I actually like Anonymous?

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]Good point but what he did in hacking or jailbreaking the ps3 is against Sony's rules, well against any console manufacturers rules. If you don't want to fork out money for games, don't buy it. Simple as that. What Sony therefore did was right.360hammer

So, basically your saying Sony's rules ( Terms of Service Agreement ) are law resaulting in fine or jail time ? Seriously ? If thats what people believe then let me just say I'm starting a company and creating my own terms which you commoners will abide by as law which over rule your countries own laws.

It's a fantastic idea. We'll video tape those to drink the lemonade as proof, let sometime go buy to let the number of "drinkers" to accumulate, then SUE THEM ALL. We'll be rich!!

EDIT: Upon reading this post, readers agree to not copy, copy & alter, or share this business model. All who do are subject to a finite fine to be determined by dk00111® on a case by case basis.

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]Good point but what he did in hacking or jailbreaking the ps3 is against Sony's rules, well against any console manufacturers rules. If you don't want to fork out money for games, don't buy it. Simple as that. What Sony therefore did was right.00Killaz00

So, basically your saying Sony's rules ( Terms of Service Agreement ) are law resaulting in fine or jail time ? Seriously ? If thats what people believe then let me just say I'm starting a company and creating my own terms which you commoners will abide by as law which over rule your countries own laws.

This generation is so self-righteous it's not even funny...

LMAO Doesn't care about corporations enforcing it's will just that someone is going to point it out.

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

[QUOTE="H_M_1"]Good point but what he did in hacking or jailbreaking the ps3 is against Sony's rules, well against any console manufacturers rules. If you don't want to fork out money for games, don't buy it. Simple as that. What Sony therefore did was right.dk00111

So, basically your saying Sony's rules ( Terms of Service Agreement ) are law resaulting in fine or jail time ? Seriously ? If thats what people believe then let me just say I'm starting a company and creating my own terms which you commoners will abide by as law which over rule your countries own laws.

It's a fantastic idea. We'll video tape those to drink the lemonade as proof, let sometime go buy to let the number of "drinkers" to accumulate, then SUE THEM ALL. We'll be rich!!

I'm building the stand and stirring the lemonaid as you read this !!!

[QUOTE="00Killaz00"]

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

So, basically your saying Sony's rules ( Terms of Service Agreement ) are law resaulting in fine or jail time ? Seriously ? If thats what people believe then let me just say I'm starting a company and creating my own terms which you commoners will abide by as law which over rule your countries own laws.

RoboDuckii

This generation is so self-righteous it's not even funny...

[QUOTE="dk00111"]

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

So, basically your saying Sony's rules ( Terms of Service Agreement ) are law resaulting in fine or jail time ? Seriously ? If thats what people believe then let me just say I'm starting a company and creating my own terms which you commoners will abide by as law which over rule your countries own laws.

360hammer

It's a fantastic idea. We'll video tape those to drink the lemonade as proof, let sometime go buy to let the number of "drinkers" to accumulate, then SUE THEM ALL. We'll be rich!!

I'm building the stand and stirring the lemonaid as you read this !!!

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="ColonelVodka"]How is Securom not invasive? Do you even know what it does?

ColonelVodka

If that's not invasive, then I don't know what the word invasive means. I'm pretty sure if SecuRom wasn't invasive, there would be no lawsuits or people with broken computers complaining about how SecuRom caused it.

[QUOTE="RoboDuckii"][QUOTE="00Killaz00"]

This generation is so self-righteous it's not even funny...

GEE_WIZZ

Oh my, You hate Anonymous and they are guilty of what exactly ? No one truely knows whats going on just some guessing and assumptions and you hate. Last time I checked my PS3 works just fine and at no point when turning my system on do I see the name Anonymous or anything related to an outage of the PSN service due to Anonymous. I seriously have no idea what the hell reality your in seeing propaganda being thrown through the PS3 at kids. Again all of this is pure speculation on forums throughout the internet.

360hammer

Mate, your seriously need to start looking "between the lines".. Yes Anonymous name is not broadcasted on PSN, that's true - but...

What do you think happens when someone tries to log on to PSN and finds PSN is down? he's going to wonder why? correct? What happens next?...

They log onto the internet. They type in google "PSN IS DOWN". And the next thing you know they're reading articles on Anonymous hacking into PSN and bringing the service down. The individual wonders what this group "Anonymous" is, so he types Anonymous into google and then websites and youtube videos come up.

