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#1 DipSetOfiicial
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   
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#2 murstdurst
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)
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^hahah
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#4 Xanog1
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You'd think that the company that helped invent the CD would be hailed as original every now and then, but I guess not.

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#5 Flame1
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home is to miis what the ps2 was to the gamecube.
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#6 NavigatorsGhost
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Who cares? People have complained about SONY's crappy online since its debut on PS2. Now it has legitimate plans to make the most in-depth and advanced online experience in gaming and people are just complaining that its not original.
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#7 mmirza23
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Who cares? People have complained about SONY's crappy online since its debut on PS2. Now it has legitimate plans to make the most in-depth and advanced online experience in gaming and people are just complaining that its not original. NavigatorsGhost

I totally agree, and it's FREE, how original is that? nothing is ever FREE in this world.

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#8 Vojkan80001
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   DipSetOfiicial

What do you mean by original?

is xbox live original? No, Dreamcast had online, PS2 had online before xbox was released. PS1 is the original console, all other are copy of it. It doesnt make sense does it? It's DOG eat DOG.

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#9 DipSetOfiicial
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? murstdurst


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied
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#10 T-Zone
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And before DC, PC had online.
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#11 DipSetOfiicial
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? Vojkan80001

What do you mean by original?

is xbox live original? No, Dreamcast had online, PS2 had online before xbox was released. PS1 is the original console, all other are copy of it. It doesnt make sense does it? It's DOG eat DOG.

Did dreamcast have a online blade thou
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#12 SirRaven
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Let them keep running their mouths. They'll just be pissed in a few months when their precious Wiis are gathering dust and no 360 games til the next gears of war to play. People keep saying Sony is unoriginal like if XBL or Mii system were original. like zomg, NES used controllers like the atari, teh copycats!1111!!!!1!@! j00 have to use a TV to play too? omg lurn 2 make console!!11
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#13 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Online play, rumble feature in controller

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#14 Vojkan80001
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And before DC, PC had online.T-Zone
Yes but We are talking about consoles
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#15 lazeaai
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There is no such thing as originality. All of the greatest ideas out there have been done. You try to find something original that sounds fun and it can be done with our current technology. 3D done, Create you own levels and stuff done, Online games done,action, adventure, platformers, FPS, etc. All those have been done! There is nothing else. Besides. Home is 10x better than wii. So eat it.
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#16 UntoldDreams
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied



Hold old are you kiddo? Microsoft is in court all the time getting SUED for copying stuff.
Go ask APPLE / Real Audio / Mozilla & Firefox / Good lord the list goes on forever!

Would you like to wager your lunch money I can find 3D avatars like Mii's somewhere else on the internet?

Yes? No?

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#17 Krigon
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Can nintendo and Microsoft stop using Cd's!
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#18 Xanog1
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

For one, both of them contain lights to show that they are on.

Better tell Thomas Edison that he's getting ripped-off

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#19 SirRaven
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? mmirza23



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Online play, rumble feature in controller

well that's against microsoft. Nintendo did have rumble and analog first. Then sony jumped on the bandwagon w/ dualshock then ms w/ their xbox. It's all stupid anyways. It's like a professional basketball player telling another player "you can't dribble between your legs or behind your back because you'll just be copying me". Those attributes are used to enhance gaming, who cares who has it.
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#20 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? Xanog1



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

For one, both of them contain lights to show that they are on.

Better tell Thomas Edison that he's getting ripped-off

LOL

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#21 BladeofImmortal
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home is to miis what the ps2 was to the gamecube.Flame1
You mean infintiely better?
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#22 Nightflash28
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Can the topics here get original? Not a week passes by in which we do not see a topic about Sony being unoriginal.
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#23 Password1233456
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Rumble, Dual Analog Sticks, Online (PC's were the first) And Home is nothing like the Miis...i have a Wii....and Miis dont do jack **** ...Home is interactive....its based around bringing people together....and its optional....Miis are mandatory and they're the reason why WarioWar Smooth Moves sucked....i wanted to play as Dr. Crygor....not some gay ass Mii....360 just has some point system.....so whoever has the most points can brag about being the biggest loser....in Home...you show off your achievements with rewards...that are useful....not boring numbers....and its FREE....is Live free?
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#24 BladeofImmortal
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Xbox Live is just like Battle.Net or Steam. Nintendo, where to begin. Let's see, MOTION SENSING HAS BEEN ON PCS FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS before the Wii was even announced.
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#25 T-Zone
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? Xanog1



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

For one, both of them contain lights to show that they are on.

