Cage: Playing Heavy Rain multiple times will "kill the magic of it"

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#1 2mrw
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http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/31/cage-playing-heavy-rain-multiple-times-will-kill-the-magic-of-it/

is he trying to kill the game??? what abt the replay value?? shall someone but a copy then sell it, and then it is resold over and over again???

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#2 muzik_mafia
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Death of replay value.

It's like saying, "Play FEAR again and you won't get scared"

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#3 hazelnutman
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I think he's hinting at buying a new copy of the game every time you beat it.
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#4 bobaban
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I get what he's saying but I don't think he realized how his comment would come off.
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#5 Ospov
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Maybe the different actions that you do in the game won't actually have much of effect on the actual story line and it'll seem more dynamic if you only play it once. Regardless, games should be made so that you can play them more than once. Otherwise I would rather them charge hourly and just rush through it.

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#6 AtticusFinch88
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After finishing a game, I usually wait a few months or sometimes years to play it again. By the time I do end up playing it again I would have forgotten most of what happened before (I have a very bad memory :P) so I don't think it will "kill the game". I understand what David Cage means by this, and I really admire his view on gaming, but I think sometimes he just takes his work too seriously.

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#7 TehSonofUgly
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So hes pretty much telling us to just rent the game then?

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#8 G-Legend
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I think he means the first time you play it, it will be amazing but you may not feel the same the second time, but then again there's so much CHOICE in the game I don't see how playing it multiple times can "kill the magic" when you have so many different options if anything it'd help the replay value and you'd have a different "magic" each time.

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#9 Ospov
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I think he means the first time you play it, it will be amazing but you may not feel the same the second time, but then again there's so much CHOICE in the game I don't see how playing it multiple times can "kill the magic" when you have so many different options if anything it'd help the replay value and you'd have a different "magic" each time.

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Unless the choices actually don't have a huge impact on the story. Look at inFamous, you can choose to be good or evil, but the story plays out almost exactly the same either way. I was a bit disappointed in it, but I had fun regardless.

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#10 deactivated-5bc291bf3d647
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I think he means the first time you play it, it will be amazing but you may not feel the same the second time, but then again there's so much CHOICE in the game I don't see how playing it multiple times can "kill the magic" when you have so many different options if anything it'd help the replay value and you'd have a different "magic" each time.

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i think he means that the first time ur disicions will be wat u want to ac tually do in that situation making u connect more, but on multiple play throughs u are just choosing to see wat it does.... also will this mean that all the trophies can be acquired in one playthrough?? :P lol
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#11 BrettB7400
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Oh boy. This game is going to be a huge bust. Everyone is gonna be let down because they hyped this game to death.

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#12 raven_squad
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It will kill the magic of the game because you will be fully aware of the implications of your actions, and how to avoid certain outcomes. There will be a large element of surprise lost when you make an opposite decision from your first game just to change your outcome the second time. Makes complete sense. He should also realize though that the game's massive amount of possible outcomes and branching paths make it ideal for the player to have a different experience almost every time they play it...
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#13 2mrw
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It will kill the magic of the game because you will be fully aware of the implications of your actions, and how to avoid certain outcomes. There will be a large element of surprise lost when you make an opposite decision from your first game just to change your outcome the second time. Makes complete sense. He should also realize though that the game's massive amount of possible outcomes and branching paths make it ideal for the player to have a different experience almost every time they play it... raven_squad
saying it the way he did is a very terrible way to explain that, especially wz a very uniqe game like that.
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#14 G-Legend
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Well from his videos english isn't his first language so i'm just asusming he worded this wrong.

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#15 raven_squad
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Well from his videos english isn't his first language so i'm just asusming he worded this wrong.

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I'd agree with that, from many interviews I've watched of his, he has alot of trouble adequately expressing his thoughts in English.
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#16 BPoole96
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I'm hoping that he means that he doesn't want people to have a character die, not be pleased with it, and then reload the game until the characters lives. I can see what he's saying from that standpoint, but playing it multiple times should be an option. If I can get an enjoyable 3 play throughs out of it, I wont be disappointed. I usually don't play games more than that anyway

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#17 PoisoN_Facecam0
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Maybe the different actions that you do in the game won't actually have much of effect on the actual story line and it'll seem more dynamic if you only play it once. Regardless, games should be made so that you can play them more than once. Otherwise I would rather them charge hourly and just rush through it.

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wouldn't that really defeat the whole purpose of it being "dynamic?"
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#18 nero_rules
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I'm hoping that he means that he doesn't want people to have a character die, not be pleased with it, and then reload the game until the characters lives. I can see what he's saying from that standpoint, but playing it multiple times should be an option. If I can get an enjoyable 3 play throughs out of it, I wont be disappointed. I usually don't play games more than that anyway

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He actually says right in that article that he's "fine with" people reloading saves to avoid bad endings. He just doesn't want them to replay the whole game, apparently. :?
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#20 dukerav
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There are plenty of movies out there I have watched and enjoyed multiple times, same with some books, and music, it didn't ruin the enjoyment for me. I fully expect it to be that way when I probably play Heavy Rain multiple times, so no disrespect to what he said, but meh.
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#21 Prince-Noctis
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If I can only enjoy it once why would I want it.....

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#22 PoisoN_Facecam0
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If I can only enjoy it once why would I want it.....

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it clearly wasn't what he meant... if you would have read through the thread i'm sure you would have come to the same conclusion..
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#23 HellsAngel2c
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I guess he sees the game like a good book or movie- you experience it once then put it on your shelf and let time pass before you play it again. I'm also pretty sure the choice system will be a bit like Fahrenheit- the story is exactly the same, save for a few key moments (ie, if you're mean to Tiffany, she will slag you off when you go see her etc). I have no problems with this. I loved Fahrenheit, save for the crazy ending. For me, its more about the story and characters then the free will
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#24 BenderUnit22
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I bet the PR agent behind him had a heart attack when he said that.
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#25 Rhen_Var
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I can imagine why considering Heavy Rain doesn't seem very gameplay oriented in the long run. I played Okami like 5 times because it was fun, gameplay and atmosphere wise. Heavy Rain doesn't really look like a game you would want to repeat anymore then 2 - 3 times
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#26 carving_a_giant
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If I can only enjoy it once why would I want it.....

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......and thats why this type of game is not for you. Stick to MW2, i think you'll find what you're looking for there.

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#27 Big_Bad_Sad
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He hasnt got the hang of selling the game has he.
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#28 Solid_Snake325
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Finally! Someone who agrees with me that replay value is a con, not a pro. You guys keep saying that you don't care that the story is so short because you have replay value, but then Cage comes along and owns all of you.