Important question about ps3 hardare and Assassins Creed

I really want to get the animus edition of ACR, but its not coming to America. I figured I would ship it from Ebay, so I checked out the price of AC:B's Codex edition (160 dollars? Isn't 100 euros 140 dollars?) and at the end it would say AU or PAL. But I thought that PS3 was region free. Would those work on an american ps3?

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PS3 is region free and it should work, I'm not 100% sure though.

I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

hmm... anyone else?

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I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

blueboxdoctor

[QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

funsohng

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

blueboxdoctor

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

^^^ Really? I'll have to try out the difference.

Back on topic anyone about the Animus edition content being on disc?

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

I know I have 2 Within Temptation live concert DVDs in PAL format, and they only play on my computer. I assumed I'd be fine since a selling feature for the ps3 was that it can play discs from any region, but apparently that's not fully true.

blueboxdoctor

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

Well even if it wasn't "region locked", DVD's in North of America use a different video signal than Europe. So they wouldn't be compatible.

-North America uses 480P NTSC standard
-Europe uses PAL standard which is like 576i or something...also believe they are different refresh rate standards.

Basically US NTSC TV's aren't equipped to process European PAL signals, and vice versa. For example, even if you tried to play a European PS3 game on a U.S SDTV it likely would *NOT* work. You would get a blank screen. Not because of the region protection (because there is none on the blu-ray), but because your TV wouldn't interpret the PAL signal for the PAL edition of the game.

With HDTV, 1080P is standard both in Europe and North America. Since there is no region protection, it *SHOULD* work as long as you are playing at 1080P. But there's always a few examples of things not working. Before paying some crazy amount like $150 for a game that can otherwise be had for $29, I'd definitely want to verify LOL.

Also I have to disagree about blu-ray's not looking better. Trust me, once you start watching some of the best blu-ray's - going back to DVD editions becomes unwatchable. The only DVD's I can bear to watch are when the blu-ray version of the film hasn't been released yet!!! Last week I just wached Deer Hunter DVD, and my god the picture quality was TERRIBLE, it needs a blu-ray release bad. Then I watched Taxi Driver, and was blown away by how good it looks on blu-ray compared to the old DVD editions.

^^^ Really? I'll have to try out the difference.

Back on topic anyone about the Animus edition content being on disc?

chubbychowder22

Anyone care to answer that?

Was the codex edition for brotherhood's in game DLC on disc?

[QUOTE="chubbychowder22"]

^^^ Really? I'll have to try out the difference.

Back on topic anyone about the Animus edition content being on disc?

chubbychowder22

Anyone care to answer that?

Was the codex edition for brotherhood's in game DLC on disc?

Can I just get an answer? Please?

[QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] DVD drive is region locked, blu-ray drive isn't for PS3.funsohng

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

When I watch DVD's on my 60" HD Panasonic Viera I use a DVD player with an up-converter, so maybe that's why I don't see much of a difference. I watched Prince of Persia in Bluray and standard DVD on it (bluray through ps3 and DVD through upconverter DVD player), and really the looked pretty similar (I used this movie because it's a new disney movie and they don't skimp on their equipment). Plus, most movies until recently aren't shot in HD, so you're not always getting a true HD movie on your bluray disc. I think it was Castaway that actually still had the dropouts from the film, but yet the person who was showing it to me wouldn't stop raving about it being on bluray.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

Well then, that's kind of annoying. You'd think it wouldn't be that much harder to have added it for DVD as well. I'm not big into bluray since it's more $ than a standard DVD and I havn't seen one that looks that much better than a DVD, if any better at all.

blueboxdoctor

When I watch DVD's on my 60" HD Panasonic Viera I use a DVD player with an up-converter, so maybe that's why I don't see much of a difference. I watched Prince of Persia in Bluray and standard DVD on it (bluray through ps3 and DVD through upconverter DVD player), and really the looked pretty similar (I used this movie because it's a new disney movie and they don't skimp on their equipment). Plus, most movies until recently aren't shot in HD, so you're not always getting a true HD movie on your bluray disc. I think it was Castaway that actually still had the dropouts from the film, but yet the person who was showing it to me wouldn't stop raving about it being on bluray.

Movies not shot digitally are shot in FILM, Film is not limited by HD or SD. It theoretically has infinite resolution - or at least much higher than 1080P (and certainly 480P that DVD's are encoded at). Obviously there are other factors going into play that give old movies away as being "old" (quality and speed of the lens, fast autofocus vs manual focus, lighting, set design, costume design and fashion of the time, CGI/special effects). But there's plenty of classic movies that have received absolutely INCREDIBLE transfers to blu-ray that look like they could have been filmed yesterday.

