Fallout 3 Bethesda Buggy DLC Petition Thread

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#1 trex24
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I loved Fallout 3 and got the Platty for it, but I got robbed on the DLC for it released to PS3 several months after Microsoft would let them release it to the XBOX competition. The most buggy DLC ever. Never finished Point Lookout because it locks up my PS3 withing a few minutes of starting it. The Pitt was almost as bad (less than 1 fps in areas like the foundry). Playing that DLC was torture, not fun at all, although Mothership Zeta was almost bug free compared to the infested rest. Need to get my money back for at least Point Lookout. Playing The Pitt and Point Lookout may have bricked my first PS3 because the overuse of the graphics chip by bad programming during the 1 fps section I think fried the system I had had for years. $200 to get a refurbed one, and Point Lookout freezes on it as well. Obviously a Bethesda screw up. Maybe they wanted to release DLC that would brick PS3s as they are pro XBOX bribes.

Here are my petitions in case others have had similar problems with Fallout 3 DLC, to this date unaddressed by Bethesda. Needless to say, I will not be buying the next Fallout because of the $60+ they ripped me off for buggy DLC after buying the original game:

http://www.petitiononline.com/FireBQA/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/FO3Refnd/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/BUGGYDLC/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/F3Apolgy/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?FireBQA

(4 siggys already on that page for the Fire BQA petition (if they have any QA testers, that is.)

http://www.petitiononline.com/FO3Suit/petition.html

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?BUGGYDLC

(sigs so far for BUGGY DLC petition)

Here ia a similar petition from other screwed over gamers:

http://www.petitiononline.com/bethbeta/petition.html

Other games arebug free compared to Bethesda's work. Never had to hard reset the system once on other games. I lost count of how many hard resets I had to do on FO3 and DLC before it bricked my system.

Please sign one or more of my petitions and maybe we'll get our money back for Buggy FO3 PS3 DLC, get a real QA department put in place at Bethesda, an apology from their CEO, or at least a patch to make the PS3 DLC playable. Called Sony Playstation store but they continue to sell it and say it is not their responsibility for a refund if the software you buy on their site is buggy and unplayable like FO3 PS3 DLC. Maybe these petitions will get Bethesda to support their software, and at least test it before releasing it on a console with a QA department that knows what they are doing.

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#2 JonnyEarthquake
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I support this. Signed in all petitions.

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#3 trex24
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Thanks, JonnyEarthQuake, please ask your friends to do so too.

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#4 GrandJury
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These online petitions never really work. I see quite a bit of people making topics about petitions but they never actually work.
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#5 JonnyEarthquake
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These online petitions never really work. I see quite a bit of people making topics about petitions but they never actually work.GrandJury

True, but people have been whining about FO3 bugs since the release of the game. Maybe it`s time for Bethesda to listen.

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#6 GrandJury
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Well anything is possible.
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#7 trex24
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They need to listen or their next game will be a money loser and tank the company.

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#8 JonnyEarthquake
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They need to listen or their next game will be a money loser and tank the company.

trex24

The Elder Scrolls and Fallout series have huge fanbase and besides, it`s not like they will release half-baked products when the competition in market is so tough.

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#9 trex24
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Huge fanbase, but it will be less if they don't get competent QA testers (if they have any at all). Even the main Fallout 3 game had freezing issues and places you would get stuck in and couldn't jump out of so you had to reset the game and lose progress that seriously detracted from gameplay.

Never played Elder Scrolls, so I don't know how buggy or not it is. The PS3 Fallout 3 DLC I believe set a new standard for most buggy game released in recent years. At over $60 for all five DLCs, there is no excuse for suchbuggy add-ons.

Bethesda may think they will escape the consequences of putting customers last and cheaping out or not performing at all QA testing for the PS3, but I think there are many that were bit anddefrauded by this that will not buy a Bethesda title until they come out and publicly promise they haveput in place a rigorous QA testing process for all of their games and DLC, and that they support their games after delivery (patches, etc.)

Too risky to buy anything from them otherwise. There are other studios that actually QA test their games before delivery because they care about their customer's gaming experience and want them to be returning customers.

