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I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to have fun with a valueless point system.
UntoldDreams
Obviously your right and you dont get achivements. :)
They are very very good, and add replay value to games unendlessly, and are fun and rewarding to get. Hell, if it wasnt for them i wouldnt have played R6 on realistic all the way through, or played so many games on gears of war, or killed 10,000 zombies on dead rising. They are very good :)
[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to have fun with a valueless point system.
Devils_Joker_22
Obviously your right and you dont get achivements. :)
They are very very good, and add replay value to games unendlessly, and are fun and rewarding to get. Hell, if it wasnt for them i wouldnt have played R6 on realistic all the way through, or played so many games on gears of war, or killed 10,000 zombies on dead rising. They are very good :)
[QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to have fun with a valueless point system.
theshadow1212
Obviously your right and you dont get achivements. :)
They are very very good, and add replay value to games unendlessly, and are fun and rewarding to get. Hell, if it wasnt for them i wouldnt have played R6 on realistic all the way through, or played so many games on gears of war, or killed 10,000 zombies on dead rising. They are very good :)
Its not that, its that if you play a game with achivements ur going to get lot more out of it than the same game without them, it gives you something to strive for, it makes sure you feel out the entire game, for people like me who play games for fun, i would never play R6 on realistic, Id bail out a few missions in, but because of the 100 game points i dicided i would keep goin, and that motivation ment i respect the game alot more because ive played the whole thing in hardest diffculty. Its a very good device.
i suddenly got an urge to buy a ps3, but i did not. yet. but i dont know if i should, since i already have a 360, and with games being available to both the xbox and ps3, i would go for the achivements, but then there are games like resistance and motorstorm,, cant think of many more atm.. but yea... would a ps3 be a good buy if i could get the games for the 360 with achivements? also, what are some future fps's for the ps3, since that is what im mostly into.baronOdoomI day go for it man! have best of both worlds.A true gamer will enjoy all 3 systems,and it's ok to have a favorite one.:wink:
I say why not? The ps3 will have some good games for sure that you won't get anywhere else. Off topic... What's up with the big avatars? is that only happening on my screen?InfamousM
Nah thats on mine too, its pretty messed up i guess they upgrading it, but mine is glitching like mad and my pic is now like JUMBO and you can only see the corner.
[QUOTE="InfamousM"]I say why not? The ps3 will have some good games for sure that you won't get anywhere else. Off topic... What's up with the big avatars? is that only happening on my screen?Devils_Joker_22
Nah thats on mine too, its pretty messed up i guess they upgrading it, but mine is glitching like mad and my pic is now like JUMBO and you can only see the corner.
My Avatar is jumbo sized also! what's up with that?Here are some future first party PS3 games:
Afrika Angel Rings Eight Days Eye of Judgment Eyedentify Getaway God of War 3 Gran Turismo 5 Gretzky NHL Heavenly Sword Hot Shots Golf 5 Killzone 2 Lair Monster Carnival MotorStorm Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction Resistance (franchise) SOCOM 4 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Warhawk
This list doesn't even include the great 3rd party exclusives (i.e. MGS4 and FFXIII).
WARRZONE
And all for £39.99...Lovely :D
I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to play with a reward of a point system.
And if the game isn't fun why should people play?
UntoldDreams
People shouldn't... some people make a bigger deal of it than it is, but it's just a cool little way to keep track of how you're doing in a game, for developers to entice you to do certain things and to track your progress in a game. When done correctly, they're a checklist for seeing everything there is to see in a game and, IMO, that's a good thing. Sometimes it's just completely bungled though and they're just tedious stupid things.
I wouldn't buy a console for the sake of getting achievements, lol. I'm considering getting a PS3 just to have a Blu Ray player. Hence the topic of this nature that I made... wasn't so much of a "Is it good?" but rather is the Blu Ray player in the PS3 as crap as the DVD player in the PS2 was... but you can't really ask that without getting flamed or modded. Especially with the 360 gamertag in my sig it just looks like I'm being a fanboy idiot at that rate.
[QUOTE="theshadow1212"][QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to have fun with a valueless point system.
