DANGEROUS BREAKING NEWS: Bethesda Skyrim 1.4 Patch WON'T FIX LAG !!!

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#101 HipHopBeats
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What I love is how fans of it will dismiss all of the problems as if they don't matter. A broken game is a broken game, no matter what it "gets right". Patch after patch after patch to fill up my HDD? No thanks. Either get it right, or don't release it - But patching roads like the state of Illinois (they do a terrible job of upkeep on their roads, almost on purpose to keep contracts alive and union workers endlessly employed instead of fixing anything correctly) is for the birds. GOTY, my ***. And if the folks in the industry DO award it thusly, then we'll all know who received free copies, won't we?

:lol:

My deepest sympathies to everyone who paid full price for the PS3 version. I don't like to see my fellow gamers getting frustrated or ripped off.

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

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I agree. These constant patches are ridiculous. This will be my 1st and last purchase from Bethesda. Wish I would have known about their track record for buggy releases beforehand. Only a true fanboy would attempt to justify and emphathize with a dev who could have waited a few more months or even another year before releasing a broken game and cashing in on the holiday phenomena. Who wants to go through the trouble or disabling auto saves and changing options to enjoy something they spent money on? It's amazing how the PS3 version racked up any awards at all. Until everything is fixed 100%, it will collect dust on my shelf if I don't decide to sell or trade it 1st.

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#102 0rin
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[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

What I love is how fans of it will dismiss all of the problems as if they don't matter. A broken game is a broken game, no matter what it "gets right". Patch after patch after patch to fill up my HDD? No thanks. Either get it right, or don't release it - But patching roads like the state of Illinois (they do a terrible job of upkeep on their roads, almost on purpose to keep contracts alive and union workers endlessly employed instead of fixing anything correctly) is for the birds. GOTY, my ***. And if the folks in the industry DO award it thusly, then we'll all know who received free copies, won't we?

:lol:

My deepest sympathies to everyone who paid full price for the PS3 version. I don't like to see my fellow gamers getting frustrated or ripped off.

Peace on Earth, Good Will Towards Men, Go **** Yourself Bethesda. Ahmen.

HipHopBeats

I agree. These constant patches are ridiculous. This will be my 1st and last purchase from Bethesda. Wish I would have known about their track record for buggy releases beforehand. Only a true fanboy would attempt to justify and emphathize with a dev who could have waited a few more months or even another year before releasing a broken game and cashing in on the holiday phenomena. Who wants to go through the trouble or disabling auto saves and changing options to enjoy something they spent money on? It's amazing how the PS3 version racked up any awards at all. Until everything is fixed 100%, it will collect dust on my shelf if I don't decide to sell or trade it 1st.

Your loss, friend. When all is said and done, Bethesda's games are some of the most fun, time consuming games you'll come across. I agree that releasing "incomplete/superbuggy" games is not an acceptable practice, but unfortunately, it is commonplace nowadays. you will be hard-pressed to find a modern game (particularly one with a large, open world, with nearly infinite paths/choices for the player to make, like one of Bethesda's games) that doesn't have a good amount of little bugs/glitches. It just so happens that Skyrim, which is built on all new tech (new engine/etc) had one or two nearly/game-breaking bugs. again, I'm not trying to justify it here, but at least we know they are working on it. The fact that an official Bethesda representative came to this thread to quell this rumor speaks volumes, and also bolsters my respect for the already awesome company. Sure they take Microsoft's side a lot, but they still put out extremely entertaining games (IMO).
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#103 ShangTsung17
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i used to think skyrim would be a great game.. then i took a glitch to the knee..

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#104 dcelw540
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I'll agree the lag can be an issuse but I haven't found it a game breaking bug, I've been playing for over 45 hours and I haven't once crashed. Whats all the problems everyone is facing?

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#105 ItsEvolution
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I had it freeze up on me three times today, to the point where I had to manually power the PS3 off and on again. It was in the course of playing it for about five hours (time flies when you're playing this thing), so it's not like it was every ten seconds or anything. Again, it's a small price to pay for the content.

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#106 ps2forever
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What lag are we talking about? I haven't encounter any lag at all. Just once or twice with the autosave hiccup but other than that it's been really smooth.

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#107 almossbb
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to summarize:

we got yur money f*** you (no offense to you of course lol)

im glad i didnt buy the game, they dont deserve sales if they are releasing a broken game. to those who bought it, i wish you the best of luck.

