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#1 Maverick128
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Check out his newest post on his website.

Paramount Pisses me off

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"I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!

Bay"

OMGWTFBBQ!!! No Transformers 2 from him!!

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#2 thepeh
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Thats awsome!
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#3 Chutebox
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Good, **** those sell outs.
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#4 brainscientist
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WOW!!!
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#5 ShmenonPie
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Who is he, the director or something? Anyway, I'm glad he's speaking up about this stupid business, perhaps Paramount might change their mind, but it's quite obvious they're being bribed by M$ IMO...
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#6 lusitanogamer
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lol Gotta love Michael Bay.:D
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#7 rogerjak
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oh no! No Transformers 2 for him!?? COME ON! I loved the 1st one:cry:
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#8 feryl06
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There are other directors out there too---granted he did a good job with the movie.
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#9 gamegod
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im sure he is just venting right now and this will pass.with this stupid format war going on things like this are inevitable.
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#10 Dagnelli
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BAD link....
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#11 Maverick128
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BAD link....Dagnelli

Just tried it and it still works for me.

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#12 The_Tombo
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Micheal do a Bay attack!

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#13 xxjeran123xx
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Hopefully Bay will be able to get them put Transformers on Blu-Ray... that way we can get Transformers 2 :D
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#14 rogerjak
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There are other directors out there too---granted he did a good job with the movie.feryl06
There are another directors, BUT since Bay is already familiarized with Transformers, it would make sense to continue.
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Awsome!
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#16 The_Rick_14
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[QUOTE="feryl06"]There are other directors out there too---granted he did a good job with the movie.rogerjak
There are another directors, BUT since Bay is already familiarized with Transformers, it would make sense to continue.

Yea I don't know if these were Bay's ideas or the writers but there were a lot of quirks that true Transformers fans would recognize.

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#17 The_Rick_14
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Also, Bay is that pissed then he shouldn't have been lazy and he should have done what Spielberg did and get a clause in that agreement that say movies directed by him go on both.
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#18 muppet1010
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Also, Bay is that pissed then he shouldn't have been lazy and he should have done what Spielberg did and get a clause in that agreement that say movies directed by him go on both.The_Rick_14

yeah he should have done something along these lines... but i guess its toolate now.

It'll be interesting to see if paramount go back on this decision or if they stand by it. Whatever happens this sure is a sledgehammer blow for Blu-ray....

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#19 Maverick128
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Also, Bay is that pissed then he shouldn't have been lazy and he should have done what Spielberg did and get a clause in that agreement that say movies directed by him go on both.The_Rick_14

From the way he worded his post, it almost sounds like he didn't know about it until we did. If that were the case, how COULD he sign some kind of exclusion?

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Who Cares?
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#21 Jamie_1987
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didn't he make Bad Boys 2.....
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I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.
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#23 Solid_Max13
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I'm sure Bay will probably get it on Bluray at soem point this year. Granted the money he brang in for the 1st one and if he holds the rights to the movies and sequels i'm sure Paramount will be begging him to do it.
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I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.G-Legend

MS paid for nothing...

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I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.G-Legend

well it has been proven the were payed $150 mill to go exclusive, most industry analysts in hollywood are eqully as mystified

as for Bay as far as sequels go, most often than not, if a different director takes over for the second film, most of the time its a big disappointment compared to the first

I really do hope with him and speilberg who produced the film still favor blu ray over HD dvd (Bay being more vocal about it) that they find a way to negotiate paramount to put it on blu ray.

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#26 cf2012
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I dont blame him. The first thing on my mind when I read the paramount thing was that Transformers will not be on blue ray. What kind of garbage is that?
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"]I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.c0mplex

MS paid for nothing...

you keep thinking that...:roll:

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[QUOTE="c0mplex"]

[QUOTE="G-Legend"]I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.G-Legend

MS paid for nothing...

you keep thinking that...:roll:

the HD DVD Promotional Group does not have MS as any chair/primary position company, nor is it a managing member.

but hey... i'm sure your fanboy brain can concoct some proof that MS did pay for that exclusivity deal... even though MS's position in the HD DVD Promotional Group is no higher than Paramounts. :)

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Throwing all my Paramount DVDs away because they $#$#$#$ disgust me .$#$#$# Paramount!
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#30 c0mplex
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Throwing all my Paramount DVDs away because they $#$#$#$ disgust me .$#$#$# Paramount! unimpendium115

burn them and take a picture of it.

