GTA4 graphics sub-par

Is it just me, or do the graphics in the GTA4 trailers look like less then we seen from some of the other games coming out? They don't look terrible, just not as good as a highly anticipated Next-gen game should look..Andrewguy360

[QUOTE="seany_lad"]tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:moshakirby

[QUOTE="moshakirby"][QUOTE="seany_lad"]tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:kalkhaja

Have you seen the trailer yet? I think so.

[QUOTE="moshakirby"][QUOTE="seany_lad"]tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:kalkhaja

[QUOTE="justifythegame"][QUOTE="henry4th"][QUOTE="Takiwara"][QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="justifythegame"]

Basically the developers are lazy. They have always been lazy when it comes to graphics. If you played the ps2 gta games, the graphics look like ps1 graphics. So i would expect the ps3 version to have like ps2 graphics. Why would they care? They are going to sell a ton even if its great graphics or not, all you have to do it put the name GTA on it and ppl will come running. Kind of like Madden.

Also i have heard this will be the shortest GTA yet. Since they chose to go multiplatform, they can only fit enough data to go on a DVD...not bluray. So i was under the impression they chose to sacrifice graphics for length. But it seems like both will lack while still fitting on only a DVD meanwhile still costing you $60 for no apparent reason.

I got sick of playing GTA towards the end of vice city, beginning of san andreas. You can only play the same type of game for so long, thats why i stopped playing shooters too. I would rather wait for them to make a new innovative game much like when GTA3 first came out or Halo. I want to play something new. But i guess as long as people keep paying $60 for the same crap, a lot of developers won't have to make anything new.

aaron6581230

Please tell me you are kidding calling R* "lazy"? Their attention to detail is incredible past most other developers. Just look at the comparison shots from Liberty City Landmarks and their New York City counterparts.

The tone down in graphics in all GTA games is most likely due the MASSIVE amount of things going on at any given time. This isn't a linear game at all like all of the great games graphics wise that you're going to mention. Also, it's always been R*'s style to make the game real, but not too real. So I wouldn't be surprised if having the characters look a little funny was actually the direction they took.

Then again, I completely disagree all you graphics fans who won't buy a game because a few textures aren't up to snuff. It's all about gameplay to me. If the graphics are good enough that they don't distract me from the gameplay objective, then I'm thrilled.

What game play... just mindless driving and killing poeple. That's all my American friends do with this game, and even they commented that this game is about mindless fun. Thank you, I can't enjoy mindless "fun" gameplay.

If the game has a great graphics, which makes the environment and characters a lot more believable, then I might endure the mindless gameplay and just play the game to see New York city. But well, I guess that hope is now out of window.

if it is really about gameplay as you say it is, whats the point of going next gen? why did i spend $600 on a new ps3? why don't they just make it for ps2 then, heck why don't they just make it for ps1 and save us some money..it would be 39.99 right, gimmie a break.

You must be joking. Just because a dev wants to focus more on gameplay rather than graphics, it means they should charge less for it and put it on less powerful hardware? Remember, better hardware doesn't always mean better graphics. Things like physics, AI, and the amount of things happening at once on screen can be increased, thus making it a better game compared to the last gen predecessors. And remember, just because Rockstar chooses to focus on gameplay doesn't mean they have to scrap graphics for good. Have you seen the character models for the game? They look awesome!

But the AI is not improved at all. More happening on the screen? Maybe. But if they lower the graphics further, they can make these much things happening on a PS2.

All the TC and I'm saying is that, this game's graphics really doesn't look good. The character models sucks big time comparing to many many many other games out there.

Now since you love GTA so much, wouldn't you love it MORE if the graphisc looks 3 times better than it is now? You would!

Now those of us who don't care about the gameplay in this game that much, if the graphics looks 3 times better, wouldn't we like the game a bit more? We would too!

So, what's your problem about us wanting a better graphics in this game? Having a better graphics on this game would make everyone like the game a bit more? Why is it a BAD thing?

