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#1 pyromaniac223
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http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

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#2 qman101
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http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

pyromaniac223

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

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#3 pyromaniac223
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The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.
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#4 qman101
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The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

Good point.

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#5 dercoo
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It is the people's vote not their(G4) choice. That is why halo 3 got best game.
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#6 BioShockOwnz
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The artstyle and graphics did little for me in MGS4. Uncharted looks better in both categories.
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#7 codalloo
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Had excellent graphics, I agree that it was best graphics on the PS3 and consoles but Crysis has better graphics.
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crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.
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#9 pyromaniac223
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crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.Androvinus

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.pyromaniac223

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

To each his own, I suppose.

I say that MGS4 graphics are near Crysis graphics. The details of the building are quite nice.

It even has Motion Blur, both the camera motion blur and the explosion's motion blur.

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#11 1noteshort
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The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223
too bad even nasa is having problems running it (remember game infarcer). id love to play the game but neither one of my computers can run it sadly.
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#12 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.qman101

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

To each his own, I suppose.

I say that MGS4 graphics are near Crysis graphics. The details of the building are quite nice.

It even has Motion Blur, both the camera motion blur and the explosion's motion blur.

But some of the textures are subpar. Crysis literally has no weak points.
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It also deserved GOTY, they said it was the closest battle they had ever seen a margin of 40 votes, Halo 3 won by.
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[QUOTE="qman101"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.pyromaniac223

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

To each his own, I suppose.

I say that MGS4 graphics are near Crysis graphics. The details of the building are quite nice.

It even has Motion Blur, both the camera motion blur and the explosion's motion blur.

But some of the textures are subpar. Crysis literally has no weak points.

Oy. Looks like I ran out of points. :P

Very well then, we'll agree that MGS4 graphics are awesome, but not Crysis-awesome.

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crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.Androvinus

Yeah, on Medium settings...

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

qman101

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

what!? have u played crysis with graphics at ''very high'' and x16 anti-aliasing? the graphics are the best ive ever seen in game!

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We all know G4 is flawed ... its fun for watching but i usually leave my reviews to metacritic for a more rounded approach anyway.

sn1per youve played on 16x AA???!!! well i know you havent but your just trying to prove a point XD

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#18 Alfred91
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How sick would it have been of some crap wii title won that? I mean ps2 graphics vs. the modern power of technology. Wow, o well MGS4 didn't need to win anything on that show, a 10/10 is enough for this proud 1 day owner of the MGS4 LE.
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crysis was ridiculous.. basically a joke just showing "oooh, look what we can do!"
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#20 USMC_Sn1per
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We all know G4 is flawed ... its fun for watching but i usually leave my reviews to metacritic for a more rounded approach anyway.

sn1per youve played on 16x AA???!!! well i know you havent but your just trying to prove a point XD

ColdfireTrilogy

lol...i tried and the graphics looked awesome! the frame rate was VERY low tough...

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#21 shahchip
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mgs4 graphics are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overrated, gran turismo 5 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
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crysis was ridiculous.. basically a joke just showing "oooh, look what we can do!"americahellyeah

Um, no. :| It was critically acclaimed by the big dog critics, and for good reason.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

qman101

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

They said that crysis actually came in last place.

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crysis was ridiculous.. basically a joke just showing "oooh, look what we can do!"americahellyeah

It was actually a very fresh and original fps.

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they actually said crysis came in last for graphics category...somehow...
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#26 pyromaniac223
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they actually said crysis came in last for graphics category...somehow...rmerri52

It was decided by a user vote. Maybe they all knew Crysis was the best, that it was a given, and wanted to vote for something new, because EVERYONE knows Crysis has the best graphics.

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#27 remote22222
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[QUOTE="rmerri52"]they actually said crysis came in last for graphics category...somehow...pyromaniac223

It was decided by a user vote. Maybe they all knew Crysis was the best, that it was a given, and wanted to vote for something new, because EVERYONE knows Crysis has the best graphics.

you sound like a big fanboy. Crysis had amazing graphics but your talking up the game so much lol.