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[QUOTE="unimpendium115"]Throwing all my Paramount DVDs away because they $#$#$#$ disgust me .$#$#$# Paramount! c0mplex

burn them and take a picture of it.

We should all do that.
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#32 jimm895
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I wonder how many directors are upset with this move from Paramount. This may cause some of these directors and producers to go to other studios like Fox, Disney, Tri-Star, and Sony. This could in a short time ruin Paramount and open the door for another studio to bail them out thus gaining a controlling stock in the studio. Think about this the parent company of Fox Newshas already or just about to buy out the Wall Street Journel for a few billion dollars.
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="c0mplex"]

[QUOTE="G-Legend"]I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.c0mplex

MS paid for nothing...

you keep thinking that...:roll:

the HD DVD Promotional Group does not have MS as any chair/primary position company, nor is it a managing member.

but hey... i'm sure your fanboy brain can concoct some proof that MS did pay for that exclusivity deal... even though MS's position in the HD DVD Promotional Group is no higher than Paramounts. :)

Duh, is very obvious that they do it for $$$. Which company is so stupid to jump ship when blu-ray is already outselling HD-DVD?

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[QUOTE="G-Legend"][QUOTE="c0mplex"]

[QUOTE="G-Legend"]I think it's pretty obvious Paramount got money to do this HD-DVD exclusive thing. Seriously who in their right minds would change to a losing format by a 2-1 ratio? It just doesn't make any sense possible. Money was probably involved and everyone knows *cough* M$ *cough* does this all the time put 2 and 2 together you get 4 and this reasoning....it just makes sense.c0mplex

MS paid for nothing...

you keep thinking that...:roll:

the HD DVD Promotional Group does not have MS as any chair/primary position company, nor is it a managing member.

but hey... i'm sure your fanboy brain can concoct some proof that MS did pay for that exclusivity deal... even though MS's position in the HD DVD Promotional Group is no higher than Paramounts. :)

although there is no proof MS paid for anything, they do have vested interest in seeing the format succeed, this coupled with the drop in the price of the add-on, and slight drop in price of the 360, and only a blind person would say MS didnt have a hand in or have knowledge of this. MS gets money from hd dvd cus they are contracted for the system it uses, kind of like an OS, for the interactive features and whatnot while blu ray went with java.

[QUOTE="The_Rick_14"]Also, Bay is that pissed then he shouldn't have been lazy and he should have done what Spielberg did and get a clause in that agreement that say movies directed by him go on both.muppet1010

yeah he should have done something along these lines... but i guess its toolate now.

It'll be interesting to see if paramount go back on this decision or if they stand by it. Whatever happens this sure is a sledgehammer blow for Blu-ray....

blockbuster is a sledgehammer blow to hd dvd, this is not as it not only does not include steven spielberg movies which is their main property but their other big director/producer bay doesnt seem to be very happy. as long as disney and sony stick with blu ray, which they always will cus they are invested in the format heavily, they will be fine cus sony is the #1 movie studio on the planet since breaking records in 06 and disney, well they are a proven money maker. its a good thing most other studios back blu ray as well too though, and universal is about to jump ship from hd dvd after less than stellar hd dvd sales so far and blu ray clobbering hd dvd recently. not only that but if you want to rent a movieonhd dvd you basically have to do it over the internet now, something most consumers dont want to do as they dont want to jump through hoops to see a movie on saturday night at home or have delivery complications etc.
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the HD DVD Promotional Group does not have MS as any chair/primary position company, nor is it a managing member.

but hey... i'm sure your fanboy brain can concoct some proof that MS did pay for that exclusivity deal... even though MS's position in the HD DVD Promotional Group is no higher than Paramounts. :)

c0mplex

Well said. MS does not in any way, shape, or form own the HD/DVD format. So they get nothing out of this.

