Is Sony Arrogant?

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#1 leebec
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This is an interview that Gamerbiz did with Sony UK's Managing Director. Best bit has to be where he is asked about why the console is more expensive in the UK than the rest of Europe. Pay particular attention to the third paragraph of his answer....

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23722

and this one's a gem:

But GBP 425 seems like an odd number. Did you think about pricing the PS3 at GBP 399 which would have a different feel to it, psychologically?

No. We did consider GBP 429, but we wanted to get the best for the consumer.

:?:?:?

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#2 spliffchillum
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Of course they are.. look at all the format's they make that are closed.. Minidisk.. Memory Stick Pros.. I mean come on.. They have the "It's my way or the highway" theory going for them..

 

but on the flipside.. Microsoft is a bully.. crashing the France Launch.. Microsoft's philosophy is to use it's vast money reserves to win this console war.. Microsoft buys it's way through life.. If you cant see it, then you need to open your eyes.

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#4 fuman3
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Its a business ok course. Regardless of how much they sell it for there still loosing money on each unit right now. Unless they sell it now for 900 us dollars they have to wait about 3 to 4 years before they make any profits on the console itself.

 

 

 

 

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Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. xXSecksXx
Took the words right out of my mouth.
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#6 leebec
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Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. xXSecksXx
Oh for God Sake. Grow up. The thread was meant to be a discussion about how you feel Sony is regarding its customers. Spliffchillum provided quite a balanced respose I thought. I am no-one's fanboy, but surely that does not excuse Sony's MD for some of his comments.
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#7 davez82
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man this thread is arrogant, dont think your some bigshot just cause you can point out a companies arrogance, stop crying
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#8 yanks1112
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You guys need to stop listening to what the Sony execs are saying and let the hardware and games speak for themselves.

I, for one, love my PS3 and I could care less if a company is arrogant. Let's get this forum back to what it's really about, the PS3. Not Sony in general.

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Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. xXSecksXx
On that note, one could say PS3 fanboys are cuz they think theirs is the greatest & should win without any resistance just cuz it's the PS3. Give it a rest already.
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Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. xXSecksXx
But... it didn't come out first, so that argument is pointless. Its like saying "OS X is sooo much better, if it came out first, no one would've bought Windows 95." Don't fault Microsoft for betting that a year headstart would be of greater benefit than making the most technologically capable (and most expensive) machine.
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But... it didn't come out first, so that argument is pointless. Its like saying "OS X is sooo much better, if it came out first, no one would've bought Windows 95." Don't fault Microsoft for betting that a year headstart would be of greater benefit than making the most technologically capable (and most expensive) machine.bballboy986

Well spoken.  Winning the console war is not about who has the meanest, or most advanced machine; Microsoft learned that last time around when the PS2 gave everyone else an ass whooping.

I used to be a Sony fanboy, converted from Nintendo (64) when I bought my PSone, but Microsoft completely won me over with the original Xbox, and they still have me convinced I prefer my 360 over a PS3.  They did not do that with hardware, they did that with great games, quality, and good customer service.  (and Xbox Live, of course.)  Of course, I kept my PS2 plugged in for MGS, FF, and all other great Sony exclusives, but with talk of MGS4, FFXIII, Assassin's Creed, and other titles going multiplatform, I think I am everyday less certain I'll buy a PS3. (In my opinion, losing exclusive titles shows lack of faith in Sony's console from developers and publishers.)

Sony has a rough road ahead of them to make it to the top once more.  More than simply getting the consoles out there, they need to re-establish some of the confidence publisher's had on the Play Station brand last time around, secure the exclusives they still have, and deliver quality service.  If Sony continues to build positive momentum off the Home and other announcements made during GDC, they will certainly come out on top.

As to the price of the PS3, consider this:  Sony is very likely considering a life-span longer than that of the PS2 for the PS3, probably around 6-7 years.  That taken into account, the price doesn't seem as much in the long run.  (That is if what they talked about in the previous years about extending the PS2's and its follower's life spans is still valid.)

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if you cant beat it, BUY IT, then BEAT IT. - billy gates

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#13 deadpool51
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Of course they are.. look at all the format's they make that are closed.. Minidisk.. Memory Stick Pros.. I mean come on.. They have the "It's my way or the highway" theory going for them..

 

but on the flipside.. Microsoft is a bully.. crashing the France Launch.. Microsoft's philosophy is to use it's vast money reserves to win this console war.. Microsoft buys it's way through life.. If you cant see it, then you need to open your eyes.

spliffchillum
yeah that my "my way or the highway"attitude made them the second largest electronics company in the world.
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#14 axes03
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[QUOTE="spliffchillum"]

Of course they are.. look at all the format's they make that are closed.. Minidisk.. Memory Stick Pros.. I mean come on.. They have the "It's my way or the highway" theory going for them..

