How can SONY make a rebound? IYO of course!

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#51 resevl4rlz
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[QUOTE="bpw8"]I just checked and the xbox is 399 for the version I would get if I ever did get one. So thats what 100 bucks less than sony and the PS3 comes with Bluray. That's worth 100 dollars to me. the 200 dollar xbox is a joke for me since I would play with nothing less than HDMI hookups. I don't want to be using old technology on a next gen system. I think the price on the PS3 is high, but now that I have one and realize all its capabilities, it seems well worth it. You are paying for what you get. 200 dollars will next you and xbox... but you have like no storage space on it, no headset, no ethernet cable, no hdmi, no backwards compatibility , you lose a lot to save a little money. anyway just my 2 cents.navstar29
Actually the 80 gig sells for 399, while the 160 gig + uncharted sells for 499. So the elite price is the same as the PS3.

Xbox arcade 260 199.99 is cheaper than the wii and ps3

the Wii is cheaper then the 60gb 360 at 299.99 and ps3 with like how many consoles 500 for the 160 and 400 for 80

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#52 digitalman42
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Yes. Most PS3 games are on DVD, a few are on Blueray.
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#53 hassanfadil
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I think the price drop would help, but i think sony should hold tight on the exclusive and not make them multiplatform

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#54 resevl4rlz
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I think the price drop would help, but i think sony should hold tight on the exclusive and not make them multiplatform

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that should of happen for most third paries companies
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#55 digitalman42
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[QUOTE="johnny41252"]Arcades do have hdmi. Just not the cable.......bpw8
ah ya i see that now my mistake.. but still you gotta buy the cable.. but ya PS3 didn't have the cable either so that negates that whole thing for me.. other points are still valid

Thats nice that you have only use HDMI im proud of you. Alot of people like me dont have HDMI on our tv sets. Why are we forced to pay for the cable? thats my whole point. I want a PS3 so does alot of other people, but I refuse to pay over $300 for a video game system just on principal alone. It's a bad habit, and once it's accept they will all be over $300

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#56 navstar29
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And again if they saved money from going from 40 to 80 gig they should cut the price some for that alone. Im glad you know the cost for Sony when it comes to there wifi adapter. It is also not necessary, anyone who streams HD video will get much better quality from a wired connection, thats why I have a wired connection. digitalman42
Right, because every time something inside a piece of technology gets reduced in price by like 5 dollars, the price should be reduced by 5 dollars ... (/facepalm). This isn't gas. And I never said that the cost to sony was reduced from the 40 to 80 transition, it could have increased, but it would have cost sony more than what it does now to implement the 40 gb over the 80. And yes streams in HD are also wonderful on the PS3's wired connection, and if you know how to set a router, and with the proper internet connections you can get download speeds of 2.4MB/s over wifi like I do, which is more than enough for HD streams. Having the option for wifi is not a bad thing, its funny listening to people try and justify how having more options is a bad thing.
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#57 navstar29
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Yes. Most PS3 games are on DVD, a few are on Blueray.digitalman42

Wrong. All PS3 games are on Blu Ray. Look at the the disc, Blu ray seal on all of them.

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#58 legend_maker
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Sony needs to secure 3rd party games and make sure it stays exclusive, i find that the more exclusives you have the more consoles you will sell
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#59 digitalman42
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Well since you act like you know the cost of the Wireless card and the hard drives. According to you, Sony is going to fail due to the cost of Blueray then?? is that why your saying the price is so high?? so basicly I guess sony is in last place,, far last, solid #3, because it wanted to promote blueray format more than win the console war. I pity you guys who bought a PS3, with the very poor 3rd party support, high prices, and the fact that the low sales will drive 3rd party support down even more.
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#60 abdelmessih101
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Price cuts, price cuts, and, oh, PRICE CUTS!!!!!!!!!!! Sony needs to lower the price. Then they would be able to compete. They have priced themselves right out of the competition. I love my PS3 and believe it is the best console, but many people do not believe it is worth the price when you can get a X360 for $200.orbis_mortis
What can you do with a $200 Xbox?
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#61 NinjaMunkey01
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Sony needs to secure 3rd party games and make sure it stays exclusive, i find that the more exclusives you have the more consoles you will sell legend_maker
Right now its all about price. Especially with the current economical situation.
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#62 NinjaMunkey01
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Yes. Most PS3 games are on DVD, a few are on Blueray.digitalman42
ALL are on blu ray.
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#63 legend_maker
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yeah but why else would you buy a GAMING CONSOLE? its meant for gaming, and their price is pretty low already.. think about it if ps3 hadnt had games like ff13, DMC4 and all the other exclusives stolen from them wouldn't more people buy a console because of the amazing games on it regardless of the price
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#64 domerfan1975
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y you don't see a ps3 at 300? heres the answer: a blue ray player itself is 300 bucks. throw in a gaming console with it and its going to cost more. Sony just want to at least make their money back. you get what you pay for. its either a pos system without the latest in technology or the great ps3: the future game console. Quit being cheap and spend the money. you get what you pay for.
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[QUOTE="orbis_mortis"]Price cuts, price cuts, and, oh, PRICE CUTS!!!!!!!!!!! Sony needs to lower the price. Then they would be able to compete. They have priced themselves right out of the competition. I love my PS3 and believe it is the best console, but many people do not believe it is worth the price when you can get a X360 for $200.NYCPrincess

