Haters Gonna Hate: Why the New 'Devil May Cry' will Kick Major Ass

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#1 hazelnutman
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After watching the new DMC trailer, I was in a bit of shock. This was Devil May Cry? Really? Dante looked... different.

I was especially confused by two things:

  1. Game journalists reporting that the game featured Dante as a youngster
  2. Trailers and whatnot touting the game as a "rebirth"

With that, I just assumed that this was a prequel to the entire DMC sega with Dante as a kid (you can hear something about a Juvie facility in the trailer) and the universe was still pretty much the same. So yeah, this "rebirth" will probably come in the gameplay and the fact that it's being made by Ninja Theory (developers of Heavenly Sword) as opposed to Capcom's internal team. But hey - who knows at this point?

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So anyways, I watched it again. And again. And again. And again. Maybe you should too, because it really let me see this game for what it was going to be: a cocky, fun-filled, adrenaline-pumping slaughter-fest in true Devil May Cry fashion.

I'm looking at the comments here, and all I see in the form of legitimate complaints are the new character designs. However, this is an aesthetic face-lift. Yes, you have the right to be all fired up and start angry mobs at the reveal of Dante's new AESTHETIC qualities. However, dismissing this game as a non-DMC game and even going as far as to assume it will blow chunks over something silly as how the polygons are arranged is something I don't think is in the true spirit of gaming. In case you forgot what that was, it was to have fun. Remember?

Now let's look at all of the awesome you can observe in the trailer:

  • Everything in there was run on the engine itself. That's right - they're all real-time cutscenes.
  • Ridiculousness in combat remains, with hideously awesome new demons being subject to Dante's brutality.
  • A sword which can turn into a chain thing that throws cars. Hells yeah, mother****er.
  • More variation in combat styIes, hinting at possibly more styIes than the traditional four.
  • Awesome music.

So assuming you've read this far, let's try doing this:

Considering everything and putting aside your blinding rage at something new and different, watch the trailer once more here.

Go on - watch it once more, because I can guarantee that unless you're completely ignorant of reason or just hate hack-and-slash games, you'll find something to love in there if you give it a chance.

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And with that, I ask you all: are you remotely excited for the new Devil May Cry?

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#2 ExoticAnimal
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Truth be told, I am not excited as I've never really liked the DMC games. I prefer Legacy of Kain series but thats a whole different series.

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#3 spookykid143
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I am not happy but i will wait for more info before i cast a final judgement.

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#4 hazelnutman
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Truth be told, I am not excited as I've never really liked the DMC games. I prefer Legacy of Kain series but thats a whole different series.

ExoticAnimal
I prefer Ace Combat, but that's a whole different series. But we're talking about Devil May Cry in this thread, so that doesn't really matter! ;D
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#5 ArchoNils2
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I love the series and I'll get it day 1, but that aside, I hate the new design. Dante in his old form looks great, this guy looks like an ordinary action hero

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#6 ExoticAnimal
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[QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

Truth be told, I am not excited as I've never really liked the DMC games. I prefer Legacy of Kain series but thats a whole different series.

hazelnutman

I prefer Ace Combat, but that's a whole different series. But we're talking about Devil May Cry in this thread, so that doesn't really matter! ;D

Well, for my demon game, I prefer the Legacy of Kain series. :P By the way, find some other video as the ones you posted from youtube got removed.

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#7 hazelnutman
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

Truth be told, I am not excited as I've never really liked the DMC games. I prefer Legacy of Kain series but thats a whole different series.

ExoticAnimal

I prefer Ace Combat, but that's a whole different series. But we're talking about Devil May Cry in this thread, so that doesn't really matter! ;D

Well, for my demon game, I prefer the Legacy of Kain series. :P By the way, find some other video as the ones you posted from youtube got removed.

That's weird, because it still works perfectly for me. I'll swap out the links just to be safe though.
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#8 ExoticAnimal
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[QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

[QUOTE="hazelnutman"] I prefer Ace Combat, but that's a whole different series. But we're talking about Devil May Cry in this thread, so that doesn't really matter! ;Dhazelnutman

Well, for my demon game, I prefer the Legacy of Kain series. :P By the way, find some other video as the ones you posted from youtube got removed.

That's weird, because it still works perfectly for me. I'll swap out the links just to be safe though.

