God of War: Multiplayer confirmed

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="soundcellx"]What have they ever done right?soundcellx

Seriously, if you think the series sucks then why are you even in this thread?

So, people are only allowed opinions, just as long as they are positive ones?

Linear is horrible because you don't get to explore. Exploration and openness adds to replayability.

QTEs are horrible. No exceptions. Intense scenes? I think you mean boring scenes with repeatedly pressing x and R1 or whatever. Oh and it is especially great when you do press the button it tells you to, but you still die. Yep, QTEs suck. Oh and also QTEs ruined Ninja Gaiden 3.

mashey is a word in my dictionary. so is "douchetastic".

soundcellx

Opinions are welcome, be it negative or positive ones, as long as they're voiced in a mature manner with some reasoning behind them. Monkey voiced his opinion, and while I disagree with many things he said I can't argue with him due to the fact that he both stated it's an opinion, and respected and acknolwedged other opinions. You're forcing your thoughts to be facts, that's just garbage.

Explore in other games buddy, in such a game you're not supposed to. God of War is built around combat and combos, it ain't no RPG. Running around isn't the only type of replayability. I've beaten GoW III more than 12 times so far, I've spent more time on it than I did on many open RPG's. If it fits your gameplay you'd understand.

"QTEs are horrible. No exceptions." There again, you're trying to make your opinion sound like a fact. Yes, the boring scenes in which you are pressing buttons can be fun for others, believe it or not. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad, I dislike Demon's Souls and I still believe it's a great game for what it promises.

And not everybody speaks your dictionary language. Also, please keep on ignoring the other points I presented, it simply proves you have nothing to say against them.

He wasn't threatening anyone. He was just saying that he beat up dorks in school. I see no threatening here.

Oh and multiplayer helped ruin the Ninja Gaiden series and Resident Evil series. Just look at those horrendous NG3 and RE: ORC games.

soundcellx

Threatening can be on different levels, implying it in this situation is one of those levels.

Did I ever say multi-player is good? Did I ever say it improved anything? I already said I hate it, I can't stand it. For me it ruined Assassin's Creed series. But still, other people like it and no matter what, I have no right to call those people "brats" or "morons" or whatever word your best friend over here uses.

As the gentleman below me said, please leave these forums. You've completely plagued them with your utter immaturity and cynicism that it's gotten ridiculous. When we keep telling you just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad and you just won't get it, you know there's something wrong. "Ooh, shooters are generic. Oooh, I'm gonna make a topic that disses shooters just for fun, then try to diss this gen games on every other topic even when it's completely uncalled for." Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

finalserenade75

No. I won't shut up. I will not shut up when this gen is all about ruining video game series I once loved. Ninja Gaiden 3 has now made the Ninja Gaiden series trash, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City made the Resident Evil series trash, Final Fantasy has been Call of Duty-ized (interview with the director who says he was inspired by CoD) and I would not be surprised if the next Final Fantasy game has multiplayer.

That is what current video game devs are doing to ruin games, and casual new Call of Duty gamers, like yourself, are doing to ruin games. Games went from fun to competitive shootie trash.

I love video games and I'm sure as hell going to ***** and moan when video games are being ruined by clowns.

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

soundcellx

No. I won't shut up. I will not shut up when this gen is all about ruining video game series I once loved. Ninja Gaiden 3 has now made the Ninja Gaiden series trash, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City made the Resident Evil series trash, Final Fantasy has been Call of Duty-ized (interview with the director who says he was inspired by CoD) and I would not be surprised if the next Final Fantasy game has multiplayer.

That is what current video game devs are doing to ruin games, and casual new Call of Duty gamers, like yourself, are doing to ruin games. Games went from fun to competitive shootie trash.

I love video games and I'm sure as hell going to ***** and moan when video games are being ruined by clowns.

I take it you hate multiplayer then?

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

worlock77

No. I won't shut up. I will not shut up when this gen is all about ruining video game series I once loved. Ninja Gaiden 3 has now made the Ninja Gaiden series trash, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City made the Resident Evil series trash, Final Fantasy has been Call of Duty-ized (interview with the director who says he was inspired by CoD) and I would not be surprised if the next Final Fantasy game has multiplayer.

That is what current video game devs are doing to ruin games, and casual new Call of Duty gamers, like yourself, are doing to ruin games. Games went from fun to competitive shootie trash.

I love video games and I'm sure as hell going to ***** and moan when video games are being ruined by clowns.

I take it you hate multiplayer then?