Devils_Joker_22
Obviously your right and you dont get achivements. :)
They are very very good, and add replay value to games unendlessly, and are fun and rewarding to get. Hell, if it wasnt for them i wouldnt have played R6 on realistic all the way through, or played so many games on gears of war, or killed 10,000 zombies on dead rising. They are very good :)
Its not that, its that if you play a game with achivements ur going to get lot more out of it than the same game without them, it gives you something to strive for, it makes sure you feel out the entire game, for people like me who play games for fun, i would never play R6 on realistic, Id bail out a few missions in, but because of the 100 game points i dicided i would keep goin, and that motivation ment i respect the game alot more because ive played the whole thing in hardest diffculty. Its a very good device.
[QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="theshadow1212"][QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to have fun with a valueless point system.
kenshinhimura16
Obviously your right and you dont get achivements. :)
They are very very good, and add replay value to games unendlessly, and are fun and rewarding to get. Hell, if it wasnt for them i wouldnt have played R6 on realistic all the way through, or played so many games on gears of war, or killed 10,000 zombies on dead rising. They are very good :)
Its not that, its that if you play a game with achivements ur going to get lot more out of it than the same game without them, it gives you something to strive for, it makes sure you feel out the entire game, for people like me who play games for fun, i would never play R6 on realistic, Id bail out a few missions in, but because of the 100 game points i dicided i would keep goin, and that motivation ment i respect the game alot more because ive played the whole thing in hardest diffculty. Its a very good device.
No, i dont play 'Worsest' Games for achivments. Im a recrational gamer, if its not fun i dont play it. Henz me stoping playing kameo after an hour in dispite the huge achivments it seemed to be spitting at me. Im saying it helps games that truely deserve to be explored to be explored. It doesnt warrent terrible games being played, except if your a gamerpoints nutcase, and they have their own problems to worry about.
ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
UntoldDreams
They are rewarding not in a material sence but in a Social and Personal sence. I mean, like if there wasnt an achivement to kill 57k zombies in Dead Rising and some1 did, what would they have to show for it? Nothing, the fact something congratulates you, and the whole world can see you were able to do something hard, its just a nice social reward
[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
Devils_Joker_22
They are rewarding not in a material sence but in a Social and Personal sence. I mean, like if there wasnt an achivement to kill 57k zombies in Dead Rising and some1 did, what would they have to show for it? Nothing, the fact something congratulates you, and the whole world can see you were able to do something hard, its just a nice social reward
[QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
UntoldDreams
They are rewarding not in a material sence but in a Social and Personal sence. I mean, like if there wasnt an achivement to kill 57k zombies in Dead Rising and some1 did, what would they have to show for it? Nothing, the fact something congratulates you, and the whole world can see you were able to do something hard, its just a nice social reward
BOOM! You win, haha. Thats exactly what it is. But When ur good at a game, its fun to brag :) But i doubt achivements will ever help you score...apart from on UNO. Man those chicks do anything on cam...
What is the big deal with achievements?slystallion26
Im not going through all that again. ha, ill just say they are a great idea, you have to have a 360 to really appreciate it. *End of my attempts*
ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.:lol: very well said.
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
UntoldDreams
[QUOTE="slystallion26"]What is the big deal with achievements?Devils_Joker_22
Im not going through all that again. ha, ill just say they are a great idea, you have to have a 360 to really appreciate it. *End of my attempts*
I really see your point in all the things you've said, and the basic idea is right: You get rewarded for your efforts, and being rewarded and being able to show that off is a nice thing. I don't own a 360 and I haven't played enough on this system to give a great statement on the achievement system. But let me make a (maybe not so) far-fetched comparison to World of Warcraft. The game is fun, no doubt, and what makes it fun is that after "a lot of hard work" you get something out of it. Well, let me rephrase that: it was fun untill a certain point. After that, you realize that you're putting a lot of time and effort into rewards of a game that you've already played for far too long and you kinda wish that you'd have invested that time into new game experiences. So, in a nutshell: achievements are nice, as long as they are a firm part of the game and don't end up being too time consuming. Anything mmore than that and I'm not interested. ;)[QUOTE="Devils_Joker_22"][QUOTE="slystallion26"]What is the big deal with achievements?Nightflash28
Im not going through all that again. ha, ill just say they are a great idea, you have to have a 360 to really appreciate it. *End of my attempts*
I really see your point in all the things you've said, and the basic idea is right: You get rewarded for your efforts, and being rewarded and being able to show that off is a nice thing. I don't own a 360 and I haven't played enough on this system to give a great statement on the achievement system. But let me make a (maybe not so) far-fetched comparison to World of Warcraft. The game is fun, no doubt, and what makes it fun is that after "a lot of hard work" you get something out of it. Well, let me rephrase that: it was fun untill a certain point. After that, you realize that you're putting a lot of time and effort into rewards of a game that you've already played for far too long and you kinda wish that you'd have invested that time into new game experiences. So, in a nutshell: achievements are nice, as long as they are a firm part of the game and don't end up being too time consuming. Anything mmore than that and I'm not interested. ;)Yea, well the highest out of 1,000 i have for a single game is 680 and thats gears of war. I dont put in the effort if the achievment isnt worth it (Like kill 10,000 people in online ranked. THATS CRAZY), But yeah u have em dead on, ur just a sensible person too!