[QUOTE="kalkhaja"][QUOTE="moshakirby"][QUOTE="seany_lad"]tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:solaris1979

Have you seen the trailer yet? I think so.

[QUOTE="kalkhaja"][QUOTE="moshakirby"][QUOTE="seany_lad"]tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:moshakirby

Not another one of these thread.

LuckyLy

^^

:lol: I laughed throughout this thread ..

Sounds like people want this game to fail or something, or make people who play it seem mindless .. it's pretty sad ..

dude, that's quite normal, it's such an open world with so much going on at the same time, if they would make the graphics crysis-like the world has to be a lot smaller and it would cut out all of the fun. And besides GTA is about the fantastic open world, the things you can, the atmosphere and the gameplay are the things that make it great and not graphics. Still I think it looks quite good, there is a lot of detail in it.

Is it just me, or do the graphics in the GTA4 trailers look like less then we seen from some of the other games coming out? They don't look terrible, just not as good as a highly anticipated Next-gen game should look..Andrewguy360

[QUOTE="aaron6581230"][QUOTE="justifythegame"][QUOTE="henry4th"][QUOTE="Takiwara"][QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="justifythegame"]

Basically the developers are lazy. They have always been lazy when it comes to graphics. If you played the ps2 gta games, the graphics look like ps1 graphics. So i would expect the ps3 version to have like ps2 graphics. Why would they care? They are going to sell a ton even if its great graphics or not, all you have to do it put the name GTA on it and ppl will come running. Kind of like Madden.

Also i have heard this will be the shortest GTA yet. Since they chose to go multiplatform, they can only fit enough data to go on a DVD...not bluray. So i was under the impression they chose to sacrifice graphics for length. But it seems like both will lack while still fitting on only a DVD meanwhile still costing you $60 for no apparent reason.

I got sick of playing GTA towards the end of vice city, beginning of san andreas. You can only play the same type of game for so long, thats why i stopped playing shooters too. I would rather wait for them to make a new innovative game much like when GTA3 first came out or Halo. I want to play something new. But i guess as long as people keep paying $60 for the same crap, a lot of developers won't have to make anything new.

henry4th

Please tell me you are kidding calling R* "lazy"? Their attention to detail is incredible past most other developers. Just look at the comparison shots from Liberty City Landmarks and their New York City counterparts.

The tone down in graphics in all GTA games is most likely due the MASSIVE amount of things going on at any given time. This isn't a linear game at all like all of the great games graphics wise that you're going to mention. Also, it's always been R*'s style to make the game real, but not too real. So I wouldn't be surprised if having the characters look a little funny was actually the direction they took.

Then again, I completely disagree all you graphics fans who won't buy a game because a few textures aren't up to snuff. It's all about gameplay to me. If the graphics are good enough that they don't distract me from the gameplay objective, then I'm thrilled.

What game play... just mindless driving and killing poeple. That's all my American friends do with this game, and even they commented that this game is about mindless fun. Thank you, I can't enjoy mindless "fun" gameplay.

If the game has a great graphics, which makes the environment and characters a lot more believable, then I might endure the mindless gameplay and just play the game to see New York city. But well, I guess that hope is now out of window.

if it is really about gameplay as you say it is, whats the point of going next gen? why did i spend $600 on a new ps3? why don't they just make it for ps2 then, heck why don't they just make it for ps1 and save us some money..it would be 39.99 right, gimmie a break.

You must be joking. Just because a dev wants to focus more on gameplay rather than graphics, it means they should charge less for it and put it on less powerful hardware? Remember, better hardware doesn't always mean better graphics. Things like physics, AI, and the amount of things happening at once on screen can be increased, thus making it a better game compared to the last gen predecessors. And remember, just because Rockstar chooses to focus on gameplay doesn't mean they have to scrap graphics for good. Have you seen the character models for the game? They look awesome!

But the AI is not improved at all. More happening on the screen? Maybe. But if they lower the graphics further, they can make these much things happening on a PS2.

