I'm getting SICK and TIRED of fps games

Seriously, how much time and talent is wasted on another fps game that is 99.99% similar to its predecessor you think? So much good could be used for creating new games! Oh look, the new MoH is out, lets shoot another 1000 guys or so and play MP that's probably the same like all those other shooters! It's so much fun!

The same concept is recycled over and over. Aren't you guys getting bored of it, too?

no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

Yes.

But I still would like Killzone 4, if the campaign was through the eyes of the Helghast (preferably Hakha) and you get to kill Rico at the end that is.

no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

AmnesiaHaze

You can't deny that devs focus so much on shooters simply for $. Like I said, the same idea is recycled over and over, which is war and simply killing people. Of course I play more genres, but I really think it's a pity they don't use their talent for different games for once instead of shooters.

It's because first person shooters are a safe gamble. No matter how crappy a FPS is it WILL sell. People will complain, but they'll still buy it (even if they trade it it a week later) Those first day-week sales are enough for most companies to justify FPS games. Look at the last few Medal of Honor games, people complain they're bad, but they still sold well enough for sequels.

Most developers can't afford to risk new ideas right now because of how hard it is to break even. It's easier to just trod out another sequel or a FPS since they're easy pick up and play games, especially with online multiplayer (no matter how broken it may be) and there's also the DLC (voluntary) ball and chain which forever keeps first person shooters on top.

Seriously, how much time and talent is wasted on another fps game that is 99.99% similar to its predecessor you think? So much good could be used for creating new games! Oh look, the new MoH is out, lets shoot another 1000 guys or so and play MP that's probably the same like all those other shooters! It's so much fun!

The same concept is recycled over and over. Aren't you guys getting bored of it, too?

DiamondSlicer

But does all that justify that the FPS money milking business is creating those games for those reasons? It's not about being secure about your position in the game industry, it's first and foremost about money. They don't care about anything else but sales.

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no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

DiamondSlicer

You can't deny that devs focus so much on shooters simply for $. Like I said, the same idea is recycled over and over, which is war and simply killing people. Of course I play more genres, but I really think it's a pity they don't use their talent for different games for once instead of shooters.

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no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

DiamondSlicer

You can't deny that devs focus so much on shooters simply for $. Like I said, the same idea is recycled over and over, which is war and simply killing people. Of course I play more genres, but I really think it's a pity they don't use their talent for different games for once instead of shooters.

And you can't deny that it's not up to the devs as to what game they make, and what goes in it. The publishers have their grubby, pudgy hands in everything. I'm with Amnesia, play another genre for a while. I mix my games up so that I never play more than 2 in one genre in a row.

You make it sound as if there's no other choice out there for gaming... Only you can prevent forest fires... Just don't buy them. Play a racing game, strategy game, platformer... "SingStar"... there are TONS of different genres...

Play different genres? :?

You make it sound as if there's no other choice out there for gaming... Only you can prevent forest fires... Just don't buy them. Play a racing game, strategy game, platformer... "SingStar"... there are TONS of different genres...

MonkeySpot

Just switch over to a different game. i can say i do grow tired of doing the same thing cod wise but thats all my friends play so i wanna still beable to chill with my friends.

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You make it sound as if there's no other choice out there for gaming... Only you can prevent forest fires... Just don't buy them. Play a racing game, strategy game, platformer... "SingStar"... there are TONS of different genres...

AmnesiaHaze

*LARFS!!!*

:lol:

I'm picturing that scene from "The Deer Hunter" - "Diddi-MOW! Diddi-MOW! You Sing ABBA!!! 'Waterloo'! Diddi-MOW!!!"

:lol:

Don't play them then. Gee, that was so hard, wasn't it?

and what's pathetic is that most (COD, MOH) don't take that much effort developing : you create the maps, put some items on it, create the mobs and their AI (which is not that good, just the number is challenging enough), put some textures, develop the weapons for the player character (which is quite always the same) : DONE

I'm completely worn out when it comes to military shooters, but I welcome games like Rage (despite its problems).

I kind of agree with you on the whole FPS thing. I was not a big first person shooter fan myself until I played Halo and also when I discovered a thing called zombies on Call Of Duty World at War and I have been hooked on killing zombies every since then but I digress. America has gone shooter crazy and a lot of people here in the states love shooters so developers develop for what the majority wants. Me personally I prefer beat em ups and RPGs.

I haven't bought a shooter in awhile. And Aside from Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Halo, I don't really hear about other shooters being a huge sucsess anymore.

Then don't play them.