You guys might as well be asking sony for a handout. Thne price is low enough already. My fiance bought the 60gb ps3 day 1 & it was near $700 then, so now now that it's a huge chunk lower than it was some of you still complain about the price? Funny! If you work & could afford it then I don't see the issue...if you don't & can't afford it then just stick around the forums & dream about another price drop.

That's true, I got my 60 GB launch week $636 and thats fine for us that can afford that, but were talking about a game system not a Mercedes. Everyone who wants a ps3 that can afford it already has one. The only others who want one but don't have one, most likely cant afford it, or they don't want to pay that much. A price drop is needed as much as I personally disagree, but from an economic stand point both the wii and 360 are cheaper and both have old more so logically it has the be the price. The games are great so it can't be that. It really comes down to what Sony wants to do, they will be seccussivle no matter what, because althought the ps3 is in last place its still selling great, so there's no worries about them not making enough money. The only dellema is wether they want to pull out of last place, and a prce droup will do that, other wise thay will still sell good with out it.

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#66 Solid_Snak3Xx
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Advertaising the crap outta their games, they should hire more people to work on their games/firmwares, so it doesnt take 3 years to make a game or several updates to get the things gamers should ve have from day one ( in game xmb anyone?) mmm yeah price cut should help too
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#67 MFbronz
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bring the 20 gig back pop a 40 gig in there take out wireless(since there are a few wireless adapters out there that will work)and no BC---300 bucks...its on the same level as the pro 360 witha a slightly smaller hdd..
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#68 jeremiah06
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What Sony needs to do is bundle PS3's in with their HD TV's
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#69 Leostatic
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Yes. Most PS3 games are on DVD, a few are on Blueray.digitalman42

LOL This has quickly devolved into a system war...but if you want people to listen and better yet, appreciate your opinion it would behoove you to state facts/evidence to back up your position. Pulling nonsense like the above quote out of your *** doesn't do the trick. :)

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#70 I_pWnzz_YoU
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The ability to play music in-game...Seriously.
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#71 I_pWnzz_YoU
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What Sony needs to do is bundle PS3's in with their HD TV'sjeremiah06
That'd be brilliant Idea. Especially with this great economic status our society has come to.
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#72 nimuk
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More general appeal games to the psn. A first the psn was releasing games like mk2, tekken:dr , gaunlet now they are just pushing exclusive stuff, except for capcom. More classic videogames and online boardgames/ card games.

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#73 shabab12
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the ps3 has a better game library anyway so i dont get it.
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#74 taplok
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make up their minds and just release a single model, like the 40 GB, besides, the PS3 is upgradable, so the owners still has the option if they want more disk space. also, they can push the PS3 more. i see a lot of sony exclusive stores that doesn't have a PS3 in it. release games with quality and not quantity.
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bring the 20 gig back pop a 40 gig in there take out wireless(since there are a few wireless adapters out there that will work)and no BC---300 bucks...its on the same level as the pro 360 witha a slightly smaller hdd..MFbronz

Even without Wi-Fi and with a 40GB HD the PS3 have more content than the 360, i like both systems but that's the truth. Compare carefully both of them and you will notice this:

