bluray doesn't look that good

Besides all the obvious calibration etc that are missed by some people you are also missing the fact that some movies are supposed to be more grainy. So why are they more grainy in HD format? - because they show up as they are supposed too...

I don't want to watch 300 and have it look like the latest show on the travel channel - you don't want that glossy real life look........

Besides all the obvious calibration etc that are missed by some people you are also missing the fact that some movies are supposed to be more grainy. So why are they more grainy in HD format? - because they show up as they are supposed too...

I don't want to watch 300 and have it look like the latest show on the travel channel - you don't want that glossy real life look........

svenskamerikan

[QUOTE="tbombrocks"]Most Blue Ray movies looks grainey in comparrision to HD dvd. I am running on a High end Sony 1080p. Hd looks better right now. The advantage is disk space on Blue ray, but the coding is much lower in comparrision.dalscowboys22

This was only the case in the very beginning when bluray was still using mpeg 2 encoding and HD-DVD was mostly using VC-1 encoding. Blu ray pretty much just uses AVC mpeg 4 and VC-1 for video encoding now, which took care of all the issues that where prevalent with mpeg 2 encoding. Now video transfers are identical between the two.

not all movies are created equal in picture quality,

also for hd dvd and blu rays, not all are transferred equally either.

heres a site where they actually do full reviews of blu ray movies.

check out the picture quality ratings, some are just crap while others are reference material

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/reviews.html

dont judge hd formats if you only watched one or two movies

watch 20-30 and youll see what hd can really do to movies.

to add

this is what the PQ of the two movies 300 and casino royale got from this review site.

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/653/casinoroyale.html

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/886/300.html

you my friend are blind then but thats your opionion

you my friend are blind then but thats your opionion

Xb0Xer

It helps to quote so we know who the heck you are talking to.

whats the RGB that someone posted b4. i really wanna know also charomid

RGB is color output using red-green-blue channels instead of magenta-cyan-green. The former is only possible through RGB, DVI, or HDMI cables due to the higher bandwidth. MCG is utilized in component cables to separate color channels to three cables instead of one since RCA cables don't have as much bandwidth. RGB in DVI and HDMI supports up to 82-bits of color per channel and 10-bits of alpha/extra data, analog RGB supports up to 24-bits per channel and 8-bits of alpha data, and component supports up to 8-bits per channel with no alpha data.

If someone needs to be convinced about how good Blu Ray looks show them Hairspray. 300 cant be taken seriously because of the grain filter and the fact that most of it is CGI. Hairspray looks so pure and clean. You'll be blown away. Great sound toosk8ter33157

I wouldn't run around telling people that you have seen "Hairspray"...

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you my friend are blind then but thats your opionion

ryank285

It helps to quote so we know who the heck you are talking to.

sorry i was talking about you...have you even watched a blu ray movie dude... because sure hd cable is good but most of it is in 1080I

It dont matter to me. All I know is Blu Ray pretty much the sure thing to be next now. And even if it was not. It would not make any change in how PS3 games will be made for the next 6 years. As nor did mini discs change how Gamecube games are made. All it will do is give developers the room needed to make the true epic next gen games, threw the mid to late years of this Gen.truenextgen

Your analogy is flawed in the fact that the Gamecube disc was a proprietary format developed for the sole purpose of holding Gamecube games and not developed as a multimedia format like Blu-Ray. The Gamecube disc was also an antipiracy measure for the non-standard size and the data was written in reverse.

Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.ryank285

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

[QUOTE="ryank285"][QUOTE="Xb0Xer"]

you my friend are blind then but thats your opionion

Xb0Xer

It helps to quote so we know who the heck you are talking to.

sorry i was talking about you...have you even watched a blu ray movie dude... because sure hd cable is good but most of it is in 1080I

Uh, yeah, i have. Maybe it's because i have a 61 inch TV... it is 1080p but anything a huge screen won't look quite as good compared to a smaller screen.

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.tkemory

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Maybe i like movies that don't show grain, whether or not it's intentional. Ever think of that?!?!? jk

[QUOTE="tkemory"]

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.ryank285

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Maybe i like movies that don't show grain, whether or not it's intentional. Ever think of that?!?!? jk

Guess what, if they show 300 on Cable, it will have the same grain.

On the contrary I reckon Blu-ray is great for movies & for games. Blu-ray is just ahead of it's time and when HD becomes the standard then Blu-ray will shine, you can clearly see a difference when you see Blu-ray & DVD side-to-side. On the games front Blu-ray is very helpful as mentioned by numerous devs most notably Kojima.

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.tkemory

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Yea and 2 years ago it was not 720 it was not even HD. Native now is 720. But cable is pushing 1080p and 1080i. Disc TV is bragging about 1080p. And that more is to come. The TV "and Hollywood" have made their line that their going to "and have made it vary clear! And its 1080p. And my point on Blu Ray was simple. PS3 will be in second at least, in the system wars in a year or so. And Blu Ray is next as far as movies go. HDDVD was a joke, and lost. So look better or not, Thats how its going to be. Theirs no flaw in that fact.

