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#1 Suliman-Uchia
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Square has been making so many remakes of the Final Fantasy series. Like 1, 2, 3, and 13 is getting a spin off. Yet no remake for 7 are they stupid a Fianal Fantasy they can make the most money and the most demend they say no. 7 needs one Ebay it selling for 100 dollars 7 has bad graphics horrible sounds. Why they even show a tech demo?
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#2 goku234
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They have no plans for making a remake of FF7 maybe theylle realeased on PSN store sometime ...

and FF7 i its my favorite game and OoT ..

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#3 SolidSnake2020
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I prefer a new FF game that will turn out better then 7.

And when you said it has bad sound bad graphics, during that time the graphics were great.

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#4 Hoshslatz
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this topic is gonnaget locked
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#5 BenderUnit22
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Concerning the graphics, 2D remakes are easy to do, you only have to redraw the sprites. Remaking a 3D game, especially on a next-gen console where standards are high is expensive. First of all, you have to re-modell all the characters with thousands more polygons.
Then of course, Final Fantasy VII used 2D backgrounds which would look bad in new games, so you'd have to create 3D models of the hundreds of locations.

And FFXIII having a spin-off has nothing to do with remakes, FFVII has many spin-offs.

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#6 MusashiSensi
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Why are some of the new people bringing these topics back from the dead?
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#7 Velric
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SquareEnix has been ruining their image for a few years now. They ignore (Chrono Trigger, Parasite Eve, Secret of Evermore) or destroy (Musashi and Mana) their franchises all the time. The fact that they wouldn't work on a remake of FFVII, which would be a guaranteed multi-million seller, is ludicrous. They've lost touch with what gamers want a long time ago.
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#8 Blitz_Nemesis
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Change the topic title or you will surely be locked. I agree FF7 should be remade. None of the other FF after that really got me into the story like FF7 did, except for FFX
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#9 urio1
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yoooo!!! they need to start working on the next Kingdom hearts.... damn it lol.... it was like nearly a half decade from the gap between KH1 and KH2.... i dont count Chain of Memories as that important lol......they have made some very dumb titles lately
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#10 Luxen90
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FFXIII doesnt have spinoffs.
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#11 HiImUPSMan
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FFXIII doesnt have spinoffs.Luxen90

um if i remember correctly theres like 6 different versions of ff13

anyway id rather play a whole new ff than play ff7 again. ive beat that game like 6times already :P

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#12 Abicus7
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FFXIII doesnt have spinoffs.Luxen90

do some research b4 you post your opinion.

 Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7

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#13 Luxen90
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Those arent spinoffs they are all in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.
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#14 c0mplex
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Those arent spinoffs they are all in the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.Luxen90

how does that not count as a spin-off?

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#15 Luxen90
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and how does it count as a spinoff?
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#16 Abicus7
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its in the same world.. its a spin off.. or call it whatever you want thats still what it is.. invest in a dictionary.
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#17 c0mplex
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spin-offs are usually referred to as another product that is derived from a main entity. games like Versus and Agito are set in the same universe of FFXIII.

but i guess with this definition, you would first have to view FFXIII as S-E's main product... and not think FFXIII, along with Versus and Agito, are three equal parts of a whole.

but considering how S-E treats the FF main-line of games (FFI-XII) compared to other FF games (FFVII: Dirge of Cerberus)... i would say that it safe to think that thee FFI-XIII line are the main games of the FF brand.

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#18 urio1
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Actually Luxen is correct... Fabula Novalis Crysallis is a series...... lol Versus 13 is not a spin-off... it's a game set in like the same universe i believe but from like a darker point of view ha ha ha.... but yeah spin-off is the innappropriate term
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#19 Luxen90
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Same universe. How can you call FFvs13 and the FF Agito XIII spinoffs. They are their own game. Also where do you see they said the rest of the FF13s are spinoffs. They are apart of the Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy XIII they shouldnt be called spinoffs.

Edit:That was not to you c0mplex since you somewhat agreed with me.

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#20 Abicus7
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being set in the same universe is exactly what makes it a spin off.. if that isnt the right term then please tell us what the right one would be.

 Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7

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#21 caseystryker
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I don't know about Square Enix, but obviously you don't know the difference between no and know. Sorry, but I had to point that out, it was bothering me.
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#22 urio1
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being set in the same universe is exactly what makes it a spin off.. if that isnt the right term then please tell us what the right one would be.

 Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7

Abicus7

the right term is series... jeez stop being soo difficult it's not a damn spin-off... my goodness... thats like saying Killzone 2 is a spin-off to Killzone 1.....

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#23 Abicus7
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]

being set in the same universe is exactly what makes it a spin off.. if that isnt the right term then please tell us what the right one would be.

 Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7

urio1

the right term is series... jeez stop being soo difficult it's not a damn spin-off... my goodness... thats like saying Killzone 2 is a spin-off to Killzone 1.....

actually final fantasy already has a series.. maybe you heard of them .. final fantasy 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13.

just like killzone 1 and 2 same series.. but then there was killzone on the psp i think.. Killzone:liberation I think, note the second name after the "Main" name kinda reminds me of the FF 13 and FF "Verses" 13 .. see how they are different? FF13 isthe main game and it holds the main name. vs. has a secondary name (Like liberation) these are spin offs .. its not a bad thing but thats what it is..

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#24 urio1
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^^ okay maybe not series but i just read up on it.. and the term is not spin-off... it is a collection of games set in the same universe but not directly related to each other... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_13 ... the point is i win u lose sooo go away lol
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#25 Abicus7
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ok well i guess the whole world will have to come up with a new term just for FF 13 and to satisfy people like you, I will step down from this arguement.
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#26 Abicus7
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ok well i guess the whole world will have to come up with a new term just for FF 13 and to satisfy people like you, I will step down from this arguement.
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#27 urio1
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^^ i dont care about making a new term for that all i was trying to prove to you is dat it wasn't a spin-off
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#28 TelcharXI
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FF13, FFv13, and FF13 agito are all made by differen't people, they take place in the Final Fantasy 13 universe but are in no way directly or indirectly related to each other. To call them a "spin off" doesn't make sense since in order to have a spinoff there has to be a certain element from the original "FF13" a spin off in my opinion would be you have a game like FF7, then you have Dirge of Cerberus, Core Crises, etc etc. Which all use elements from the original being FF7.

So in conclusion I don't believe any of the FF13's are spinoffs but totally different games.

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#29 Abicus7
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well, none of us have played ether game yet so I think it would be a bit short sighted to say 1 game has nothing to do with the other.
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#30 kevy619
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Hironobu Sakaguchi isnt working for square enix anymore, and its starting to show.
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#31 TelcharXI
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well, none of us have played ether game yet so I think it would be a bit short sighted to say 1 game has nothing to do with the other. Abicus7

Really have you seen the trailers, they have very different atmospheres here are the synopsis for each

http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/final-fantasy-versus-xiii.php

http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/final-fantasy-xiii.php

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#32 Abicus7
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Hironobu Sakaguchi isnt working for square enix anymore, and its starting to show. kevy619

this is very true, he has said that he doesnt like Ps3 and has no intention of making games for it...

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#33 Luxen90
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Hironobu Sakaguchi isnt working for square enix anymore, and its starting to show. kevy619

Yea it does. Sorta sucks I cant play that Lost Odyssey but Im going to get that one he producing on ds.

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#34 Abicus7
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[QUOTE="Abicus7"]well, none of us have played ether game yet so I think it would be a bit short sighted to say 1 game has nothing to do with the other. TelcharXI

Really have you seen the trailers, they have very different atmospheres here are the synopsis for each

http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/final-fantasy-versus-xiii.php

http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/final-fantasy-xiii.php

wow, a 3 minute clip doesnt tell me about the game at all, not about the characters, the bosses, the fighting ****or anything else other than the graphics, this has nothing to do with weither the games are spin offs or not.

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#35 TelcharXI
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No need to be such a pompous a** if you bother to read the synopsis they tell you what each one generally is
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#36 tfaa
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they should just leave it alone imo. the game is perfect the way it is, they could never capture the feel of the original. i would be so happy if they would release it on PSN!!! along with all of their other ps1 classics.
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#37 Abicus7
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IM just saying that every one talks like they know all there is to know about the FF 13 games. we are still a full year away from they're realease... alot can change in that time.. and id say what we know about the games is like 1% of what there is to know.
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[QUOTE="kevy619"] Hironobu Sakaguchi isnt working for square enix anymore, and its starting to show. Abicus7

this is very true, he has said that he doesnt like Ps3 and has no intention of making games for it...

