[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Mihael-Keehl"]
I never got past the 20 minute mark on Portable ops, but i dont really think its canon. Peace walker doesnt have anything to do with it, story wise, it takes off right after MGS3.
IronBeaver
:| Snake Eater is 1964. Portable Ops is 1970, and is most definitely canon. Peace Walker may be a more important game to the overall Metal Gear saga, but it takes place in 1974. Anyways, now that that's cleared up... some things will be spoiled if you haven't played MGS4, so I'll try to dodge that. 1. No, but he used the confusion to make his move against the CIA and what remained of the American Philosophers (the CIA had half of the Philosopher's Legacy, which is why they had asserted more power over the course of the '60's, diminishing the Pentagon). 2. Gene wanted to blow up both Langley (the CIA) and the Pentagon, as the Philosophers had strong influence in both (remember the money was in the CIA, but the Pentagon still had history). 3. Not exactly. He found out that the nuclear Metal Gear missile had been launched and was trying to take shelter. Ocelot killed him in the confusion to get both info on the remaining Philosophers and also to take the last half of the Philosophers' Legacy. 4. In Snake Eater, he was indeed working for the CIA... for the American Philosophers. By Portable Ops, his allegiances had switched to "the man with the same codename as Null," though he didn't realize who his benefactor was until the phone call at the end. The other half of the Legacy was in the KGB's hands, per the phone call at the end of Snake Eater. In the 6 years between the games, Ocelot managed to obtain the KGB's portion, though he kept it hidden rather than turn it over to the CIA. Ocelot and the man with the same codename as Null then conspired to form The Patriots, though Ocelot would only take part if Big Boss could be in on it.Thanks man. But as far as question 1, werent gene and ocelot on the phone at some point in the game?
oh and also, i have played every metal gear except for PW. You can say whatever.
Possibly, but I don't recall anything very important from it. The main thing to remember with Ocelot is that he was always acting under Zero's orders in this game, though he didn't realize it until the phone call after the PO credits. I haven't played Peace Walker yet, but here are the main takeaways from Portable Ops that are important to the overall saga.1. The events of the game set things in motion that led to the American Philosophers being defunded and becoming defunct, allowing Zero and the Patriots to fill that power vacuum.
2. The FOX unit was disbanded after many of them went rogue, and those that became loyal to Big Boss were the first members of the unit that became FOXHOUND.
3. Big Boss realizes that his fame is not limited solely to America and the West, but also extends to the Soviet Union and the East, because Volgin was seen by most as a traitor who betrayed his homeland when he fired a nuke on his own people. He is seen as a hero to all people, not just those of a particular country or ideology.
4. Big Boss took the money that Gene gave him and kept it hidden away from The Patriots. While not near as much as the Philosopher's Legacy, it was a vast enough sum to allow him to form Militaires Sans Frontieres, the group that you're a part of in Peace Walker, and later to establish Outer Heaven while simultaneously leading FOXHOUND in the 1990's.
5. Gene refers to a certain strategist that manipulated Volgin into firing that nuke in the Virtuous Mission that ruined everyone's plans and resulted in The Boss being branded a traitor. This factor is not known until Portable Ops, and is not referenced in MGS4 either... though from what I have heard, it is addressed in Peace Walker. None of those that became The Patriots can be this strategist, because all of them place their loyalty to either Zero or Big Boss, and her death was something none of them wanted.
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