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

soundcellx

No. I won't shut up. I will not shut up when this gen is all about ruining video game series I once loved. Ninja Gaiden 3 has now made the Ninja Gaiden series trash, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City made the Resident Evil series trash, Final Fantasy has been Call of Duty-ized (interview with the director who says he was inspired by CoD) and I would not be surprised if the next Final Fantasy game has multiplayer.

That is what current video game devs are doing to ruin games, and casual new Call of Duty gamers, like yourself, are doing to ruin games. Games went from fun to competitive shootie trash.

I love video games and I'm sure as hell going to ***** and moan when video games are being ruined by clowns.

I have played one Call of Duty game in my entire life, it was Call of Duty 2 around 7 years ago, try again buddy. Oh wait, you're one of those hipsters who think Call of Duty is crap for the sole reason that it's popular. Lemme guess, you like underground hardcore games that test your skills? Please, I seen your type and lemme tell you that you ain't as good as you think you are.

So what if games are becoming casual? People got jobs, got families, relationships, etc. Few of us are still in school and got all day long to play games and grind for countless hours. Developers know where money's at, and it's at these casual players. The Final Fantasy director said that he was inspired by Call of Duty, he didn't try to copy it. Beethoven was inspired by Bach, he didn't copy him either. If you think Resident Evil 5 and Raccoon City ruined the series then don't play them, go back to the old ones. I didn't enjoy 5 at all, and hence I didn't buy Raccoon City. I do however still play 2.

And please, do not make assumptions about me or what type of person/gamer I am. "Casual new Call of Duty games" like me? Did you look in the crystal to find out when I started playing games or what kinda games I play? Judging by your words I'd say you're younger than me, and you're just another elitist with much time who thinks he's better than others. Then you go to say video games are being ruined by clowns, the clowns who have been in the industry for years now, who know at least a 100 times more than you do about games. If you reallt like hardcore games there are plenty of them, there's no need to buy a console then complain about the games it has to offer. More importantly, there's absolutely no need for you to go to a place where people are discussing features about a game they like so you'd express your hate towards it.

We're discussing multi-player in God of War then all of a sudden you say God of War sucks. How is that related? Do we care? Was it even called for? Did anybody ask about your opinion? Guess in the end you said it yourself, you're just "*****ing and moaning."

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I take it you hate multiplayer then?

soundcellx

Linear is horrible because you don't get to explore. Exploration and openness adds to replayability.

soundcellx

But multi-player adds to replayability. By your logic multi-player is good.

Oh wait, you're one of those hipsters who think Call of Duty is crap for the sole reason that it's popular.

So what if games are becoming casual? People got jobs, got families, relationships, etc. Few of us are still in school and got all day long to play games and grind for countless hours.

Then you go to say video games are being ruined by clowns, the clowns who have been in the industry for years now, who know at least a 100 times more than you do about games.finalserenade75

No, those devs know how to make money, not better games. If I had the opportunity, I could produce a better video game than most of those clowns can.

But multi-player adds to replayability. By your logic multi-player is good.

finalserenade75

No, Call of Duty sucks because they are Clone of Duty Modern Borefare. You play one, you've played them all since they are all the exact same ****ing cloned game.

You do know that video games have a save feature, right?

No, those devs know how to make money, not better games. If I had the opportunity, I could produce a better video game than most of those clowns can.

soundcellx

Right, keep telling yourself that. Did you play every Call of Duty game? Were you in the team that made them? We all know you're hating on the series 'cause it's the cool thing to do.

What does the save feature have to do with anything? I said people don't have time to grind, did I say they don't have time to start from scratch? You're just grasping on straws here man, get your logic right.

You really think you can make a better game? Did you study game theory? Do you know the slightest clue about game design? Let alone game developement, project management and all that stuff. Even if you do, you'll be making a game you think is better, and which you enjoy more. I mean, I honestly don't know what to say to such a delusional person such as yourself. This may come harsh, but you're a nobody.

Dead Space 2's multiplayer was dead the first week, and so are many games that are not Call of Duty. So, you do not really have a point.

soundcellx

Yes, yes I do have a point. Multi-player, no matter how dead it is adds to the replayability. And Dead Space 2 multi-player died in a week, that doesn't mean it's universal. "I saw a man, he was white. Therefore every man is white." Your logic is flawed, and you're too blind to see it.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

No, Call of Duty sucks because they are Clone of Duty Modern Borefare. You play one, you've played them all since they are all the exact same ****ing cloned game.

