Did Ninja Gaiden 2 got watered down?

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#1 -CUBE-
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I'm a noob when it comes to action games, I couldn't even finish Ninja Gaiden 1, and I wanted to cry from getting beaten up by the lowest ranked ninjas in it. xD

I remember d/l NG2 demo on my xbox360 months ago, and I couldn't even beat the damn ninjas in the first area. xP But when I played Sigma2 I beat the crap out of every ninja that was in my way. I didn't lose more than 10% of my health the whole demo. I tried playing though the demo again with the unlocked difficulty, and I still was able to beat anything with ease using only one health potion.

I think they toned down the difficulty too much..and that's coming from someone who would cry from hearing the word Ninja gaiden. xD

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#2 KapG
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just wait and see lol....

just wait and see

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#3 kkevguy47k
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theres a demo?!?

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#4 MrGanny
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theres a demo?!?

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Yeah, Japanese store.

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#5 MorbidToaster
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Yeah, they talked about all of this in a few interviews and press releases, and I think I agree.

The original NG 2 was WAY over the top to the point it distracted you from the game sometimes...Glad they toned it down a little.

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#6 TriangleHard
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I've read the difficulty being toned down.

Something I'm kind of glad it happened.

BUT I hope co-op has insane difficulty. Otherwise it will lose a lot of meaning.

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#7 Flame_Blade88
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I could have sworn I read that it will have adaptive gameplay, like if you're getting your ass kicked, the difficulty would tone down a bit to the point to where you could eventually pass it, can't confirm if that's true or not, but I like that idea.
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#8 MorbidToaster
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I've read the difficulty being toned down.

Something I'm kind of glad it happened.

BUT I hope co-op has insane difficulty. Otherwise it will lose a lot of meaning.

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The second game wasn't that hard already. Kind of mad they toned THAT down. The co-op was a good idea, but the gameplay looks terrible....It's got that same screen brawler co-op. Usually, that's a good thing, but in Ninja Gaiden...I feel like it was a bad idea.
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#9 K1LLR3175
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They toned down the difficulty because alot of people complained about how cheap some of the enemies were. They also took away alot of the blood.
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#10 sa10kun
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They toned down the difficulty because alot of people complained about how cheap some of the enemies were. They also took away alot of the blood.K1LLR3175

I hate the fact that the blood is gone. I thought I wouldn't mind it at first but some of the visceral slices seem to lose their impact when there is no blood. I hope they bring it back in the final version as an option.

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[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]They toned down the difficulty because alot of people complained about how cheap some of the enemies were. They also took away alot of the blood.sa10kun

I hate the fact that the blood is gone. I thought I wouldn't mind it at first but some of the visceral slices seem to lose their impact when there is no blood. I hope they bring it back in the final version as an option.

I doubt they will. Not sure why they replace blood with purple stuff.
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#12 sa10kun
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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]They toned down the difficulty because alot of people complained about how cheap some of the enemies were. They also took away alot of the blood.K1LLR3175

I hate the fact that the blood is gone. I thought I wouldn't mind it at first but some of the visceral slices seem to lose their impact when there is no blood. I hope they bring it back in the final version as an option.

I doubt they will. Not sure why they replace blood with purple stuff.

Haha I guess the ninjas didn't drink sunny d.

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#13 grand17
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i dont understand why people say ng:s was hard??? i had no problems with it and i dont normally play games like that
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[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"][QUOTE="sa10kun"]

I hate the fact that the blood is gone. I thought I wouldn't mind it at first but some of the visceral slices seem to lose their impact when there is no blood. I hope they bring it back in the final version as an option.

sa10kun

I doubt they will. Not sure why they replace blood with purple stuff.

Haha I guess the ninjas didn't drink sunny d.

LOL Dave Chappelle.
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i dont understand why people say ng:s was hard??? i had no problems with it and i dont normally play games like thatgrand17
It wasn't as hard as the original. They toned it down for S1 too.
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i dont understand why people say ng:s was hard??? i had no problems with it and i dont normally play games like thatgrand17
What difficulty did you play it on?
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#17 BigBoss712
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Watch the gametrailers interview, yes they toned down some areas and balance it a bit to create a more consistent level of difficulty.

