Discuss new GTAIV: Move Up, Ladies Trailer here

I don't think anyone was looking for best graphics we've EVER seen from this game. I think it's simply too large of a game for that to even be a reasonable hope. What I'm comparing this to are San Andreas and the enviroment, car models, and everything about GTA IV looks far better than San Andreas did to me.

Personally, I feel like pointing out issues with a trailer like framerate and tearing is just pointless. I don't care how the trailer plays, I care how the game plays. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if the frame rate is 30fps. I'll be thrilled if it is steady, because then all that matters is the fun factor and in my opinion that's always been where GTA games have thrived.

The_Rick_14

I completely agree with your first paragraph. But I think that it is valid to air concerns about framerates and screen tear from this "latest" trailer as it is all we have to go on about how the game is progressing. I can handle a 30fps framerate so long as the game world is MASSIVE and there is no drop in the framerate.

What I find concerning is that even though its just a trailer, and cut scenes at that, it is not smooth. In fact it looked like stop go animation. I expect a lot from this game but not in the graphics department per say, more within how the game runs, enemy AI, NPC AI, physics and so on.

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"]

I don't think anyone was looking for best graphics we've EVER seen from this game. I think it's simply too large of a game for that to even be a reasonable hope. What I'm comparing this to are San Andreas and the enviroment, car models, and everything about GTA IV looks far better than San Andreas did to me.

Personally, I feel like pointing out issues with a trailer like framerate and tearing is just pointless. I don't care how the trailer plays, I care how the game plays. As far as I'm concerned, I don't care if the frame rate is 30fps. I'll be thrilled if it is steady, because then all that matters is the fun factor and in my opinion that's always been where GTA games have thrived.

analog10

I completely agree with your first paragraph. But I think that it is valid to air concerns about framerates and screen tear from this "latest" trailer as it is all we have to go on about how the game is progressing. I can handle a 30fps framerate so long as the game world is MASSIVE and there is no drop in the framerate.

What I find concerning is that even though its just a trailer, and cut scenes at that, it is not smooth. In fact it looked like stop go animation. I expect a lot from this game but not in the graphics department per say, more within how the game runs, enemy AI, NPC AI, physics and so on.

To air concerns yes, but I was refering more to the people who have already convinced themselves out of this game just because of a trailer. Also, I didn't notice anything close to stop-go animation. I mean it wasn't the best framerate I've ever seen, that's for sure. But I didn't notice any thing as bad as others are saying. I downloaded the HD version instead of watching the streaming one. Maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe I'm just not seeing what you guys are. I don't know.

There are too many idiots and geniuses both posting in this thread to quote you all, so i'm going to just say my opinion

The detail graphics are good... Backgrounds, vehicles, buildings, etc. The characters suck, their movements suck except for their mouths and the speaking, that is SPOT ON. However, character development and movement resembles PS2 style graphics to me.

Why do graphics matter?

Because that's what next gen gaming is all about!!!!! Improved graphics! Why dump all that technology into the new and improved playstation if you're not going to use it?? Gameplay has nothing to do with the current PS3. Rockstar could have made this game for PS2 with a smaller map and identical gameplay. I'm NOT saying gameplay isnt important, what I'm saying is that gameplay is not all about technology, it's about delivering new and different actions, motions, and activities. I want Uncharted graphics with EVERY game. That needs to be the standard, and that's really all there is to say about it. If one game can make it happen, they all need to. Otherwise, you're just straight up not getting what you paid for. If that satisfies you, then you really need to evaluate how much you value the dollar bill. I wanna get what I paid for and after playing Uncharted, that's what I expect. That being said, I'm not saying Uncharted is the best game out there, but its hard to argue that it's graphics aren't the best we've seen to date.

same here.lol

I mean it wasn't the best framerate I've ever seen, that's for sure. But I didn't notice any thing as bad as others are saying. I downloaded the HD version instead of watching the streaming one. Maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe I'm just not seeing what you guys are. I don't know.

The_Rick_14

Ahh... maybe thats it! I just streamed it of IGN and GAMESPOT. I'll try a download.

it seems most people agree that the graphics aren't amazing and what is good about it will be the game play, so why make a trailer focusing on cut scenes instead of gameplay?AlienOverlord

To answer it simply, because that's R*'s style. With all of the past GTAs its been the same, gameplay videos were nonexistant until extremely close to the release. It's just what they do.

it seems most people agree that the graphics aren't amazing and what is good about it will be the game play, so why make a trailer focusing on cut scenes instead of gameplay?AlienOverlord

When has any GTA trailer or commercial focused on gameplay? It's always been a mix. I think a good chunk of what we saw was gameplay, like the shootouts or car chases...

[QUOTE="killerkane246"]its not the graphics im that worried about. The thing is i dnt want to get a game that looks like the framerate is as good as a slideshow.Eman5805

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