I posted my petitions in the Bethesda forums and I got banned until the end of 2031. I guess I'll repost them there when that date rolls around, LOL.

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#10 Oxymandias
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Agreed.. Fallout3 was great but the DLC was crap... I gave the original Fallout a 9.5 score.. But the GOY edition 6.. :-(

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#11 Jackc8
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The only way to get Bethesda to listen is if a lot of people take their Fallout 3 games back to the store and demand a refund.

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#12 viva_hate
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I never had any major problems with the DLC... But I agree that Bethesda should beta test their games further before releasing them. In Oblivion GOTY Edition on the PS3, if you get bitten by a vampire, there's no way to go back to normal. The quest that normally lets you do that is broken, the witch just won't accept one of the ingredients you have to give her. I don't know anything about programming on the PS3, but I don't think this would be too hard to fix in a patch...

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#13 trex24
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Thanks, gamers, for the posts. Please sign the petitions and ask your friends too, especially if you are even considering purchasing a Bethesda game in the future. They need to put in place a competent QA test department and run all of their games through it. If a bug is reported by that team or (worse) by the public after release they need to fix it, not ignore it and ship the game anyway and do no after sale support.

Thanks for the example of bugs in other Bethesda games I haven't played. This proves that this policy of Bethesda not supporting their customers with fixes to reported bugs is widespread, and likely a cost saving move on the companies part. It may save them the costs of diagnosing and distributing patches for their games and DLC, but it is costing them many customers as well.

I hope that this company fares the worst of any game developer this year--at least until they get the message that they can no longer defraud once loyal customers out of their hard earned money for overpriced (considering its lack of quality) games and related DLC.

It would be nice if we could all go back and demand our money back for Fallout 3 and the DLC for its numerous bugs on the PS3, but I think they will cite company policy to prevent that from happening. Actually its not the retailer's fault--it's Bethesda's, however Sony continues to sell the buggy unpatched DLC on the Playstation Network after me and several others asked for refunds because of the bugs. That is bad business policy. Once you are notified you are selling a defective product you should pull it off the shelves so to speak, and notify the supplier (Bugthesda) that you will no longer accept their products for sale to the public until they are rigorously QA tested to eliminate bugs.

Of course, most software will have a small bug here or there after delivery that can be easily patched by the developer, but Bugthesda's games are bug riddled and they know about the defects as people like myself have reported them to them, however they just pretend they don't exist and don't even try to fix the problems as they apparently believe about their customers that bought their games and DLC what P.T. Barnum said: "There is a sucker born every minute."

We need to not be taken for suckers ever again by Bugthesda and refuse to by any of their games and DLC until they have made things right for their receently defrauded customers on FO3, Oblivion, etc.

And Sony Playstation and all retailers should pull their games with bugs (as far as I know, that is all of the recent ones) and ship them back and only stock games from them again when their games have been independently certified by an outside QA testing company as bug free after going through Bugthesda's pathetic (and maybe non-existent) QA testing department.

Unless Bugthesda gets the message and responds to the petitions with a newly put in place QA testing department that will begin to patch the many bugs in each Bugthesda title, and/or the company gives people their money back for past defective product shipped (like FO3 and DLC for PS3), then we should all hope people boycott their games and the company goes bankrupt.

In than situation, no one should fear a Bugthesda title will also die with the miscreant company--a company would by the rights for pennies on the dollar in bankruptcy court--any other company that buys it will have a far better QA testing department than defunct Bugthesda had in such a situation.

I'm thinking Bugthesda has no QA testing department, and just sends the games out straight from the programmers as "self QA tested" because they are so cheap and want to get maximum profits from hoodwinked customers by such short cutting of critical QA testin processes to the game player experience.

I hope no one hires anyone with "I was a QA tester at Bethesda" any time soon, for the aforementioned reasons, if their are/were such people at Bugthesda. They did a horrible job.

Of course, if any QA testers worked there and did their jobs of reporting defects to the programmers and management that management refused to fix, then please post here your experience. That would explain a lot.