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[QUOTE="sa10kun"]

[QUOTE="K1LLR3175"]They toned down the difficulty because alot of people complained about how cheap some of the enemies were. They also took away alot of the blood.K1LLR3175

I hate the fact that the blood is gone. I thought I wouldn't mind it at first but some of the visceral slices seem to lose their impact when there is no blood. I hope they bring it back in the final version as an option.

I doubt they will. Not sure why they replace blood with purple stuff.

they did it because over in the pacific when this game was released, the rating was the equivalent of a NA rating of "AO". As a result of having that rating a lot of retailers wouldn't even bother carrying it in their stores and thus sales were limited.

They took the blood out so more retailers in the pacific would stock and thus sell the game.

There should DEFINITELY be an option to amp up the blood though. Even though I was so looking forward to gettign this game I am starting to second guess myself. Why the heck do I want to see purple and blue streamers when I am slicing someones arm or head off? Somewhat STUPID if you ask me.

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Watch the gametrailers interview, yes they toned down some areas and balance it a bit to create a more consistent level of difficulty.

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yeah, but the toned it down too much. I mean, I wasn't able to beat the first area in the demo on my 360, while in Sigma2 I was able to beat the whole demo on hard with ease.
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#20 sa10kun
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[QUOTE="BigBoss712"]

Watch the gametrailers interview, yes they toned down some areas and balance it a bit to create a more consistent level of difficulty.

-CUBE-

yeah, but the toned it down too much. I mean, I wasn't able to beat the first area in the demo on my 360, while in Sigma2 I was able to beat the whole demo on hard with ease.

There was a hard? I thought it was only easy and medium.

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#21 K1LLR3175
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Nope there are three difficulties in the demo I believe.
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#22 sa10kun
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Nope there are three difficulties in the demo I believe.K1LLR3175

Weird I thought I only saw two. Oh well.

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You can unlock up to Master Ninja in the demo. I finished MN on the 360 version and comparing the first two levels, I like what Sigma is doing much better. Less cheese and projectile spam and the enemies are tougher to delimb and kill.

Also Ayane is awesome :P

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#24 K1LLR3175
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You can unlock up to Master Ninja in the demo. I finished MN on the 360 version and comparing the first two levels, I like what Sigma is doing much better. Less cheese and projectile spam and the enemies are tougher to delimb and kill.

Also Ayane is awesome :P

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dear OP , wait and see my friend, wait and see LOL
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[QUOTE="-CUBE-"][QUOTE="BigBoss712"]

Watch the gametrailers interview, yes they toned down some areas and balance it a bit to create a more consistent level of difficulty.

sa10kun

yeah, but the toned it down too much. I mean, I wasn't able to beat the first area in the demo on my 360, while in Sigma2 I was able to beat the whole demo on hard with ease.

There was a hard? I thought it was only easy and medium.

I don't know about the 360 demo 'cause I didn't beat it. But on the PS3 demo, if you beat the demo on easy or normal, you unlock Ayane and Hard mode. Beat it again on Hard mode, and you unlock the master mode, which is -from what I noticed- is the same as normal mode, but the enemy attacks usually kills you with two or three attacks. As for Ayane, there's only one difficulty, beating it unlocks the multiplayer mode.
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#27 -CUBE-
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You can unlock up to Master Ninja in the demo. I finished MN on the 360 version and comparing the first two levels, I like what Sigma is doing much better. Less cheese and projectile spam and the enemies are tougher to delimb and kill.

Also Ayane is awesome :P

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Did you beat it on master difficulty? I only tried twice, the first time I was "lol, the enemies are the same ones on the normal difficulty. xD I'm gonna vut through them like there's no tomorrow" of course the first second I got hit by two attacks and died xD The second time I managed to evade their attacks...but I got killed by one shot from these one arm/leg enemies. :P but idk, it doesn't feel that I'll have a hard time if I went at another time.
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#28 -CUBE-
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dear OP , wait and see my friend, wait and see LOLNeoSlyfer
I don't get the wait and see thing :P thats the second time someone posted it. I know cows used to say it a lot in SW, but what does this have to do with ninja gaiden?
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[QUOTE="PsiCrisis"]

You can unlock up to Master Ninja in the demo. I finished MN on the 360 version and comparing the first two levels, I like what Sigma is doing much better. Less cheese and projectile spam and the enemies are tougher to delimb and kill.