You do know that video games have a save feature, right?

No, those devs know how to make money, not better games. If I had the opportunity, I could produce a better video game than most of those clowns can.

finalserenade75

Right, keep telling yourself that. Did you play every Call of Duty game? Were you in the team that made them? We all know you're hating on the series 'cause it's the cool thing to do.

What does the save feature have to do with anything? I said people don't have time to grind, did I say they don't have time to start from scratch? You're just grasping on straws here man, get your logic right.

You really think you can make a better game? Did you study game theory? Do you know the slightest clue about game design? Let alone game developement, project management and all that stuff. Even if you do, you'll be making a game you think is better, and which you enjoy more. I mean, I honestly don't know what to say to such a delusional person such as yourself. This may come harsh, but you're a nobody.

Dead Space 2's multiplayer was dead the first week, and so are many games that are not Call of Duty. So, you do not really have a point.

soundcellx

Yes, yes I do have a point. Multi-player, no matter how dead it is adds to the replayability. And Dead Space 2 multi-player died in a week, that doesn't mean it's universal. "I saw a man, he was white. Therefore every man is white." Your logic is flawed, and you're too blind to see it.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

No, Call of Duty sucks because they are Clone of Duty Modern Borefare. You play one, you've played them all since they are all the exact same ****ing cloned game.

You do know that video games have a save feature, right?

No, those devs know how to make money, not better games. If I had the opportunity, I could produce a better video game than most of those clowns can.

finalserenade75

Right, keep telling yourself that. Did you play every Call of Duty game? Were you in the team that made them? We all know you're hating on the series 'cause it's the cool thing to do.

What does the save feature have to do with anything? I said people don't have time to grind, did I say they don't have time to start from scratch? You're just grasping on straws here man, get your logic right.

You really think you can make a better game? Did you study game theory? Do you know the slightest clue about game design? Let alone game developement, project management and all that stuff. Even if you do, you'll be making a game you think is better, and which you enjoy more. I mean, I honestly don't know what to say to such a delusional person such as yourself. This may come harsh, but you're a nobody.

Dead Space 2's multiplayer was dead the first week, and so are many games that are not Call of Duty. So, you do not really have a point.

soundcellx

Yes, yes I do have a point. Multi-player, no matter how dead it is adds to the replayability. And Dead Space 2 multi-player died in a week, that doesn't mean it's universal. "I saw a man, he was white. Therefore every man is white." Your logic is flawed, and you're too blind to see it.

Oh yeah, well just try playing Haze's multiplayer, Transformers War for Cybertron, Quantum of Solace, Bloodstone, Red Faction G, and any other tacked on multiplayer game with dead online. Oh and I heard tha MAG (an online only game) is dead in the water too. That makes MAG obsolete as anything but a coaster.

soundcellx

Giving me examples won't prove your point. Call of Duty, Battlefield, Little Big Planet, Modnation Racer, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, White Knight Chronicles, Gears of War, Halo, etc. See my point? And for the games you listed, the multi-player didn't detract anything. Heck for those who got the game when they were released they must've gotten plenty of hours from that tacked on multi-player feature.

MAG is dying, sure. But what does this have to do with anything? We went from adding multi-player to online based games? Can I throw in World of Warcraft and other MMO's and how successful some of them are now that we're here? (MMO's are online-only and they have arguably the highest replayability value). This is completely irrelevant. And even if it were, those who bought it got plent of replayability out of it.

This isn't the first time Soundcellx has criticised a top class game. He also called MGS4 crap when the sales/reviews for the game proved otherwise. I have repeatedly said I don't play GoW but that doesn't mean it's crap. Look at the sales of a game before commenting (Soundcellx), because you just make yourself look foolish.H_M_1

You wanna talk sales? Country music sells a lot, WWE is popular, Twilight is loved by millions, Avatar sold bajillions, the Transformers movies did really well at the theater, etc., and all those things are the equivalent to diarrhea.

So, you look foolish, not me.

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]This isn't the first time Soundcellx has criticised a top class game. He also called MGS4 crap when the sales/reviews for the game proved otherwise. I have repeatedly said I don't play GoW but that doesn't mean it's crap. Look at the sales of a game before commenting (Soundcellx), because you just make yourself look foolish.soundcellx

You wanna talk sales? Country music sells a lot, WWE is popular, Twilight is loved by millions, Avatar sold bajillions, the Transformers movies did really well at the theater, etc., and all those things are the equivalent to diarrhea.

