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#51 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]The art****and graphics did little for me in MGS4. Uncharted looks better in both categories.AgentH

as usual.

but yeah it would be second for me.. Crysis was better.

You know why as usual? because BioShock OWNS!

Bioshock does own.

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#52 realistic44
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I personally thought uncharted had better graphics than mgs4

but congrats to em anyways.

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#53 ProjectTrinity
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The artstyle and graphics did little for me in MGS4. Uncharted looks better in both categories.BioShockOwnz

It happens when you don't like the series.

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The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.shabab12

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

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#56 Dongalos
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Crisis has superior technology behind, it has the new graphical features and buzzwords HOWEVER their artists and their modelers are not up to snuff against Metal Gear Solid 4's

Metal Gear Solid 4 has better art style, more realistic looking models......even if some of the textures are low resolution and even if the technology behind Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't as state of the art the people working on Metal Gear solid 4 have done a better job of what they are working with

Some people love looking at close resolutions of Crisis like this, i don't get whats the big deal? So its more detailed...it still doesn't look that great and how is that ehancing the way i play ???

Even at lower texture resolutions, i still prefer the look of this

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#57 Dongalos
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But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.pyromaniac223

You can have the latest greatest technology but if the art team creating the look of the game doesn't know how to fully utilize the technology it will still look like s@#$

Crisis doesn't look like S@#$ but its not up to par with how Metal Gear Solid 4 looks

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#58 pyromaniac223
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The person who posted the screenshots chose the worst one possible for Crysis. Post one of Crysis in the jungle, and tell me how its worse than MGS4. Crysis' artstyle wasn't bad, they went for the realistic approach.
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i think there was better art style in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goes
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i think there was better art style in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goesronniepage588

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

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#61 AgentH
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[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]i think there was better art ****in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goespyromaniac223

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

COD4 > Crysis gameplay wise and multiplayer

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#62 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]i think there was better art ****in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goesAgentH

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

COD4 > Crysis gameplay wise and multiplayer

Ugh, CoD4 had a horribly linear campaign. I enjoyed CoD4's multiplayer more, but Crysis with its open world gameplay and suit powers had a better singleplayer. I'll give you the multiplayer, Crysis' was atrocious.

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#63 AgentH
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[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]i think there was better art ****in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goespyromaniac223

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

COD4 > Crysis gameplay wise and multiplayer

Ugh, CoD4 had a horribly linear campaign. I enjoyed CoD4's multiplayer more, but Crysis with its open world gameplay and suit powers had a better singleplayer. I'll give you the multiplayer, Crysis' was atrocious.

I never mentioned the campaign. I meant the way the game is played and the way you handle the weapons and how smooth it is comparing to Crysis which needs the most powerful computer in the planet to run smoothly! Well said for the multiplayer part.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]i think there was better art ****in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goesAgentH

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

COD4 > Crysis gameplay wise and multiplayer

Ugh, CoD4 had a horribly linear campaign. I enjoyed CoD4's multiplayer more, but Crysis with its open world gameplay and suit powers had a better singleplayer. I'll give you the multiplayer, Crysis' was atrocious.

I never mentioned the campaign. I meant the way the game is played and the way you handle the weapons and how smooth it is comparing to Crysis which needs the most powerful computer in the planet to run smoothly! Well said for the multiplayer part.

Not really...You could build a computer for the price of a PS3 that could run Crysis on High with good FPS. The weapons in Crysis are pretty good, you can mod each one depending on what the situation calls for.

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This doesn't surprise me one bit.

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.pyromaniac223

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

What are you talking about? Crysis character models look extremely two deminsional. They don't look right at all, let alone photo realistic.

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#67 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]crysis has better graphics because it shows more things. Eg: 1 million leaves and branches on the ground. Crysis tries to show more than really necessary(not a bad thing cuz it looks good). Mgs4 shows less. just a building with some cracks and bullet holes. nothing is exaggerated. But Mgs 4 looks just as good as crysis.henry4th

No, Crysis done right looks as close to photorealistic as any non-racing game has ever gotten. MGS4, while good, is nowhere near Crysis.

What are you talking about? Crysis character models look extremely two deminsional. They don't look right at all, let alone photo realistic.

Sigh...I thought this had been established already. Fact-Crysis has the best graphics of any game out today.

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#68 Dongalos
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CRISIS has the best TECHNOLOGY behind it

It has all the latest graphic technology effects in the game but that does not make it the best GRAPHICs

Best graphics = best artwork, best use of technology, best modeling etc

you can have great technology but if people don't know how to use it properly and are crapphy artists it will still look like crap

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The viewers chose the winnars good job they said crysis got the least amount of votes
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#70 pyromaniac223
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From those pictures you posted, Crysis wins. Crysis' artstyle isn't bad, its just realistic. MGS4 went for a more sci-fi route. Although the artstyles in the alien area and with the nanosuit in Crysis are pretty good also.
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#71 shabab12
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with the nanosuit in Crysis are pretty good also.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

Yea ubt the point is it is generally accepted that MGS4 has the better art direction which for moist people is a massive part of graphics. Thats why i think gears 1 and 2 looks like a bag of turd. The art direction is so awful it makes my eyes bleed. Technically, yes crysis wins but looking at the beauty and the besats then looking at my highly detailed Crysis tree, i would choose MGS4.

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[QUOTE="rmerri52"]they actually said crysis came in last for graphics category...somehow...pyromaniac223

It was decided by a user vote. Maybe they all knew Crysis was the best, that it was a given, and wanted to vote for something new, because EVERYONE knows Crysis has the best graphics.

