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Netflix shares tumble 19% as subscribers left after the price hike. I guess I wasn't the only one leaving Netflix.
I am glad after hearing this news. Not only did they jack the price up 60%, they are gonna be losing starz in their online streaming.
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But they are losing Starz becuase Stars wants to negotiate for more money!!! So Netflix would have to pay Starz more money. Netflix is not going to just eat those costs AND keep Starz so you can continue to get a free (or at least heavily discounted) lunch. Netflix already lost Criterion collection because of licensing costs. I doubt Starz will be the end of it either, all of these studios will want to renegotiate for whoever will give them the most money. At $7.99 there's litereally no way Netflix or any other company can afford to legitimately offer up *ALL* the content people want to see, the studios would rather protect their DVD and blu-ray markets than to give away to Netflix (additionally they can seek out other streaming partnerships, or just stream the content themselves). Obviously Netflix has to find the balance between what content deals they can negotiate, what ones they can do without, and when/where they have to raise costs to meet those increased fees. It's the same deal when you hear about cable providers increasing rates because ESPN demanded higher licensing fees, there's always a bit of gamesmanship where the content provider and the cable company blame each other for who is responsible for what is always going to be increased pricing.
To be honest Netflix is still REDICULOUSLY cheap for 7.99 for just streaming, and $16 for both streaming and physical media. There's no way even that pricing can be sustained IMO. The movie studios are going to start playing hardball. Why would they give away all their film properties for PEANUTS????
Losing Starz is a huge hit for the streaming customers. When I had netflix, mostly all the "newer" released movies happend to be on Starz. Their streaming selection is small and dated and I don't think it is worth the $7.99 price tag. I believe the licensing fees went up but I don't think netflix had to raise their prices up 60% on me. They thought they could still make huge profits and still believed the lost of customers will compensate the huge profits but that wasn't the case as many left them and stocks fell. I don't see how netflix is ridiculously cheap at $16 when there are just a hand full of movies that I want to see a month and when red box are everywhere around me and charge $1 to rent. I have rented from amazon on demand when they had lot of their new release movies for only $1.99. Even vudu has deals. I am more into new released movies so the netflix streaming doesn't interest me too much and I rent like 3 or 4 new released movies on redbox a month so that is the better option for me.
$7.99 is cheap anyway you slice it, but losing Starz is indeed a hit because it's just another major studio that will not be on Netflix. Losing the streaming of Criterion Collection DVD's/Blu'rays to Hulu+ was more bothersome to me because those costs alot more money to buy - and it would be nice to be able to watch alot of them via streaming (since independent/foreign fimls are always more "hit or miss" to me, but I still love watching them). $16 may no longer be such an amazing bargain, but when you factor in the costs of doing business (shipping both ways to and from customer) if you rent just a few films a month then you are probably a MONEY LOSER for them - particularly under the old $7.99 for EVERYTHING plan. The breakeven point for them under that plan could only be like a handful of rentals at most. That's probably why they want to separate the streaming customers from the "physical media" customers. You yourself are probably burning more in gas and personal time driving/subway to redbox than you would just sticking with Netflix at the higher price. Under the old $7.99 plan they were probably counting on having millions of customers subscribe, and then NOT rent movies, because when you look at the business model that's the only way it works for profitability at such a low price point.
Anyway I'm not a complete Netflix worshipper, and I will always look at adding or switching to other options. They have pleanty of faults in their service (not enough HD, they don't always use the best quality on old classic movies compared what I see on blu-ray DVD, now some films are disappearing and moving to other services, etc). But at $7.99 for streaming it's still a steal to me, just for old TV episodes and random films not yet available on blu-ray it's worth it. I guess because I usually buy my blu-rays I don't really care about the ability to do the physical rental, for that reason the $7.99 streaming plan remains a bargain for what you get. I actually never used the disc rental anyway, I was 100% streaming before the switch anyway.
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