So, you look foolish, not me.

YOU ARE RUINING THE PS3 BOARD, GET THE HELL OUT. H_M_1

Do you seriously think they're gonna go "Yeah, this game didn't need MP at all but we just made the single player have a bit less content so we could make the multiplayer"? I've seen this happen to many games and it's almost always been for the worst in the end.anime_gamer007

The SP is not short because they added MP it's short because of the narrative they want to tell. I prefer a title with a tight and gripping SP experience then one with plenty of padding. As for MP, it looks nice, it captures the theme of GoW and can potentially be fun. I trust SSM they seem to be really blunt and truthful, Im sure they have amazing things cooking for the SP and MP.

I don't have a problem with multiplayer. It didn't hurt Uncharted or Assassin's Creed. The problem I have is it'll be shorter than the first 3 games and this is with 3 years in the making. That is some momentous bullsh!t that Santa Monica don't have any excuse for.

Floppy_Jim

I agree with you but the fact SSM are being so truthful about the length of the SP has me curious. They must feel pretty confident about what they have in store if they feel length isn't an issue.

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]YOU ARE RUINING THE PS3 BOARD, GET THE HELL OUT. soundcellx

You're trolling. Poorly at that.

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]YOU ARE RUINING THE PS3 BOARD, GET THE HELL OUT. soundcellx

No buddy, you're bringing down the average intellegence of this board to an absolute minimum. I love how you stopped replying to me after having your rear handed to you. Keep on hating games, just remember at the end of the day that Santa Monica are making millions and you ain't making crap. That we're enjoying these games and you're taking that enjoyment from yourself.

Mein Got, has this become a train of the tracks...

... As Harvey Corman says in "Blazing Saddles":

"Gentle-men, GENTLE-MEEEEEENNNNNNNNN... Calm Your Sphincters!"

I think the point has been horribly buried, twisted, and mangled beyond recognition, and there should be a return to mutual corners with an agreement to simply disagree.

This is not the end of the world, or the beginning of a new one. It's a GAME. Ferocious attitude like this should be saved for human rights issues, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked...

... Unless they're extremely attractive, of course...

We need some humor, all of us, as to how we view and treat one-another. Just because the game has MP doesn't ASSURE a lame SP. Statistically, it's got an uphill climb. But if it's enjoyable to those who are looking for it, then that should be celebrated. And for those who feel threatened by this, I say just move along.

Anything less is to forget the beauty of forum.

fo·rum(fôrm, fr-)

n.pl.fo·rums also fo·ra(fôr, fr)1. a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.b. A public meeting place for open discussion.c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.3. A court of law; a tribunal.

[Middle English, from Latin; see dhwer- in Indo-European roots.]

We discuss things here, we don't take it into the street for a knock-down.

Cell & Shang have a right to express themselves, but not at the expense of others on a personal level. I have had good interactions with both of you in the past so I know you are capable of conducting yourselves on a higher level than some of the posts I have read here today.

To be crystal-clear: I am NOT chiding either of you for your conduct thus-far, and a few have even egged it on a bit so defense is an understandable position... I'm simply suggesting that you views can be more eloquently conveyed so that you might get others to see your side of it even though they may not agree.

MP is a touchy issue for some folks, obviously. And I think it's healthy to discuss it, and probably a cathartic exercise for the industry as I'm sure they try to keep a feel on the community pulse for such things through forums like this one (there may even be someone from Santa Monica watching right now)... But we need to maintain a civility in these proceedings.

ALL of us. Even MY dumb azz.:D

I think it's too bad that yet another game has gone MP, but that doesn't stop me from wishing for the best possible outcome. A beloved franchise is carrying on, and that should be good news to all of us regardless of our personal nit-pickings. I remember a time back on the PS2 where they said there was slim-to-no chance of another GoW game ever being made again. This was right after the second game, I believe, before they announced the PSP games (which are phenominal, by the way, for a hand-held or console)... I remember feeling cut off; Truncated. I wasn't finished with Kratos.

Luckily for all of us who love the series, neither were they.

I won't be buying the coming game. But that doesn't hurt me, so in the process, I wish it success and long life...

('Live Long, And Prosper'? Did I REALLY just say that??? Oy, the Geek Genome runs deep in this one...):lol:

But I think we can all take a step back, a deep breath, perhaps some apologies for toes trod on? In the end, we are all gamers - We should support each other's interests, not tear them down just because they don't meet with our own.

Just a thought.