All the TC and I'm saying is that, this game's graphics really doesn't look good. The character models sucks big time comparing to many many many other games out there.

Now since you love GTA so much, wouldn't you love it MORE if the graphisc looks 3 times better than it is now? You would!

Now those of us who don't care about the gameplay in this game that much, if the graphics looks 3 times better, wouldn't we like the game a bit more? We would too!

So, what's your problem about us wanting a better graphics in this game? Having a better graphics on this game would make everyone like the game a bit more? Why is it a BAD thing?

Your whining isn't gonna make the graphics better

I agree the graphics are crap

tbh i think that the GTA4 graphics are pretty impressive considering how much is in the game:roll:seany_lad

[QUOTE="Andrewguy360"]Is it just me, or do the graphics in the GTA4 trailers look like less then we seen from some of the other games coming out? They don't look terrible, just not as good as a highly anticipated Next-gen game should look..justifythegame

Basically the developers are lazy. They have always been lazy when it comes to graphics. If you played the ps2 gta games, the graphics look like ps1 graphics. So i would expect the ps3 version to have like ps2 graphics. Why would they care? They are going to sell a ton even if its great graphics or not, all you have to do it put the name GTA on it and ppl will come running. Kind of like Madden.

Also i have heard this will be the shortest GTA yet. Since they chose to go multiplatform, they can only fit enough data to go on a DVD...not bluray. So i was under the impression they chose to sacrifice graphics for length. But it seems like both will lack while still fitting on only a DVD meanwhile still costing you $60 for no apparent reason.

I got sick of playing GTA towards the end of vice city, beginning of san andreas. You can only play the same type of game for so long, thats why i stopped playing shooters too. I would rather wait for them to make a new innovative game much like when GTA3 first came out or Halo. I want to play something new. But i guess as long as people keep paying $60 for the same crap, a lot of developers won't have to make anything new.

if all this crap is true, then I wonder how long will MGS4 be? they used a bazillion polygons only on Snake's mustache. plus they implemented an extremely sophisticated light/shadow play, there's vast areas to explore and a million things going on the screen, like shootings, bombings, NPCs and big-ass machines fighting each other... Not to mention that its gameplay is also very fuc king deep. So, if the hardware is as useless as GTA4 graphic-defenders say it is, then how much play time do you guys give it? 2 hours?Clauricaune

I don't give it anything close to 56... I love MGS4 but it hasnt actually been known for its length, good replay though.

[QUOTE="henry4th"][QUOTE="aaron6581230"][QUOTE="justifythegame"][QUOTE="henry4th"][QUOTE="Takiwara"][QUOTE="The_Rick_14"][QUOTE="justifythegame"]

Basically the developers are lazy. They have always been lazy when it comes to graphics. If you played the ps2 gta games, the graphics look like ps1 graphics. So i would expect the ps3 version to have like ps2 graphics. Why would they care? They are going to sell a ton even if its great graphics or not, all you have to do it put the name GTA on it and ppl will come running. Kind of like Madden.

Also i have heard this will be the shortest GTA yet. Since they chose to go multiplatform, they can only fit enough data to go on a DVD...not bluray. So i was under the impression they chose to sacrifice graphics for length. But it seems like both will lack while still fitting on only a DVD meanwhile still costing you $60 for no apparent reason.

I got sick of playing GTA towards the end of vice city, beginning of san andreas. You can only play the same type of game for so long, thats why i stopped playing shooters too. I would rather wait for them to make a new innovative game much like when GTA3 first came out or Halo. I want to play something new. But i guess as long as people keep paying $60 for the same crap, a lot of developers won't have to make anything new.

resistance93

Please tell me you are kidding calling R* "lazy"? Their attention to detail is incredible past most other developers. Just look at the comparison shots from Liberty City Landmarks and their New York City counterparts.