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#28 FlashCharge
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All around MGS4 is better and it nearly won GAME of the YEAR.
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#29 AgentH
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Crysis has beautiful graphics and that's about it. Graphically, Crysis > MGS4 but some parts in MGS4 graphics like the face models and weapon models are REALLY REALLY well done and they are my favorites. Environments in Crysis are outstanding. But the blizzard in Shadow Moses in MGS4 is incredible and the way the snow covers up Snake's body in real time is frickin awesome! But otherwise, MGS4 is FAR superior than Crysis in story, gameplay, music, sound, characters, fun etc... These are actual gameplay footages in real time, the cutscenes are without a doubt superior than Crysis' because MGS games have this detailed Hollywood feeling into them when it comes to cutscenes from the AMAZING sound and music to the acting of the characters and face models:




























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#30 ikwal
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Crysis looks way better than MGS4, but MGS4 is still a much better game.
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#31 Elviathan
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Even though Crysis' graphics are technically better than MGS4, it needs a lot of graphics and CPU processing to run it at good settings, so maybe that's why MGS4 got best graphics.
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[QUOTE="qman101"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

USMC_Sn1per

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

what!? have u played crysis with graphics at ''very high'' and x16 anti-aliasing? the graphics are the best ive ever seen in game!

yeah not much people can get that so it would make sense people vote for graphics that can actually be seen

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Sweet, MGS4 looks amazing, and had alot of great effects to enhance the experience.
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[QUOTE="USMC_Sn1per"][QUOTE="qman101"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

jojothekid

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

what!? have u played crysis with graphics at ''very high'' and x16 anti-aliasing? the graphics are the best ive ever seen in game!

yeah not much people can get that so it would make sense people vote for graphics that can actually be seen

you know man graphics aren't always about how lifelike the game looks.

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#35 realistic44
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Dont get me wrong i like mgs4 graphics, but to me i think uncharted is way better in terms of that.

uncharted has the best graphics ive seen out of any video game this gen. the plant, tree, water textures all deliver a perfect score if you ask me.

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#36 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="rmerri52"]they actually said crysis came in last for graphics category...somehow...remote22222

It was decided by a user vote. Maybe they all knew Crysis was the best, that it was a given, and wanted to vote for something new, because EVERYONE knows Crysis has the best graphics.

you sound like a big fanboy. Crysis had amazing graphics but your talking up the game so much lol.

I'm not a fanboy. But seriously, Crysis is generally accepted as being the game with the greatest graphics. It WAS a good fps with open world gameplay, instead of linear gameplay. It did have a few gameplay flaws though, but its not really fair to compare and FPS with a stealth game like MGS4. In terms of graphics though, Crysis>MGS4.

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#37 Sokol4ever
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Graphics don't make a great or even good game. Gameplay, story and fun factor do amongst other aspects. Visuals are also part of the overall package of course, but there are other things that all contribute to excellent product.

Metal Gear Solid 4 has pretty much all factors that make a fantastic game, those who fail to see that part are not gamers, as harsh it may sound.

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#38 pyromaniac223
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Graphics don't make a great or even good game. Gameplay, story and fun factor do amongst other aspects. Visuals are also part of the overall package of course, but there are other things that all contribute to excellent product.

Metal Gear Solid 4 has pretty much all factors that make a fantastic game, those who fail to see that part are not gamers, as harsh it may sound.

Sokol4ever

Well, yes, but that is irrelevant, seeing as this is a discussion about a "Best Graphics Award"

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#39 Sokol4ever
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Nothing is irrelevant, my point stand ground since it's connected to the game and in general. Also, if you wanted to "make an example" there are many folks in this topic that would work out.

Don't teach me about games philosophies or dilemmas.

In case you didn't understand my point I'm pleased that MGS4 was recognized for the award. ^_^

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#40 pyromaniac223
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I wasn't "teaching" you about philosophies. I simply stated that this award is given out solely based on graphics, nothing else. So Crysis could be absolute crap as regards to gameplay, and MGS4 could be the best game that will ever be made, but Crysis still has the better graphics, which means it should have won the award. MGS4 should have gotten second place, as it blew away all the other nominees.
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#41 TriangleHard
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technically, i'd say crysis is better.

but add artistry, MGS comes on top.

Does crysis has 4 top models around the world? if not, MGS looks better.