[QUOTE="campzor"]Again...santa monica....cant go wrongsoundcellx

- Whine about the 'god of War' franchise needing something new.

- Whine about it getting something new.

Are gamers ever satisfied?

worlock77

All you do is **** and complain.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]Again, your opinion is welcome, just voice it when it's needed.

worlock77

No. I won't shut up. I will not shut up when this gen is all about ruining video game series I once loved. Ninja Gaiden 3 has now made the Ninja Gaiden series trash, Resident Evil 5 and Resident Evil Operation Raccoon City made the Resident Evil series trash, Final Fantasy has been Call of Duty-ized (interview with the director who says he was inspired by CoD) and I would not be surprised if the next Final Fantasy game has multiplayer.

That is what current video game devs are doing to ruin games, and casual new Call of Duty gamers, like yourself, are doing to ruin games. Games went from fun to competitive shootie trash.

I love video games and I'm sure as hell going to ***** and moan when video games are being ruined by clowns.

I take it you hate multiplayer then?

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

Oh yeah, well just try playing Haze's multiplayer, Transformers War for Cybertron, Quantum of Solace, Bloodstone, Red Faction G, and any other tacked on multiplayer game with dead online. Oh and I heard tha MAG (an online only game) is dead in the water too. That makes MAG obsolete as anything but a coaster.

finalserenade75

Giving me examples won't prove your point. Call of Duty, Battlefield, Little Big Planet, Modnation Racer, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, White Knight Chronicles, Gears of War, Halo, etc. See my point? And for the games you listed, the multi-player didn't detract anything. Heck for those who got the game when they were released they must've gotten plenty of hours from that tacked on multi-player feature.

MAG is dying, sure. But what does this have to do with anything? We went from adding multi-player to online based games? Can I throw in World of Warcraft and other MMO's and how successful some of them are now that we're here? (MMO's are online-only and they have arguably the highest replayability value). This is completely irrelevant. And even if it were, those who bought it got plent of replayability out of it.

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

Oh yeah, well just try playing Haze's multiplayer, Transformers War for Cybertron, Quantum of Solace, Bloodstone, Red Faction G, and any other tacked on multiplayer game with dead online. Oh and I heard tha MAG (an online only game) is dead in the water too. That makes MAG obsolete as anything but a coaster.

ShangTsung17

Giving me examples won't prove your point. Call of Duty, Battlefield, Little Big Planet, Modnation Racer, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, White Knight Chronicles, Gears of War, Halo, etc. See my point? And for the games you listed, the multi-player didn't detract anything. Heck for those who got the game when they were released they must've gotten plenty of hours from that tacked on multi-player feature.

MAG is dying, sure. But what does this have to do with anything? We went from adding multi-player to online based games? Can I throw in World of Warcraft and other MMO's and how successful some of them are now that we're here? (MMO's are online-only and they have arguably the highest replayability value). This is completely irrelevant. And even if it were, those who bought it got plent of replayability out of it.

I... what? When on earth did I say that? I even said more than once that I HATE multi-player, last time I played a multi-player game on my PS3 was Killzone 2, around 2 years ago. Please read correctly. Yes, I stopped and listened to myself, can you say the same? Guess you really should've paid attention in class instead of beating others, you could have learned to read by now.

All you do is **** and complain.StrongBlackVine

finalserenade- calm down fella.. breath... if u hate mp so much than why in the name of fvck bisquits are u verbally attacking people who are trying to keep it from ruining the entire gaming franchise??? thats like disagreeing with hitler than signing up to a nazi party... lol wtf?

finalserenade- calm down fella.. breath... if u hate mp so much than why in the name of fvck bisquits are u verbally attacking people who are trying to keep it from ruining the entire gaming franchise??? thats like disagreeing with hitler than signing up to a nazi party... lol wtf?

ShangTsung17

First of all I'm calm, thank you.

Second, umm... dude, are you normal? I'm not the one verbally attacking others, it's the exact thing I'm arguing against. You and your buddy started cursing and insulting others who merely expressed the idea of liking multi-player. I wrote paragraph after another saying that you should keep an open mind about it, and that if you dislike it then simply express it once and express it while respecting others and their opinions. You're accusing me of what you're doing.

Yes, I hate multi-player. That however does not mean that I can go around insulting those who like it, or assuming that multi-player is bad is a fact. Go back and read what you wrote and I what I did. You keep dropping the F bombs and other insults after every 5 words, that is the attitude that got me started on this seemingly never-ending argument.