If you don't think old movies were "shot in HD", I recommend you go get 2001 Space Odyssey right now. Go get Taxi Driver. Raging Bull. Casino. I'm looking forward to getting other old "epics" like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur. Compare those films to their DVD counterparts. It's so far apart it's actually crazy to say there are no differences. There's dozens of old movies that are 5 star video on blu-ray.

Space Odyssey is one of only few movies ever shot with 70MM cameras, "digital" cameras today are using the same sensor size as 35MM Film(which became the standard due to the expense of 70MM). But even 35MM film can look pristine in HD, as I noted above the resolution of film is not limited by "SD" or "HD". What determins what goes on the disc has more to do with the condition and look of the original film, the technology used to transfer it, and the job the studio does encoding/compressing it to it's digital formwat.

[QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] actually difference is staggering if you have a big HD TV2Chalupas

When I watch DVD's on my 60" HD Panasonic Viera I use a DVD player with an up-converter, so maybe that's why I don't see much of a difference. I watched Prince of Persia in Bluray and standard DVD on it (bluray through ps3 and DVD through upconverter DVD player), and really the looked pretty similar (I used this movie because it's a new disney movie and they don't skimp on their equipment). Plus, most movies until recently aren't shot in HD, so you're not always getting a true HD movie on your bluray disc. I think it was Castaway that actually still had the dropouts from the film, but yet the person who was showing it to me wouldn't stop raving about it being on bluray.

Movies not shot digitally are shot in FILM, Film is not limited by HD or SD. It theoretically has infinite resolution - or at least much higher than 1080P (and certainly 480P that DVD's are encoded at). Obviously there are other factors going into play that give old movies away as being "old" (quality and speed of the lens, fast autofocus vs manual focus, lighting, set design, costume design and fashion of the time, CGI/special effects). But there's plenty of classic movies that have received absolutely INCREDIBLE transfers to blu-ray that look like they could have been filmed yesterday.

If you don't think old movies were "shot in HD", I recommend you go get 2001 Space Odyssey right now. Go get Taxi Driver. Raging Bull. Casino. I'm looking forward to getting other old "epics" like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur. Compare those films to their DVD counterparts. It's so far apart it's actually crazy to say there are no differences. There's dozens of old movies that are 5 star video on blu-ray.

Space Odyssey is one of only few movies ever shot with 70MM cameras, "digital" cameras today are using the same sensor size as 35MM Film(which became the standard due to the expense of 70MM). But even 35MM film can look pristine in HD, as I noted above the resolution of film is not limited by "SD" or "HD". What determins what goes on the disc has more to do with the condition and look of the original film, the technology used to transfer it, and the job the studio does encoding/compressing it to it's digital formwat.

Well to each their own I suppose. If I'm going to get into 2001 a space odyssey I'll read the far superior book again (Stanley Kubrick is far too over rated, just look at how he ruined a clockwork orange). I'm not a big fan of any of the movies you listed, but whatever. If bluray was cheaper I'd go for it, but I can't see the prices being justified just because it's in a blue box and says bluray. This stuff's so mass produced it's only expensive because of it's name. I'm not putting down bluray, it's great since you can store a lot more data on it than a standard DVD, I just havn't made the leap over to it yet, but like most things I probably will eventually.

As for the original topic of this thread, I suggest making a new thread, sorry for sort of ruining this one for you.

I'll make the OP happy and awswer his question LOL

The Codex edition has codes for the DLC, it's not on disc. You will also need a EU PSN account to access it, won't work with U.S. accounts.

The later version of the game, the DaVinci edition, DOES have the DLC on the disc. But that's another thing that's EU exclusive. I'm waiting for something like this "complete" or DaVinci edition to come to the U.S personally.

I'll make the OP happy and awswer his question LOL

The Codex edition has codes for the DLC, it's not on disc. You will also need a EU PSN account to access it, won't work with U.S. accounts.

The later version of the game, the DaVinci edition, DOES have the DLC on the disc. But that's another thing that's EU exclusive. I'm waiting for something like this "complete" or DaVinci edition to come to the U.S personally.

2Chalupas

Thank you!

So, the Da Vinci edition eh? I wonder if the new version of the Da Vinci Edition will come with the encyclopedia...

Did the Da Vinci edition come out before Christmas?