Never mind, its working now. I swear that when I clicked on it, it said video was removed.

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#9 hazelnutman
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"][QUOTE="ExoticAnimal"]

Well, for my demon game, I prefer the Legacy of Kain series. :P By the way, find some other video as the ones you posted from youtube got removed.

ExoticAnimal

That's weird, because it still works perfectly for me. I'll swap out the links just to be safe though.

Never mind, its working now. I swear that when I clicked on it, it said video was removed.

This is the part where we start to rationally conclude that your internet connection is being haunted by a demon.
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#10 conistant
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The old Dante looked way better.He was the face of the series but with this new Edward cullen emo guy it will never feel the same.The game might end up being good but for me the DMC series is dead now.
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#12 josh494
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I thought th e trailer looked awesome. People can't take change though
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#14 supa_badman
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Also to happen is the next Infamous Cole problem.

First time announced, ' EWWW, he looks ugly.'

Capcom decides to fix him up, 'HE STILL LOOKS UGLY.'

Again, 'WHAT THE HELL CAPCOM I LIKED 2ND DANTE WAY BETTER! Damn developers, not listening to their fans...'

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#15 indongga
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you have no idea how much im lookin forward to this, a bunch of people are saying that they made a mistake but i say whatever we cant do anything about it so im expecting a great game. especially made by ninja theory im sure the story will be a little bit less cheesier than what the original series was. and so what they're rebooting it they wanna try something NEW, and we all want something new. that aside i like the new dante model, i would think of him as a rock rebel when he's a teen and look, thats what he is. and who knows? maybe he dyes his hair in the middle of the game or at the end.
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#16 bigboss1203
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Of course! I love the DMC series! Yeah IM a bit dissapointed that Dante looks drastically different than the previous games, but Ill get used to it, it looks really fun!

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#17 Eman5805
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The old Dante looked way better.He was the face of the series but with this new Edward cullen emo guy it will never feel the same.The game might end up being good but for me the DMC series is dead now.conistant
Then the series died the moment the creator's hands no longer touched it. Nothing CAPCOM could've done would've appeased you in that case.
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#18 Vexx88
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It's ok guys, Hazel is just sleepy he doesn't know what he posted. :P
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#19 Prince-Noctis
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Long live Devil May Cry and it's rebirth!!!!!

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#20 Prince-Noctis
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Also jus wondering does anyone know what song it is in the trailer? sounds kinda like The Dead Weather I like it

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#21 koospetoors
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I've been thinking about this reboot lately and I guess that only time will tell, maybe the character will be quite good, maybe the gameplay will be awesome and on par with Bayonetta. I guess we will just have to wait and see how things end up. But still, its not like Capcom completely threw the old franchise out of the window, there's still a possibility for a real Devil May Cry 5.
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#22 elbert_b_23
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i am not excited 2 reasons 1. i am not a huge dmc fan besides the first game the series is more a meh for me. 2. i seen companies do this a not in the past feel like old characters are getting old or outdated for current gamers but they want to keep making money off the series instead making anew one so they give the game a make over change the character model and story and the gameplay a little and it ends up a bust because the fans don't want that. intel reviews and stuff o the game i hold my hype to a mehish
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#23 Gue1
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it looks crap. No matter how I try to see it this new Dante's not cool at all. He looks like a drug addict that got kicked out from the Twilight's cast...

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I'm one of the many that dislike the new Dante look. But I never commented about the potential greatness it could bring as far as gameplay is concerned. Its too early to tell in that respect. But what gets me the most is that Capcom and NT made that look specifically for the Western audience. I find that insulting, becauseno one with a rational mindset actually likes the "Chris Crocker on acid, Edward Cullen is mad, emo" look. Dante is one of gaming's most badass and funniest characters, and they made him into something only 13 year old Twilight fans could like. Perhaps that sillyness caught on in Japan, I dunno. :P Aside from the DMC gameplay, the character Dante portraited was the other reason I enjoyed the series. It just feels like that character might be dead now. And I firmly believe that this is why so many people are upset with the new Dante. I'm all for change, but make it the right change. The new trailer simply did not feel like DMC.

