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#1 rptransam09
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Sorry if this has been answered, but I tried searching, for what it's worth.

So I'm looking at a Toshiba Regza 26LV67 and on Toshiba's site, I found the spec sheet and under these two subjects this is what it said

Under the Video Category:

Display Resolution: 720p [1366x768]

Under the Termials Category:

HDMI Input Support: 1080p 60/30/24Hz

So is this TV a 720p HDTV or 1080p?

I guess knowing this would be helpful as well -Do certain types of games run on 720p and others 1080p, or are there just a lot of 720p games right now because they are still early in developing for PS3 and its HD resolution?

Thanks!

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#2 KurupSoldr
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if under the displays its not showing 1080p i would guess it doesnt but hdmi will support 1080p only if your tv does so its quite confusing should post a link
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#3 rptransam09
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well, the site has a flash interface that takes a couple minutes to load, but I'll see if i can find a better link that loads faster..
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#4 ngoniko
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is this the TV you want?

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-and-plasma/toshiba-regza-26lv67-lcdvd/4507-6482_7-32306260.html?tag=sub

if so it does support 1080p, but for that size 1080p is not necessary.

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http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/models/26LV67/docs/26LV67_spec.pdf

hope it works...

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#6 rptransam09
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yeah that's the one.. well then what size does 1080p become "necessary"

(quotes not used to mock you, but because necessary is a relative term)

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#7 ngoniko
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yeah that's the one.. well then what size does 1080p become "necessary"

(quotes not used to mock you, but because necessary is a relative term)

rptransam09

I'd say 40" +

wait let me find a link

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#8 954LatinoThug
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some people say 50 and over but i would go with 40' and over because already then i can see the difference
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#9 ngoniko
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so if you want a small TV 1080p is not necessary, but if you want a big TV 1080p is needed
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But say I got a TV that didn't have 1080p, but rather 1080i or 720p. Would a game that featured 1080p downscale to the TV's highest supported quality or down to 480?
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#11 matt_r2009
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It goes down to the highest supported resolution
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#12 matt_r2009
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I believe thats the case though. I have a 1080p t.v. so i don't have to worry about it.
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#13 ngoniko
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But say I got a TV that didn't have 1080p, but rather 1080i or 720p. Would a game that featured 1080p downscale to the TV's highest supported quality or down to 480?rptransam09

game with 1080p will go to 1080i

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#14 KurupSoldr
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yah my tv only goes to 1080i and i think thats just fine i bought my tv about a year and a half ago and games look awesome until the norm starts to be 1080p i will keep what i have and by that time they will be much cheaper and probably a lot better too
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#15 TimothyB
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Sorry if this has been answered, but I tried searching, for what it's worth.

So I'm looking at a Toshiba Regza 26LV67 and on Toshiba's site, I found the spec sheet and under these two subjects this is what it said

Under the Video Category:

Display Resolution: 720p [1366x768]

Under the Termials Category:

HDMI Input Support: 1080p 60/30/24Hz

So is this TV a 720p HDTV or 1080p?

I guess knowing this would be helpful as well -Do certain types of games run on 720p and others 1080p, or are there just a lot of 720p games right now because they are still early in developing for PS3 and its HD resolution?

Thanks!

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The exact resolution of the screen is 1366*768, or 768p to be exact comparison to 720p. Anything you give the tv, 720p, 1080i, 1080p will all be converted to 768p. So that means it's not a 1080p tv, it's not a 1080i tv, but a 768p tv.

Many other people also confuse a tv like this with being a 1080i tv the same way you were wonder if this was a 1080p because the input happens to support 1080i or 1080p. And that's thing, there's a difference between input support and what is actually display on the screen. So it's very confusing as there's always someone saying their 32inch LCD is 1080i when there is no such thing, it's really 720p or 768p and they mix up support for 1080i as being 1080i. Like the person above saying their tv goes only to 1080i. What exactly does that mean? Unless he has a CRT tv it's not 1080i, and a tv only does one or the other,it's a 720p tv or a 1080i tv, not both.

The only 1080i tvs are CRT, those old tube tvs and bulky rear projection CRTs. And a 1080p screen requires a resolution of 1920*1080.