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#108 ubernoob20
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What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

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#110 0rin
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Well for starters, my PC would probably lag worse than my PS3, but otherwise, yeah. The PC version is almost always going to be "superior". if you can afford it. also, to advise people to stay away from such epic games because they only own a PS3 is rather silly. Anyone who actually follows these forums/gaming news in general knows what they are getting into when they buy a Bethesda game. But like me, it doesn't really matter, because the games are always immensely fun (when they aren't breaking, lol) its like telling people not to eat ice cream and pastries because they are bad for you, or telling a smoker not to smoke, or an alcoholic not to drink. They all have downsides. But to that person, the benefits clearly outweigh the drawbacks.
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#111 MethodManFTW
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[QUOTE="ubernoob20"]

What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

ShangTsung17

LMFAO!!! 1 post pc fanboy... i'll try and explain this as polite as possible, pc versions will ALWAYS lag and studder, its the price u pay for being able to mod a game... there are controller jacks u can buy but there hell to configure and use... anyone who tells u that graphics are better on a pc is a lying pc fanboy, they are the same except that consoles don't contain the lag *skyrim is obviously a bad example but this is usually true* u will ALWAYS need to upgrade a pc every few months for it to continue to run games to where there atleast playable... decent graphics cards also cost out the @ss, some as much as a console by itself! i could go on and on but whats the point? you're just gonna deny all this anyway... put simply- pc gaming SUCKS MONKEY FVCK THROUGH AN ANAL TUBE!!! why go through all that trouble and money when u can get the same thing on a console without the frusteration of lag, constant updates, virus crashes, hundreds of hardware purchases, ect, ect... ? now bring on the fanboy fibs- lol

Dude... You could not be more wrong.. If you get a good graphics card you can usually last 5ish years on it, maybe more or less depending on your own preference... Most games have native controller support now... and pretty much every console game can run at 1080p and 60fps constantly... Something our consoles can't come close to (save for a very select few games)..
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#112 Jamie3213
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[QUOTE="josh494"]People are overreacting. IGN has created an army of Bethesda Haters just because a huge game is having problems on a console. It's not Bethesda's fault the Sony divided up the memory pool. It's not going to be an easy fix most likely. When it does get patched it will be huge. I have Skyrim on the PS3 with over 40 hours logged on to it. It's only frozen twice which is great compared to Fallout 3/New Vegas which froze a bunch. The game is not broken it's just having trouble. If you want to complain that they are slacking on it and are terrible developers, put your self in their shoes. Skyrim is huge! There are millions of things inside of it. Imagnine the difficulty it would take to find problems and fix them. Also since the problem is PS3 specific they are going to have to rewrite their engine so it caters more to it. That is alot of work and it's going to take time. And guess what people. There are other problems that run across all 3 platforms. Please just be patient and be happy with what you had. Games have come super long way. Especially The Elder Scrolls. Go look at The Elder Scrolls: Arena then realize how lucky you are. / Rant Sorry that was mostly aimed at IGN. They post an new Bethesda Hate article a week. I'm not a troll but i'm ready to be flamed.

This is nothing to do with consoles, I have it on PC and it's crippled. I played for 20 hours with no crashes then I couldn't play for literally more than 15 seconds without the game soft crashing to the desktop. I'm not bothered about quest bugs or glitches because on the whole they don't do much tpo interfere with gameplay but it's another thing when I physically can't play a game. The same was true of Fallout 3 for a significant period of time after launch. I disagree with people saying this game is poor, regardless of crashes and glitches the game is simply amazing!
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#113 Jamie3213
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[QUOTE="ubernoob20"]

What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

ShangTsung17

LMFAO!!! 1 post pc fanboy... i'll try and explain this as polite as possible, pc versions will ALWAYS lag and studder, its the price u pay for being able to mod a game... there are controller jacks u can buy but there hell to configure and use... anyone who tells u that graphics are better on a pc is a lying pc fanboy, they are the same except that consoles don't contain the lag *skyrim is obviously a bad example but this is usually true* u will ALWAYS need to upgrade a pc every few months for it to continue to run games to where there atleast playable... decent graphics cards also cost out the @ss, some as much as a console by itself! i could go on and on but whats the point? you're just gonna deny all this anyway... put simply- pc gaming SUCKS MONKEY FVCK THROUGH AN ANAL TUBE!!! why go through all that trouble and money when u can get the same thing on a console without the frusteration of lag, constant updates, virus crashes, hundreds of hardware purchases, ect, ect... ? now bring on the fanboy fibs- lol