PS3 have

1. From what i have read ( 8 core processor)

2. Upgradable Hard Drive

3. Free online gaming

4. Blue Ray player

5. Web Browser

6. Wi-Fi

7. Some games support 1080P

8. Controllers without the need to buy a rechargeable pack

9. Modern Disk drive not like the old DVD player drive

XBOX 360 have

1. 3 Core processor

2. Disk drive like the old DVD players and the ones from PC

3. No Wi-Fi

4. No Blue Ray player

5. No browser

6. 60 GB Hard Drive and 512 MB The Arcade

7. $50.00 a year to play online

8. You need buy a rechargeable kit for the controllers

9. You can't change the Hard Drive with one of your preference

10. High failure rate

11. Only 720p of resolution in games

I might sound like a fan but the truth is the truth, i like both systems for gaming but when you compare carefully both of them the PS3 have more content and better value.

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#76 jsmoke03
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first of they need to realize and admitt that they messed up. their arrogance really got the best of them. they can't spin being in "third place" is a good thing, because i don't think they made the ps3 to be in thrid place.

when they humble themselves, they can start to change their miss-step.

Price cut. you can't be 1st in this recession being the most expensive system. they are taking losses with the price anyway, but everyone knows they make it up through software sales.

how about $5 discount on games. instead of $59.99...why not $55. a cheaper game, and free online might push their multi plat game sales.

PAY FOR EXCLUSIVES! try to work out a deal in bringing at least timed exclusive for 6 months. that really helps game sales and helps associate games for ps3 instead of multi plat. also make sure that developers not advertise that its multi plat UNTIL the game releases 3 months into the timed exclusive. having the deal with ubisoft games, namco,square enix and capcom would help.

make deals with individual developement studios.help them make games better and easier. if the cell is hard to code for, make it easier for them. in turn get some exclusive rights.

more advertising! not that montage of all the games, but indvidual advertisements on games. have lbp flood the saturday morning cartoons and cartoon network.

make online gaming easier by making matchmaking wit friends easier. have a lineal online hub and not let game studios make their own. hire some great networking people that can make the xmb and psn more creative. its functional, make it unique.

home is great, but use the trophy system as virtual cash to customize clothes, and user space. it makes trophy system more relevant.

have better games that relate to the japanese market. have you seen your sales in japan? its horrible. bring more rpgs and games that interest their taste,

stop trying to make a million sku's. just have one...an affordable 1.

from there we can build a model that can carry to ps4 and beyond. it starts with price...then with games...then advertise them.

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#77 jmdude
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make it cheaper and have a solid ad campaign.
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[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]What Sony needs to do is bundle PS3's in with their HD TV'sI_pWnzz_YoU
That'd be brilliant Idea. Especially with this great economic status our society has come to.

Yea, you can keep your unfunny sarcasm to yourself. Lots of people plan to buy HD TVs this holiday season, I'm one of them and I know at least 20 people just off the top of my head its not like HD TVs just aren't selling. You could at least make a joke with you obvious sarcasm.

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#79 Grizzly_7
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All Ps3 needs is a MMORPG like Everquest and its set for the next 5 yrs
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Yes. Most PS3 games are on DVD, a few are on Blueray.digitalman42
What??? Get your facts straight buddy, all PS3 games are on Blu-ray discs.
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#81 orbis_mortis
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A few people are taking my first post out of context. Please, read people.:roll: I was just answering the TC's question, which is "How can SONY make a rebound?" I said Sony needs to cut prices. This was not me attacking the PS3. In fact, the PS3 is my console of choice. I bought it at its highest price the day it came out and I believe it was worth every penny. So please quit taking my post out of context.

To the guy that thinks PS3 games are on DVD - Sorry man, but you are dead wrong. Every game I have for my PS3 is Blu-Ray and I have some of the first games like Resistance and Motorstorm.

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#82 TriangleHard
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Price cut is wrong way to go. It shows the company isn't confident of their own product and if consumer doesn't buy it, it's nail in the coffin. What Sony needs is GAMES. Secure exclusive games and get big ones that swings console sales. Dragon Quest for Japan, Final Fantasy for the world, and Call of Duty for America. pay some **** load of money to get biggest franchise exclusive for PS3 and rest should follow.
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#83 I_pWnzz_YoU
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"]What Sony needs to do is bundle PS3's in with their HD TV'sjeremiah06

That'd be brilliant Idea. Especially with this great economic status our society has come to.