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#25 Texas2089
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Of course I'm excited since I love the DMC series, but I am a bit worried that the game is going to play too close to Heavenly Sword, and not so much like the other games in the series. Not a fan of the new look but I don't really care how he looks as long as the game plays like the other games in the series.
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#26 RoOodriGowW
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That's not Dante , I don't care how good the game will be...I mean I'll buy it , but that's not devil may cry.

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#27 Skull-Fire
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Why would you be confused by game journalists reporting that the game featured Dante as a youngster?
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#28 Young_Charter
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IT's ok guys... This is just one of those moments where Ninja Theory pulls an Infamous (I hope it get it) and then they end up getting complaints and changes him for the better :)
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#29 Chris_Williams
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i just don't understand why do you need to reboot devil may cry, i mean i heard thats its a prequel that this is dante when he was a teen and if it is i buy that and i can see this being interesting. But if this is a reboot of it, then why in the world are they doing this?

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#30 istuffedsunny
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TLDR. Have you played Heavenly Sword? I don't think much else needs to be said.

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#31 San_09
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Whatever.

RIP DMC

RIP Dante

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ckzmUwN43o

I'm sorry but

DMC= NOT DMC

Hoo boy, TGS is really disappointing. Thank you From Software....

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#32 Young_Charter
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Whatever.

RIP DMC

RIP Dante

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ckzmUwN43o

I'm sorry but

DMC= NOT DMC

Hoo boy, TGS is really disappointing. Thank you From Software....

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DMC= Don't Mak-e Cry :) lol
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#33 Guaracy-
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I love the series and I'll get it day 1, but that aside, I hate the new design. Dante in his old form looks great, this guy looks like an ordinary action hero

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Me too. Been a fan since I heard about DMC, but never got the first one. Did get the 2nd one though, and every version after that. Played and replayed them all. 3 is my favorite. But one of my favorite action-adventure games in terms of sheer combat and gameplay is Heavenly Sword. I've also had a chance to play Enslaved and it, like HS, is amazing. Ninja Theory is one of my favorite developers. So mix my favorite action/adventure (mostly focused on melee combat, like God of War, not like Uncharted or RDR) franchise with one of my favorite action/adventure developers and you have a dream come true. Seems like they at least stayed true to the character's nature and are at least making him wise-cracking. I hate, HATE the fact that he looks like Chris Crocker now, though. It's so sad. But his voice is pretty manly though. I hope they keep that voice actor.
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#34 Guaracy-
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Also to happen is the next Infamous Cole problem.

First time announced, ' EWWW, he looks ugly.'

Capcom decides to fix him up, 'HE STILL LOOKS UGLY.'

Again, 'WHAT THE HELL CAPCOM I LIKED 2ND DANTE WAY BETTER! Damn developers, not listening to their fans...'

supa_badman
What? New Old Cole looks way better. Looks like a crackhead junkie, but at least not like a 19 year old frat boy.
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#35 dantesergei
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]

Now let's look at all of the awesome you can observe in the trailer:

  • Everything in there was run on the engine itself. That's right - they're all real-time cutscenes.
  • Ridiculousness in combat remains, with hideously awesome new demons being subject to Dante's brutality.
  • A sword which can turn into a chain thing that throws cars. Hells yeah, mother****er.
  • More variation in combat styIes, hinting at possibly more styIes than the traditional four.
  • Awesome music.

Slashkice

  • Devil May Cry 4 looks better, and it's two-years-old. Based on Ninja Theory's previous efforts, it'll probably run better too.
  • I don't see the ridiculousness - it's very tame, not to mention slower, than normal
  • It didn't work out very well in Heavenly Sword, I'm not convinced Ninja Theory will fare any better with the concept here
  • Possible, but I'd rather have a few that work extremely well, rather than a lot of average styIes. Ninja Theory hasn't even shown they can do the former.
  • I didn't like the music, but I'll admit it's up to taste.

My problems with DmC go beyond simple hate for Dante's atrocious new look. I've watched the trailer several times now, I've yet to see something that says it's anything but a disgrace to the franchise.

Same here.
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#36 BoxingTheStars
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Thank you TC for saying what really needed to be said I've had the same feelings towards it as you do and I'm glad you put it into a thread

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#37 WR_Platinum
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Sounds more like a desperate attempt to have more people on your side OP. If you took that approach, then for the next sequels of every KNOWN established franchises (like God Of War, Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda, and Uncharted to name a few) should come in with new drastic character designs for the protagonist and we'll just not pay much mind to it because the game will be 'fun'.