Mein Got, has this become a train of the tracks...

... As Harvey Corman says in "Blazing Saddles":

"Gentle-men, GENTLE-MEEEEEENNNNNNNNN... Calm Your Sphincters!"

I think the point has been horribly buried, twisted, and mangled beyond recognition, and there should be a return to mutual corners with an agreement to simply disagree.

This is not the end of the world, or the beginning of a new one. It's a GAME. Ferocious attitude like this should be saved for human rights issues, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked...

... Unless they're extremely attractive, of course...

We need some humor, all of us, as to how we view and treat one-another. Just because the game has MP doesn't ASSURE a lame SP. Statistically, it's got an uphill climb. But if it's enjoyable to those who are looking for it, then that should be celebrated. And for those who feel threatened by this, I say just move along.

Anything less is to forget the beauty of forum.

fo·rum(fôrm, fr-)

n.pl.fo·rums also fo·ra(fôr, fr)1. a. The public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was the assembly place for judicial activity and public business.b. A public meeting place for open discussion.c. A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radio or television program, or a website.2. A public meeting or presentation involving a discussion usually among experts and often including audience participation.3. A court of law; a tribunal.

---

[Middle English, from Latin; see dhwer- in Indo-European roots.]

We discuss things here, we don't take it into the street for a knock-down.

Cell & Shang have a right to express themselves, but not at the expense of others on a personal level. I have had good interactions with both of you in the past so I know you are capable of conducting yourselves on a higher level than some of the posts I have read here today.

To be crystal-clear: I am NOT chiding either of you for your conduct thus-far, and a few have even egged it on a bit so defense is an understandable position... I'm simply suggesting that you views can be more eloquently conveyed so that you might get others to see your side of it even though they may not agree.

MP is a touchy issue for some folks, obviously. And I think it's healthy to discuss it, and probably a cathartic exercise for the industry as I'm sure they try to keep a feel on the community pulse for such things through forums like this one (there may even be someone from Santa Monica watching right now)... But we need to maintain a civility in these proceedings.

ALL of us. Even MY dumb azz.:D

I think it's too bad that yet another game has gone MP, but that doesn't stop me from wishing for the best possible outcome. A beloved franchise is carrying on, and that should be good news to all of us regardless of our personal nit-pickings. I remember a time back on the PS2 where they said there was slim-to-no chance of another GoW game ever being made again. This was right after the second game, I believe, before they announced the PSP games (which are phenominal, by the way, for a hand-held or console)... I remember feeling cut off; Truncated. I wasn't finished with Kratos.

Luckily for all of us who love the series, neither were they.

I won't be buying the coming game. But that doesn't hurt me, so in the process, I wish it success and long life...

('Live Long, And Prosper'? Did I REALLY just say that??? Oy, the Geek Genome runs deep in this one...):lol:

But I think we can all take a step back, a deep breath, perhaps some apologies for toes trod on? In the end, we are all gamers - We should support each other's interests, not tear them down just because they don't meet with our own.

Just a thought.

MonkeySpot

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

finalserenade- calm down fella.. breath... if u hate mp so much than why in the name of fvck bisquits are u verbally attacking people who are trying to keep it from ruining the entire gaming franchise??? thats like disagreeing with hitler than signing up to a nazi party... lol wtf?

finalserenade75

First of all I'm calm, thank you.

Second, umm... dude, are you normal? I'm not the one verbally attacking others, it's the exact thing I'm arguing against. You and your buddy started cursing and insulting others who merely expressed the idea of liking multi-player. I wrote paragraph after another saying that you should keep an open mind about it, and that if you dislike it then simply express it once and express it while respecting others and their opinions. You're accusing me of what you're doing.

Yes, I hate multi-player. That however does not mean that I can go around insulting those who like it, or assuming that multi-player is bad is a fact. Go back and read what you wrote and I what I did. You keep dropping the F bombs and other insults after every 5 words, that is the attitude that got me started on this seemingly never-ending argument.

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]

[QUOTE="ShangTsung17"]

finalserenade- calm down fella.. breath... if u hate mp so much than why in the name of fvck bisquits are u verbally attacking people who are trying to keep it from ruining the entire gaming franchise??? thats like disagreeing with hitler than signing up to a nazi party... lol wtf?

soundcellx

First of all I'm calm, thank you.

Second, umm... dude, are you normal? I'm not the one verbally attacking others, it's the exact thing I'm arguing against. You and your buddy started cursing and insulting others who merely expressed the idea of liking multi-player. I wrote paragraph after another saying that you should keep an open mind about it, and that if you dislike it then simply express it once and express it while respecting others and their opinions. You're accusing me of what you're doing.