Yea, you can keep your unfunny sarcasm to yourself. Lots of people plan to buy HD TVs this holiday season, I'm one of them and I know at least 20 people just off the top of my head its not like HD TVs just aren't selling. You could at least make a joke with you obvious sarcasm.

Yeah but you can't bundle two really expensive things together for a low price. Buying a HDTV I understand, hell I bought one. But bundling a PS3 with an HDTV...
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#84 thelastguy
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Price cut is wrong way to go. It shows the company isn't confident of their own product and if consumer doesn't buy it, it's nail in the coffin. What Sony needs is GAMES. Secure exclusive games and get big ones that swings console sales. Dragon Quest for Japan, Final Fantasy for the world, and Call of Duty for America. pay some **** load of money to get biggest franchise exclusive for PS3 and rest should follow. TriangleHard

Price cuts also occur when manufacturing costs come down. It is not always a sign of weakness. When you see a $199 console sitting next to a $399 console, you need a price cut in order to stay competitive.

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#86 Foxhound_spy
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Sony should cut PS3 price next year.................. At least $50 for ( IMO ).................. And start to gain 3rd party exclusive games. To me if DMC4, GTA4, FF13 & others stay exclusive PS3 sales don`t be this low............. SONY can`t expect consumers to buy PS3 because of the brand name. To me SONY just letting Crazy Ken made a stupid claim about PS3. For example when he said that consumers must work extra time to get PS3. To me i`ts a bit insulting towards middle / lower class people.
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#87 skapunkclarence
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[QUOTE="orbis_mortis"][QUOTE="NYCPrincess"]

You guys might as well be asking sony for a handout. Thne price is low enough already. My fiance bought the 60gb ps3 day 1 & it was near $700 then, so now now that it's a huge chunk lower than it was some of you still complain about the price? Funny! If you work & could afford it then I don't see the issue...if you don't & can't afford it then just stick around the forums & dream about another price drop.

NYCPrincess

I bought my 60 gb PS3 on day one too for the exact same price. I am not complaining about the price. The TC asked what Sony could do to compete and I am sorry but that is what they are going to have to do. I believe the PS3 is worth every penny it cost, but it seems most gamers do not, unfortunately.

I agree. It is a great system & us launch buyers paid waaaay more for a 60gb than what these recent ps3 owners are paying for a 160gb ps3.



You mean, the same 160GB PS3 that has no backwards compatibility? That one? :o It makes me laugh, you've essentially posted in a topic about PS3 sales dwindling with the reason, "Nobody can afford them" - just like most other people are saying - but then tacking on a really self-righteous "get a job - I have one!" jab to the ribs that honestly isn't needed. Didn't you remember that most of the Western world is in a recession? With thousands getting laid off every day, with no payouts, and inflation blowing every price completely out of proportion - how can you honestly think that people would choose to fritter away $500 for a games console? You know, over their welfare or similar?

For the record: I haven't bought a PS3 yet, generally because it's so expensive over here in the UK as well, with no backwards compatibility. Waiting for a price drop...
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#88 G-T-A---M-A-D
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Just like every one else has said here, PRICE CUTS atleast a 100$ one and flood the tv with ads. also release casual family frendly games like Eyetoy, when is the latest one coming out?
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#89 deactivated-58319077a6477
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The latest NPD numbers tell meSony need to act fast, the PS3 sales for November are not that good compared to the other consoles.
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#90 scass319
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I really don't think SONY needs to make a rebound. I think with many exclusives like White Knight Chronicles, and Final Fantasy coming out, along with other games is a great thing.
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#91 digitalman42
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y you don't see a ps3 at 300? heres the answer: a blue ray player itself is 300 bucks. throw in a gaming console with it and its going to cost more. Sony just want to at least make their money back. you get what you pay for. its either a pos system without the latest in technology or the great ps3: the future game console. Quit being cheap and spend the money. you get what you pay for.domerfan1975

Umm,, no, you can get a Sony or a Samsung for $200 or lower on pricegrabber at any given time.