You can't say "EVERYONE" maybe people who voted were like me (have crap PC's and have never seen Crysis before)

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#73 shadowkiller11
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i'm not a pc gamer but i think crysis should of got first with mgs 4 second. mgs4 is the best graphics on a console. i do think mgs4 should of been best game not halo 3.
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#74 pyromaniac223
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with the nanosuit in Crysis are pretty good also.shabab12
[QUOTE="shabab12"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

Yea ubt the point is it is generally accepted that MGS4 has the better art direction which for moist people is a massive part of graphics. Thats why i think gears 1 and 2 looks like a bag of turd. The art direction is so awful it makes my eyes bleed. Technically, yes crysis wins but looking at the beauty and the besats then looking at my highly detailed Crysis tree, i would choose MGS4.

Art style is too subjective to judge and give an award to. I could say that MGS4 artsyle blows chunks of suckage, and Crysis is way better because of the realism. Go google image Crysis, or find a thread on System wars, Crysis eats MGS4 for breakfast in terms of graphics.

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[QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="AgentH"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]i think there was better art in mgs4, more distinctive characteristics in all of the main characters, more detail in very subtle things, and lets face it, mgs4 has way more going on as far as gameplay mechanics and story telling goespyromaniac223

Crysis had way more graphical detail than MGS4. As it was an award for "Best Graphics" I would say gameplay has nothing to do with it. If it was between which is the better game, yeah, I'd go with MGS4, although Crysis is a great fps.

COD4 > Crysis gameplay wise and multiplayer

Ugh, CoD4 had a horribly linear campaign. I enjoyed CoD4's multiplayer more, but Crysis with its open world gameplay and suit powers had a better singleplayer. I'll give you the multiplayer, Crysis' was atrocious.

I never mentioned the campaign. I meant the way the game is played and the way you handle the weapons and how smooth it is comparing to Crysis which needs the most powerful computer in the planet to run smoothly! Well said for the multiplayer part.

Not really...You could build a computer for the price of a PS3 that could run Crysis on High with good FPS. The weapons in Crysis are pretty good, you can mod each one depending on what the situation calls for.

I hate to say it but crysis was basically just farcry with amazing graphics(if you were one of the 3 people that could run it when it came out) the quality between the settings fluctuates HEAVILY imo as well as many others. Thats why whenever it comes to a vote Crysis doesnt get the top spot. it takes too much to be able to see the potential that game shows.

Also, you misunderstand what the award for best graphics encompasses. It isnt just the power of the engine behind the game(which cryengine would win hands down to anything) it takes into account the art styl the technical proficiency(where crysis fails pretty badly as its rapes your system of resources), as well as overall look and feel of the game world/characters. MGS4 is superior in every category except for the game engine, and due to it's higher reach to gamers it will obviously score higher.

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[QUOTE="shabab12"]with the nanosuit in Crysis are pretty good also.pyromaniac223
[QUOTE="shabab12"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

Yea ubt the point is it is generally accepted that MGS4 has the better art direction which for moist people is a massive part of graphics. Thats why i think gears 1 and 2 looks like a bag of turd. The art direction is so awful it makes my eyes bleed. Technically, yes crysis wins but looking at the beauty and the besats then looking at my highly detailed Crysis tree, i would choose MGS4.

Art style is too subjective to judge and give an award to. I could say that MGS4 artsyle blows chunks of suckage, and Crysis is way better because of the realism. Go google image Crysis, or find a thread on System wars, Crysis eats MGS4 for breakfast in terms of graphics.

I agree with realistic graphics wise, Crysis. Im not argueing about that. Im saying art direction is more important. I agree that art direction is subjective but it is a user poll for best graphics meaning that the majority of people like MGS4's art style. Your entitled to you opinion of art direction which i fully accept, you think the art direction is bad, but it dosentchange te fact that through the people that voted, they prefered MGS4's art direction so it was the worthy winner.

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More people bough mgs4, more people played mgs 4, more people voted for mgs4, as simple as that. Everyone who's played both knows Crysis has superior graphics.
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#78 AgentH
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More people bough mgs4, more people played mgs 4, more people voted for mgs4, as simple as that. Everyone who's played both knows Crysis has superior graphics.PCschoolorebel

That's your opinion. Alot liked MGS4's art animations and I'm one of them and more voted for MGS4 art direction.

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[QUOTE="shabab12"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.pyromaniac223

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

exactly, the award goes to best graphic.

Not technological achievement.

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Crysis characters look terrible, Environment look incretible (although with little variety). Level design is so so. Need to say no more.
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#81 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]The graphics, while great, were nowhere NEAR Crysis. The artstyle, however, was arguably better, as Crysis went for a real world approach, while MGS had some pretty awesome art styles.TriangleHard

exactly, graphics doesn't necessarily have to mean realism. MGS4 has the better art direction hands down.

But the thing is, the award was for best graphics, not best artstyle. Artstyle is too subjective, and from a technical standpoint, Crysis blows everything else away.

exactly, the award goes to best graphic.

Not technological achievement.

And the technical aspects of Crysis pretty much shatter the advantage that MGS4's art direction gives it. In my opinion anyway. I'm one of those people that isn't repulsed by a realistic art style.

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#82 kingyotoX
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They gave halo3 game of the year obviously the voters were confused...
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#83 pyromaniac223
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They gave halo3 game of the year obviously the voters were confused...kingyotoX
Well, yeah, I don't think anyone would disagree that Halo 3 did NOT deserve GotY.