Since I play 90% of the entire industry output. This genre is not one I can tire of. Since I play platformers/Rail shooters/Puzzle/RPG/fighting games/Driving/Third person shooters/Dungeon crawls/RTS/Shoot them ups etc. And then play a first person shooter.

out of 26 geanres, I play 20 of them. Since FPS is only 1 of many genres. I don't get sick and tired of any 1 genre.

Since the vast majority of games is 12yrs-22 years. Many of them are into FPS which is why Call of Duty sells millions of copy's each year. I just can't understand how people can play On-line over and over again. Then I would get fed up if I did that.

So if you don't like FPS games try a game like Rayman legends or a game other than a FPS. You might like the new discovery.

I have to agree that there are too many of them on the market, however, this wouldn't be the the issue if those titles were of a good quality and not just the random military shooters.

Dishonored and Bioshock come to mind as something to enjoy, we need more FPS in that caliber.

Really...

Assassins Creed 3, New Super Mario Bros U, hopefully Ninja Gaiden 3: razers edge will be good, Tales of graces F, Xenoblade, the Last story, FFXIII-2, Mass Effect 3, Witcher 2, Need for Speed Most wanted, Forza Horizon, Fable the Journey, Kingdoms Of Amular, Resident Evil Revalations, Soul Calibur 5, Dead or Alive 5, Tekken Tag 2, Diablo III, Darksiders II, and I'm going to throw in Dishonored because while its in First Person, I don't classify it much as a shooter.

Those don't look like shooters to me and those are all the games I just thought up of off the top of my head, many I have played this year

While yes, FPS games come out frequently, some are still good. But doesn't that make you appreciate the others more.

I've been bored sick of shooters since the end of the PS2 generation. At least back then you got a decent campaign - now it's just some crappy training mode for the online. It wouldn't bother me if I could just play games from other genres, but that whole "Call of Duty sold a gazillion copies" thing has made it mandatory for all games regardless of genre to have some damned online component and - whenever possible - be turned into quasi-shooters to get a slice of those Call of Duty sales.

That's the main reason I have zero interest in a next gen console.

I only play like 1 or 2 FPS a year. The last FPS I bought was R3. Ive played a few downloadable FPS like Gotham City Imposers and what ever. But I dont find alot of FPS exciting, for example Bordelands 2, game looks like ass to me. COD or COD like FPS bore me, Dishonored doesnt look interesting. Ironically, I had no interest in Bioshock 1 or 2, but Im hyped for Infinite.

FPS are a hit or a miss for me. Didnt care for Crysis 1 or 2, but Im excited for 3. I played Farcry 2 for like 2 hours and hated it, but Im hyped for Farcry 3.

Seriously, how much time and talent is wasted on another fps game that is 99.99% similar to its predecessor you think? So much good could be used for creating new games! Oh look, the new MoH is out, lets shoot another 1000 guys or so and play MP that's probably the same like all those other shooters! It's so much fun!

The same concept is recycled over and over. Aren't you guys getting bored of it, too?

DiamondSlicer

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Seriously, how much time and talent is wasted on another fps game that is 99.99% similar to its predecessor you think? So much good could be used for creating new games! Oh look, the new MoH is out, lets shoot another 1000 guys or so and play MP that's probably the same like all those other shooters! It's so much fun!

The same concept is recycled over and over. Aren't you guys getting bored of it, too?

jsmoke03

People see what they want to see I guess.

I just wanted to make clear that I started this topic to mostly start a discussion about the fact that shooters are getting overhyped the last few years while others are left in the shadows because of it. So for the people saying 'switch genres' or for the people who are about to; don't bother. There is a reason I put that option in the poll as well. Jeez.

So no "play something else". I would rather see an argument and something that adds something to this topic instead of seeing people say the same thing.

Dishonored and Bioshock come to mind as something to enjoy, we need more FPS in that caliber.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. FPS is not a bad genre for that matter if you are talking about the ones that don't have war in it; killing bad old Germans, assassinating middle-eastern dictators and stopping terrorist plots, as example. We need to get over that. It's getting old.

I just wanted to make clear that I started this topic to mostly start a discussion about the fact that shooters are getting overhyped the last few years while others are left in the shadows because of it. DiamondSlicer

Sorry, but you're confusing your subjective opinion with objective fact. Don't do that.

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I just wanted to make clear that I started this topic to mostly start a discussion about the fact that shooters are getting overhyped the last few years while others are left in the shadows because of it. worlock77

Sorry, but you're confusing your subjective opinion with objective fact. Don't do that.