You've obviously never played a PC game if you are under the pretenese that mods cause stutter and lag. You get the same thing on consoles do you? High definition textures, 2560x1600 resolutions, DirectX 11 Tesselations and displacement mapping, superior controls and hordes of amazong mod content. You go back to your pocket calculator of a console and i'll go back to my GTX 560Ti.
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#114 ShangTsung17
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[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

[QUOTE="ubernoob20"]

What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

Jamie3213

LMFAO!!! 1 post pc fanboy... i'll try and explain this as polite as possible, pc versions will ALWAYS lag and studder, its the price u pay for being able to mod a game... there are controller jacks u can buy but there hell to configure and use... anyone who tells u that graphics are better on a pc is a lying pc fanboy, they are the same except that consoles don't contain the lag *skyrim is obviously a bad example but this is usually true* u will ALWAYS need to upgrade a pc every few months for it to continue to run games to where there atleast playable... decent graphics cards also cost out the @ss, some as much as a console by itself! i could go on and on but whats the point? you're just gonna deny all this anyway... put simply- pc gaming SUCKS MONKEY FVCK THROUGH AN ANAL TUBE!!! why go through all that trouble and money when u can get the same thing on a console without the frusteration of lag, constant updates, virus crashes, hundreds of hardware purchases, ect, ect... ? now bring on the fanboy fibs- lol

You've obviously never played a PC game if you are under the pretenese that mods cause stutter and lag. You get the same thing on consoles do you? High definition textures, 2560x1600 resolutions, DirectX 11 Tesselations and displacement mapping, superior controls and hordes of amazong mod content. You go back to your pocket calculator of a console and i'll go back to my GTX 560Ti.

on the contrary, i have several.. postal for example, great game and its fun as hell to mod on it, but like all my pc games it lags like grandma.. now your going to tell me my pc just sucks right? wrong. this laptop cost me over a thousand and i had it specially made for gaming.. but even if u knew this you'd find another excuse, beleave what u want..

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#116 AzinAshe
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I was expecting this...we've had trouble with Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Oblivion for years now...and they still haven't been fixed D: Well Skyrim was still worth it, but not GOTY
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#117 AzinAshe
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[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

[QUOTE="Jamie3213"][QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] LMFAO!!! 1 post pc fanboy... i'll try and explain this as polite as possible, pc versions will ALWAYS lag and studder, its the price u pay for being able to mod a game... there are controller jacks u can buy but there hell to configure and use... anyone who tells u that graphics are better on a pc is a lying pc fanboy, they are the same except that consoles don't contain the lag *skyrim is obviously a bad example but this is usually true* u will ALWAYS need to upgrade a pc every few months for it to continue to run games to where there atleast playable... decent graphics cards also cost out the @ss, some as much as a console by itself! i could go on and on but whats the point? you're just gonna deny all this anyway... put simply- pc gaming SUCKS MONKEY FVCK THROUGH AN ANAL TUBE!!! why go through all that trouble and money when u can get the same thing on a console without the frusteration of lag, constant updates, virus crashes, hundreds of hardware purchases, ect, ect... ? now bring on the fanboy fibs- lol

You've obviously never played a PC game if you are under the pretenese that mods cause stutter and lag. You get the same thing on consoles do you? High definition textures, 2560x1600 resolutions, DirectX 11 Tesselations and displacement mapping, superior controls and hordes of amazong mod content. You go back to your pocket calculator of a console and i'll go back to my GTX 560Ti.

on the contrary, i have several.. postal for example, great game and its fun as hell to mod on it, but like all my pc games it lags like grandma.. now your going to tell me my pc just sucks right? wrong. this laptop cost me over a thousand and i had it specially made for gaming.. but even if u knew this you'd find another excuse, beleave what u want..

I don't understand how it could be so expensive and lag...PCs are a lot better in terms of performance and how they run their games..I don't understand your problem :S
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#118 idunnodude
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ok not everyone has a super PC with amazing performance and graphics to run skyrim. and not everyone is willing to put in the money to make it so. the majority of ppl who play video games have consoles...this is the ps3 forum after all. yeah i know everyone has a computer but it's most likely for other uses than gaming, we have our consoles for gaming. not to mention many ppl live in households with their family or what not that also use the PC. skyrim was developed with consoles in mind so there really isnt any reason that it shouldn't work.

and yeah to all the ppl saying "oh u guys are just crybabies, im 40 hours in or 60 hours in and im playing JUST FINE". thats exactly why you're playing just fine, because you're 60 hours in. i was thinking that too until my save file hit around 8-10MB, THATS when the lag kicks in. so keep feeling all jolly and stuff, ull see what we're talking about when you hit 10MB save file and try playing for more than an hour. whiterun will turn into a slideshow.

they've been developing the game for 5 years, im pretty sure they couldve spared another 100 hours to see it worked properly, especially with their track record on problems like this with their previous games.