Better tell Thomas Edison that he's getting ripped-off

That's a funny story, Thomas Edison didnt really put the Light Bulb together, so technically, he didnt invent the Light Bulb.
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#26 Gzus666
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

this is the best thing i think ive ever seen anyone say. lets go through some. nintendo copied Atari, 1 for me. MS copied PS2 for their original box, 2 for me. MS copied their OS's from Mac, on more than one occasion, sometimes stealing them and calling them their own, 3 for me. MS stole the idea for their controller idea from Sony, who stole that from Ninteno, who stole that from the arcade games(usually made by atari)4 for me. shall i continue?
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#27 BladeofImmortal
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"]

[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? SirRaven



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Online play, rumble feature in controller

well that's against microsoft. Nintendo did have rumble and analog first. Then sony jumped on the bandwagon w/ dualshock then ms w/ their xbox. It's all stupid anyways. It's like a professional basketball player telling another player "you can't dribble between your legs or behind your back because you'll just be copying me". Those attributes are used to enhance gaming, who cares who has it.

Exactly, its who implements them the best, and well maybe its just me, but I don't see one analog stick being the norm.
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#28 murstdurst
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wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.
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#29 -Krakapow-
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Sony are original. they develop their own hardware. they developd their own cell processor chip especially for the ps3 and they helped develop bluray. how much more original do you want them to be? home is not a rip off of mii at all. home is an online community, of course you need avatars, and when said community is a 3d environment its natural for said avatar  to take take the form of a person - they represent you. so nintendo had an avatar system first, so what? 3d avatars have beena round a lot longer than that you know? the point of a mii is to be a fun and easy to pick up way of representing your self in nintedo's games like wii sports. home avatars aren't used in games. and sony aren't ripping off achievements either. they're making trophies - actual 3d, visual symbols of accomplishment, not just numbers and statistics. and i think i read somewhere that sony have been developing "home" since 2005 and possibly earlier.

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#30 BladeofImmortal
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wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.murstdurst
And they didn't even have the balls to steal it. So much for Nintendo being original.
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? Xanog1



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

For one, both of them contain lights to show that they are on.

Better tell Thomas Edison that he's getting ripped-off

Not to flame or anything, just a point.... Thomas Edison did not invent the light blulb, he bought the patent off a Canadian... But I totally agree, people never say all the things MS or nintendo copied, it's ridiculous.
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Are you serious? You're joking right? Well I think all 3 remaining console makers do have original inventions, a lot of consoles are evolutionary not revolutionary. Was Microsoft the first to have a controller with dual analogs and a D-pad and buttons? Yeah? Was Microsoft the first to have a DVD drive installed? Yeah? Was Nintendo the first console to have cartridges, were they even the first console, etc. etc. How about first with a CD drive installed? I'm pretty sure you can't come back to this thread to answer all replies to your post. But you're a dipset fan I'll let you pass haha (as long as you were one way before We Fly High came out!)
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#33 albyx
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Actually Dipsetofficial your wrong. Let's elaborate:

MS (as a company), flat out stole their GUI from Mac. All their Mice, keyboards, headset and general computer equipment is nothing new or special. Internet Explorer is just a redone version of Netscape, Xbox an Xbox 360 are just consoles, they weren't the first so they can't have that title. Console online was original only to Sega since they created the Sega channel way back in the day. I can keep going but I'll save that for another time.