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#92 digitalman42
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[QUOTE="MFbronz"]bring the 20 gig back pop a 40 gig in there take out wireless(since there are a few wireless adapters out there that will work)and no BC---300 bucks...its on the same level as the pro 360 witha a slightly smaller hdd..soulreaper-4

Even without Wi-Fi and with a 40GB HD the PS3 have more content than the 360, i like both systems but that's the truth. Compare carefully both of them and you will notice this:

PS3 have

1. From what i have read ( 8 core processor)

2. Upgradable Hard Drive

3. Free online gaming

4. Blue Ray player

5. Web Browser

6. Wi-Fi

7. Some games support 1080P

8. Controllers without the need to buy a rechargeable pack

9. Modern Disk drive not like the old DVD player drive

XBOX 360 have

1. 3 Core processor

2. Disk drive like the old DVD players and the ones from PC

3. No Wi-Fi

4. No Blue Ray player

5. No browser

6. 60 GB Hard Drive and 512 MB The Arcade

7. $50.00 a year to play online

8. You need buy a rechargeable kit for the controllers

9. You can't change the Hard Drive with one of your preference

10. High failure rate

11. Only 720p of resolution in games

I might sound like a fan but the truth is the truth, i like both systems for gaming but when you compare carefully both of them the PS3 have more content and better value.

You forgot to mention the 360's GPU is alot more powerful than the PS3's. Also the Jasper is out, should be a reliable system now.

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#93 Lord__Darkstorn
Member since 2007 • 2031 Posts

1. Cut the price

2. Keep the damn exclusives!

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#94 Leostatic
Member since 2008 • 217 Posts
[QUOTE="soulreaper-4"]

[QUOTE="MFbronz"]bring the 20 gig back pop a 40 gig in there take out wireless(since there are a few wireless adapters out there that will work)and no BC---300 bucks...its on the same level as the pro 360 witha a slightly smaller hdd..digitalman42

Even without Wi-Fi and with a 40GB HD the PS3 have more content than the 360, i like both systems but that's the truth. Compare carefully both of them and you will notice this:

PS3 have

1. From what i have read ( 8 core processor)

2. Upgradable Hard Drive

3. Free online gaming

4. Blue Ray player

5. Web Browser

6. Wi-Fi

7. Some games support 1080P

8. Controllers without the need to buy a rechargeable pack

9. Modern Disk drive not like the old DVD player drive

XBOX 360 have

1. 3 Core processor

2. Disk drive like the old DVD players and the ones from PC

3. No Wi-Fi

4. No Blue Ray player

5. No browser

6. 60 GB Hard Drive and 512 MB The Arcade

7. $50.00 a year to play online

8. You need buy a rechargeable kit for the controllers

9. You can't change the Hard Drive with one of your preference

10. High failure rate

11. Only 720p of resolution in games

I might sound like a fan but the truth is the truth, i like both systems for gaming but when you compare carefully both of them the PS3 have more content and better value.

You forgot to mention the 360's GPU is alot more powerful than the PS3's. Also the Jasper is out, should be a reliable system now.

Go back to system wars or the other console's board...you're the same reject who made the claim that ps3's aren't on bluray. Your opinion carries no weight, your lack of intellect is readily apparent, and your lack of depth is revealing. Basically, you're playing checkers while the rest of us are playing chess.

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#95 WR_Platinum
Member since 2003 • 4685 Posts
Sony is fine how they are now. Next year athey need to pump in those great games and make more advertisements.
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#96 MusashiSensi
Member since 2004 • 9584 Posts
Another price cut? Keep dreaming.
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#97 YoJim8obaJoe
Member since 2008 • 2653 Posts
Ensure multiformat games dont lose rights to expansions to 360 like with GTA4 and Fallout 3,I dont want to trade my copies in to get them again for my 360,it damn loud
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#98 skate_n_game
Member since 2007 • 132 Posts
Obvious answer would be price cuts, but keeping their exclusives for a change would undoubtedly help.
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#99 sasapac
Member since 2008 • 1056 Posts

i think that sony has to make a light version of ps3 like xbox arcabe

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#100 Chaos_Bladez
Member since 2007 • 5801 Posts
They are only doing one thing wrong. There's so many games so that isn't an issue anymore. Drop the price to at LEAST $300 and advertise to hell and back. That's it. That's how they will reclaim the "throne."