The tone down in graphics in all GTA games is most likely due the MASSIVE amount of things going on at any given time. This isn't a linear game at all like all of the great games graphics wise that you're going to mention. Also, it's always been R*'s style to make the game real, but not too real. So I wouldn't be surprised if having the characters look a little funny was actually the direction they took.

Then again, I completely disagree all you graphics fans who won't buy a game because a few textures aren't up to snuff. It's all about gameplay to me. If the graphics are good enough that they don't distract me from the gameplay objective, then I'm thrilled.

What game play... just mindless driving and killing poeple. That's all my American friends do with this game, and even they commented that this game is about mindless fun. Thank you, I can't enjoy mindless "fun" gameplay.

If the game has a great graphics, which makes the environment and characters a lot more believable, then I might endure the mindless gameplay and just play the game to see New York city. But well, I guess that hope is now out of window.

if it is really about gameplay as you say it is, whats the point of going next gen? why did i spend $600 on a new ps3? why don't they just make it for ps2 then, heck why don't they just make it for ps1 and save us some money..it would be 39.99 right, gimmie a break.

You must be joking. Just because a dev wants to focus more on gameplay rather than graphics, it means they should charge less for it and put it on less powerful hardware? Remember, better hardware doesn't always mean better graphics. Things like physics, AI, and the amount of things happening at once on screen can be increased, thus making it a better game compared to the last gen predecessors. And remember, just because Rockstar chooses to focus on gameplay doesn't mean they have to scrap graphics for good. Have you seen the character models for the game? They look awesome!

But the AI is not improved at all. More happening on the screen? Maybe. But if they lower the graphics further, they can make these much things happening on a PS2.

All the TC and I'm saying is that, this game's graphics really doesn't look good. The character models sucks big time comparing to many many many other games out there.

Now since you love GTA so much, wouldn't you love it MORE if the graphisc looks 3 times better than it is now? You would!

Now those of us who don't care about the gameplay in this game that much, if the graphics looks 3 times better, wouldn't we like the game a bit more? We would too!

So, what's your problem about us wanting a better graphics in this game? Having a better graphics on this game would make everyone like the game a bit more? Why is it a BAD thing?

Your whining isn't gonna make the graphics better

and your ignorant denial in demanding better things wouldn't make gaming as a whole better for everyone. it's poeple like you made developers realizing that they can get by for being lazy.

this is an open world game, they can only push the graphics so much, and they have all of these gameplay elements within the game, so cut them some slack jeez the game's gonna be great, people dont bye GTA for its graphicslionelb22

One world for you, Oblivion. Bigger game world, better graphics, more or equal quests...

they say that gta might be delayed because of EA

http://ps3.qj.net/michael-pachter-electronic-arts-could-delay-grand-theft-auto-4-s-release-date/pg/aid/117606

[Quote="solaris1979"]

Have you seen the trailer yet? I think so.

kalkhaja

I don't understand why you people even play games at all if all you care about is the graphics. Go watch a movie or start looking at art paintings if thats what would truly satisfy you guys. Games should be gameplay as priority and graphics being bonus, these days it seems like its all the other way around. No wonder most people suck at playing games.

I don't understand why you people even play games at all if all you care about is the graphics. Go watch a movie or start looking at art paintings if thats what would truly satisfy you guys. Games should be gameplay as priority and graphics being bonus, these days it seems like its all the other way around. No wonder most people suck at playing games.

PSdual_wielder

Because we care about gameplay, story AND graphics. Is that so hard for you to understand? lol... no wonder most poeple like you would prevent games achieving better status becuase you guys are sooo easy to please.

The REAL new gen game should be about three things: 1. Structure 2. AI (when applicable) 3. Graphics. If you strip away graphics, and put up a game with the old structure and AI, you get an old gen game. What's the point of buying a new gen machine then?

Oh man .. some people here and pathetic .. All video games, and all generations have been about gameplay, it's their life blood

I play for gameplay (MGS, GTA, COD4, SKATE) .. you want graphics go play Uncharted, game is amazing .. you want to play an open world graphics whore .. go play Assassins Creed .. oh wait AC's gameplay is rubbish and terrible ..