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#36 cooldust
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oh no! No Transformers 2 for him!?? COME ON! I loved the 1st one:cry:rogerjak
same amazing movie they have 2 make a second
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#37 KoolEmpty
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Good, maybe they'll find a director with some talent for the 2nd one.
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#38 Absynthetic
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[QUOTE="rogerjak"]oh no! No Transformers 2 for him!?? COME ON! I loved the 1st one:cry:cooldust
same amazing movie they have 2 make a second

oh c',mon, a money making juggernaught like Transformers?

a second is gauranteed

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#39 c0mplex
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although there is no proof MS paid for anything, they do have vested interest in seeing the format succeed, this coupled with the drop in the price of the add-on, and slight drop in price of the 360, and only a blind person would say MS didnt have a hand in or have knowledge of this. MS gets money from hd dvd cus they are contracted for the system it uses, kind of like an OS, for the interactive features and whatnot while blu ray went with java.
Stall0wn3d

i agree that MS has an incentive for HD DVD to succeed. but its lowly position in the HD DVD Promotional Group, low interest in the movie industry, and the no required tie in between HD DVD and the 360 gives MS no reason to pay $150 million for Paramount's exclusivity.

not to mention that Peter Moore (back when he worked at MS) said that there is no reason for them to create a Blu Ray add-on if HD DVD fails.

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although there is no proof MS paid for anything, they do have vested interest in seeing the format succeed, this coupled with the drop in the price of the add-on, and slight drop in price of the 360, and only a blind person would say MS didnt have a hand in or have knowledge of this. MS gets money from hd dvd cus they are contracted for the system it uses, kind of like an OS, for the interactive features and whatnot while blu ray went with java.
Stall0wn3d

actually, MS had absoulutely nothing to do with the deal

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/21/technology/21disney.html?ei=5088&en=d4e1f285e2f41437&ex=1345348800&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1187698143-B5wO3L/F+4r1NyAsum87vQ

""We provided no financial incentives to Paramount or DreamWorks whatsoever," said Amir Majidimehr, the head of Microsoft's consumer media technology group."

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#41 blackldragon
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Lol I wonder how much of these threads will be created before the day is over I predict 20. ;) But yeah sucks for paramount I dont think that anyone should choose sides in this format war just wait and see which format is getting more buys, then hail the winner and forget all about the loser.
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#42 Creeping_Wolf
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Good for us. Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll stop making movies, period.
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#43 blackldragon
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Good for us. Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll stop making movies, period. Creeping_Wolf

No thats horrible if he stops making movies. That'll suck for us. Unless thats sarcasm. Then... :roll:

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#44 darthogre
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You have to put this all in context.

Bay is probably pissed off because he realizes not having Blu-Ray means 70% less sales which means less roaylties for him. I'll bet his contract stipulates he gets a % of the revenue from the sales of Transformers on DVD and highdef formats. I'd be pissed too if someone just took a chunk of my money because MS..errrr the HD camp paid Paramount off.

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[QUOTE="Creeping_Wolf"]Good for us. Maybe we'll all get lucky and he'll stop making movies, period. blackldragon

No thats horrible if he stops making movies. That'll suck for us. Unless thats sarcasm. Then... :roll:

How will that suck? It means we get spared movies like, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys 2 and box office blunders like The Island. Bay did nothing to make Transformers cool, he actually detracted from it. Give the reigns to someone else as well as a competent writer and you could have a way better sequel. Stop giving Michael Bay credit that he doesn't deserve. People didn't go see Transformers because it was a Michael Bay movie, they saw it because it was a Transformers movie.

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You have to put this all in context.

Bay is probably pissed off because he realizes not having Blu-Ray means 70% less sales which means less roaylties for him. I'll bet his contract stipulates he gets a % of the revenue from the sales of Transformers on DVD and highdef formats. I'd be pissed too if someone just took a chunk of my money because MS..errrr the HD camp paid Paramount off.

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So your saying he wants his chunk of the $150 mill. Lol if true(probably not), now some of the other directors might also want their money upfront.
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#48 racastro65
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any idea of why that happened exactly ?

dropping a different format like that

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#49 gizmo_logix
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Here's another story about his blog (which is above. You'll need an account). http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/21/michael-bay-responds-to-paramounts-abandonment-of-blu-ray-no-t/
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#50 CameosisJ
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when I look him up on wikipedia... it really made me wonder. He seems to be the butt of a lot of jokes concerning overated directors. From South Park to Entourage to Spiderman Comics, all rippin on him. Havent sen any of his movies other than Bad Boys & part of Bad Boys 2 (uggghhh) but oh well. Nice to see someone taking some sort of stance on companies who monopolize