So Mario's next design would probably look like a skinny italian electrician, Link would look like a knight in shining gold armor, Kratos may look like a Japanese samurai with long hair on his head, and Drake would look like Cole from Infamous 1. We wouldn't mind that right?:roll:

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#38 johny300
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The visuals looks very impressive but still im not pleased with the new dante, even though i hate him im still a huge DMC fan and i still want the old arrogant tough dante back.
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#39 anime_gamer007
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I would have been MUCH happier if they just scrapped the name Dante for this new guy. He's doesn't remotely look like Dante. At first, I was with it because I thought they were just gonna have a new character which is more appropriate for a "reboot" in my opinion but calling him Dante was just stupid. I am excited for a new DMC game and it does seem to have some of the style that made DMC so awesome but it's a little too street punk/emo for me.

I am still very interesting in how this game ends up, maybe it helps that I'm not a huge fan of DMC but I can imagine the real hardcore fans are pissed at this new "Dante".

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#40 Yazu13
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Hazel..........I am disappoint.

The new Dante will prevent me from getting this game. Even if it rocks and everyone is proved wrong, I refuse to play as this Twilight reject (To be rejected from Twilight is double harsh) and I refuse to buy this game if his character design doesn't change. Call me close-minded, but how dare they label this game "Devil May Cry" and substitute one of my favorite characters in gaming for this chain-smoking punk with daddy issues. Capcom can go **** itself.

EDIT - I watched the trailer again (twice) and I'm still pissed. I'm mad at Capcom, but I'm also disappointed. We can't let these developers think this is okay. There has to be justice in the world.

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#41 johny300
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Please check the link it might change youre opinions a little about the new DMC:P. the gameplay will be good but im not yet agrreing with the new dante look. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1121258p1.html
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#42 verbalfilth
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For some reason, I don't believe this Dante is supposed to represent the old Dante we know. He's everything he's not supposed to be and I doubt Capcom/Ninja Theory would purposely revamp him to this extreme knowing full well the backlash they would receive for it. My theory is that they did this simply to get people talking. Perhaps when more is fleshed out about the game, this Dante will most likely be someone in the DMC universe that's important to " red coat wearing, white haired Dante's" past. It would be a shame to dismiss this game this early.... but I have to agree, the character design is horrid...I don't want to play as Justin Bieber meets Twiggy.
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#43 LURCH87
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I can guarantee that unless you're completely ignorant of reason or just hate hack-and-slash games, you'll find something to love in there if you give it a chance.

hazelnutman

why don't you wait until we see some actual gameplay footage before you start calling people ignorant. sorry if some people are not feeling emo looking dante. i thought that was what nero was for. plus the fact that ninja theory is behind this is even worse since heavenly sword was average at best.

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#44 bussinrounds
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Ugh, these games are the definition of mindless button mashers. Well, mabye that award should go to Dynasty Warriors instead.
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#45 anime_gamer007
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Ugh, these games are the definition of mindless button mashers. Well, mabye that award should go to Dynasty Warriors instead.bussinrounds
Umm.........riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight:roll:

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#46 1bigsmoke55
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I'll stick to DmC3. :)

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#47 jman1553
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Devil May Cry was never good. This game will be even worse.
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#48 Guaracy-
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Devil May Cry was never good. This game will be even worse.jman1553
If DMC was never good, I wonder what God of War was.
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#49 jman1553
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[QUOTE="jman1553"]Devil May Cry was never good. This game will be even worse.Guaracy-
If DMC was never good, I wonder what God of War was.

Chill out, only joking. I suppose I should have put the :P emoticon there. My bad.
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#50 Guaracy-
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[QUOTE="Guaracy-"][QUOTE="jman1553"]Devil May Cry was never good. This game will be even worse.jman1553
If DMC was never good, I wonder what God of War was.

Chill out, only joking. I suppose I should have put the :P emoticon there. My bad.

o_O impossible to notice that was a joke... Anyway, I always thought DMC was better than GoW. So much more variety, and weapons and everything. But nothing beats GoW 3's blood. Man, that engine is incredible.