Yes, I hate multi-player. That however does not mean that I can go around insulting those who like it, or assuming that multi-player is bad is a fact. Go back and read what you wrote and I what I did. You keep dropping the F bombs and other insults after every 5 words, that is the attitude that got me started on this seemingly never-ending argument.

Ok now I'm certain you're trolling. No, that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying I hate multi-player, and I hope it never touches the series I like (yet sadly the opposite is happening, this very topic is an example). That however does not mean I can insult those who like it, and that I should express my dislike towards it in a mature and respectful manner, not in a one full of insults and curse words. I don't think I can break it down anymore than this, if you still can't fully grasp what I'm saying then you should really consider visiting a doctor.

I don't think I can break it down anymore than this, if you still can't fully grasp what I'm saying then you should really consider visiting a doctor.finalserenade75

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]I don't think I can break it down anymore than this, if you still can't fully grasp what I'm saying then you should really consider visiting a doctor.soundcellx

Now what do you think? Of course a proctologist.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="finalserenade75"]

First of all I'm calm, thank you.

Second, umm... dude, are you normal? I'm not the one verbally attacking others, it's the exact thing I'm arguing against. You and your buddy started cursing and insulting others who merely expressed the idea of liking multi-player. I wrote paragraph after another saying that you should keep an open mind about it, and that if you dislike it then simply express it once and express it while respecting others and their opinions. You're accusing me of what you're doing.

Yes, I hate multi-player. That however does not mean that I can go around insulting those who like it, or assuming that multi-player is bad is a fact. Go back and read what you wrote and I what I did. You keep dropping the F bombs and other insults after every 5 words, that is the attitude that got me started on this seemingly never-ending argument.

finalserenade75

Ok now I'm certain you're trolling. No, that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying I hate multi-player, and I hope it never touches the series I like (yet sadly the opposite is happening, this very topic is an example). That however does not mean I can insult those who like it, and that I should express my dislike towards it in a mature and respectful manner, not in a one full of insults and curse words. I don't think I can break it down anymore than this, if you still can't fully grasp what I'm saying then you should really consider visiting a doctor.

You see some 'kids' are just bringing in trashy arguments with no ground and they need to get stamped out.H_M_1

Understood. Carry on.

:lol:

Ugh... Why must everything get MP these days? What's next? Tacking on MP for the next Elder Scrolls game?The-Apostle

Just a friendly word of caution.

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Ugh... Why must everything get MP these days? What's next? Tacking on MP for the next Elder Scrolls game?soundcellx

Just a friendly word of caution.

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Ugh... Why must everything get MP these days? What's next? Tacking on MP for the next Elder Scrolls game?H_M_1

Just a friendly word of caution.

[QUOTE="H_M_1"][QUOTE="soundcellx"]Hey, watch out! HM1 and Final will say you are trolling if you go on saying things like that.

Just a friendly word of caution.

soundcellx

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]

[QUOTE="H_M_1"] There is no evidence Apostle is trolling, take a nice deep look at your posts and see how you're trolling. Why a perfect example would be JRPG thread where you quoted and completely insulted a persons recommendation of Final Fantasy. Nice try buddy, but try harder.H_M_1

[QUOTE="H_M_1"][QUOTE="soundcellx"]but you called me a troll because I am against multiplayer in all games, yet this guy is doing the same thing, yet you haven't called him a troll. you can at the very least be consistent.

The-Apostle

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="H_M_1"] Yes, however he hasn't insulted those that like multiplayer, and perhaps you could bring me evidence that he has trolled in the past.soundcellx

May I say, at this point, that I'm beginning to see everyone's point Cell...

:|

... Why is this back-and-forth continuing for days now? This thread has lost it's way, and I'm beginning to wonder why it's going on so long as it has. This isn't a pissing contest - Or at least, it SHOULDN'T be. I can't explain or defend your right to speak if all that's going to come of it is name calling, or exaggerational quoting for the sole intention of spinning words.

I don't want to pick sides, but I'm feeling that HM1 and the rest have a valid bone to pick here unless you can put on some Daddy Pants and conduct yourself with a little decorum. Debate is an art, and something we should all engage in. It spreads ideas, and promotes change in many cases. But not if you're going to put words in people's mouths or promote assumptions which clearly have no veracity.