Nintendo is a little bit more tricky but they have stolen ideas. For one, motion sensing. That was not their idea and they were not the first to put it in a console. (remember sega bass fishing controllers or eye toy).

Now of all the companies, sony ms and nintendo, NIntendo is the only one that can really be respected or argued for being original because they started in videogames and there only business is videogames.

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#35 Jigsaw_McGraw
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There is no such thing as originality when a good idea is put to use...every company is going to jump on the bandwagon. The question is y wouldn't they? If one company has something the other doesn't wouldn't that mean the company has a disadvantage? Its all about competition, money, and making the customers happy...and Sony is doing it SUCCESSFULLY with new and free stuff.
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#36 plg2307
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It's how the corporation work. Why do you think they pay thousands of dollars to increase security around them and such. Once a new product comes out, the competition buy this product (if they make the same kind of product) watch the design/new stuff and think what they can take from this product and put into theirs without breaking a patent and being sued. Usually it's not a really big difference and it works. All corporation do the same thing.

Now why are we blaming console compagnies of being "copycat" is because they are on the front page in a sense. They have the spot right on them and it is much more apparent when something looks alike. Not like the engine in your car which has evolved over time being "improved" by different compagnies who "stole" the idea of another. We don't see the engine... most people might even don't know and we certainly (well most of us lol) don't hold the engine many time like we do for controllers for exemple.

Even people who knows corporation are copying usually don't care ... why caring? It makes us having better products in the end no?

So why caring for consoles? That I don't know, I certainly don't.

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Actually Dipsetofficial your wrong. Let's elaborate:

MS (as a company), flat out stole their GUI from Mac. All their Mice, keyboards, headset and general computer equipment is nothing new or special. Internet Explorer is just a redone version of Netscape, Xbox an Xbox 360 are just consoles, they weren't the first so they can't have that title. Console online was original only to Sega since they created the Sega channel way back in the day. I can keep going but I'll save that for another time.

Nintendo is a little bit more tricky but they have stolen ideas. For one, motion sensing. That was not their idea and they were not the first to put it in a console. (remember sega bass fishing controllers or eye toy).

Now of all the companies, sony ms and nintendo, NIntendo is the only one that can really be respected or argued for being original because they started in videogames and there only business is videogames.

albyx
You have some great points. But Nintendo did not start in video games, they actually started making card games a loooong time ago.
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#38 Flame1
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this thread isn't even original

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#39 Absynthetic
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sony?

I think that question is better suited to ask MS wouldnt you say?

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#40 joevfx
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? murstdurst


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

exactly origina is done, tis not gonna happen anymore, its 2007 , every idea is pretty much out there, all there is now is improvment on old ideas, and thats fine.
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[QUOTE="Password1233456"]Rumble, Dual Analog Sticks, Online (PC's were the first) And Home is nothing like the Miis...i have a Wii....and Miis dont do jack **** ...Home is interactive....its based around bringing people together....and its optional....Miis are mandatory and they're the reason why WarioWar Smooth Moves sucked....i wanted to play as Dr. Crygor....not some gay ass Mii....360 just has some point system.....so whoever has the most points can brag about being the biggest loser....in Home...you show off your achievements with rewards...that are useful....not boring numbers....and its FREE....is Live free?

Please tell me you are kidding.....
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Take a look at that and tell me sony is original.

Also nintendo launched the home gaming industry with the NES and paved the way for almost every genre of game. How is that not original? I'll admit that the 360 doesnt have any original features but it utilizes already known ones better and cheaper than any other system. Originality doesnt mean no one can copy you. If its a good idea people should copy you and the more youre copied the better your idea was. Cavemen invented the wheel that was a pretty original idea. But it would mean nothing if it didnt catch on. atari invented gaming but wasnt as popular as mainstream nintendo. so nintendo is credited with revolutionizing gaming. henry ford didnt invent the wheel but he is often credited with making the auto industry as popular and important as it is today. ford took a known idea and used it to revolutionize the industry. sony has yet to do anything of the sort. ok they came out with the playstation...pretty original. but they havent done anything since to change it. the graphics got better. big whoop. theyve been using the same controller since the ps1 and havent changed since. nintendo on the other hand has changed the industry with the wii and motion sensing. ms has revolutionized online play with xbl. but in the end sony will be the cavemen inventing something but never really putting it to use or popularizing it and nintendo/ms will be henry ford, building off of someone elses innovation but making it survive and have a lasting impression.
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? mmirza23



a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

Online play, rumble feature in controller

lmao they copyed gaming all togeather;)

