Can Sony be Original?

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#51 BladeofImmortal
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[QUOTE="T-Zone"]Umm, How did Nintendo launch the home gaming industry? Wasn't there video game consoles b4 Nintendo? For Example : Atari, Intellivision, Oddessy, PONG, etc. Nintendo merely got video games off thier feet, so that's not really too original.

Exactly, Nintendo improved upon the ideas, and when they became stagnant, Sony came in and swept up.
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#52 T-Zone
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Here's an ORIGINAL IDEA by Sony : It's called BLU-RAY.
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#53 Jigsaw_McGraw
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Take a look at that and tell me sony is original.

Also nintendo launched the home gaming industry with the NES and paved the way for almost every genre of game. How is that not original? I'll admit that the 360 doesnt have any original features but it utilizes already known ones better and cheaper than any other system. Originality doesnt mean no one can copy you. If its a good idea people should copy you and the more youre copied the better your idea was. Cavemen invented the wheel that was a pretty original idea. But it would mean nothing if it didnt catch on. atari invented gaming but wasnt as popular as mainstream nintendo. so nintendo is credited with revolutionizing gaming. henry ford didnt invent the wheel but he is often credited with making the auto industry as popular and important as it is today. ford took a known idea and used it to revolutionize the industry. sony has yet to do anything of the sort. ok they came out with the playstation...pretty original. but they havent done anything since to change it. the graphics got better. big whoop. theyve been using the same controller since the ps1 and havent changed since. nintendo on the other hand has changed the industry with the wii and motion sensing. ms has revolutionized online play with xbl. but in the end sony will be the cavemen inventing something but never really putting it to use or popularizing it and nintendo/ms will be henry ford, building off of someone elses innovation but making it survive and have a lasting impression.misteryoung
You failed, wow, ignorance is bliss my friend. Sony Films makes the the spiderman movies...their font. Even if they didn't make the movies, its just a font, big friggen deal.
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#54 NavigatorsGhost
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"][QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? Gzus666


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

this is the best thing i think ive ever seen anyone say. lets go through some. nintendo copied Atari, 1 for me. MS copied PS2 for their original box, 2 for me. MS copied their OS's from Mac, on more than one occasion, sometimes stealing them and calling them their own, 3 for me. MS stole the idea for their controller idea from Sony, who stole that from Ninteno, who stole that from the arcade games(usually made by atari)4 for me. shall i continue?

Please stop the ownage, it is hurting my eyes.

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#55 LoboSolo
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   DipSetOfiicial

You my friend, are an idiot.

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#56 murstdurst
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"]wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.snyper1982
Wireless controller support built into the system. 360 came out with that first, as well as an ethernet connection built into the console. MS was first on both of those.

yes they did that, but that's hardly original. then sony came first with 2 analog sticks first and sony came first with touch pad power on/off etc.
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#57 misteryoung
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if you ask someone what was the first video game system they are likely to say NES. atari and collecovision and others werent as mainstream as nintendo and didnt appeal to the masses. i was just saying that nintendo took ideas but used them in a more appealing way and improved upon them. they are like the "cavemen" and nintendo is the "ford"

and why couldnt they think of a better font than that of spiderman. were they too busy thinking of ways to "innovate" the console?
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#58 strickers6
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copied after they saw the Wavebird.
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#59 UntoldDreams
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if you ask someone what was the first video game system they are likely to say NES. atari and collecovision and others werent as mainstream as nintendo and didnt appeal to the masses. i was just saying that nintendo took ideas but used them in a more appealing way and improved upon them. they are like the "cavemen" and nintendo is the "ford"

and why couldnt they think of a better font than that of spiderman. were they too busy thinking of ways to "innovate" the console?
misteryoung


Well the Playstation took existing ideas and made it the most successful game system ever.
Now what? By your own definition Nintendo sucks ass compared to Sony.

Look my friend. You "want to hate" on Sony but you don't have any good logical reasoning.

Just admit you don't like Sony and you personally want them to fail. that's okay at least I can respect that but don't try to convince people with half baked reasons.

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#60 Gzus666
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if you ask someone what was the first video game system they are likely to say NES. atari and collecovision and others werent as mainstream as nintendo and didnt appeal to the masses. i was just saying that nintendo took ideas but used them in a more appealing way and improved upon them. they are like the "cavemen" and nintendo is the "ford"

and why couldnt they think of a better font than that of spiderman. were they too busy thinking of ways to "innovate" the console?
misteryoung
depends how old the person your asking is, for the youngins, its nintendo. but everyone in the know, knows its atari.
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#61 Ericvon71
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   DipSetOfiicial

Could you come up with an original post?

Yes they can!