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#119 moej88
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Bethesda has a signiture in all its games: Glitches
I'm starting to think that they actually enjoy deploying thier games with glitches and problems....Its been happening over a series of game and if they havent caught on it to it yet then...its on purpose lol
They need better coders

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Registered just to post here, Bethesda NEVER makes a game with console as their main focus or anywhere near that, If you want a good Bethesda game, dump about 1 grand into a custom built PC and get something better then a stupid pre-built PC from some company that charges out the ass just for their stupid logo to be on your PC. You can spend 600$ of a console, I'll spend that on a top of the line CPU and motherboard for overclocking CPUs and GPUs and then get a proper GPU, find the 4k, 8k,etc resolution texture mods for my games and have a much higher quality game then your consoles.
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#121 Pat133780
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[QUOTE="Jamie3213"][QUOTE="ShangTsung17"] LMFAO!!! 1 post pc fanboy... i'll try and explain this as polite as possible, pc versions will ALWAYS lag and studder, its the price u pay for being able to mod a game... there are controller jacks u can buy but there hell to configure and use... anyone who tells u that graphics are better on a pc is a lying pc fanboy, they are the same except that consoles don't contain the lag *skyrim is obviously a bad example but this is usually true* u will ALWAYS need to upgrade a pc every few months for it to continue to run games to where there atleast playable... decent graphics cards also cost out the @ss, some as much as a console by itself! i could go on and on but whats the point? you're just gonna deny all this anyway... put simply- pc gaming SUCKS MONKEY FVCK THROUGH AN ANAL TUBE!!! why go through all that trouble and money when u can get the same thing on a console without the frusteration of lag, constant updates, virus crashes, hundreds of hardware purchases, ect, ect... ? now bring on the fanboy fibs- lol

ShangTsung17

You've obviously never played a PC game if you are under the pretenese that mods cause stutter and lag. You get the same thing on consoles do you? High definition textures, 2560x1600 resolutions, DirectX 11 Tesselations and displacement mapping, superior controls and hordes of amazong mod content. You go back to your pocket calculator of a console and i'll go back to my GTX 560Ti.

on the contrary, i have several.. postal for example, great game and its fun as hell to mod on it, but like all my pc games it lags like grandma.. now your going to tell me my pc just sucks right? wrong. this laptop cost me over a thousand and i had it specially made for gaming.. but even if u knew this you'd find another excuse, beleave what u want..

Alright, really trying not to fall out of my chair laughing at this, if you're referring to the same postal I'm thinking of, you must have wasted 1,000 USD on some really craptastic laptop from before windows 98 since the same postal i'm thinking of came out in 1997 and then after that was the 2nd one in 2003. then postal 3 which is from 2008, all 3 are old as dirt in the gaming world and any PC bought from 2010 to 2011 would have zero problems playing 2 and 3, playing 1 would be impossible without using a VB running 98.
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Registered just to post here, Bethesda NEVER makes a game with console as their main focus or anywhere near that, If you want a good Bethesda game, dump about 1 grand into a custom built PC and get something better then a stupid pre-built PC from some company that charges out the ass just for their stupid logo to be on your PC. You can spend 600$ of a console, I'll spend that on a top of the line CPU and motherboard for overclocking CPUs and GPUs and then get a proper GPU, find the 4k, 8k,etc resolution texture mods for my games and have a much higher quality game then your consoles.Pat133780
who sent u here for that '1' post? obviously dell, gateway, or some other computer company, your argument is discredited... rotfl back on topic- don't beleave this load **** this guy and the other are either pc fanboys, pc reps, or both, in any event they're full of s**t! i had the same exact problem last year till i finally gave up playing games on a pc for good, there unresponsive, full of lag, too expensive, and just plain unrelyable.. my computer was a custom built dell and i could barely play oblivion on it, then i got the game for ps3 and the difference was like a breath of fresh air, no lag, no freeze ups, NO PROBLEMS!!! in other words it played like a normal game, the problem with skyrim is like all multiplats it was designed on a 360 and since its such a huge game it was very hard to convert to ps3, hate to say it but skyrim will never play correctly on a ps3 unless they completely remake it on ps3 which there obviously not gonna do, would cost too much. what i don't get is why the 360 version suffers, cause i own both systems and neither version is playable, and on pc its crappy beyond words, bill gates doesn't own a pc that could run it.