 

but on the flipside.. Microsoft is a bully.. crashing the France Launch.. Microsoft's philosophy is to use it's vast money reserves to win this console war.. Microsoft buys it's way through life.. If you cant see it, then you need to open your eyes.

deadpool51

yeah that my "my way or the highway"attitude made them the second largest electronics company in the world.

......and thats the same reason why we have a overpriced handicapped handheld that cant even hold up to a dual screen frankenstein......right? UMDs anyone, talking about overpriced, hows that 600 dollar internet browser working out, and are you having fun when "teh AWESOMENESS" of bluetooth loses conncetion on you in the middle of a online resistence match and in virtua fighter......OH WAIT!!!! Vf5 doesnt have online, just LIKE EVERY DAWM PORT ON THE PS3!!!!!!!! tonyhawk or virtua tennis anyone.....oh wait!!!!! we would rather dance and watch "teh n3w spid3rman3 trailer in our sony br0v1a tv" in h0me!!!!!

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[QUOTE="axes03"]

......and thats the same reason why we have a overpriced handicapped handheld that cant even hold up to a dual screen frankenstein......right? UMDs anyone, talking about overpriced, hows that 600 dollar internet browser working out, and are you having fun when "teh AWESOMENESS" of bluetooth loses conncetion on you in the middle of a online resistence match and in virtua fighter......OH WAIT!!!! Vf5 doesnt have online, just LIKE EVERY DAWM PORT ON THE PS3!!!!!!!!

emitsu97

You must suffer from haedaches and constant bruises not being able to see 2" in front of your face.

Oh, and I didn't notice any hint of arrogance. 

.....i guess that was supposed to be funny, but why am i not laughing.....let me see, CUZ THERES A BURNING HOLE IN MY WALLET SCREAMING " WHY YOU DUMB@$$, why did you fall for it." and bought a handheld that takes a minute and 30 secs to load a match in smackdown, or has a loading screen after every play in madden, or the genius who decided to put the analog nub under the dpad instead of putting it on the right, OR MAKE A FREAKIN SECOND ONE!!! or why do i have a 6 year old machine that plays guitarhero2 and godofwar2 next to my 360 while it was suppose to be replaced by a "teh N3XT g3n" brick that plays bluray....... i know what ur gonna say, "just wait......and wait for killzone, ITLL BE TEH BEST 3ver!!!!".....i have a news flash Gearsofwar already looks better than that fake cg trailer from e3, and one more thing HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED KILLZONE 1!!!! its clear sony execs havent, or they wouldve scrapped that francise awhile ago. sony better pull something out of their behind quick, this comming from a person who defended the psp over and over against the NDF (nint3ndo defence force) until he finally sold it and got a ds after owning it for a year and wasting around 500 bucks on it, and decided not to defend the ps3 anymore.........I think that shows the direction sony is heading towards.

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#18 axes03
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[QUOTE="axes03"]

.....i guess that was supposed to be funny, but why am i not laughing.....let me see, CUZ THERES A BURNING HOLE IN MY WALLET SCREAMING " WHY YOU DUMB@$$, why did you fall for it." and bought a handheld that takes a minute and 30 secs to load a match in smackdown, or has a loading screen after every play in madden, or the genius who couldnt decided to put the analog nub under the dpad instead of putting it on the right, OR MAKE A FREAKIN SECOND ONE!!! or why do i have a 6 year old machine that plays guitarhero2 and godofwar2 next to my 360 while it was suppose to be replaced by a "teh N3XT g3n" brick that plays bluray.......

emitsu97

PS3 forum, not PSP forum.  Touch your nose to the screen since you can't see further than 2". 

the topic was about sony, so i can talk about the psp, oh wait!!! so are sony denying that they own the psp now, i can see why?and about ur comments, thats all you have when you cant argue with a proper logic, no wonder you think "$ony is teh best". have fun bro

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#19 emitsu97
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thats all you have when you cant argue with a proper logic, no wonder you think "$ony is teh best". have fun bro

axes03

The topic was about the Sony article which was regarding the PS3.

Bring some proper logic in and I'd be glad to go toe to toe. You could always save yourself and spare our ears by selling your "mistake". Nobody here cares to hear your slant.

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lol , cocky little fecker

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#22 axes03
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"The topic was about the Sony article...." i think u just answered by reply, oh and i see u haved moved away from ur mindless 2 bit insults, and turned into, " duh...no one cares about you" good job.......maybe you try the same reasoning to convince some ppl so they will actually buy ur precious machine, so they wont collect dust on mile high stacks, oh wait......thatll lead to more people like me who will complain about their, "mistakes" right? guess you loose either way buddy.......

sad......

