Game Hardrive Space....... WHAT?!?!

I am getting a PS3 soon and i went to look at the games i was going to pick up and some of them ( MGS4, RE5 etc. ) Said like 4600 MB!!!! How is that possible for just a save!??!?!? I dont want to get a game that a simple save takes THAT MUCH SPACE! I am asking you guys how many games like that can i fit on a 120 gig hardrive....

It's not a save.

The console is slow

To make up for it being slow it has to have data written to the hard drive

As far how many no idea, each game is different. Some games have a lot and some games don't even use the feature

It's not a save.

Furi-Kun

The console is slow

To make up for it being slow it has to have data written to the hard drive

As far how many no idea, each game is different. Some games have a lot and some games don't even use the feature

Jaysonguy

We don't call people names.

We don't call people names.

Furi-Kun

Can SOMEONE tell my why these games take all that memory!!??!?EpiphoneMan2008

[QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]Can SOMEONE tell my why these games take all that memory!!??!?Slayer6288

[QUOTE="Furi-Kun"]

We don't call people names.

Slayer6288

You store the game data, not the whole game. That way your game will load faster. Not all games have the feature. Like Uncharted for example. All the data is loaded from the disk.

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"][QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]Can SOMEONE tell my why these games take all that memory!!??!?EpiphoneMan2008

Nothing is going to take 4.6 GB or whatever. Game saves don't take up much room at all - if they took up 4 GB, it would take an hour to save a game, but it only takes a few seconds. Some game installs can be fairly large, but I doubt anything goes much over 1 MB. That's a one-time thing when you first start playimg a game. It installs some stuff on your hard drive because it can access it faster than accessing it on the disk.

You can certainly have over 100 games installed on a 120GB hard drive.

Nothing is going to take 4.6 GB or whatever. Game saves don't take up much room at all - if they took up 4 GB, it would take an hour to save a game, but it only takes a few seconds. Some game installs can be fairly large, but I doubt anything goes much over 1 MB. That's a one-time thing when you first start playimg a game. It installs some stuff on your hard drive because it can access it faster than accessing it on the disk.

You can certainly have over 100 games installed on a 120GB hard drive.

Jackc8

[QUOTE="Jackc8"]

Nothing is going to take 4.6 GB or whatever. Game saves don't take up much room at all - if they took up 4 GB, it would take an hour to save a game, but it only takes a few seconds. Some game installs can be fairly large, but I doubt anything goes much over 1 MB. That's a one-time thing when you first start playimg a game. It installs some stuff on your hard drive because it can access it faster than accessing it on the disk.

You can certainly have over 100 games installed on a 120GB hard drive.

Slayer6288

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"][QUOTE="Jackc8"]

Nothing is going to take 4.6 GB or whatever. Game saves don't take up much room at all - if they took up 4 GB, it would take an hour to save a game, but it only takes a few seconds. Some game installs can be fairly large, but I doubt anything goes much over 1 MB. That's a one-time thing when you first start playimg a game. It installs some stuff on your hard drive because it can access it faster than accessing it on the disk.

You can certainly have over 100 games installed on a 120GB hard drive.

EpiphoneMan2008

Still confused? :(

Well now just a little bit, he said something about some games having the option to install or not is that right?EpiphoneMan2008

Oh jeez calm down internet cop.Slayer6288

Yeah the people on the boards are overly sensitive. Ive gotten several E-warnings from the mods b/c i have a habit of calling out stupidity when i see it. So i'm sure you can expcect the same.

That's right! See you're getting the hang of it! :)

Can SOMEONE tell my why these games take all that memory!!??!?EpiphoneMan2008

I already did

The console is slow and for certain games the info needs to be on the drive so it can operate faster for the game's needs

Well now just a little bit, he said something about some games having the option to install or not is that right?EpiphoneMan2008

You're not installing the game

You're putting certain parts of the game on the hard drive so they can be read faster

[QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]Well now just a little bit, he said something about some games having the option to install or not is that right?Jaysonguy

You're not installing the game

You're putting certain parts of the game on the hard drive so they can be read faster

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="EpiphoneMan2008"]Well now just a little bit, he said something about some games having the option to install or not is that right?Ultrabeatdown55

You're not installing the game

You're putting certain parts of the game on the hard drive so they can be read faster

Not the way he's thinking of it

He's looking at it as installing the game

All you're doing is installing some data to compensate for the console's lack of speed

Nothing is going to take 4.6 GB or whatever. Game saves don't take up much room at all - if they took up 4 GB, it would take an hour to save a game, but it only takes a few seconds. Some game installs can be fairly large, but I doubt anything goes much over 1 MB. That's a one-time thing when you first start playimg a game. It installs some stuff on your hard drive because it can access it faster than accessing it on the disk.

You can certainly have over 100 games installed on a 120GB hard drive.

Jackc8

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]That would be called installing.Slayer6288

Not the way he's thinking of it

He's looking at it as installing the game

All you're doing is installing some data to compensate for the console's lack of speed

Uh, actually he's right. I think maybe it's you who should leave, and ya know, maybe chill out a little.