So you're saying that I'm wrong by saying other games are overshadowed at the time these shooters come out? It's more fact than opinion. Other games are mostly cast aside at the time of the release, or same time period, of that specific shooter. While those get the hype, games more deserving of that hype get little or none at all.

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I just wanted to make clear that I started this topic to mostly start a discussion about the fact that shooters are getting overhyped the last few years while others are left in the shadows because of it. DiamondSlicer

Sorry, but you're confusing your subjective opinion with objective fact. Don't do that.

So you're saying that I'm wrong by saying other games are overshadowed at the time these shooters come out? It's more fact than opinion. Other games are mostly cast aside at the time of the release, or same time period, of that specific shooter. While those get the hype, games more deserving of that hype get little or none at all.

I'm not really sure what you're tkaling about. I see tons of hype for games outside of shooters

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I just wanted to make clear that I started this topic to mostly start a discussion about the fact that shooters are getting overhyped the last few years while others are left in the shadows because of it. DiamondSlicer

Sorry, but you're confusing your subjective opinion with objective fact. Don't do that.

So you're saying that I'm wrong by saying other games are overshadowed at the time these shooters come out? It's more fact than opinion. Other games are mostly cast aside at the time of the release, or same time period, of that specific shooter. While those get the hype, games more deserving of that hype get little or none at all.

Whether I agree or not is irrelevant, it's still just opinion.

Seriously, how much time and talent is wasted on another fps game that is 99.99% similar to its predecessor you think? So much good could be used for creating new games! Oh look, the new MoH is out, lets shoot another 1000 guys or so and play MP that's probably the same like all those other shooters! It's so much fun!

The same concept is recycled over and over. Aren't you guys getting bored of it, too?

DiamondSlicer

I was getting bored in 2007. When 90% of the PS3 games were FPS'ers. Oblivion was a godsend at that time :lol:

One thing I don't understand is this "Call Of Duty mind spell" people seem to easily fall for like drooling zombies. When they've been essentially playing modified versions of Call Of Duty 4 with every release. FOR YEARS. Even down to the same broken online mode and (shortened even further) single player campaigns.

no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

AmnesiaHaze

That problem is that there are too many FPS games being made. What happened to all the 3D platforming adventure games & JRPG's etc etc? We have seen less and less of those genres this generation.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

no , because i play also other games , i recommend you to play different games - problem solved

Vickman178

That problem is that there are too many FPS games being made. What happened to all the 3D platforming adventure games & JRPG's etc etc? We have seen less and less of those genres this generation.

Unfortunately it's because of the over population of bro gamers and little kids thinking shooters are cool. Essentially the mainstream. Why make a game like Tales when it sells under 1 million when we could make a game like CoD that could sell 6 million. I have nothing against CoD or the likes, they can be fun time to time, I just don't see how it gets rehashed every single year without a break and sells more and more each time. I would love for a ton of good quality platformers and jrpgs to come back. But NIS isn't doing the genre any favors by releasing pure crap and making people think that's what a jrpg is. I think Xenoblade and tales of graces did rather well, so hopefully that will fuel some more proper jrpgs to be released. As for platformers, we will probobly still have to look to Nintendo for that.

Thankfully, western RPGs and Action Adventure games are still kicking. Racing is doing good as Forza and NFS doing good this year. I am looking foward to Bioshock Infinite, a proper FPS.

But does all that justify that the FPS money milking business is creating those games for those reasons? It's not about being secure about your position in the game industry, it's first and foremost about money. They don't care about anything else but sales.

DiamondSlicer

First Person Shooters are popular and developers want in on the pie. The same thing happened in the eighties with platformers and in the nineties with fighting games. It is not like there are not other games in different genre's. This year belongs to fighters hands down. You have games like Soul Calibur 5, Skullgirls, Blazblue, Street Fighter X Tekken, Persona 4: Arena, Mortal Kombat for Vita, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, and Dead or Alive 5.

Family games have also picked up in steam with titles such as Ratchet and Clank Full Frontal Assault, Little Big Planet Karting, Sly 4, and PlayStation All Stars.

What about all the more creative games like Papo and Yo, Dyad, Journey, and the Unfinished Swan?

I really do not see the problem with having a lot of shooters. There are other types of games out there as well, so what difference does it make?

I'm more annoyed by the lack of innovation. But hey, sometimes a certain forumula really works. For example, I think the CODish things that Halo 4 is adapting really does work. And it'll be cool to see how it plays out in the game. But I like them for the most part.

i'm not tired of shooters.