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bluray down't look that good

Claw17k

you dont look that good

lol, that guy just got OWNED

[QUOTE="tkemory"]

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.truenextgen

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Yea and 2 years ago it was not 720 it was not even HD. Native now is 720. But cable is pushing 1080p and 1080i. Disc TV is bragging about 1080p. And that more is to come. The TV "and Hollywood" have made their line that their going to "and have made it vary clear! And its 1080p. And my point on Blu Ray was simple. PS3 will be in second at least, in the system wars in a year or so. And Blu Ray is next as far as movies go. HDDVD was a joke, and lost. So look better or not, Thats how its going to be. Theirs no flaw in that fact.

Please clarify this, right now there is nothing in the US that is broadcasting a 1080P signal.

HD DVD hasn't lost and isnt any less viable of a format. My HD DVD movies look just as good as my blu-ray, so quit making ignorant statements. Until the majority of the market converts from DVD9 no one knows whats going to happen in the format war.

uh...all i can say is that 300 naturally wont look amazing cus of the grain filter...CosmoKing7717

Exactly.

As for Casino Royale. It looks AMAZING on my Samsung plasma.

Upgrade your garbage TV. Bluray is the future.

HD DVD hasn't lost and isnt any less viable of a format. My HD DVD movies look just as good as my blu-ray, so quit making ignorant statements. Until the majority of the market converts from DVD9 no one knows whats going to happen in the format war.

tkemory

HD-DVD is still alive for the moment, but Blu-Ray is clearly pulling away, as it consistently outsells HD-DVD anywhere from a 2:1 to a 4:1 ratio, not to mention it also has twice the film industry support compared to HD-DVD.

My Blu-Ray movies look great, so it might be the TV causing you to think it doesnt look good.

[QUOTE="tkemory"]

HD DVD hasn't lost and isnt any less viable of a format. My HD DVD movies look just as good as my blu-ray, so quit making ignorant statements. Until the majority of the market converts from DVD9 no one knows whats going to happen in the format war.

YourDaddy88

HD-DVD is still alive for the moment, but Blu-Ray is clearly pulling away, as it consistently outsells HD-DVD anywhere from a 2:1 to a 4:1 ratio, not to mention it also has twice the film industry support compared to HD-DVD.

Once again, until HD disc sales combine for even a fraction of DVD9 sales, moot point.

[QUOTE="YourDaddy88"][QUOTE="tkemory"]

HD DVD hasn't lost and isnt any less viable of a format. My HD DVD movies look just as good as my blu-ray, so quit making ignorant statements. Until the majority of the market converts from DVD9 no one knows whats going to happen in the format war.

tkemory

HD-DVD is still alive for the moment, but Blu-Ray is clearly pulling away, as it consistently outsells HD-DVD anywhere from a 2:1 to a 4:1 ratio, not to mention it also has twice the film industry support compared to HD-DVD.

Once again, until HD disc sales combine for even a fraction of DVD9 sales, moot point.

Ill agree with that. But still I see a good load of Blu Rays at Blockbuster. Alot more than last year, which was none! And the new quote of most films is (In a deep advertising voice) "Now on Blu Ray and DVD." So it heading a certain way for sure. Quality or not. Plus Sony intertwined threw Hollywood and media. A area the comp does not have a hold on one bit. They have been a part of for decades.

[QUOTE="tkemory"][QUOTE="YourDaddy88"][QUOTE="tkemory"]

HD DVD hasn't lost and isnt any less viable of a format. My HD DVD movies look just as good as my blu-ray, so quit making ignorant statements. Until the majority of the market converts from DVD9 no one knows whats going to happen in the format war.

truenextgen

HD-DVD is still alive for the moment, but Blu-Ray is clearly pulling away, as it consistently outsells HD-DVD anywhere from a 2:1 to a 4:1 ratio, not to mention it also has twice the film industry support compared to HD-DVD.

Once again, until HD disc sales combine for even a fraction of DVD9 sales, moot point.

Ill agree with that. But still I see a good load of Blu Rays at Blockbuster. Alot more than last year, which was none! And the new quote of most films is (In a deep advertising voice) "Now on Blu Ray and DVD." So it heading a certain way for sure. Quality or not. Plus Sony intertwined threw Hollywood and media. A area the comp does not have a hold on one bit. They have been a part of for decades.

Maybe so, but the overall number of available HD DVD movies is only a dozen or so under Blu-ray. At Frys where I shop the selection is comprable in overall numbers.

Now Amazon is doing BOGO for HD DVD which is something Blu-ray has been doing for months to help boost its sales. Since I own both formats the war is playing into my hands lately, because of all the freebiesI am getting my HD movies around the same cost as DVD's which is awesome, so war on!

