just as good as some of the modern movies.

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#49 tryfe_lyn
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Man I got a good laugh outta this thread...you silly goose...:P
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#50 xooco
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Never, ever ever leave your tv at the default settings. Those "default settings" are made to show off the TV on big ass shelves with a 1000 more tvs right next to it. In your house you only have 1 tv and not that much light you need to CALIBRATE your tv.

It can be tedious and time consuming and even might take you a couple of days to get results that you are pleased with, but once you do even snoppy looks good.

Just do a Google search on "How to calibrate an HDTV" or search for your model number and see if someone has tips on doing it.