If this group was truly "Anonymous" and not just another propaganda anarchistic hype train. Why do they have videos posted on youtube for example "message to scientology". Why do they keep making statements to the press? Why don't they be quiet instead of trying to influence people through viral marketing and advertisement?

You think they're hacking PSN simply because of their hatred for Sony? get real. The Sony Playstation 3 is a consumer based platform with millions of users. By targetting the PS3 they have drawn attention from all users who use the PS3 and the PSN network to their name. It's just ADVERTISING.

The more people that know about them, the larger possibility they have of people joining and supporting them. Thus their infrastructure grows. Anonymous are nothing without the common man joining and supporting them.

Think about this, you're a parent and you buy your kid something as innocent as friggin games console. And next thing you know you're indirectly introducing them into all this crap. It's completely out of order, if Anonymous had anything about them would not of targetted a consumer based product which is used heavily by children and young minds.

If you fully understand what you're submitting to when you accept a firmware update beyond the one your ps3 came with you'd understand that every arguement Anonymous has made against Sony is invalid.

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

boostud

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

[QUOTE="boostud"]

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

ShimmerMan

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

You don't go into a bank and hold everyone hostage including the employees and customers because the bank increases the price of their monthly fees. There is no moral high ground in attacking network traffic.

In the midst of all the quabbles about Anonymous, I actually think theyre somewhat good. Do you not think it's a bit extensive for Sony to sue Hotz for hacking a PS3? I think it is. In computing terms, technology is all about innovation and movement, all Hotz was doing was improving on a PS3 HE bought. I think its stupid to sue a guy who was hacking his own PS3 (Which Sony still gains profits of) he had bought and it goes against the principles of technology. Its suddenly not right when someone wants to modify a product he/she bought, but its suddenly ok for a multi billion corporation to sue him over it? If Anonymous even did hack the PSN, theyre just sticking up for Hotz. Yes, it does affect the millions of PS3 user out here, but if it isnt tackled, these exploitative corporations are gonna throw their weight around and give you a product with strings attached. They obviously want the pressure to be put onto Sony, for Sony to lose wads of cash and to lose reputation, but I think its for a just cause. Either way whether you support or hate Anonymous, you're doing what they want you to do.RoboDuckii

Hotz was hacking his PS3 for the purpose of Piracy. Piracy is cheating consumers out of their hard earned money by forcing the prices of the product up.

Sony have every right to be compensated for their losses by a man who is basicly dishonest and possibly could be termed as a thief.

Anonymous are condoning the actions of a dishonest individual (Hotz) and if it is to be believed that they, or one of their group have now been responsible for the downing of the PSN then they are accountable for the losses made by the Sony corporation.

I feel however, that Sony will not ever get financial settlement from this group and that as a result of a few dishonest peoples actions to gain notoriety we the consumers will eventually foot the bill.

Sony now have ever greater reason to start charging us to use the MP service.

WAY TO GO ANONYMOUS!!

[QUOTE="boostud"]

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

ShimmerMan

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

[QUOTE="boostud"]

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

RoboDuckii

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

[QUOTE="ShimmerMan"]

[QUOTE="boostud"]

Love them or hate them, they are proving an important point. Sony is here because of people like us, without us they are nothing. But somewhere in the game, people forget that WE are their customer. They need to provide us with what we want. Somewhere along the road here people just sat back and let them not only charge us for everything, but also control what they are charging us for. Corporations in general have us cornered, and nobody has the courage to stand up to them. Although I'm a little ticked about the network being down....kudos Anonymous. We pay the bills, we should be able to do what we want when we purchase the hardware/software. I know I'm going to hear about 6,000 different arguments back on this, but you get the point. Its the principal of it all.

RoboDuckii

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

Hindering hackers?

Now tell me. this technology being invented by companies through painstaking R&D "just for money". Without them these hackers would be hacking what? wood?

Hacking is a learning process and anyone who can do it should try it. But posting the information to the world when you know the end effect is to hurt the buttom-line of the manufacturers and the experience of other purchasers of the system is just a dangerous behaviour. Actions should be taken to dissuade such nonsense.

Remember these companies have to make some profit so you can have your PS4 in a few years. Geo Hotz will not invent a new hardware for you or will he create an API for developers to work on it.

Nice alt you created just for this thread I see...

hacking is fine and dandy when done within the boundaries of the law. what Hotz did wrong was make information available that would allow pirated games to be playable on PS3.

i believe Sony did the right thing. as far as anonymous goes... *** holes...