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

[QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

When I watch DVD's on my 60" HD Panasonic Viera I use a DVD player with an up-converter, so maybe that's why I don't see much of a difference. I watched Prince of Persia in Bluray and standard DVD on it (bluray through ps3 and DVD through upconverter DVD player), and really the looked pretty similar (I used this movie because it's a new disney movie and they don't skimp on their equipment). Plus, most movies until recently aren't shot in HD, so you're not always getting a true HD movie on your bluray disc. I think it was Castaway that actually still had the dropouts from the film, but yet the person who was showing it to me wouldn't stop raving about it being on bluray.

blueboxdoctor

Movies not shot digitally are shot in FILM, Film is not limited by HD or SD. It theoretically has infinite resolution - or at least much higher than 1080P (and certainly 480P that DVD's are encoded at). Obviously there are other factors going into play that give old movies away as being "old" (quality and speed of the lens, fast autofocus vs manual focus, lighting, set design, costume design and fashion of the time, CGI/special effects). But there's plenty of classic movies that have received absolutely INCREDIBLE transfers to blu-ray that look like they could have been filmed yesterday.

If you don't think old movies were "shot in HD", I recommend you go get 2001 Space Odyssey right now. Go get Taxi Driver. Raging Bull. Casino. I'm looking forward to getting other old "epics" like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur. Compare those films to their DVD counterparts. It's so far apart it's actually crazy to say there are no differences. There's dozens of old movies that are 5 star video on blu-ray.

Space Odyssey is one of only few movies ever shot with 70MM cameras, "digital" cameras today are using the same sensor size as 35MM Film(which became the standard due to the expense of 70MM). But even 35MM film can look pristine in HD, as I noted above the resolution of film is not limited by "SD" or "HD". What determins what goes on the disc has more to do with the condition and look of the original film, the technology used to transfer it, and the job the studio does encoding/compressing it to it's digital formwat.

Well to each their own I suppose. If I'm going to get into 2001 a space odyssey I'll read the far superior book again (Stanley Kubrick is far too over rated, just look at how he ruined a clockwork orange). I'm not a big fan of any of the movies you listed, but whatever. If bluray was cheaper I'd go for it, but I can't see the prices being justified just because it's in a blue box and says bluray. This stuff's so mass produced it's only expensive because of it's name. I'm not putting down bluray, it's great since you can store a lot more data on it than a standard DVD, I just havn't made the leap over to it yet, but like most things I probably will eventually.

As for the original topic of this thread, I suggest making a new thread, sorry for sort of ruining this one for you.

I wasn't listing those as necessarily the best movies (although Taxi Driver and Casino are 2 of my favorite DeNiro films). Those are just some prime examples of older films that have the biggest difference between their old DVD transfer, and their Blu-Ray release. Most of them probably got brand new 4K or 8K digitization just for blu-ray. Obviously you can look into your own favorite movies and see if they received high quality transfers. There's dozens (if not hundreds) of worthy classic films that got top rated transfers. Not every film gets a pristine transfer just like in the DVD days alot of movies looked so bad they could have been dubbed from VHS tape. 2001 just happens to be one of the most impressive looking "classic" films on blu-ray because it was shot in 70MM film (whereas even today's movies are usually shot in 35MM - regardless of film or digital todays movies are only shot in 35MM) When we get one of the rare movies shot in 70MM a good transfer really does make full use of the blu-ray format.

Anyway, I agree it doesn't always make sense how much Blu-Ray's cost, sometimes it can be difference between $20(blu-ray) or $5 (DVD). Even knowing a blu-ray is 99.99% of the time going to be superior, $20 is too much for me as well. However I've been keeping an eye out for sales where I can get blu-rays for between $5 and $10. Check a place like DVD2Blu where you can trade your DVD's and get blu-rays for mostly $4.95 each with free shipping (they have a TERRIBLE selection overall, but that's where I got Space Odyssey for $4.95 and a few other new and old movies just for the hell of it - I probably took about 25 off of their list). Also I've found that my local public library has an entire section of blu-rays. So with that knowledge there is practically no reason for me to watch an inferior DVD ever again. :) The only DVD's I watch are when the movie hasn't been out yet on blu-ray.

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

I'll make the OP happy and awswer his question LOL

The Codex edition has codes for the DLC, it's not on disc. You will also need a EU PSN account to access it, won't work with U.S. accounts.

The later version of the game, the DaVinci edition, DOES have the DLC on the disc. But that's another thing that's EU exclusive. I'm waiting for something like this "complete" or DaVinci edition to come to the U.S personally.

chubbychowder22

Thank you!

So, the Da Vinci edition eh? I wonder if the new version of the Da Vinci Edition will come with the encyclopedia...