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[QUOTE="Pat133780"]Registered just to post here, Bethesda NEVER makes a game with console as their main focus or anywhere near that, If you want a good Bethesda game, dump about 1 grand into a custom built PC and get something better then a stupid pre-built PC from some company that charges out the ass just for their stupid logo to be on your PC. You can spend 600$ of a console, I'll spend that on a top of the line CPU and motherboard for overclocking CPUs and GPUs and then get a proper GPU, find the 4k, 8k,etc resolution texture mods for my games and have a much higher quality game then your consoles.lotusclown

who sent u here for that '1' post? obviously dell, gateway, or some other computer company, your argument is discredited... rotfl back on topic- don't beleave this load **** this guy and the other are either pc fanboys, pc reps, or both, in any event they're full of s**t! i had the same exact problem last year till i finally gave up playing games on a pc for good, there unresponsive, full of lag, too expensive, and just plain unrelyable.. my computer was a custom built dell and i could barely play oblivion on it, then i got the game for ps3 and the difference was like a breath of fresh air, no lag, no freeze ups, NO PROBLEMS!!! in other words it played like a normal game, the problem with skyrim is like all multiplats it was designed on a 360 and since its such a huge game it was very hard to convert to ps3, hate to say it but skyrim will never play correctly on a ps3 unless they completely remake it on ps3 which there obviously not gonna do, would cost too much. what i don't get is why the 360 version suffers, cause i own both systems and neither version is playable, and on pc its crappy beyond words, bill gates doesn't own a pc that could run it.

And you're doing it wrong but buying from any retail PC company like Dell, if you want a proper PC then you need to buy the PARTS and build the sucker yourself. I run an Intel i7 OC to 5GHz, with a GIGABYTE mobo that supports it, a GTX 590, 16GB of ram, etc, i have a 6GB RAM boot sector just for the whole whopping 5gig install size of Skyrim, which gives me less then 1 second loading screens on any loading screens, I also get the same 60 FPS as you giddy little stuck up console fanboys. And guess what? since I don't waste my fking time with retail companies like Dell and buy my own parts, I spent a little over 1,200 USD on my PC which has more power then any console will have including any future ones. edit: just want to say, Skyrim isn't a HUGE game at all, it's 5 gigs, which is nothing compared to other games right now. Lets look at a game like dead space 2, that game is 18 gigs and a lot older then Skyrim.
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[QUOTE="Pat133780"]Registered just to post here, Bethesda NEVER makes a game with console as their main focus or anywhere near that, If you want a good Bethesda game, dump about 1 grand into a custom built PC and get something better then a stupid pre-built PC from some company that charges out the ass just for their stupid logo to be on your PC. You can spend 600$ of a console, I'll spend that on a top of the line CPU and motherboard for overclocking CPUs and GPUs and then get a proper GPU, find the 4k, 8k,etc resolution texture mods for my games and have a much higher quality game then your consoles.Pat133780

who sent u here for that '1' post? obviously dell, gateway, or some other computer company, your argument is discredited... rotfl back on topic- don't beleave this load **** this guy and the other are either pc fanboys, pc reps, or both, in any event they're full of s**t! i had the same exact problem last year till i finally gave up playing games on a pc for good, there unresponsive, full of lag, too expensive, and just plain unrelyable.. my computer was a custom built dell and i could barely play oblivion on it, then i got the game for ps3 and the difference was like a breath of fresh air, no lag, no freeze ups, NO PROBLEMS!!! in other words it played like a normal game, the problem with skyrim is like all multiplats it was designed on a 360 and since its such a huge game it was very hard to convert to ps3, hate to say it but skyrim will never play correctly on a ps3 unless they completely remake it on ps3 which there obviously not gonna do, would cost too much. what i don't get is why the 360 version suffers, cause i own both systems and neither version is playable, and on pc its crappy beyond words, bill gates doesn't own a pc that could run it.