In the beginning I didn't care about what they did but when you do something that involves messing up the network service that I use to play my games on that's when I get pissed.

[QUOTE="RoboDuckii"][QUOTE="ShimmerMan"] That's not how it works. Just because you bought a product of someone doesn't give you "rights" to influence their business. Lets bring it down to basics, lets pretend this is a medieval period and you go and buy a wonderfully made sword from a grand master blacksmith. What is the blacksmith selling you? A sword, and nothing else - he's not going to give you the blueprints to how it made the sword and he's not going to show you how to make it. Because that's not in his interests, he can't run a business like that. And Sony can't run a business by allowing people to do whatever they want with a product THEY designed and are trying to make a profit from.

It's their machine, it's their design - they made it and produced it. You bought with the indication that you would use it for personal commercial use via purchasing software for it. They did not make it for you to hack to **** to do whatever you want with it. It's not your intellectual property, it's Sony's.

khai411

Hindering hackers?

Now tell me. this technology being invented by companies through painstaking R&D "just for money". Without them these hackers would be hacking what? wood?

Hacking is a learning process and anyone who can do it should try it. But posting the information to the world when you know the end effect is to hurt the buttom-line of the manufacturers and the experience of other purchasers of the system is just a dangerous behaviour. Actions should be taken to dissuade such nonsense.

Remember these companies have to make some profit so you can have your PS4 in a few years. Geo Hotz will not invent a new hardware for you or will he create an API for developers to work on it.

This last post is the essence of whats going on here. I don't know about other countries but here in America we have laws protecting companies from such attacks on their business. We DO NOT have laws allowing a company to dictate what information you can post on a website you pay for or to collect privite data like IP addresses of people visiting your site and waging a corporate jihad in the name of profit. Knowing the end effect is hurting a company ? That would be speculatiion, something not punishable by law which is why we have laws preventing angry mobs from exacting their own justice as you are referring to. Technically what the guy did to the PS3 is called reverse engineering, something that has been happening for a very long time.

http://n4g.com/news/750084/anonymous-responds-to-psn-users i just now watched this... How could anyone approve of these guys? Greeeat defense, i'm totally convinced they didn't do anything to the psn now *rolls eyes*. Plus the creepy masks make them look like child molesters.

I like a group that ruins my week-end and prevents me to practice my favorite hobby. I also like a group who bring a whole network down, just to defend a guy that want to ruin online for everyone by allowing hackers to hack the network. I like them for sure.

When the Principle of Technology becomes law, then sure i'll believe you.

Not once have I ever put Anonymous name into googled or into Youtube....

But now with all this happening of course I have. For this reasonI dislike Anoynymous for the simple reason that they're drawing innocent gamers into their information warfare. All this crap is just advertising for them and they're just hoping all this publicity will be a boost to their infrastructure

In a way they're even targetting kids and children, as they know there are plenty of innocent minds on the PSN with which they can subject their propaganda to. A video game console is not the place for this type of crap. A vidoe game console is for family and friends both young and old to play video games in peace! it's not a place to advertise glorified anarchist movements.

In terms of Sony Vs Anonymous

Sony are not the ones parading around broadcasting how "good and mighty they are".. and they're not acting like they are the "saviours of mankind" and they don't pretend to speak for the general populace either. Anonymous however does all of this. So I back SOny in this war, even though I don't really like Sony or any major cooperation for that matter. But I just dislike Anonymous more.

ShimmerMan

People these days want way too much from a console! Didn't anyone else buy a PS3 to play PS3 games? It seems some people want it to clean their house and make their breakfast.. Im 100% HAPPY with what i get from PSN, thats why i pay for PS+. Im not someone who wants features i dont need just for the sake of it! I dont care how Sony handle things, im happy with the product and that all that matters!cooldust

TC, how could you defend those Anonymous cowards? Millions of people are getting screwed because of these jerks and yet you have the nerve to call them brave? I think you need your head examined.