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#44 TriangleHard
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Wasn't Sony the first to think about CD over cartridge?

I think that is pretty original.

And wasn't Sony first to think of making their Playstation franchise into multi-media device instead of just gaming device?

I think that is pretty original idea too.
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#45 azuroc
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Take a look at that and tell me sony is original.

Also nintendo launched the home gaming industry with the NES and paved the way for almost every genre of game. How is that not original? I'll admit that the 360 doesnt have any original features but it utilizes already known ones better and cheaper than any other system. Originality doesnt mean no one can copy you. If its a good idea people should copy you and the more youre copied the better your idea was. Cavemen invented the wheel that was a pretty original idea. But it would mean nothing if it didnt catch on. atari invented gaming but wasnt as popular as mainstream nintendo. so nintendo is credited with revolutionizing gaming. henry ford didnt invent the wheel but he is often credited with making the auto industry as popular and important as it is today. ford took a known idea and used it to revolutionize the industry. sony has yet to do anything of the sort. ok they came out with the playstation...pretty original. but they havent done anything since to change it. the graphics got better. big whoop. theyve been using the same controller since the ps1 and havent changed since. nintendo on the other hand has changed the industry with the wii and motion sensing. ms has revolutionized online play with xbl. but in the end sony will be the cavemen inventing something but never really putting it to use or popularizing it and nintendo/ms will be henry ford, building off of someone elses innovation but making it survive and have a lasting impression.misteryoung


The Spiderman films are owned by Sony pictures.

Nice try.
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#46 Gzus666
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Take a look at that and tell me sony is original.

Also nintendo launched the home gaming industry with the NES and paved the way for almost every genre of game. How is that not original? I'll admit that the 360 doesnt have any original features but it utilizes already known ones better and cheaper than any other system. Originality doesnt mean no one can copy you. If its a good idea people should copy you and the more youre copied the better your idea was. Cavemen invented the wheel that was a pretty original idea. But it would mean nothing if it didnt catch on. atari invented gaming but wasnt as popular as mainstream nintendo. so nintendo is credited with revolutionizing gaming. henry ford didnt invent the wheel but he is often credited with making the auto industry as popular and important as it is today. ford took a known idea and used it to revolutionize the industry. sony has yet to do anything of the sort. ok they came out with the playstation...pretty original. but they havent done anything since to change it. the graphics got better. big whoop. theyve been using the same controller since the ps1 and havent changed since. nintendo on the other hand has changed the industry with the wii and motion sensing. ms has revolutionized online play with xbl. but in the end sony will be the cavemen inventing something but never really putting it to use or popularizing it and nintendo/ms will be henry ford, building off of someone elses innovation but making it survive and have a lasting impression.misteryoung
actually Calico Vision and Atari brought games to your house, Nintendo ripped it off. try again, BAM
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#47 T-Zone
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Umm, How did Nintendo launch the home gaming industry? Wasn't there video game consoles b4 Nintendo? For Example : Atari, Intellivision, Oddessy, PONG, etc. Nintendo merely got video games off thier feet, so that's not really too original.
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#48 2beers_in_hand
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

MS copied this thing um called of windows have you ever heard of it.
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Take a look at that and tell me sony is original.

misteryoung
sony owns the spiderman films, they can do whatever they want with the font
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wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.murstdurst
Wireless controller support built into the system. 360 came out with that first, as well as an ethernet connection built into the console. MS was first on both of those.