Please, debate the issue, don't make personal attacks or libelous accusation.

libel

li·bel

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"][QUOTE="H_M_1"] Yes, however he hasn't insulted those that like multiplayer, and perhaps you could bring me evidence that he has trolled in the past.soundcellx

Where did I say I don't like it? I merely said it's not needed. Personally, I don't really care one way or another but the trend to put it in traditional SP games is annoying.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"] Yeah, I don't care who likes multiplayer. I don't even care if games have MP. I just don't see a reason that games that were traditionally SP should get MP and it's a trend now. Also, I don't recall ever trolling. ;)The-Apostle

Where did I say I don't like it? I merely said it's not needed. Personally, I don't really care one way or another but the trend to put it in traditional SP games is annoying.

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

[QUOTE="soundcellx"]Yes, but you did say that you don't like multiplayer though!

HM1 and Final are going to be very mad with you, since they love multiplayer and they think it is the best thing in the world, ever. They even think multiplayer is better than sex.

H_M_1

Where did I say I don't like it? I merely said it's not needed. Personally, I don't really care one way or another but the trend to put it in traditional SP games is annoying.

You know, I've been saying that to myself ever since this announcement -

At least, I still have the "Darksiders" series to fall back on.

:lol:

Very excited for that next game!

:D

MP is not evil. I play online occasionally. I'm a BLOPs fan (cue booing and scoffing), and from an SP and MP standpoint, I'm really, REALLY jazzed about what I've seen for BLOPs II (begin burning MonkeySpot in effigy, everyone). I don't play MW3, or BF3, I just play BLOPs. I own a bunch of games with online components which I have never taken online, not once. One game for online play is good enough for me, but I can see where hack'n'slashers might like what I've seen on YouTube of the GoW MP. It's not for me, but, "I'll Allow It"... So-to-speak. If people will allow me my BLOPs dedication, then I see nothing wrong with letting this be, after all, the story mode for GoWA is probably going to be just as great as the other games in the series across multiple platforms.

I think that the next BLOPs is going to have a "Die Hard" over-the-top ridiculous action story mode, and I think they're instituting some interesting toys and mechanics to the MP. I'm not an all-or-nothing gamer when it comes to the two game modes. And I expect some heat for it (in terms of my BLOP-Love). But in my gaming experience, it's best to keep as open a mind as possible. Making condemnational statements about ANY game genre, or component is limiting my own growth, so I try not to do it. But I agree that there are certain games which simply don't lend themselves to one or the other component. "Dead Space 2", someone brought up, is a perfect example.

It's a fine line. And as long as it's not making prices go up, or cost us additional fees to engage in it... What's the harm?

[QUOTE="H_M_1"][QUOTE="The-Apostle"]

Where did I say I don't like it? I merely said it's not needed. Personally, I don't really care one way or another but the trend to put it in traditional SP games is annoying.

MonkeySpot

You know, I've been saying that to myself ever since this announcement -

At least, I still have the "Darksiders" series to fall back on.

:lol:

Very excited for that next game!

:D

MP is not evil. I play online occasionally. I'm a BLOPs fan (cue booing and scoffing), and from an SP and MP standpoint, I'm really, REALLY jazzed about what I've seen for BLOPs II (begin burning MonkeySpot in effigy, everyone). I don't play MW3, or BF3, I just play BLOPs. I own a bunch of games with online components which I have never taken online, not once. One game for online play is good enough for me, but I can see where hack'n'slashers might like what I've seen on YouTube of the GoW MP. It's not for me, but, "I'll Allow It"... So-to-speak. If people will allow me my BLOPs dedication, then I see nothing wrong with letting this be, after all, the story mode for GoWA is probably going to be just as great as the other games in the series across multiple platforms.

I think that the next BLOPs is going to have a "Die Hard" over-the-top ridiculous action story mode, and I think they're instituting some interesting toys and mechanics to the MP. I'm not an all-or-nothing gamer when it comes to the two game modes. And I expect some heat for it (in terms of my BLOP-Love). But in my gaming experience, it's best to keep as open a mind as possible. Making condemnational statements about ANY game genre, or component is limiting my own growth, so I try not to do it. But I agree that there are certain games which simply don't lend themselves to one or the other component. "Dead Space 2", someone brought up, is a perfect example.

It's a fine line. And as long as it's not making prices go up, or cost us additional fees to engage in it... What's the harm?

Ugh... Why must everything get MP these days? What's next? Tacking on MP for the next Elder Scrolls game?The-Apostle