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http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

pyromaniac223
I think the difference is how many actually have the computer powerful enough to run Crysis on high settings, thats how GameTrailers disregarded it fr best graphics.
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#43 HaroStrile
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Personally, I'm happy with this choice. Although Crysis has some of the most technically stunning graphics ever to grace the PC, think about this. It's location makes it a lot easier to make it look that stunning than the area Metal Gear 4 takes place in. One is a jungle with many trees and a lot of grass that allows the developer to show a high level of detail and make it look great, where as the other is a barren dessert with dirt, buildings, and very few trees. What Kojima did here was create quite an impressive graphical showcase, and people responded. This show is viewer's choice as well, so they aren't voting based on statistics showing which game has the higher graphical detail, they're voting on what they played and what impressed them. Kojima impressed a lot of people with this game, partially due to the fact that he used all in-game graphics instead of cutting into a pre-renderred cut-scene every time he needs to show a video. And he even took it a step further by going from a cut-scene into gameplay seemlessly. So even though Crysis has some breathtaking graphics, I found myself more impressed when I thought of how much more Kojima would have done if he opted to use pre-renderred cut-scenes instead of in-game graphics for everything. However, there is room for error considering this is my opinion and there are no facts when comparing graphics considering it all has to be chosen based on opinion.
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#44 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

soulfood4

I think the difference is how many actually have the computer powerful enough to run Crysis on high settings, thats how GameTrailers disregarded it fr best graphics.

I understand what you are saying, but the fact that it is technically demanding doesn't make its graphics any less amazing.

BTW, your sig is epic.

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[QUOTE="jojothekid"][QUOTE="USMC_Sn1per"][QUOTE="qman101"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

AgentH

To me, graphics actually were Crysis great.

Difference? The physics are not Crysis great.

Even so, I do find it kind of strange Crysis wasn't 1st place...

what!? have u played crysis with graphics at ''very high'' and x16 anti-aliasing? the graphics are the best ive ever seen in game!

yeah not much people can get that so it would make sense people vote for graphics that can actually be seen

you know man graphics aren't always about how lifelike the game looks.

ii know that i love the graphics in mgs4 the best ive seen yet the style is great some parts do seem lifelike its great i dont even have it hooked upto a hdmi cable what i meant that not even nasa can get the bes tgraphics out of crysis mgs4 is a great game this shouldve been game of the year instead of two year old halo3 that game is not even close to goty its fun but not goty. i wanna see their award show in december thats going to be mgs4 bioshock for ps3 and gta4 throught the whole thing
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[QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

pyromaniac223

I think the difference is how many actually have the computer powerful enough to run Crysis on high settings, thats how GameTrailers disregarded it fr best graphics.

I understand what you are saying, but the fact that it is technically demanding doesn't make its graphics any less amazing.

BTW, your sig is epic.

Well it sort of does. Its not going to look the same for all graphics cards across the board so ya it does.

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awesome, they deserve it.
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#48 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="soulfood4"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

http://www.g4tv.com/xplay/videos/27672/GPhoria_08_Best_Graphics.html

IMO should have been second place. Graphics were great, but not Crysis great.

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I think the difference is how many actually have the computer powerful enough to run Crysis on high settings, thats how GameTrailers disregarded it fr best graphics.

I understand what you are saying, but the fact that it is technically demanding doesn't make its graphics any less amazing.

BTW, your sig is epic.

Well it sort of does. Its not going to look the same for all graphics cards across the board so ya it does.

It doesn't fluctuate THAT much. On high and very high, Crysis owns any other game in existance. Saying that as a non fanboy, just go into google and search Crysis. Some screenshots are nearly photorealistic. I like the art style in MGS4 better though. If it was a console graphics award, yeah, I would go with either MGS4, Uncharted, or Gears.

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#49 SollidSnake_
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The artstyle and graphics did little for me in MGS4. Uncharted looks better in both categories.BioShockOwnz

as usual.

but yeah it would be second for me.. Crysis was better.

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#50 AgentH
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]The art****and graphics did little for me in MGS4. Uncharted looks better in both categories.SollidSnake_

as usual.

but yeah it would be second for me.. Crysis was better.

You know why as usual? because BioShock OWNS!