Discuss new GTAIV: Move Up, Ladies Trailer here

"Are you in big guy..... or we have to kill ya"

"Well.... Since you put it that way.....I'm In"

I thought the trailer was pretty cool.. it show more of the story side... I didn't know if any of that was gameplay or not. Can somebody confirm if the graphics has been down graded or it still the same from the last two trailers.

this trailer really opened my eyes to what a mediocre game this is going to turn out to be. The figures look like they should belong in a ps2 game. This dfinetly tells me that rockstar cnt move to next gen.

is it just me or does it seem the graphics have improved considerably?icehawk001987

Yea they did improve alot.i dontknwo what killerkane is talking about.IT looks amazing!after a while of no new info this is an awesome trailer it shows a lot of new things.

Graphics....graphics...... graphics that is all people worry about!!!

Im saying that thr are soo many jaggies an the characters move like their puppets on strings.killerkane246

Great, don't buy it, more copies for real GTA fans.

Graphics....graphics...... graphics that is all people worry about!!!

Ericvon71

Completely agree with you dude. And did any gta game have good enough ones to talk about like. People are overly dependent on graphics.

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Graphics....graphics...... graphics that is all people worry about!!!

corcaigh6

Completely agree with you dude. And did any gta game have good enough ones to talk about like. People are overly dependent on graphics.

Im saying that thr are soo many jaggies an the characters move like their puppets on strings.killerkane246

thats what GTA is about though

they are not about high end graphics, more about fun gameplay and they havent once let me down there

its not the graphics im that worried about. The thing is i dnt want to get a game that looks like the framerate is as good as a slideshow.killerkane246

Didn't know you could dig a hole with your foot in your mouth...

its not the graphics im that worried about. The thing is i dnt want to get a game that looks like the framerate is as good as a slideshow.killerkane246

I'm with you. The textures and polygon count are adequate but come on people if the game play is OUTSTANDINGLY FUN then it will be severely handicapped buy poor animations, screen tear and sub 30fps framerate. Admit it GRAPHICS DO MATER.

Graphics....graphics...... graphics that is all people worry about!!!

Ericvon71

thats what 360 fanboys care about these days and sometimes PS3 fanboys. MS fanboys even say 360 games have better graphics then PS3 games :roll:. even nintendo fanboys say gameplay>>>>graphics and I agree with them cuz back then it was all about gameplaybut this gen its all about graphics instead of just playing and enjoying the games.

I loved the trailer, the only thing I would say is that I'm not a fan of trailers that have dynamic cameras. What I mean is, is that I would love to see some gameplay from the perspective that we would see it on our TVs and not by some neat camera trick to show off game detail. I'm just dying to see how things look from a in-game perspective, especially the new gunplay and cover system.

That aside, I loved the trailers and it only adds to the immense excitement I have for the game.

this trailer really opened my eyes to what a mediocre game this is going to turn out to be. The figures look like they should belong in a ps2 game. This dfinetly tells me that rockstar cnt move to next gen.

killerkane246

I agree with you dude.That's why i bought a 500$ system so i can see the difference in the graphics and the gameplay and you're right that rockstar cant deliver it

I loved the trailer, the only thing I would say is that I'm not a fan of trailers that have dynamic cameras. What I mean is, is that I would love to see some gameplay from the perspective that we would see it on our TVs and not by some neat camera trick to show off game detail. I'm just dying to see how things look from a in-game perspective, especially the new gunplay and cover system.

That aside, I loved the trailers and it only adds to the immense excitement I have for the game.

nyc05

I dunno...i personally found some things about the graphics pretty solid and others just average...but i would hope they fix the frame rate that i agree with...The graphics look better then Saints Row and that was enjoyable...I think ppl are just expecting way to much from Rochstar...let them do their work and when the final product comes out THEN we can criticize or praise it.

I dunno...i personally found some things about the graphics pretty solid and others just average...but i would hope they fix the frame rate that i agree with...The graphics look better then Saints Row and that was enjoyable...I think ppl are just expecting way to much from Rockstar...let them do their work and when the final product comes out THEN we can criticize or praise it. As for the trailer i thought it was pretty good to, just wish they showed some gameplay...that i cant wait to see

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this trailer really opened my eyes to what a mediocre game this is going to turn out to be. The figures look like they should belong in a ps2 game. This dfinetly tells me that rockstar cnt move to next gen.