And you're doing it wrong but buying from any retail PC company like Dell, if you want a proper PC then you need to buy the PARTS and build the sucker yourself. I run an Intel i7 OC to 5GHz, with a GIGABYTE mobo that supports it, a GTX 590, 16GB of ram, etc, i have a 6GB RAM boot sector just for the whole whopping 5gig install size of Skyrim, which gives me less then 1 second loading screens on any loading screens, I also get the same 60 FPS as you giddy little stuck up console fanboys. And guess what? since I don't waste my fking time with retail companies like Dell and buy my own parts, I spent a little over 1,200 USD on my PC which has more power then any console will have including any future ones. edit: just want to say, Skyrim isn't a HUGE game at all, it's 5 gigs, which is nothing compared to other games right now. Lets look at a game like dead space 2, that game is 18 gigs and a lot older then Skyrim.

(((APPLAUSE))) glad for u, sorry not all of us can be einstein pc tec geeks like u jr. u must be very proud of yourself. skyrim isn't a huge game, omg your a dumb*ss! where are u getting this s**t load of f**k? nevermind, i'm done arguing with a spoiled child. lol

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#125 Pat133780
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(((APPLAUSE))) glad for u, sorry not all of us can be einstein pc tec geeks like u jr. u must be very proud of yourself. skyrim isn't a huge game, omg your a dumb*ss! where are u getting this s**t load of f**k? nevermind, i'm done arguing with a spoiled child. lollotusclown
Well telling from how piss poor your grammar skills are, I do believe you're the child here, and I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be your father. Also Skyrim is a pretty tiny game to install, again it is 5 gigabytes in size, so if you really thing that is huge, you have no idea what is a large game.
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#126 idunnodude
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this is pathetic, no one is gonna spend thousands on a pc just for this game, nor should they have to lol wth. read my last post. this is nerd rage if ive ever seen it.

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#127 lotusclown
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[QUOTE="lotusclown"] (((APPLAUSE))) glad for u, sorry not all of us can be einstein pc tec geeks like u jr. u must be very proud of yourself. skyrim isn't a huge game, omg your a dumb*ss! where are u getting this s**t load of f**k? nevermind, i'm done arguing with a spoiled child. lolPat133780
Well telling from how piss poor your grammar skills are, I do believe you're the child here, and I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be your father. Also Skyrim is a pretty tiny game to install, again it is 5 gigabytes in size, so if you really thing that is huge, you have no idea what is a large game.

just drop it dude, i have my opinion and u have yours, besides we're really swimming off topic here with this pc vs console debate and disrespecting the op, i'm sayin the reason the 1.4 patch ain't going to fix skyrim is cause they would need to remake the entire game from scratch to truly fix it, i knew the game was hopeless when they first announced a second patch, i mean honestly how many games have ever needed to do that? we do however need to quit bashing bethesda cause atleast they tried, they could have just said screw it and denied or ignored the problem completely, i think a lot of people are forgetting that.

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#128 Pat133780
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[QUOTE="Pat133780"][QUOTE="lotusclown"] (((APPLAUSE))) glad for u, sorry not all of us can be einstein pc tec geeks like u jr. u must be very proud of yourself. skyrim isn't a huge game, omg your a dumb*ss! where are u getting this s**t load of f**k? nevermind, i'm done arguing with a spoiled child. lollotusclown

Well telling from how piss poor your grammar skills are, I do believe you're the child here, and I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be your father. Also Skyrim is a pretty tiny game to install, again it is 5 gigabytes in size, so if you really thing that is huge, you have no idea what is a large game.

just drop it dude, i have my opinion and u have yours, besides we're really swimming off topic here with this pc vs console debate and disrespecting the op, i'm sayin the reason the 1.4 patch ain't going to fix skyrim is cause they would need to remake the entire game from scratch to truly fix it, i knew the game was hopeless when they first announced a second patch, i mean honestly how many games have ever needed to do that? we do however need to quit bashing bethesda cause atleast they tried, they could have just said screw it and denied or ignored the problem completely, i think a lot of people are forgetting that.

This just in, games should never require patching and should always be 100% bug free. Sorry to burst your bubble but 100% of games made today will almost always have bugs, will almost always require patching, even if people think the games "perfect" there will be bugs that they don't see because it is more advanced and in the code of the game and doesn't effect the gameplay of the game at that time.
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#129 Pat133780
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Once consoles can do this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=lVAA_lmoDwY&annotation_id=annotation_263040&v=XwHVKuytXU8 then maybe consoles will be good enough for proper gaming. edit: on the topic of skyrim - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3RfjEoMBXc
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#130 craigalan23
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Bethesda always releases extrememly buggy games.. Not sure why this surprises anyone.
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#131 lotusclown
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yea but this one's a total disaster, the others were atleast playable.