[QUOTE="RoboDuckii"]In the midst of all the quabbles about Anonymous, I actually think theyre somewhat good. Do you not think it's a bit extensive for Sony to sue Hotz for hacking a PS3? I think it is. In computing terms, technology is all about innovation and movement, all Hotz was doing was improving on a PS3 HE bought. I think its stupid to sue a guy who was hacking his own PS3 (Which Sony still gains profits of) he had bought and it goes against the principles of technology. Its suddenly not right when someone wants to modify a product he/she bought, but its suddenly ok for a multi billion corporation to sue him over it? If Anonymous even did hack the PSN, theyre just sticking up for Hotz. Yes, it does affect the millions of PS3 user out here, but if it isnt tackled, these exploitative corporations are gonna throw their weight around and give you a product with strings attached. They obviously want the pressure to be put onto Sony, for Sony to lose wads of cash and to lose reputation, but I think its for a just cause. Either way whether you support or hate Anonymous, you're doing what they want you to do.Chelseablu

Hotz was hacking his PS3 for the purpose of Piracy. Piracy is cheating consumers out of their hard earned money by forcing the prices of the product up.

Sony have every right to be compensated for their losses by a man who is basicly dishonest and possibly could be termed as a thief.

Anonymous are condoning the actions of a dishonest individual (Hotz) and if it is to be believed that they, or one of their group have now been responsible for the downing of the PSN then they are accountable for the losses made by the Sony corporation.

I feel however, that Sony will not ever get financial settlement from this group and that as a result of a few dishonest peoples actions to gain notoriety we the consumers will eventually foot the bill.

Sony now have ever greater reason to start charging us to use the MP service.

WAY TO GO ANONYMOUS!!

[QUOTE="RoboDuckii"] [QUOTE="andalore"]

How is Sony exploiting us?

MonkeySpot

Why don't you have the money to do what you want in life? Who's to blame for that?

They've been exploiting gamers in more ways than one. I guess they can't "lock up and go SS on us" after all. :lol:

I thought Sony going after Hotz was a bit excessive and I was disappointed when they removed the Linux option, as well. But Anonymous is a ridiculous group that I wish would just go away. How anyone could support them (except maybe some teenage kid hoping to live out some sort of cyberpunk fantasy) I do not understand.

In the midst of all the quabbles about Anonymous, I actually think theyre somewhat good. Do you not think it's a bit extensive for Sony to sue Hotz for hacking a PS3? I think it is. In computing terms, technology is all about innovation and movement, all Hotz was doing was improving on a PS3 HE bought. I think its stupid to sue a guy who was hacking his own PS3 (Which Sony still gains profits of) he had bought and it goes against the principles of technology. Its suddenly not right when someone wants to modify a product he/she bought, but its suddenly ok for a multi billion corporation to sue him over it? If Anonymous even did hack the PSN, theyre just sticking up for Hotz. Yes, it does affect the millions of PS3 user out here, but if it isnt tackled, these exploitative corporations are gonna throw their weight around and give you a product with strings attached. They obviously want the pressure to be put onto Sony, for Sony to lose wads of cash and to lose reputation, but I think its for a just cause. Either way whether you support or hate Anonymous, you're doing what they want you to do.RoboDuckii

In the midst of all the quabbles about Anonymous, I actually think theyre somewhat good. Do you not think it's a bit extensive for Sony to sue Hotz for hacking a PS3? I think it is. In computing terms, technology is all about innovation and movement, all Hotz was doing was improving on a PS3 HE bought. I think its stupid to sue a guy who was hacking his own PS3 (Which Sony still gains profits of) he had bought and it goes against the principles of technology. Its suddenly not right when someone wants to modify a product he/she bought, but its suddenly ok for a multi billion corporation to sue him over it? If Anonymous even did hack the PSN, theyre just sticking up for Hotz. Yes, it does affect the millions of PS3 user out here, but if it isnt tackled, these exploitative corporations are gonna throw their weight around and give you a product with strings attached. They obviously want the pressure to be put onto Sony, for Sony to lose wads of cash and to lose reputation, but I think its for a just cause. Either way whether you support or hate Anonymous, you're doing what they want you to do.RoboDuckii

He has a right to modify HIS own product. What he did, however, was to expose trade secrets, and enable those who wanted to commit piracy. Are you that naive to think that Sony are just going to be swell guys and say "Sure, go ahead and give the system keys away. We don't care. Everyone just go crazy!".

If you owned a business and someone kicked down the door in the middle of the night to allow anyone and everyone to rob you blind, I'd willing to bet you'd want the proverbial book thrown at him, and then you'd fix the lock. If you say "well that's different", it's not different because it's video games. It's exactly the same thing. Sony has a right to protect their business.