Also Ayane is awesome :P

-CUBE-

Did you beat it on master difficulty? I only tried twice, the first time I was "lol, the enemies are the same ones on the normal difficulty. xD I'm gonna vut through them like there's no tomorrow" of course the first second I got hit by two attacks and died xD The second time I managed to evade their attacks...but I got killed by one shot from these one arm/leg enemies. :P but idk, it doesn't feel that I'll have a hard time if I went at another time.

Yeah I finished everything in the demo except the second acolyte team mission which I'll do later. If one of those white ninjas grabs you on master ninja, it's pretty much a one hit kill. It's definitely easier than MN on the 360 but I like they way they balanced it. You still have to be careful not to get hit but whenever I did, I felt like it was my fault and not the game being cheap.

Also keep in mind that the demo is only the first part of the first level and you start with level 3 weapons and ninpo. Though I'm sure it will be easier...I wouldn't want to play a game harder than NG2 anyways.

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Yeah I finished everything in the demo except the second acolyte team mission which I'll do later. If one of those white ninjas grabs you on master ninja, it's pretty much a one hit kill. It's definitely easier than MN on the 360 but I like they way they balanced it. You still have to be careful not to get hit but whenever I did, I felt like it was my fault and not the game being cheap.

Also keep in mind that the demo is only the first part of the first level and you start with level 3 weapons and ninpo. Though I'm sure it will be easier...I wouldn't want to play a game harder than NG2 anyways.

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Yeah I noticed this too, I played NG2's demo along time ago, but I remember getting furestated from the cheap attacks. in NGS2's demo, even on MN I always felt that it was my fault whenever I got hit. Hopfully, the rest of the game well be as balanced.
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#31 groundgamer
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Yes. Less blood and more colours.
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#32 anime_gamer007
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I didn't enjoy the demo at all. I never played Ninja Gaiden 2 on the 360, but Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is (judging from the demo) absolutely terrible, much worst Ninja Gaiden Sigma which I didn't enjoy a whole lot. The camera was way too terrible and the controls were very bad. It's was a just a stupid and frustrating demo and hard in a bad way.

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#33 BPoole96
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Nope there are three difficulties in the demo I believe.K1LLR3175

You'll unlock a fourth one if you beat the hardest one before that. It's Master Ninja and it's pretty tough. I even died like 4 times before I beat it

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#34 Swift_Boss_A
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Less blood and forgiving difficulty compared ot NG2. Now I personally don't care about the lack of gore as the gameplay and extra content more then makes up for it and if I want a challenge I'll just select one of the many higher difficulties that Sigma 2 will have.

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#35 verbalfilth
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watered down? I hope not.... It may be a stretch but I'm hoping its harder, if not as hard, as Black.
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#36 BPoole96
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Less blood and forgiving difficulty compared ot NG2. Now I personally don't care about the lack of gore as the gameplay and extra content more then makes up for it and if I want a challenge I'll just select one of the many higher difficulties that Sigma 2 will have.

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Master Ninja is more than enough challenge. Some of the enemies have one hit kill attacks. I was playing it on Master Ninja last night and it still hold the higher difficulty the NG is known for. If you don't die by the one hit kill attacks, it only takes 2-3 regular attacks and you're dead. Can't wait to play the whole game on Master ninja!

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#37 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Less blood and forgiving difficulty compared ot NG2. Now I personally don't care about the lack of gore as the gameplay and extra content more then makes up for it and if I want a challenge I'll just select one of the many higher difficulties that Sigma 2 will have.

BPoole96

Master Ninja is more than enough challenge. Some of the enemies have one hit kill attacks. I was playing it on Master Ninja last night and it still hold the higher difficulty the NG is known for. If you don't die by the one hit kill attacks, it only takes 2-3 regular attacks and you're dead. Can't wait to play the whole game on Master ninja!

likewise :D man the game is gonna be so sweet...