HOME can support only 64 people simultaneously?

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#1 rappid_rabbit
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Really? Only 64 people, in a single server?  I was under the assumption that ALL PS3 owners would be able to interact with each other. 64 people? That just took the "Wow" out of it.
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#2 rogerjak
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Link?
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#3 captainhowdy23
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 That's still good just different servers possibly.
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#4 -Sniper99-
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Really? Only 64 people, in a single server?  I was under the assumption that ALL PS3 owners would be able to interact with each other. 64 people? That just took the "Wow" out of it.rappid_rabbit
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#5 Droynas
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yea, I would like to see a link to that... And not a homemade page where you write it ;)

I never heard that before and I have a REALLY hard time beliving it...

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#6 rogerjak
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Imagine this. Only 64 people by server, but there are,like, 2000 servers.What difference does it make?

 

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#7 Caimstro
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he misunderstood the article, it is 64 people per area, for example when u go to the arcade section a maximum of 64 people will be there, , the server will hold X amount of people but when u visit a specific area it will filter 64 people groups into them, there could be 3700 people in the arcade but u see the 64 random people it chose, the ppl in there also see the same 64.which is just about right why would u want to walk to the arcade and then there be 200 ppl talking at the same time, that bee total crap, a mess.
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#8 Takiwara
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dude too many people voice chatting and typing all over the place would be toocrazy in small areas. the 64 ppl is a good thing for the arcade as mentioned before. but in the commons area or whatever more wouldbe good.
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#9 Jamh83
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It's true, Phil mentioned it in one of his interviews after the announcement. Each server is limited to 64 people at any given time, but he said they're working on a system to keep friends together.
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#10 Timstuff
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64 people can appear in a lobby at a time, because otherwise it would get too laggy and too crowded.
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#11 Absynthetic
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he misunderstood the article, it is 64 people per area, for example when u go to the arcade section a maximum of 64 people will be there, , the server will hold X amount of people but when u visit a specific area it will filter 64 people groups into them, there could be 3700 people in the arcade but u see the 64 random people it chose, the ppl in there also see the same 64.which is just about right why would u want to walk to the arcade and then there be 200 ppl talking at the same time, that bee total crap, a mess.Caimstro

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#12 Velric
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he misunderstood the article, it is 64 people per area, for example when u go to the arcade section a maximum of 64 people will be there, , the server will hold X amount of people but when u visit a specific area it will filter 64 people groups into them, there could be 3700 people in the arcade but u see the 64 random people it chose, the ppl in there also see the same 64.which is just about right why would u want to walk to the arcade and then there be 200 ppl talking at the same time, that bee total crap, a mess.Caimstro
This is pretty much the case. Each area is split up into multiple instances. You can interact with the other 63 people in your area or contact friends and jump to their instance. It is unrealistic to expect for everyone to be able to exist in the same area at one time.
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#13 rappid_rabbit
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Sorry, yes it seemed I misunderstood the article. Only 64 people in the lobby. After that lobby has filled up, a new lobby will spring up...or something. But still I thought you could interact with everybody in the whole PS3 nation. I thought it was a real virtual world. Eh Home doesnt seem that great to me anymore.
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#14 cheapness1
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64 ppl simultaneously per instance of the main public areas...

basically you won't see a mass of 2000 ppl crowding the place as soon as you log in, which i think is a good thing...

they also have a system in place so that you and your friends on your friends list can log in and be in the same instance of the world.

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#15 BenderUnit22
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there'll be instances for each public location. Imagine hundreds of people chating in one room, total chaos, especially if they use voice chat
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#16 Velric
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Sorry, yes it seemed I misunderstood the article. Only 64 people in the lobby. After that lobby has filled up, a new lobby will spring up...or something. But still I thought you could interact with everybody in the whole PS3 nation. I thought it was a real virtual world. Eh Home doesnt seem that great to me anymore. rappid_rabbit
I'll say it again. It is *not* possible and was highly unrealistic of you to expect to be able to see everyone at one time. Having multiple instances is *not* limiting your ability to interact with the community. Please, stop whining about it.
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#17 teebeenz
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Like GW its Instance based so people are split into seperate rooms, 64being the max, but unlike GW when you goto a place the service tryies and groups friends so you end up in the same instance. Great thng bout using instances like this is to increase capacity you just throw more machines at the problem, where as if it was all on the 1 server youd need major changes.
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#18 rappid_rabbit
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.
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#19 tatu2004
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i'm sure they could make it up to 1000 people a time that would be much better...
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#20 04JETTA
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eventually itl b able to support more jus wait
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#21 BenderUnit22
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.rappid_rabbit
the PS3 might be able to handle it, but the internet couldn't.
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#22 Velric
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.rappid_rabbit
The biggest and best MMO's in the world (Warcraft, EQ2, etc) cannot handle 2000 people in the same place at the same time. It doesn't work that way.
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#23 Velric
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i'm sure they could make it up to 1000 people a time that would be much better...tatu2004
Even that is unreasonable. Go log into an MMO and watch as the numbers climb to 200 in one area. You'll notice the server start to crawl. Start increasing that number and you risk server crashes.
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#24 teebeenz
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Perhaps you didnt see how big the Lobby was, you aint fitting 2000 people in there, and Im betting your net connection wont be to happy bout it either. Instances are used to keep traffic and chaos to a min to make things flow smoothly, it wont effect anything about meeting with friends of people in general.
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#25 Absynthetic
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.rappid_rabbit

do you know how much bandwidth you would need to have to stream info from 1999 other people?

technically not possible

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#26 teebeenz
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Possible, not practical.
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#27 _Cab0ose87_
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he misunderstood the article, it is 64 people per area, for example when u go to the arcade section a maximum of 64 people will be there, , the server will hold X amount of people but when u visit a specific area it will filter 64 people groups into them, there could be 3700 people in the arcade but u see the 64 random people it chose, the ppl in there also see the same 64.which is just about right why would u want to walk to the arcade and then there be 200 ppl talking at the same time, that bee total crap, a mess.Caimstro

 

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up.