In the midst of all the quabbles about Anonymous, I actually think theyre somewhat good. Do you not think it's a bit extensive for Sony to sue Hotz for hacking a PS3? I think it is. In computing terms, technology is all about innovation and movement, all Hotz was doing was improving on a PS3 HE bought. I think its stupid to sue a guy who was hacking his own PS3 (Which Sony still gains profits of) he had bought and it goes against the principles of technology. Its suddenly not right when someone wants to modify a product he/she bought, but its suddenly ok for a multi billion corporation to sue him over it? If Anonymous even did hack the PSN, theyre just sticking up for Hotz. Yes, it does affect the millions of PS3 user out here, but if it isnt tackled, these exploitative corporations are gonna throw their weight around and give you a product with strings attached. They obviously want the pressure to be put onto Sony, for Sony to lose wads of cash and to lose reputation, but I think its for a just cause. Either way whether you support or hate Anonymous, you're doing what they want you to do.RoboDuckii

I really don't give 2 ***** about whether or not I have to pay for a system to be able to play video games and not be able to hack into it or mod it. I'm not a hacker I have better things to do with my life then become an annoying little pest with too much time to kill. Which are what "Hackers" are. I was hoping that kid who got sued would burn and I hope the little ***** that attacked Sony get caught and I hope they sue their ***** as well.

This is completely ridiculous. You can't go up against a Multi Billion doller company and expect to win. These kids are stupid. Someone will pay eventually and right now it's looking the people who don't give a **** about any of this like myself. We are the one's paying right now all because a bunch a pimple popping brats need attention.

It's not Anon. After Geohot and Sony settled out of court, they were happy. Geohot didn't get sued and Anon considered it a victory to the main objective. Someone else is doing this and using Anon as a scapegoat. With the 'Anon vs Sony' battle not far out of the news' eye, it would seem Anon would be the likely attacker. But when Anon attacks, they're one of the first to step foward. So far, Anon has denied this.

Everyone sticking up for them is so crazy. They are all hacking for the purpose of piracy, which is against the law. Sony have every right to sue Hotz as he is exposing the PS3 to the piracy market and a loss of millions and millions of dollars. Anonymous are not proving any kind of point, and you lot thinking they are are just as bad as they are. As a customer, you don't have the right to have influence on a business or their products.

From another thread:

IF any sort of external attacks was involved, then yes it's Anon. The group has no infrastructure and does'nt know it's own members, as such they're directly responsible. For every idealist there will be 10 trolls.

IF you for some reason think Sony is to blame for this you need to think harder. They're working hard to retain customer services and you should really be "thanking" the anonymous "freedom fighters" who are busy messing with consumers for the sake of the very same consumers' "rights".

Regardless, every single member and supporter of Anon is a terrible asshat.

an you really condone terrorist methods along with no self moderation for the sake a (dodgy) "moral" standpoint in regards to entertainment? So what are Anon doing when they're not messing with the likes of Sony? Trying to mass induce seizures on epileptics? Have they ever done anything good at all? Has there any been a noble intention behind any of their actions?

Of course not, then they'd have to collectively DDOS themselves to hell as well. They're very much like the anthropomorphic idea of cooperate evil they claim to be fighting, except they intend to remain faceless due to their dubious methods and the fact that bravery, while normally a positive attribute, is very hard to maintain when not assured 100% safety.

Why don't you DDOS all of China till they release Ai Weiwei? If he's still alive that is.....

Why don't you DDOS MS till they drop the XBL fee? One would think it'd be massive insult that they convinced the average consumer that it's actually justified.

Anon takes action in a variety of ways ranging from imposing the "V for Vendetta" mentality on themselves to trolling to vigilantism to downright cruelty.

That's what you get when your organization has no infrastructure, your ideals end up meaning nothing.

Filthybastrd

That pretty much sums up how I feel about it, too.

The fact that PSN has been down for days is pissing me off. Let me tell you something too in regards to the whole Hotz vs. Sony thing. Hotz didn't do anything wrong till he put his PS3 exploit on the internet. If he kept it to himself, there wouldn't be a problem. But he decided to publish his hack all over the internet. That alone makes him in the wrong and Sony had every right to go after him. It's their product. They made it. They have every right to protect their product. Anonymous supporting Hotz puts them in the wrong too. This attack on PSN does not help Anonymous's name at all. They want to be for the consumer. Well they pissed off a ton of people. They can deny any involvement all they want but until an actual explanation puts them in the clear, they will be considered the culprit of this whole crap. Personally, I'm pissed about it. I wouldn't mind a day or 2 of PSN being down but its been longer than that.

People who defend Anon are either members themselves or got family and friends in Anon. No people in their right minds would support them.