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Not the way he's thinking of it

He's looking at it as installing the game

All you're doing is installing some data to compensate for the console's lack of speed

amsfm6

Uh, actually he's right. I think maybe it's you who should leave, and ya know, maybe chill out a little.

[QUOTE="amsfm6"]

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"] I dont even know where to begin please stop posting here we dont deserve your stupidity. Flame me all you want but when a guy is this ignorant someone has to say something jasonguy please stop posting your filth in the playstation forums its cool u hate the system it isnt cool u spew misinformation now get out thanks.Slayer6288

Uh, actually he's right. I think maybe it's you who should leave, and ya know, maybe chill out a little.

Obviously there are game installs, but what they were talking about was installing the entire game like you might on a PC.

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"][QUOTE="amsfm6"]

Uh, actually he's right. I think maybe it's you who should leave, and ya know, maybe chill out a little.

amsfm6

Obviously there are game installs, but what they were talking about was installing the entire game like you might on a PC.

[QUOTE="amsfm6"]

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"] is the right info yeah ok then yeah maybe i should get off these forums if u like **** information and amsfm6 whered u come from lol another internet cop?Slayer6288

Obviously there are game installs, but what they were talking about was installing the entire game like you might on a PC.

Lol, okay man, whatever you say. Welcome to Gamespot!

[QUOTE="Slayer6288"][QUOTE="amsfm6"]

Obviously there are game installs, but what they were talking about was installing the entire game like you might on a PC.

amsfm6

Lol, okay man, whatever you say. Welcome to Gamespot!

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

You're not installing the game

You're putting certain parts of the game on the hard drive so they can be read faster

Jaysonguy

Not the way he's thinking of it

He's looking at it as installing the game

All you're doing is installing some data to compensate for the console's lack of speed

Hey, it's this thread! I hope everyone is on the same page now. :)

You are correctEpiphoneMan! Awesome! :D

The Blue-Ray on the PS3 is sluggish, thus the game devs rightfully put in a game install (as a option or mandatory) to speed up the loading times.tabben

It took 5 pages for someone to actually repond to a well kown fact. What with the gamespot's users? Are they gamers or what? Every time I enter to a thread where someone is asking something most of the responses are wrong.

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Even Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 have an install, it is just that it's so small (like 200MB) that you don't even realize it.

-But how do they speed up loadings so much with such small install you ask? Using the HDD for constant streaming.

Two games that I know that the installs are completely optional are Valkyria Chronicles and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. And if you don't install them, each loading could take easily like 40 second to 1 minute. :|

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fact: blu-ray drive speed on the PS3 is x2, DVD drive speed on the X360 is x12. If the PS3 blu-ray drive ran at x4, most of the games wouldn't need installs but considering that every PS3 comes with an HDD then, it is not a problem at all. You can always delete old data files and just keep the 3MB save files.

I have installed 10 games, three movies, a full season of Full Metal Alchemist, a bunch of cd's, 41 game demo's and my 120 GB Slim is only half filled.

Yes, some games take a huge install, MGS4 and Devil May cry 4 are the biggest i believe. DMC4 is like 7 gigs. They used to do forced installs, now games do optional installs. (Not all though). Most of the time it's to help games load faster Fighting games are a good example, like Tekken6 or SC4. It makes playing online go faster, big bonus.

120 gig is a huge amount really though, unless you do movies and such. Plus it's cheap to upgrade. You can get a 500gig HD for under a $100! if you figure and average of 4 gigs, which is giving a lot, you can put 30 saved games on the 120 gig! Approximetly

[QUOTE="tabben"]The Blue-Ray on the PS3 is sluggish, thus the game devs rightfully put in a game install (as a option or mandatory) to speed up the loading times.Gue1

It took 5 pages for someone to actually repond to a well kown fact. What with the gamespot's users? Are they gamers or what? Every time I enter to a thread where someone is asking something most of the responses are wrong.

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Even Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 have an install, it is just that it's so small (like 200MB) that you don't even realize it.

-But how do they speed up loadings so much with such small install you ask? Using the HDD for constant streaming.

Two games that I know that the installs are completely optional are Valkyria Chronicles and Ninja Gaiden Sigma. And if you don't install them, each loading could take easily like 40 second to 1 minute. :|

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fact: blu-ray drive speed on the PS3 is x2, DVD drive speed on the X360 is x12. If the PS3 blu-ray drive ran at x4, most of the games wouldn't need installs but considering that every PS3 comes with an HDD then, it is not a problem at all. You can always delete old data files and just keep the 3MB save files.

lol i noticed this too but at least jasonguy was saying that the system was slow which he ment that the drive is slow not the system. Fanboys get defensive though but it is slow and the 360 just added installs because the ps3 had them. The games run just fine off disc and often load faster than ps3 games off disc. Its unfortunate but i doubt people notice a few seconds here and there and its worth it for blu-ray.