Video Games, are, well for Gameplay .. What GTA offers us in gameplay NO other game can, go belly ache somewhere else children ..

[QUOTE="justifythegame"]

Basically the developers are lazy. They have always been lazy when it comes to graphics. If you played the ps2 gta games, the graphics look like ps1 graphics. So i would expect the ps3 version to have like ps2 graphics. Why would they care? They are going to sell a ton even if its great graphics or not, all you have to do it put the name GTA on it and ppl will come running. Kind of like Madden.

Also i have heard this will be the shortest GTA yet. Since they chose to go multiplatform, they can only fit enough data to go on a DVD...not bluray. So i was under the impression they chose to sacrifice graphics for length. But it seems like both will lack while still fitting on only a DVD meanwhile still costing you $60 for no apparent reason.

I got sick of playing GTA towards the end of vice city, beginning of san andreas. You can only play the same type of game for so long, thats why i stopped playing shooters too. I would rather wait for them to make a new innovative game much like when GTA3 first came out or Halo. I want to play something new. But i guess as long as people keep paying $60 for the same crap, a lot of developers won't have to make anything new.

The_Rick_14

Please tell me you are kidding calling R* "lazy"? Their attention to detail is incredible past most other developers. Just look at the comparison shots from Liberty City Landmarks and their New York City counterparts.

The tone down in graphics in all GTA games is most likely due the MASSIVE amount of things going on at any given time. This isn't a linear game at all like all of the great games graphics wise that you're going to mention. Also, it's always been R*'s style to make the game real, but not too real. So I wouldn't be surprised if having the characters look a little funny was actually the direction they took.

Then again, I completely disagree all you graphics fans who won't buy a game because a few textures aren't up to snuff. It's all about gameplay to me. If the graphics are good enough that they don't distract me from the gameplay objective, then I'm thrilled.

i understand your point, but when you pay 400-500$ for a console, then they charge 60$ for a game (and even 50$ per contoller) you expect some level of quality on all areas, not just gameplay. I'm going to check it out with gamefly before i actually buy it, as I was pretty let down with Dark Sector and won't buy a game based on what I think it's going ever again, especially when it costs 60$.

[QUOTE="lionelb22"]this is an open world game, they can only push the graphics so much, and they have all of these gameplay elements within the game, so cut them some slack jeez the game's gonna be great, people dont bye GTA for its graphicshenry4th

One world for you, Oblivion. Bigger game world, better graphics, more or equal quests...

oblivion was a massive joke and paled in comparison to morrowind. Also, you're for getting that oblivion didn't even feature euphoria, probably don't even have a clue what that is do you??? Oblivio0n might have been fun, if you enjoy looking at the same 4 environments throughout the entire map. POssibly it could be you enjoy the fact that NPCs wonder around aimlessly with no real goal in mind. Mentioning the fact that, if you would have actually read one of the developers interviews, they use a different texture for practically EVERYTHING in the game isn't enough for you, maybe you should just GTFO and leave everyone else alone.

[QUOTE="lionelb22"]this is an open world game, they can only push the graphics so much, and they have all of these gameplay elements within the game, so cut them some slack jeez the game's gonna be great, people dont bye GTA for its graphicshenry4th

One world for you, Oblivion. Bigger game world, better graphics, more or equal quests...

oblivion was a massive joke and paled in comparison to morrowind. Also, you're forgetting that oblivion didn't even feature euphoria, probably don't even have a clue what that is do you??? Oblivion might have been fun, if you enjoy looking at the same 4 environments throughout the entire map. Possibly it could be you enjoy the fact that NPCs wonder around aimlessly with no real goal in mind. Mentioning the fact that, if you would have actually read one of the developers interviews, they use a different texture for practically EVERYTHING in GTAIV isn't enough for you, maybe you should just GTFO and leave everyone else alone.