He doesnt like the ps3 because he is on Microsofts payroll... Im interested to see how Lost Odyssey, Cry-On and the untitled MMO Mistwalker are developing all turn out. Blue Dragon seems to be of decent quality, the first JRPG ive had an interest in sincde FFXII.

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#39 Luxen90
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You also talk like you know all about FF13 games by calling some of them spinoffs. This agruement should have ended a long time ago.
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#40 Abicus7
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No need to be such a pompous a** if you bother to read the synopsis they tell you what each one generally is TelcharXI

I am who I am, how I am, thats how I like it! HELLYEAH!

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#41 kevy619
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IM just saying that every one talks like they know all there is to know about the FF 13 games. we are still a full year away from they're realease... alot can change in that time.. and id say what we know about the games is like 1% of what there is to know.Abicus7

We are 2 years away from release actually, I think Square Enix are more interested in the DS, PSP, and the wii right now.

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#42 Abicus7
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You also talk like you know all about FF13 games by calling some of them spinoffs. This agruement should have ended a long time ago.Luxen90

and you are doing the same by saying they are not, if they are truely completely different games then they should not have the FF name. square are probley just trying to sell more games by slapping the name FF on it. dont say it hasnt happened b4. so to answer the threads origonal question, Yes! square indeed "Nos" nothing.

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#43 kevy619
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]You also talk like you know all about FF13 games by calling some of them spinoffs. This agruement should have ended a long time ago.Abicus7

and you are doing the same by saying they are not, if they are truely completely different games then they should not have the FF name. square are probley just trying to sell more games by slapping the name FF on it. dont say it hasnt happened b4. so to answer the threads origonal question, Yes! square indeed "Nos" nothing.

Square Enix have become all about making money in the last few years.
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#44 Luxen90
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and that is what you dont understand Just think Fabula Nova Crystallis is like a series in FF. All FF13 games are not link to each other directly though. Also I do agree that they just throw on Final fantasy into every game they develop lately and the only games that dont have Final fantasy in the name are the games they published. Except Kingdom hearts.
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#45 urio1
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^^ Abicus7 ur a fool... ha ha ha i already posted the link to where they said it's not a spin-off and so did many other ppl.... jeez they are all in the same UNIVERSE(the universe is pretty huge fool) lol and they are also not closely related... and just to justify my point again look at this...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_13
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#46 Houseofcary
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Regarding the miniseries argument: FFIX sadly enough was the last real Final fantasy. The reason why there called FINAL Fantasy, is because every iteration, before X, was about the end of that stories world. And were Final. Technically no there not spinoffs being that they are gonna be planned. But the fact remains Final Fantasy, by the meaning of the title, is dead. Long dead and gone. FFX-2 was the birth of something horrible and sick. FFXI isnt even a final fantasy. FFXII is Final Fantasy Tactics world making it a new low in Square's past. and the fact that theyre milking VII for every penny its worth tells me that the company has lost every hope of redeeming itself and giving us a NEW idea thats worthy of our money and expectation. Stop waiting forFFXIII, even b4 Square was sold to this new company called Square Enix, it NEVER met a deadline in order to make the fans hype it up themselves, saving them any kind of commercial expense.

So in short, No there not spinoffs, there expected loss of any value the Square name has earned with SCE by the money grubbing mega corporation named Square Enix.

Argue with me all u want, but if u do, u prolly liked kingdom hearts.

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#47 Rakuho
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i usually don't pull out such speech out thespeculation hat, but i really see a FF7 remake on the PS3, don't know why, but i just do.FF7 still has a lot of milk left.. that kind of sounds...dirty...and not in a good way :oops:
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#48 c0mplex
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and what is wrong with liking Kingdom Hearts?!? :evil:
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#49 Houseofcary
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and what is wrong with liking Kingdom Hearts?!? :evil:c0mplex

Same as liking the Little Mermaid.

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#50 c0mplex
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[QUOTE="c0mplex"]and what is wrong with liking Kingdom Hearts?!? :evil:Houseofcary

Same as liking the Little Mermaid.

that stings.

even though that little mermaid world was crap... still doesn't change the fact that KH is freakin awesome.