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#62 ilovesandrine
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the MSX was made by sony and MS . way back in the day but y does no one say anything about it mayb the fanboys of sony and MS dont know they used to be on the same page. also if nintendo did not help sony with the cd drive for super nintendo than quit than sony would of lift gameing to nintendo and sega. sony and ms first game box did so bad. so sony help ms git in the game market and nintendo help sony git back in the game market. o and 3do was the first with a cd drive for games or was sega cd.
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#63 pimperjones
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   DipSetOfiicial
Do you get paid for Trolling, or is it just a part time hobby?
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#64 strickers6
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Wow.New levels of stupidity.It's like we're regressing as a species.Atari were huge pre Ninty and NES was no where as big as PS1.You could argue that PS1 brought gaming to the masses and even made it a bit cool.You could argue that much of the tech used in consoles by MS/Ninty was used by Sony first.Toslink/optical,surround sound,CD,DVD,scart or anything used in home cinema kit before consoles.Multi core was Sega(saturn)but the PS2 did it pre 360 with it's vector units.

You can argue black is white if it suits your point of view.

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#65 dubvisions
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Can nintendo and Microsoft stop using Cd's!Krigon
Now that is hilarious!!! You can;t look at it as copying. As other posts have stated, everyone uses each other's ideas to build off of. That's how we advance as a people. If no one used anyone else ideas, we'd never develope anything. Did people squash the guy that invented the fax machine? All he did was combine a copying machine with a telephone. But wait........how did he get them to work together? OMG, I think its called advancement. I think the big complaint here is from those who who are seeing their system get outdated minute by minute.
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#66 snyper1982
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[QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="murstdurst"]wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.murstdurst
Wireless controller support built into the system. 360 came out with that first, as well as an ethernet connection built into the console. MS was first on both of those.

yes they did that, but that's hardly original. then sony came first with 2 analog sticks first and sony came first with touch pad power on/off etc.

Isn't being the first to do something, original by definition? Yeah I thought so too.... And actually, if you want to get technical, Nintendo was the FIRST to use dual analog, as in Goldeneye you could use to controllers. It wasn't very popular, but it was there. Sony was the first to include dual analogs on a single controller. MS was also the first to include powering your system on from the controller itself. Which is an AWESOME feature!
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#67 snyper1982
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copied after they saw the Wavebird.strickers6
I said the first to INCLUDE support in the console right? Yeah, I did. There were wireless controllers out LONG before the wavebird.... But just like the wavebird, you had to have an adapter.
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Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements?   DipSetOfiicial
Not too bright are you well? For just how long has awareness about Mii existed? Everyone with more than half a brain would know it takes years to build up something like Home, actually it takes longer than an ordinary game due to the server infrastructure. And the so called "Acheivements", watch the keynote and you'll know that what Home does is lightyears beyond Acheivement points.
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#69 misteryoung
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fanboy alert...

ill admit that I HATE SONY. my first console was the ps1 and i loved it. it had great graphics (for the time) and some of the best games around (crash bandicoot, gta). then came the ps2, got that too. ok much better graphics, more great games, but not many other improvements. next comes the 360. insanely amazing graphics...HD...great games (gears, graw, cod 2+3)...wireless controllers...and of course XBL all at at $300/$400 pricetag. but what does the ps3 offer that the 360 doesnt. its basically an improvement on the ps2 with better graphics, HDMI (but not many games to support 1080p), wireless/below par motion sensing, crappy online service not comparable to XBL, and bluray, which i must admit is a great idea by sony if it is successful and wins the "format war." the wii has the whole motion sensing thing which is enough to innovate the whole industry. IMO sony is just playing it safe. theyre tryin to take aspects from both systems (wii, 360) and appeal to people who are willing to pay $600 for an "average system" they just want to make money and dont care about any of their customers. nintendo is solely a gaming company so they know what people want and in the future nintendo will own all.

i dont care what people say but this is solely my opinion so if you dont agree...fine. i could care less. just dont make a million posts criticizing an opinion that i am entitled to. if you do then u should move away and start a country where your opinion is the only one that people can believe. i think they call that a dictatorship
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"]wasn't it sony that came first with pressure sensitive buttons? and pressure sensitive d-pad? and remeber how the ps2 can be placed standing up or laying down? you know xbox 360 can do that to, right?... i dont think i have seen 1 hardware originality on xbox. nintendo do make original stuff now and then, but most of it has been made by others... rumble was immersion to name one.snyper1982
Wireless controller support built into the system. 360 came out with that first, as well as an ethernet connection built into the console. MS was first on both of those.

But they weren't the first to implement wireless controller support or ethernet. So one side will say they copied and innovated, other will say it was their idea. Get it?
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#71 strickers6
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Including something as standard that has exsisted before does not make it original though does it?That's pretty much the flow of all tech.Optional extra/premium cost becomes standard/cheap.
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#72 iwishiwasrich
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[QUOTE="murstdurst"][QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? DipSetOfiicial


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

Actualy they are........name one thing any of them copied

they moved to dvd like sony did. sony pretty much started disc with ps1. and had dvd be for nintendo had it 7 years later.
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#73 bondps3
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[QUOTE="DipSetOfiicial"]Home is pretty much Miis with better graphics sure it looks alot better but its basicaly the same Idea....... and please dont tell me there gona add Acheivements? murstdurst


a question: do you think MS and nintendo are original? ;)

exactly!!
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#74 strickers6
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Sony were one of the compnaies that developed DVD and now the same with Blu Ray.
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#75 814StopsToday
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I haven't bothered to read most of this topic, but...               

LittleBigPlanet

Loco Roco

PSP

enough originality for you?