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#132 Sokol4ever
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I'm still holding on with Skyrim purchase since I don't have proper PC to give it justice, however I did read an article today stating 1.4 patch will resolve PS3 frame rate issues on N4G. I had been waiting for proper patch to address the issue as I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. Either way, I'm willing to spend my hard earned money on Skyrim but all the negative attention that the game is non playable after certain period is holding me back. I hope it gets fixed eventually.
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#133 dcelw540
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Eveyone calm down, it's been cofirmed that the next update will help with the lag so calm down now...

Source: http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1216204p1.html

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#134 lotusclown
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I'm still holding on with Skyrim purchase since I don't have proper PC to give it justice, however I did read an article today stating 1.4 patch will resolve PS3 frame rate issues on N4G. I had been waiting for proper patch to address the issue as I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. Either way, I'm willing to spend my hard earned money on Skyrim but all the negative attention that the game is non playable after certain period is holding me back. I hope it gets fixed eventually. Sokol4ever
same reason i haven't got it yet, sucks too cause i really want this game.

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#135 LeifLongbottom
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What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

ubernoob20

This, so much of THIS^

I don't know what Bethesda has against the PS3 but it's obvious that they don't give a crap about anything they release for it.

If I do ever get Skyrim (or any Bethesda game) again, it will be for the PC, and well after launch too. Those modders are usually the only ones that can get the game working but it takes them a few months; still, they'll fix it quicker than Bethesda. Not to mention free dlc.

If my ps3 copies of Fallout 3 & New Vegas weren't STILL constantly freezing and if it wasn't the same exact huge game breaking problems over and over again, I would cut Bethesda a little slack...just a little.

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#136 lotusclown
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[QUOTE="ubernoob20"]

What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

LeifLongbottom

This, so much of THIS^

I don't know what Bethesda has against the PS3 but it's obvious that they don't give a crap about anything they release for it.

If I do ever get Skyrim (or any Bethesda game) again, it will be for the PC, and well after launch too. Those modders are usually the only ones that can get the game working but it takes them a few months; still, they'll fix it quicker than Bethesda. Not to mention free dlc.

If my ps3 copies of Fallout 3 & New Vegas weren't STILL constantly freezing and if it wasn't the same exact huge game breaking problems over and over again, I would cut Bethesda a little slack...just a little.

i've often heard its because multiplat games are developed on 360 then ported over to ps3 for its version, because its a lot harder to design games on a ps3 for some reason, thats why it often gets stiffed on multiplats, its not just bethesda its most game companies, and its nothing personal or against the ps3 system its just that companies aren't about to waste more time, money, and effort than they have to just to ensure both versions of a game are identical.

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#137 LeifLongbottom
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[QUOTE="LeifLongbottom"]

[QUOTE="ubernoob20"]

What i don't understand is why everyone always buys the console versions..

The PC version will never suffer the same issues for one simple reason. Modders, you get extra FREE content which in many ways bests even the best DLCs Bethseda can produce...look at Nehrim for Oblivion, the countless high quality armor/weapon mods.ES games have always been buggy and will continue to remain so, there's no reason for them to fix something that they KNOW modders will in subsequent months. Bethseda also do tend to shaft PS3 users, look at how the Oblivion DLCs were released for the PS3.

Bottom line is Bethseda games are epic, especially on the PC. But stay far far away if you're purely a PS3 player

lotusclown

This, so much of THIS^

I don't know what Bethesda has against the PS3 but it's obvious that they don't give a crap about anything they release for it.

If I do ever get Skyrim (or any Bethesda game) again, it will be for the PC, and well after launch too. Those modders are usually the only ones that can get the game working but it takes them a few months; still, they'll fix it quicker than Bethesda. Not to mention free dlc.

If my ps3 copies of Fallout 3 & New Vegas weren't STILL constantly freezing and if it wasn't the same exact huge game breaking problems over and over again, I would cut Bethesda a little slack...just a little.

i've often heard its because multiplat games are developed on 360 then ported over to ps3 for its version, because its a lot harder to design games on a ps3 for some reason, thats why it often gets stiffed on multiplats, its not just bethesda its most game companies, and its nothing personal or against the ps3 system its just that companies aren't about to waste more time, money, and effort than they have to just to ensure both versions of a game are identical.

Sure some of the blame lies with Sony, if only for just not enforcing some standards. I'll not argue with that. Just look at the firmware support we've gotten with the ps3 and you can imagine how unhelpful they are to devs.