[QUOTE="tkemory"]

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.truenextgen

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Yea and 2 years ago it was not 720 it was not even HD. Native now is 720. But cable is pushing 1080p and 1080i. Disc TV is bragging about 1080p. And that more is to come. The TV "and Hollywood" have made their line that their going to "and have made it vary clear! And its 1080p. And my point on Blu Ray was simple. PS3 will be in second at least, in the system wars in a year or so. And Blu Ray is next as far as movies go. HDDVD was a joke, and lost. So look better or not, Thats how its going to be. Theirs no flaw in that fact.

2 years ago - what are you talking about .CBS and HDNET pushed the HD barrier and they are both 1080i broadcasting companies. They had HD going more than five years ago. Think NBC is 1080i as well, but canbe wrong and don't feel like looking it up. ABC, ESPN is doing 720p and Fox came along somewhere with 720p done with different technology allowing them to do 6games in HD on Sunday when CBS can only do 2.

There is no native HD=720p - HD is 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Nobody broadcasts 1080p

To the guy that countered my last argument by saying 300 looked good on bluray - that was my point. Read my post again. I said some movies are supposed to look like that and when Bluray makes them look like that it is a job done well.

For the dude that claims that cable HD looks as good - whatever. You are most likely (not 100% depending on your cable company) receiving a compressed HD signal so there is just no way it looks as good an uncompressed signal of the same movie from your bluray player. Note that I say - same movie....

[QUOTE="sk8ter33157"]If someone needs to be convinced about how good Blu Ray looks show them Hairspray. 300 cant be taken seriously because of the grain filter and the fact that most of it is CGI. Hairspray looks so pure and clean. You'll be blown away. Great sound tooryank285

I wouldn't run around telling people that you have seen "Hairspray"...

Really? I should be ashamed to have seen what critics rated one of the best movies of the year? A film nominated for two golden globes? Why shouldn't I recommend that movie to people? It was rated a "must-buy" by one of the best blu ray websites, highdefdigest.com

You must be very insecure about yourself

[QUOTE="ryank285"]

[QUOTE="sk8ter33157"]If someone needs to be convinced about how good Blu Ray looks show them Hairspray. 300 cant be taken seriously because of the grain filter and the fact that most of it is CGI. Hairspray looks so pure and clean. You'll be blown away. Great sound toosk8ter33157

I wouldn't run around telling people that you have seen "Hairspray"...

Really? I should be ashamed to have seen what critics rated one of the best movies of the year? A film nominated for two golden globes? Why shouldn't I recommend that movie to people? It was rated a "must-buy" by one of the best blu ray websites, highdefdigest.com

You must be very insecure about yourself

Whatever, go watch "Brokeback Mountain"...

[QUOTE="truenextgen"][QUOTE="tkemory"]

[QUOTE="ryank285"]Personally, i think HD movies on cable look better than Blu ray.svenskamerikan

You do know that most stuff on Cable is only 720P? There arevery few channels that broadcast in 1080i. Blu-Ray is native 1080P.

Yea and 2 years ago it was not 720 it was not even HD. Native now is 720. But cable is pushing 1080p and 1080i. Disc TV is bragging about 1080p. And that more is to come. The TV "and Hollywood" have made their line that their going to "and have made it vary clear! And its 1080p. And my point on Blu Ray was simple. PS3 will be in second at least, in the system wars in a year or so. And Blu Ray is next as far as movies go. HDDVD was a joke, and lost. So look better or not, Thats how its going to be. Theirs no flaw in that fact.

2 years ago - what are you talking about .CBS and HDNET pushed the HD barrier and they are both 1080i broadcasting companies. They had HD going more than five years ago. Think NBC is 1080i as well, but canbe wrong and don't feel like looking it up. ABC, ESPN is doing 720p and Fox came along somewhere with 720p done with different technology allowing them to do 6games in HD on Sunday when CBS can only do 2.

There is no native HD=720p - HD is 720p, 1080i and 1080p. Nobody broadcasts 1080p

To the guy that countered my last argument by saying 300 looked good on bluray - that was my point. Read my post again. I said some movies are supposed to look like that and when Bluray makes them look like that it is a job done well.

For the dude that claims that cable HD looks as good - whatever. You are most likely (not 100% depending on your cable company) receiving a compressed HD signal so there is just no way it looks as good an uncompressed signal of the same movie from your bluray player. Note that I say - same movie....

I didn't say cable HD looks as good... i said it looks better. Noise and graininess in movies annoy me which is present on some blu ray movies. However, i don't have that problem watching movies on cable.

What are you comparing it to? It looks fantastic IMO. rocket9434

Sure, it looks great, but is the quality significant enough to make it worth paying 3 times as much compared to DVD? Not really.

Sure, it looks great, but is the quality significant enough to make it worth paying 3 times as much compared to DVD? Not really.ryank285

That's a subjective question. To me, the answer is absolutely. I saw The Departed on BluRay minutes after picking up my PS3 and haven't owned a DVD since.