I think achievments are great, and if you don't have a 360 and haven't experienced them you have no right to comment.
Now, to answer the orginal question, as a owner of the 360 and Ps3 I say get one. I got one because I love HD movies and wanted to try bluray out. Resistance is a great game but right now that is about it outside of multiplats that look better on the 360 but that will change next week and through the month of March as some good ps3 games come out. I can't wait for Motorstorm!!!
i suddenly got an urge to buy a ps3, but i did not. yet. but i dont know if i should, since i already have a 360, and with games being available to both the xbox and ps3, i would go for the achivements, but then there are games like resistance and motorstorm,, cant think of many more atm.. but yea... would a ps3 be a good buy if i could get the games for the 360 with achivements? also, what are some future fps's for the ps3, since that is what im mostly into.baronOdoomDon't fight it. It's less painful that way I've been told. As for PS3 FPS check out the PS3 games tab, you're in for a treat with PS3 FPSs.
ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.Check this out. Sony is going to mandate achievements in their games. PlayStation "Home" - http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157624
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
UntoldDreams
[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.Check this out. Sony is going to mandate achievements in their games. PlayStation "Home" - http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3157624
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
WARRZONE
[QUOTE="UntoldDreams"]I never truly understood achievements. In a way it seems to be forcing people to play with a reward of a point system.
And if the game isn't fun why should people play?
Generic_Dude
People shouldn't... some people make a bigger deal of it than it is, but it's just a cool little way to keep track of how you're doing in a game, for developers to entice you to do certain things and to track your progress in a game. When done correctly, they're a checklist for seeing everything there is to see in a game and, IMO, that's a good thing. Sometimes it's just completely bungled though and they're just tedious stupid things.
I wouldn't buy a console for the sake of getting achievements, lol. I'm considering getting a PS3 just to have a Blu Ray player. Hence the topic of this nature that I made... wasn't so much of a "Is it good?" but rather is the Blu Ray player in the PS3 as crap as the DVD player in the PS2 was... but you can't really ask that without getting flamed or modded. Especially with the 360 gamertag in my sig it just looks like I'm being a fanboy idiot at that rate.
The blu ray player on the PS3 was rated the best on the market on cnet when the PS3 launched. There might be better ones coming out in the future.... but I can tell you that the quality of the blu ray player is excellent. With the blu ray controller, I can't figure how it could be any better actually. Blu rays + the gaming experience really make this an awesome system.ACHIEVEMENTS... wait a second.A game like VF5 is the perfect example of a game that would really improve due to achievements/ entitlements, I love using Lei-Fei, and getting him to 10th Dan was a short term goal, achievements would entice me to use characters I normally wouldn't try, unlocking more and more stuff in the process. Meanwhile being able to show my friends what I've done in this otherwise single player game. Hopefully Home will add this.
I am absolutely a fan of rewards and goals.
That being said I just prefer the goal or reward to be something of value.
I'm playing Virtua Fighter 5. There is a fake series of arcades and fake tournaments in that game.
Winning the tournaments can yield you money which you can use to buy items/clothing to customize your character.
That makes perfect sense to me. I am working hard to get these little rewards.
However, if they changed around the game and removed the fake tournaments and reward system...
Then simply changed it over to this:
** Beat every virtua fighter 100 times to earn 100 ACHIEVEMENT points which do nothing in particular.
You know what? Screw that. I would probably tell them to go soak their heads in a bucket of water.
UntoldDreams
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