However at this point because they don't want to "waste" money on QC, their customers end up wasting their money on a broken game.

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#138 survivor9712
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Glad I didn't buy it then.I'm going for PC this time as these type of games are originally developed for that. I hope to see some changes as I have immensely injoyed FO3 on the ps3, and FNV after the big patch.
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#139 LeifLongbottom
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Glad I didn't buy it then.I'm going for PC this time as these type of games are originally developed for that. I hope to see some changes as I have immensely injoyed FO3 on the ps3, and FNV after the big patch.survivor9712

The Big Patch didn't help mewith the freezing or lag in New Vegas. Still, I wish I had waited for that. By that time the price dropped to $20.

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#140 crazycoonass666
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I buy a pair of shoes for $70. I take them home, put them on, and one of the eyelets fall out. Ok, I can still use the shoes like that, they still work kinda like they are supposed too, however, I paid for a shiny new pair of finished undamaged shoes. So I bring them back and they refund my $70 bucks, no questions asked. Why the f@ck should Skyrim be any different! I don't give a crap about "how large and open the game world is." or "how hard it is to get everything exactly right before deadline." Selling a broken product and not offering a refund to those consumers who demand quality product is bad business. Personally, I have a very full family life, a home, a rental, two kids, a wife and a dog. If I get an hour to play a day, I'm lucky. To bad I have to peruse the internet finding workarounds for glitches with time I could actually spend playing. This will mostdefiantlybe the last Bethesda title I buy before I rent it 1st.

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lol, Fallout 3 > Skyrim
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#142 bethesdasuks
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I own skyrim on ps3. Ive been getting a kick outa people being positive about its issues. Let me clear a couple thngs up. It just gets worse and worse as time goes on. Ive logged 158 hours into the game. I can no longer play the game for more than 5 mins without a freeze. During that 5 mins im plagued by horriable lag. My memory is up to 18mb. I worked on my smithing alot in hopes of owning dragon armour. I am or i was as i should say lv 93 smithing. It is now impossible for me to wear the armour the game was intended for me to wear! I havnt hit the level cap and i havnt explored everything. I started a new game and got kicked back to main screen shortly after opening cutseens. My system is free of space and running fine with all other games. As u can tell i did play the crap outa it. Regardless i should be able to make and use items that the game was created to use. I should be able to get my low skills up. I should be able to explore all of skyrim. NO MATTER WHAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE GAME THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE ENJOYED WHEN I PAYED $60 FOR IT! I cant see patched fixing game freezes 5 mins into it. All u positive people out there still praising bethesda with ur 8 mb, i have two words. JUST WAIT!
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#143 live-a-live
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I own skyrim on ps3. Ive been getting a kick outa people being positive about its issues. Let me clear a couple thngs up. It just gets worse and worse as time goes on. Ive logged 158 hours into the game. I can no longer play the game for more than 5 mins without a freeze. During that 5 mins im plagued by horriable lag. My memory is up to 18mb. I worked on my smithing alot in hopes of owning dragon armour. I am or i was as i should say lv 93 smithing. It is now impossible for me to wear the armour the game was intended for me to wear! I havnt hit the level cap and i havnt explored everything. I started a new game and got kicked back to main screen shortly after opening cutseens. My system is free of space and running fine with all other games. As u can tell i did play the crap outa it. Regardless i should be able to make and use items that the game was created to use. I should be able to get my low skills up. I should be able to explore all of skyrim. NO MATTER WHAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE GAME THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE ENJOYED WHEN I PAYED $60 FOR IT! I cant see patched fixing game freezes 5 mins into it. All u positive people out there still praising bethesda with ur 8 mb, i have two words. JUST WAIT!bethesdasuks
the fact that the issue was bad enough for this guy to create an account for this post speaks volumes.
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#145 GaMeR_Willz
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I won't be getting a game from Bethesda again. Screw them.

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#148 mitu123
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How? Wasn't that the point of that patch?

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#149 ZzNashoO
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I would just try manning up and getting a 360. I have heard nothing but problems about the PS3... I have a 360 and rarely experience any problems. Xbox 360 won over a lot of the gaming market so better and more finished titles and versions appear on it. My friends that own both systems have not hooked up their PS3 in months. Its just an inferior system which is maybe why Bethesda (or many multi-platform games) don't waste their breath on it.
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#150 live-a-live
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ehhhh some guy made two accounts (mrhunt and nashoo) just to troll? u give xbox360 owners a bad name, you know? thanks for the opinion though.