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I agree with you dude.That's why i bought a 500$ system so i can see the difference in the graphics and the gameplay and you're right that rockstar cant deliver it

Sn0wOn420

graphics don't sell games, gameplay does

Good trailer, it showed more action and intoduced Niko's cousin and other story elements, but I have to agree with some other users, the gfx realy are last gen, at most in the same level as Wii's, and now that AsC proved to be a repetitive glitchy game there's only Borderlands to look for in the open ended/sandbox genre....FireFalkon

graphics don't sell games, gameplay does

killerkane246

Thats cute:|

I'm surprised at how many people are disappointed with the graphics. I think it looks very good, especially when you take into consideration the fact that the whole game is loaded at once, the city is huge, the cars, pedestrians, interiors, particle effects, the day/night/weather cycles, lighting, gunplay, the detail on the buildings....there's so much that goes into a game like this so when you take everything into account, I'm very impressed.nyc05

Yeah but Assassins Creed has a similar Sand Box city times 3, and it looks vastly more impressive then GTA. Plus AC had 150 NPC's pretty much on screen all the time and you rarely saw duplicates. All the character models looked beautiful in AC, but the main character, character model even looks pretty low poly in GTA, compared to other games.

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graphics don't sell games, gameplay does

analog10

Thats cute:|

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graphics don't sell games, gameplay does

FireFalkon

Thats cute:|

Thanks Wii...

That was the case last generation, but this generation people definitely have more emphasis on graphics. and graphics can make or break a game nowadays.

Thanks Wii...

That was the case last generation, but this generation people definitely have more emphasis on graphics. and graphics can make or break a game nowadays.

Liquid-Prince

The game looks freakin' great. I can't wait! :D

I don't understand what the haters' problem is...

Awesome trailer, I hope they fix the framerate and screen tearing though..spikeydude97323

Just think..these game trailers are probably coming from xbox360 hardware. and the game is being PORTED over. I'm VERY worried that framerates and jaggies are gonna be even worse on the ps3.

There are too many idiots and geniuses both posting in this thread to quote you all, so i'm going to just say my opinion

The detail graphics are good... Backgrounds, vehicles, buildings, etc. The characters suck, their movements suck except for their mouths and the speaking, that is SPOT ON. However, character development and movement resembles PS2 style graphics to me.

Why do graphics matter?

Because that's what next gen gaming is all about!!!!! Improved graphics! Why dump all that technology into the new and improved playstation if you're not going to use it?? Gameplay has nothing to do with the current PS3. Rockstar could have made this game for PS2 with a smaller map and identical gameplay. I'm NOT saying gameplay isnt important, what I'm saying is that gameplay is not all about technology, it's about delivering new and different actions, motions, and activities. I want Uncharted graphics with EVERY game. That needs to be the standard, and that's really all there is to say about it. If one game can make it happen, they all need to. Otherwise, you're just straight up not getting what you paid for. If that satisfies you, then you really need to evaluate how much you value the dollar bill. I wanna get what I paid for and after playing Uncharted, that's what I expect. That being said, I'm not saying Uncharted is the best game out there, but its hard to argue that it's graphics aren't the best we've seen to date.

There are too many idiots and geniuses both posting in this thread to quote you all, so i'm going to just say my opinion

The detail graphics are good... Backgrounds, vehicles, buildings, etc. The characters suck, their movements suck except for their mouths and the speaking, that is SPOT ON. However, character development and movement resembles PS2 style graphics to me.

Why do graphics matter?

Because that's what next gen gaming is all about!!!!! Improved graphics! Why dump all that technology into the new and improved playstation if you're not going to use it?? Gameplay has nothing to do with the current PS3. Rockstar could have made this game for PS2 with a smaller map and identical gameplay. I'm NOT saying gameplay isnt important, what I'm saying is that gameplay is not all about technology, it's about delivering new and different actions, motions, and activities. I want Uncharted graphics with EVERY game. That needs to be the standard, and that's really all there is to say about it. If one game can make it happen, they all need to. Otherwise, you're just straight up not getting what you paid for. If that satisfies you, then you really need to evaluate how much you value the dollar bill. I wanna get what I paid for and after playing Uncharted, that's what I expect. That being said, I'm not saying Uncharted is the best game out there, but its hard to argue that it's graphics aren't the best we've seen to date.

tonyandsteff

This is pretty much an elaborate version of what I said.

I don't think anyone was looking for best graphics we've EVER seen from this game. I think it's simply too large of a game for that to even be a reasonable hope. What I'm comparing this to are San Andreas and the enviroment, car models, and everything about GTA IV looks far better than San Andreas did to me.

Personally, I feel like pointing out issues with a trailer like framerate and tearing is just pointless. I don't care how the trailer plays, I care how the game plays. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if the frame rate is 30fps. I'll be thrilled if it is steady, because then all that matters is the fun factor and in my opinion that's always been where GTA games have thrived.