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#23 oddsharks
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i don't think that Sony is arrogant and i see nothing wrong with Microsoft buying things up ( its called capitalism) sony is not arrogant their just trying to sell their product that interview is just a Sony exec trying to hype the ps3 to boost sales in europe that's all. its the way things work Sony hypes the ps3 Microsoft hypes the 360 and nintendo hypes the wii. its not arrogance its just buisness

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[QUOTE="xXSecksXx"]Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. dahaka_1

I agree, I can't stand 360 fanboys, their logic and reasoning to certain things is horrible.

I'm not disagreeing with you, problem is, it applies to Sony's fanboys as well.
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#25 emitsu97
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"The topic was about the Sony article...." i think u just answered by reply, oh and i see u haved moved away from ur mindless 2 bit insults, and turned into, " duh...no one cares about you" good job.......maybe you try the same reasoning to convince some ppl so they will actually buy ur precious machine, so they wont collect dust on mile high stacks, oh wait......thatll lead to more people like me who will complain about their, "mistakes" right? guess you loose either way buddy.......

sad......

axes03

:lol: You're not worth any more of a response than I'm giving you. You're not here for discussion, it's obvious.

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#26 axes03
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yeah, if you actually knew how to read, you wouldve known, that i was making fun of bill gates my making a fake quote about him and his "crooked" ways, but since you dont have the mind to comprehend that ill make it easier for you, " M$ is teh sucks!!!!! lolz!11!!!11!" i not in love with MS like you are in with phil harrison, i guess ill have to explain that joke too, but ill get banned if i do that. ......lol.....sigh....just give up kid.......

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yeah, if you actually knew how to read, you wouldve known, that i was making fun of bill gates my making a fake quote about him and his "crooked" ways, but since you dont have the mind to comprehend that ill make it easier for you, " M$ is teh sucks!!!!! lolz!11!!!11!" i not in love with MS like you are in with phil harrison, i guess ill have to explain that joke too, but ill get banned if i do that. ......lol.....sigh....just give up kid.......

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GS really needs a :yawn: emote. 

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#28 axes03
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ohhh look at that, you edited ur post after you figured out the joke, nice job!!!!! give the lad a cookie, it took him 10 mins BUT HE GOT IT.....:oops:

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ohhh look at that, you edited ur post after you figured out the joke, nice job!!!!! give the lad a cookie, it took him 10 mins BUT HE GOT IT.....:oops:

axes03

:lol: Honestly I think you're irritating yourself more than I am. :lol: 

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#30 strangestguy
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has long has it has the games i want i just don't f%%%%ng care  what goes on on the rest of the world.  For now i dont have any ps3 games ( i only play RPGS, strategy or robot games and also some quirky funky games ) but im getting oblivion tonight and i dont mind the lack of games for now since it gave me time to unwrap and play some of 20% ps2 new games  that where collecting dust on my shelves on my ps3 i actually gave my ps2 to my brotyher in law for X-mas and everything is fine.

 

Even had time to replay some of my favorites in my collection like suikoden 1 and 2, brigandine, and final fantasy tactics.

 

Oh and by the way, metal gear acid on the psp is freaking great. 

Also pointing that sport games on handhelds always sucked bigtime. Madden on ds is imho REALLY BAD.

 

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#31 axes03
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really? boohoo (runs away crying and sheeding tears".........wow seriously who are you trying to kid dude, u are getting owned after every ignorant comment you make, and then try to make a lame comeback with halfbaked insults, why? am i even arguing, its like trying to teach a dog to not to chase its tail, this is getting way off topic.....yawn. im out, any knowledgeable person would read my comments and understand where im comming from, have fun bro......and goodluck

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really? boohoo (runs away crying and sheeding tears".........wow seriously who are you trying to kid dude, u are getting owned after every ignorant comment you make, and then try to make a lame comeback with halfbaked insults, why? am i even arguing, its like trying to teach a dog to not to chase its tail, this is getting way off topic.....yawn. im out, any knowledgeable person would read my comments and understand where im comming from, have fun bro......and goodluck

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:lol: Ok. Enjoy. 

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Yes, Sony is arrogant. The PS2's success would make any company arrogant.
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[QUOTE="xXSecksXx"]Nope, Microsoft fanboys are. Have you seen them ? everytime game spot posts something that talks about the ps3, 360 fanboys jump in and flame something that is completely irrelevant to their console. They think their the best cause bill gates is rich, and that 360 has a 1 year head start. Seriously, I can't stand microsoft fanboys their so confident that their gonna win. The news where sony gave out bravia TV's . well some microsoft fanboy said sony gave them TV's cause they were really really desperate for sales. The truth is, it's a sign of good will and a reward to people that have been waiting forever for the console. I can't stand microsoft fanboy's and their anti-sony. If PS3 came out first, Microsoft's 360 would look bad. leebec
Oh for God Sake. Grow up. The thread was meant to be a discussion about how you feel Sony is regarding its customers. Spliffchillum provided quite a balanced respose I thought. I am no-one's fanboy, but surely that does not excuse Sony's MD for some of his comments.

LOL haha, ye man I agree.