Did the Da Vinci edition come out before Christmas?

I'm pretty sure the Da Vinci edition is just a repackaging of the game in a regular case, but with the DLC and slightly different artwork. As far as I know they're been no announcement of it yet for U.S. I think they did the same thing with Assassin's Creed 2, wth a later edition that came with DLC. It's the same thing as some other games that get "Game of the Year Edition" or "Ultimate Edition".

[QUOTE="blueboxdoctor"]

[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]

Movies not shot digitally are shot in FILM, Film is not limited by HD or SD. It theoretically has infinite resolution - or at least much higher than 1080P (and certainly 480P that DVD's are encoded at). Obviously there are other factors going into play that give old movies away as being "old" (quality and speed of the lens, fast autofocus vs manual focus, lighting, set design, costume design and fashion of the time, CGI/special effects). But there's plenty of classic movies that have received absolutely INCREDIBLE transfers to blu-ray that look like they could have been filmed yesterday.

If you don't think old movies were "shot in HD", I recommend you go get 2001 Space Odyssey right now. Go get Taxi Driver. Raging Bull. Casino. I'm looking forward to getting other old "epics" like Lawrence of Arabia or Ben Hur. Compare those films to their DVD counterparts. It's so far apart it's actually crazy to say there are no differences. There's dozens of old movies that are 5 star video on blu-ray.

Space Odyssey is one of only few movies ever shot with 70MM cameras, "digital" cameras today are using the same sensor size as 35MM Film(which became the standard due to the expense of 70MM). But even 35MM film can look pristine in HD, as I noted above the resolution of film is not limited by "SD" or "HD". What determins what goes on the disc has more to do with the condition and look of the original film, the technology used to transfer it, and the job the studio does encoding/compressing it to it's digital formwat.

2Chalupas

Well to each their own I suppose. If I'm going to get into 2001 a space odyssey I'll read the far superior book again (Stanley Kubrick is far too over rated, just look at how he ruined a clockwork orange). I'm not a big fan of any of the movies you listed, but whatever. If bluray was cheaper I'd go for it, but I can't see the prices being justified just because it's in a blue box and says bluray. This stuff's so mass produced it's only expensive because of it's name. I'm not putting down bluray, it's great since you can store a lot more data on it than a standard DVD, I just havn't made the leap over to it yet, but like most things I probably will eventually.

As for the original topic of this thread, I suggest making a new thread, sorry for sort of ruining this one for you.

I wasn't listing those as necessarily the best movies (although Taxi Driver and Casino are 2 of my favorite DeNiro films). Those are just some prime examples of older films that have the biggest difference between their old DVD transfer, and their Blu-Ray release. Most of them probably got brand new 4K or 8K digitization just for blu-ray. Obviously you can look into your own favorite movies and see if they received high quality transfers. There's dozens (if not hundreds) of worthy classic films that got top rated transfers. Not every film gets a pristine transfer just like in the DVD days alot of movies looked so bad they could have been dubbed from VHS tape. 2001 just happens to be one of the most impressive looking "classic" films on blu-ray because it was shot in 70MM film (whereas even today's movies are usually shot in 35MM - regardless of film or digital todays movies are only shot in 35MM) When we get one of the rare movies shot in 70MM a good transfer really does make full use of the blu-ray format.

Anyway, I agree it doesn't always make sense how much Blu-Ray's cost, sometimes it can be difference between $20(blu-ray) or $5 (DVD). Even knowing a blu-ray is 99.99% of the time going to be superior, $20 is too much for me as well. However I've been keeping an eye out for sales where I can get blu-rays for between $5 and $10. Check a place like DVD2Blu where you can trade your DVD's and get blu-rays for mostly $4.95 each with free shipping (they have a TERRIBLE selection overall, but that's where I got Space Odyssey for $4.95 and a few other new and old movies just for he hell of it - I probably took about 25 off of their list). Also I've found that my local public library has an entire section of blu-rays. So with that knowledge there is practically no reason for me to watch an inferior DVD ever again. :) The only DVD's I watch are when the movie hasn't been out yet on blu-ray.

True enough, some movies are very nicely restored. I watched some old black and white moves in bluray and it was pretty great. If I can find some at good prices I'll give bluray a proper try. Though, some DVD's are way overpriced, like old doctor who's that the BBC put on DVD, it's like $30 to $35 for one DVD, and it's not always restored either. I may check half.com for some blurays, since I do want to watch the new series of doctor who in HD. On Demand had them up, but apparently their bandwith for on demand is horrible, so it would pixelize in parts, but sure looked really good.