PS: nice Sig.

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#28 plg2307
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The experience with too many people would not be better than too few, 2000 people would make the place litterally black with people, finding someone in that mess would only make me mad. Not counting that your internet connection would not be able to handle and their upload (sony server) would not be able either to handle it either... no server can make this much for now
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#29 E_x_i_l_e
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Wow, why would you complain about this? You saw the space available in the trailer for Home.. imagine 2,000,000 + PS3 gamers all in that same lobby..
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#30 teebeenz
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Wow, why would you complain about this? You saw the space available in the trailer for Home.. imagine 2,000,000 + PS3 gamers all in that same lobby..E_x_i_l_e
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#31 lennygundam14
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64 is just right.  Just imagine if theres over 100 people in a room, total lag...  but anyway, we'ill see how the Beta looks this april.

 

Speaking of home, do you guys think that when Home arrives in the fall, will the PSN be integrated to the point were Sony can run the gaming servers like Live, because of the revenue that they are putting  out of home through ads? Not to mention enhanced integrated buddy list, voice chat, etc.  becuase if it does, that can pwn... 

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#32 GamersNightmare
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It's probably 64 people for your server as in your invites to your apartment and things like that. I would imagine that the "Home World" is a lot larger if not like a free for all of interaction. That would be cool.
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#33 trav_have
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If there was too many people it wouldnt be very fun..
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#34 The_Rick_14
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Damn, and I was looking forward to organizing huge marches of people to protest unimportant things lol :P
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#35 Brendruis
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Image it like an MMORPG similar to EverQuest..  The "world" PlayStation Home itself consists of thousands of users, but each individual "zone" has a capacity limit to control the amount of performance loss both from a network and graphics standpoint.
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#36 TheSystemLord1
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.rappid_rabbit

 

Uh, yeah I really think you are the only one who thinks so.  I'm sorry, but everybody who has ever played games like SWG (original version) and gone through cities like coronet/Theed/Bestine knows that alot of people in a small space spamming messages is misery. 

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#37 cheezy909
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he misunderstood the article, it is 64 people per area, for example when u go to the arcade section a maximum of 64 people will be there, , the server will hold X amount of people but when u visit a specific area it will filter 64 people groups into them, there could be 3700 people in the arcade but u see the 64 random people it chose, the ppl in there also see the same 64.which is just about right why would u want to walk to the arcade and then there be 200 ppl talking at the same time, that bee total crap, a mess.Caimstro
Thanks for making the topic make sence to me.
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#38 PearlDrummer5
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not to sound like a noob but how do you get home onto the PS3
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#39 The_Rick_14
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not to sound like a noob but how do you get home onto the PS3PearlDrummer5
you wait til october
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#40 PearlDrummer5
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i kno that you hav to wait for it to come out first, but will you just download it out of the online store?
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#41 doolies
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Exactly the same system as Guild Wars. Instanced areas, and you can probably hop to and from different instances if you dislike some of the people in one instance (maybe they are being fools, or for whatever reason) or your friends are all on a different instance, and you can switch to it to join them.

 

Although I would be surprised if it was that small a number, hopefully we will be able to have more than 64 people in one instance. I guess that also depends on how large each area in Home is though. 

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#42 plg2307
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i kno that you hav to wait for it to come out first, but will you just download it out of the online store? PearlDrummer5

or like folding@home , you have it on XMB already just have to download it from the XMB

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#43 fivegreenaliens
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if you think about it for a sec, even 64 people in one server is a pretty good ammount, an dim sure you can always go to different zones to meet more people
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#44 daburke03
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meh
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#45 Gordon_Slaveman
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i'm sure they could make it up to 1000 people a time that would be much better...tatu2004
that would be insane chaos.
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#46 fivegreenaliens
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if possible, i want to strip my avatar down to his briefs and run around the lobby LOL
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#47 tekakwo
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Really? Only 64 people, in a single server?  I was under the assumption that ALL PS3 owners would be able to interact with each other. 64 people? That just took the "Wow" out of it.rappid_rabbit
hello, you cant have over a million playstation users in that small lounge or the entire facility. its just too much.. no air to breathe man
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if possible, i want to strip my avatar down to his briefs and run around the lobby LOLfivegreenaliens
I think a bunch of us should do that and create that angry mob I was talkin bout earlier but just in briefs lol
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#49 fivegreenaliens
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[QUOTE="fivegreenaliens"]if possible, i want to strip my avatar down to his briefs and run around the lobby LOLThe_Rick_14
I think a bunch of us should do that and create that angry mob I was talkin bout earlier but just in briefs lol

lol, im the type of guy who loves to mess with people by doing funny stuff like that lmao
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#50 longhorn7
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But 2000 people talking at the same time would have been freaking awesome!!! Am I the only person that thinks so? I thought the PS3 could handle this type of stuff. Of course there would be a system in place, so you know, random people cant interrupt your convo...but man, I really had envisioned a different type of Home.rappid_rabbit
have you ever listened to more than one person talk on a headset at oce/ now make that a few thousand. that would be frikkin horrible