Now, if that tv supports 1080p and converts it down to 768p, then picking 1080p could result in better picture. What do I mean. Say a 1080p game you have doesn't have AA, the thing that smooths jaggies. So choosing 720p in the console will render at that and have jaggies. But if you pick 1080p, the downscaling to 768p may create it's own AA for a jaggie free image. Don't ever let a game run in 1080i mode, first, that would limit you to 30fps, then you might be seeing as little as 540p during fast motion because of the deinterlacing methods with 1080i.

What's your budget?

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#16 rptransam09
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my budget?

it's kind of flexible.. up to $1100 max, i'd say.. and if there's a good deal around $400, then tell me, because I might be able to get one used on craigslist or eBay. (i will make sure its good before buying from there, don't worry.)

btw, quick reply makes letters skip.. i i try to typ a real sentence, this is what it comsou s.

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#17 rptransam09
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bump.. man this board goes by so fast.
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#18 Gzus666
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how big do you want to go? if you want a nice small TV, dont go smaller than 32", you will be mad if you do, and then just get a 720P, no reason to go bigger, cause you wont see the difference. if you want to go 42"+, then go ahead and go 1080P

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889179004

there is a great deal, nice TV

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=264&name=Plasma-LCD-DLP-TV

go through the list, lots of great deals

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#19 TimothyB
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my budget?

it's kind of flexible.. up to $1100 max, i'd say.. and if there's a good deal around $400, then tell me, because I might be able to get one used on craigslist or eBay. (i will make sure its good before buying from there, don't worry.)

btw, quick reply makes letters skip.. i i try to typ a real sentence, this is what it comsou s.

rptransam09

$400 for any HDTV is the bottom of the barrel. 26inch or so LCD tvs never go on sale and cost about the same price of a 32inch LCD on sale (a cheap one for like $500-600). Then there are cheap 37-42inchs, but would you rather pay more for a quality 32inch?

Here's a 32inch Regza Toshiba 32hl167 for $774, free shipping, no tax for most people, even california:
http://www.onecall.com/LandingPage.aspx?lpID=331

That's their weekend sale price, it will go up Monday. I've bought 2 tvs from then, a 55inch Sony 2 years ago, and then a 65inch Toshiba just last month, then a few other things like receivers and power centers. Don't trust them yet? Take a look at their rating http://www.resellerratings.com/store/OneCall

That tv model seems to do well from this glimpse of use opinions:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-and-plasma/toshiba-regza-32hl67-lcd/4852-6482_7-32306257.html?tag=uoavrg

It's cheap as $810 before tax at circuit city if you get a 10% coupon

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#20 rptransam09
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wow, so sorry to waste your time searching for those tvs..

i meant to type 1400, but i guess $1100 is pretty much the maxwhen it's "usually" a $1400 tv. not $400. thanks for the good sites, though! I'll be searching them until (if?) you reply with more ideas.

Thanks for being such a great help.

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#21 TimothyB
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I won't be able to look anything up more tonight, but OneCall has the 42inch version of that Toshiba for $1150 shipped, no tax in all but 3 states.

Another couple places to look at are Vanns.com, Crutchfield.com, Beachcamera.com. They might not have the cheapest prices, but they are some of the best rated sites like how I showed with OneCall at reselleratings. Also keep in mind with Vanns prices you do get a free $130+ Harmony remote with a purchase of most tvs.

It was hard to find anything in the price range with LCD over 42inches because just about all those were then 1080p, so a considerable price jump. So anyting bigger might be soemthing like Sony LCD Rear projections between 50-55inches in your budget or some DLPs like the Toshiba 50hm67 for $1150 at OneCall. A little more at $1500 there's the Toshiba 1080p 57inch 57hm167 at OneCall (on-order). But with any rear projection, you really have to consider a extended warranty with them, it's just a given, even if you never buy warranties with anything else. So that adds another $250 on average for 4-5 years, but itf it covers bulb replacement then it could pay for itself. And that's another thing, with bulbs, you have to replace them. Though, 6 hours a day would take 3.65 years to burn out a bulb with 8000 hour life.